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Old 09-10-2004, 04:56 PM  
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Muslim group takes responsibility for 9-11; "We are so sorry."

I caught the link off Drudge, just wondering if you'd seen it and what you all thought. IMO, it's a nice gesture and a potentially big first step.

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Old 09-10-2004, 04:56 PM   #2
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We Are So Sorry for 9-11

This September 11 marks the third unforgettable anniversary of the worst mass murder in American history.

After September 11, many in the Muslim world chose denial and hallucination rather than face up to the sad fact that Muslims perpetrated the 9-11 terrorist acts and that we have an enormous problem with extremism and support for terrorism. Many Muslims, including religious leaders, and “intellectuals” blamed 9-11 on a Jewish conspiracy and went as far as fabricating a tale that 4000 Jews did not show up for work in the World Trade Center on 9-11. Yet others blamed 9-11 on an American right wing conspiracy or the U.S. Government which allegedly wanted an excuse to invade Iraq and “steal” Iraqi oil.
As to apologizing, we will no longer wait for our religious leaders and "intellectuals" to do the right thing. Instead, we will start by apologizing for 9-11 . . .
After numerous admissions of guilt by Bin Laden and numerous corroborating admissions by captured top level Al-Qaida operatives, we wonder, does the Muslim leadership have the dignity and courage to apologize for 9-11?

If not 9-11, will we apologize for the murder of school children in Russia?

If not Russia, will we apologize for the train bombings in Madrid, Spain?

If not Spain, will we apologize for suicide bombings in buses, restaurants and other public places?

If not suicide bombings, will we apologize for the barbaric beheadings of human beings?

If not beheadings, will we apologize for the rape and murder of thousands of innocent people in Darfour?

If not Darfour, will we apologize for the blowing up of two Russian planes by Muslim women?

What will we apologize for?

What will it take for Muslims to realize that those who commit mass murder in the name of Islam are not just a few fringe elements?

What will it take for Muslims to realize that we are facing a crisis that is more deadly than the Aids epidemic?

What will it take for Muslims to realize that there is a large evil movement that is turning what was a peaceful religion into a cult?

Will Muslims wake up before it is too late? Or will we continue blaming the Jews and an imaginary Jewish conspiracy? The blaming of all Muslim problems on Jews is a cancer that is destroying Muslim society from within and it must stop.

Muslims must look inward and put a stop to many of our religious leaders who spend most of their sermons teaching hatred, intolerance and violent jihad. We should not be afraid to admit that as Muslims we have a problem with violent extremism. We should not be afraid to admit that so many of our religious leaders belong behind bars and not behind a pulpit.

Only moderate Muslims can challenge and defeat extremist Muslims. We can no longer afford to be silent. If we remain silent to the extremism within our community then we should not expect anyone to listen to us when we complain of stereotyping and discrimination by non-Muslims; we should not be surprised when the world treats all of us as terrorists; we should not be surprised when we are profiled at airports.

Simply put, not only do Muslims need to join the war against terror, we need to take the lead in this war.

As to apologizing, we will no longer wait for our religious leaders and “intellectuals” to do the right thing. Instead, we will start by apologizing for 9-11.

We are so sorry that 3000 people were murdered in our name. We will never forget the sight of people jumping from two of the highest buildings in the world hoping against hope that if they moved their arms fast enough that they may fly and survive a certain death from burning.

We are sorry for blaming 9-11 on a Jewish or right wing conspiracy.

We are so sorry for the murder of more than three hundred school children and adults in Russia.

We are so sorry for the murder of train passengers in Spain.

We are so sorry for all the victims of suicide bombings. We are so sorry for the beheadings, abductions, rapes, violent Jihad and all the atrocities committed by Muslims around the world.

We are so sorry for a religious education that raised killers rather than train people to do good in the world. We are sorry that we did not take the time to teach our children tolerance and respect for other people.

We are so sorry for not rising up against the dictators who have ruled the Muslim world for decades.

We are so sorry for allowing corruption to spread so fast and so deep in the Muslim world that many of our youth lost hope.

We are so sorry for allowing our religious leaders to relegate women to the status of forth class citizens at best and sub-humans at worse.

