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News: Insurgents Target Iraqi Police; 59 Dead

By SAMEER N. YACOUB


BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A car bomb Tuesday ripped through a busy market near a Baghdad police headquarters where Iraqis were waiting to apply for jobs on the force, and gunmen opened fire on a van carrying police home from work in Baqouba, killing at least 59 people total and wounding at least 114.

The attacks were the latest attempts by militants to wreck the building of a strong Iraqi security force, a keystone of the U.S. strategy for ending the unflagging insurgency ahead of nationwide elections slated for January and for allowing an eventual withdrawal of American forces.

Despite U.S. claims that Iraqi forces are showing more resolve to fight, insurgents have only grown stronger and have shown they can strike at will, particularly in Baghdad. Tuesday's attacks came only two days after a surprise insurgent offensive in the capital that saw mortars pounding downtown Baghdad and left 60 dead.

The Tawhid and Jihad group, headed by Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, posted a Web statement claiming responsibility for the car bomb in the capital. The al-Qaida-linked group said earlier it carried out Sunday's campaign of attacks and boasted that it had the upper hand in the fight against the Americans and their Iraqi allies.

Tuesday's car bomb exploded by a bustling row of shops and cafes and left a gaping 10-foot crater in Haifa Street - the same central avenue where much of Sunday's violence took place.

The blast devastated buildings and gutted cars near the western Baghdad police headquarters. Though the attack apparently targeted police, many of the 47 dead were people who had been shopping or having a morning meal. At least 114 were wounded, Health Ministry spokesman Saad Al-Amili said.

Paramedics and residents picked up body parts scattered across the street and put them into boxes. Anguished men lifted bodies burned beyond recognition and lay them gently on stretchers. Helicopters circled.

Afterward, angry crowds of young men pumped their fists in the air and denounced President Bush and interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, saying they had failed to protect Iraqis. "Bush is a dog," they chanted.

In Baqouba, gunmen in two cars opened fire Tuesday on a van carrying policemen, killing 11 officers and a civilian, said Qaisar Hamid of Baqouba General Hospital.

It was at least the second recent attack on security forces in Baqouba: On July 28, a car bomb exploded outside a police recruiting center in the eastern, Sunni-dominated city, killing at least 68 people.

Also Tuesday, the military said three American soldiers were killed and eight others wounded in separate attacks in Iraq in the past 24 hours.

Meanwhile, saboteurs blew up a junction where multiple oil pipelines cross the Tigris River in northern Iraq on Tuesday, setting off a chain reaction in power generation systems that left the entire country without power, officials said.

Firefighters struggled to put out the blaze after the pre-dawn attack near Beiji, 155 miles north of Baghdad. Crude oil cascaded down the hillside into the river. Fire burned atop the water, fueled by the gushing oil.

The morning car bomb in Baghdad ripped through would-be recruits waiting in line at the police headquarters and market-goers. The bomb was inside a Toyota vehicle parked near the market and a short distance down the road from the police headquarters, which was closed to traffic, said Interior Ministry spokesman Col. Adnan Abdel-Rahman.

"Seconds earlier, people were drinking tea or eating sandwiches and then I could see their remains hanging from trees," said Mahdi Mohammed, 30, who was standing outside his barber shop when the explosion went off. "I could see burning people running in all directions."

Ali Abul-Amir had been waiting in line to join the police force but had gone around the corner to buy a drink when the explosion went off.

"Such places were targeted before," he said. "I blame Ayad Allawi's government for what happened because they did not take the necessary security measures."

Others, however, directed their anger at the militants.

"Such acts cannot be considered part of the resistance (against American forces). This is not a jihad, they are not mujahideen," said Amir Abdel Hassan, a 41-year-old teacher. "Iraq is not a country, it's a big graveyard," he said.

The violence has escalated despite the installation of Allawi's government in June and now raises worries over the January elections.

The U.S. military has been training Iraqi police and the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps members for more than 18 months. But the Iraqis have still been unable to take over the main duties in fighting the insurgency.

Attacks on Iraqi security forces and police officers - seen as collaborators by militants - have left hundreds of people dead since insurgents began a 17-month campaign to expel U.S.-led forces.

From April 2003 to May 2004, 710 Iraqi police were killed out of a total force of 130,000 officers, authorities said. Since May, at least another 180 people have been killed in attacks targeting police facilities. Insurgents have also kept up a steady drumbeat of smaller scale attacks on police checkpoints and assassinations of police officials.

