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Old 09-13-2004, 05:46 PM  
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Florida OK's Nader's Name on Election Ballot

http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/413583|top|09-13-2004::18:47|reuters.html

MIAMI (Reuters) - Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader's name can appear on Florida ballots for the election, despite a court order to the contrary, Florida's elections chief told officials on Monday in a move that could help President Bush in the key swing state.

The Florida Democratic Party reacted with outrage, calling the move "blatant partisan maneuvering" by Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's younger brother, and vowed to fight it.

In a memo to Florida's 67 county supervisors of elections, Division of Elections director Dawn Roberts said the uncertainty of Hurricane Ivan, which could hit parts of the state by week's end, forced her to act.

The action came in an ongoing legal battle over whether Nader should be allowed on the Florida ballot as the Reform Party candidate.

Nader, an independent nominated by the Reform Party, was a presidential candidate in 2000 when Bush won Florida, and the White House, by 537 votes over then-Vice President Al Gore. Analysts said most of the nearly 98,000 votes Nader got in Florida would have gone to Gore had Nader not been on the ballot.

Florida Circuit Court Judge Kevin Davey issued a temporary injunction last week preventing the state from putting Nader on the 2004 ballot, siding with a Democratic challenge that the Reform Party did not qualify as a national party under state law.

A hearing on a permanent injunction is scheduled for Wednesday. But Roberts said Hurricane Ivan, which is headed for Florida's Gulf coast, had raised "a substantial question as to when such a hearing" will be held.

'PARTISAN MANEUVERING'

As a result, she said, Florida's Department of State had filed an appeal against the temporary injunction. The appeal application automatically lifts the injunction, allowing the counties to put Nader's name on overseas absentee ballots, which must be mailed by Saturday.

"I'm in disbelief," said Scott Maddox, chairman of the Florida Democratic Party. "This is blatant partisan maneuvering on the part of Jeb Bush to give his brother a leg up on election day."

"They are trying to get ballots printed with Nader's name on them," said Maddox. "I am astounded that Jeb Bush is willing to defy the judiciary to help his brother."

Maddox said if Nader drew votes away from any candidate it would be Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.

Gov. Bush said he agreed with Roberts' decision.

"It's up to the judge to determine, based on the law, whether Nader should be on the ballot or not," Bush said. "But while that process goes on, we cannot put ourselves in the position where the ministerial role of the supervisors cannot be fulfilled."

Maddox noted that Tallahassee, the state capital where Davey sits, is not expected to be directly hit by the hurricane. He said the circuit court could hear the case as scheduled on Wednesday and rule immediately.

In addition, the case is before the Florida Supreme Court, which could also rule at any time, he said.
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Old 09-14-2004, 06:44 PM   #31
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Is DenverChief the only one doing this? With no Republican challenger this year, how many Republicans do you think voted in Democratic primaries or caucuses. Are there any penalities if you register for one party but vote for another? Does your vote count any more if you vote for the same party you register as? That has always been the case when an incumbent is running unapposed. Doesn't make it right.
If Ralph Nader is going to get on the ballot it should be because people in his own party give a crap that he gets on there. The entire groundswell to get him on the ballot has been from the Republican side, not because they want to vote for him, but because they are hoping enough people will see him there and toss their vote away. The Republicans get a bonus candidate on their side. They correctly figure any vote for Nader is a vote for them.
You are a hypocrite. Just re-read your argument.

Synopsis - Democrats aren't the only ones who are registering immorally, so big deal.
Republicans are immorally registering a candidate.


If Nader is only being supported by Republicans as you hypothesize, you should be happy as they will be the only ones voting for him.
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:11 PM   #32
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You are a hypocrite. Just re-read your argument.

Synopsis - Democrats aren't the only ones who are registering immorally, so big deal.
Republicans are immorally registering a candidate.


If Nader is only being supported by Republicans as you hypothesize, you should be happy as they will be the only ones voting for him.
You throw that word around so much its become meaningless. You want to know the true meaning of the word then look in the mirror. You condemn DenverChief for his action, I merely point out he's not alone. I also said that what he and others who vote in the opposite party's elections are wrong. Did you just fly by that?
I also stated that Republicans are not getting Nader on the ballot to vote for him. They are hoping that others will see him on the ballot an throw their vote away.
Are you actually denying that Republicans are working for him?
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Hello, I'm trying to get Ralph Nader on the Ballot here in Iowa. I was wondering if any of you would consider helping out by getting your friend, family or others to sign. I can email you the PDF. You have to be of voting age on election day, and from Iowa.
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First off I am a Bush Supporter.
First off I am a Bush Supporter.
If Ralph Nader is on the ballot in Iowa, I think he will pull 3000 or so votes away from Kerry. A vote for Nader is like a vote for Bush, it hurts the Democrats.
Bush lost Iowa by 4,200 votes in 2000. trust me, getting Nader on the ballot will help Bush in November.
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:19 PM   #33
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Old 09-15-2004, 09:40 AM   #34
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You throw that word around so much its become meaningless. You want to know the true meaning of the word then look in the mirror. You condemn DenverChief for his action, I merely point out he's not alone. I also said that what he and others who vote in the opposite party's elections are wrong. Did you just fly by that?
I also stated that Republicans are not getting Nader on the ballot to vote for him. They are hoping that others will see him on the ballot an throw their vote away.
Are you actually denying that Republicans are working for him?


http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ighlight=Nader
Who said I denied anything? I signed a petition myself. I see nothing illegal OR immoral about it.


Again! If it is ONLY Republicans registering Nader, then you have nothing to worry about as ONLY Republicans would vote for him. Your complaints are without base.
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Old 09-15-2004, 09:43 AM   #35
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