We are so sorry.

For more information visit our website at: www.freemuslims.org
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Old 09-10-2004, 05:39 PM   #3
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I cannot get their website to load, but all I can say is it is about damn time.

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Old 09-10-2004, 05:42 PM   #4
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I was just about to post this, you bastard.

Anyway, great read, and as Jamie said, it's about friggin time. If the author was a CP member, I'd give him serious rep.
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Old 09-10-2004, 05:43 PM   #5
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I was just about to post this, you bastard.

Anyway, great read, and as Jamie said, it's about friggin time. If the author was a CP member, I'd give him serious rep.
Hell, yes. It is a first step. Now it is time for Muslim leaders to condemn their actions and remove them from absolution and consideration in their religion as well.
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Old 09-10-2004, 05:47 PM   #6
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I'd suggest ending that '72 Virgins if you blow yourself up' ploy asap. Time for a new fatwa (that's not a Michael Moore joke. Yet.)
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Old 09-10-2004, 05:48 PM   #7
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Hell, yes. It is a first step. Now it is time for Muslim leaders to condemn their actions and remove them from absolution and consideration in their religion as well.


Well, if the Catholics have shown anything, it's that it will be a slow process. There's a lot of face saving that goes on with something like this. It's not going to happen overnight.

(no. I did not bash Catholics. I merely made a parallel observation and noted that it's going to take time. So get over yourself, whoever is going to accuse me of bashing Catholics.)
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Old 09-10-2004, 05:49 PM   #8
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I'd suggest ending that '72 Virgins if you blow yourself up' ploy asap. Time for a new fatwa (that's not a Michael Moore joke. Yet.)


Working purely from this post, how about if they change it to 72 Michael Moores if they blow themselves up? You think that might have the reverse affect we are looking for?
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Old 09-10-2004, 05:51 PM   #9
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Working purely from this post, how about if they change it to 72 Michael Moores if they blow themselves up? You think that might have the reverse affect we are looking for?
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Old 09-10-2004, 05:52 PM   #10
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Well, if the Catholics have shown anything, it's that it will be a slow process. There's a lot of face saving that goes on with something like this. It's not going to happen overnight.

(no. I did not bash Catholics. I merely made a parallel observation and noted that it's going to take time. So get over yourself, whoever is going to accuse me of bashing Catholics.)
The Inquisition was centuries ago. I know of no other religion over the last 100 years that has refused to condemn wholesale slaughter done in their name.


Now if you are speaking of the issue of child abuse, I agree, it has been a long time in the mix; however, there is a huge difference between raping children and killing thousands of people in a single moment.
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Come on. These people weren't responsible for 9/11. Al Qaeda was.

Now, if they are taking some of the blame for the tendency for Islam to accept, perhaps even glorify, terrorism, good.
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Old 09-10-2004, 05:57 PM   #12
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Come on. These people weren't responsible for 9/11. Al Qaeda was.

Now, if they are taking some of the blame for the tendency for Islam to accept, perhaps even glorify, terrorism, good.

That is the way I read it. They are saying 9/11 happened because they have done nothing to reign in their extremists, and therefore are indirectly responsible.
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Come on. These people weren't responsible for 9/11. Al Qaeda was.

Now, if they are taking some of the blame for the tendency for Islam to accept, perhaps even glorify, terrorism, good.
What would be the position of the Pope if 3,000 people were killed by a group of 1,000 trained soldiers who killed abortionists and hunted the doctors methodically killing them in the name of Catholicism?

What would be the position of the Methodist Church if a group of trained soldiers killed innocent Buddhist women and children stating they were killing in the name of the Methodists to stop the propagation of an evil religion?

Do you believe ANY other religion or religious group would sit by idly and not condemn the actions committed in their name?
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That is the way I read it. They are saying 9/11 happened because they have done nothing to reign in their extremists, and therefore are indirectly responsible.
It might help if I read the article before pontificating, eh? That's how it reads to me as well.

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Old 09-10-2004, 06:01 PM   #15
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It might help if I read the article before pontificating, eh? That's how it reads to me as well.

Sorry, it's been a long week...

Dude, please, keep that shit to yourself.
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