The forces' weakness were highlighted in April, when police largely abandoned their stations in the face of an uprising by Shiite militiamen in Baghdad and southern cities. When the militia rose up again last month, U.S. forces carried out the vast majority of the fighting.

After the April disaster, the Army general formerly in charge of training, Maj. Gen. Paul D. Eaton, acknowledged that misguided U.S. methods had wasted almost a year's worth of training.

U.S. commanders now say they're beefing up their training efforts, trying to improve the Iraqi officer corps and supply the security forces with the sort of heavy machine guns and rocket-propelled grenade launchers that they have lacked but that insurgents have had in plentiful supply.

Bush administration officials have also been insisting they have a plan for stopping the insurgency.

Bathsheba Crocker, an analyst with the U.S.Center for Strategic and International Studies, questioned whether U.S and Iraqi leaders have a workable strategy.

"The security situation is chaotic and it seems to be deteriorating," she said, adding that the insurgents' attacks in the capital were "probably very deliberate. No security in Baghdad means there is no security in the country."

"It signifies that the insurgency is growing in sophistication and organization. It is more capable of carrying out all these major and synchronized attacks," she said.

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Old 09-14-2004, 11:58 AM   #2
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I put it in the WDC section... cuz I didn't want to get in trouble...

but... even if Kerry were president right now... and was Pres. when the resolution was passed...

... I just hate this gawddamned war...

... Sorry, just had to vent... back to local programming...
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Old 09-14-2004, 12:03 PM   #3
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Old 09-14-2004, 12:07 PM   #4
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Until the civilians pick up arms against the terrorists and the insurgents and fight for their country and their freedom they are doomed to a life of shelling.

Thank God our founding fathers had the balls to stand up to the Brits and their queen.

I suppose I shouldn't expect everyone in the world to have the intestinal fortitude to fight for themselves. That is what has made us the country we are today.
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Old 09-14-2004, 03:17 PM   #5
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Until the civilians pick up arms against the terrorists and the insurgents and fight for their country and their freedom they are doomed to a life of shelling.

Thank God our founding fathers had the balls to stand up to the Brits and their queen.

I suppose I shouldn't expect everyone in the world to have the intestinal fortitude to fight for themselves. That is what has made us the country we are today.
Retard,

How about reading a few articles about the folks that were killed today in Iraq, before getting diarrhea at the keyboard.

The vanload of Iraqi policemen that got their innards ventilated today were part of the US approved 'fighting back", as were the line of police recruits that were victims to the car bomb in Baghdad.

Your post was the stupidest thing ever posted on Chiefs planet.

Especially considering that the insurgents are exactly standing up to their attempted colonizers.

You blame the victims for doing exactly what our government has asked of them for "fighting back", joining Iraqi security forces or the police. and then you say that they should do what our founding father's did and stand up to the colonial power.

Folks resisting the colonial power are the ones who killed the ones following the US orders.

Everybody knows that Bush's followers are stupid, but c'mon. Damn.
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Old 09-14-2004, 03:21 PM   #6
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I'll never understand the concept of killing groups of people from your country, who are trying to help your country by providing security......

...unless you are an asshole of Biblical(maybe Koranical in the case) proportions.


at least Dense will be able to add to the total "civilians killed by the US" website.
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Old 09-14-2004, 03:22 PM   #7
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Who says the bombers were Iraqi?
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Old 09-14-2004, 03:24 PM   #8
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True.

Maybe the US should change methods..........park disabled Military equipment in strategic locations, wait for the crowds and riots, and clusterbomb the entire block........maybe use up those Napalm stores in the Sadr city, Tikrit, Falluja areas.......
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Old 09-14-2004, 03:36 PM   #9
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Retard,

How about reading a few articles about the folks that were killed today in Iraq, before getting diarrhea at the keyboard.

The vanload of Iraqi policemen that got their innards ventilated today were part of the US approved 'fighting back", as were the line of police recruits that were victims to the car bomb in Baghdad.

Your post was the stupidest thing ever posted on Chiefs planet.

Especially considering that the insurgents are exactly standing up to their attempted colonizers.

You blame the victims for doing exactly what our government has asked of them for "fighting back", joining Iraqi security forces or the police. and then you say that they should do what our founding father's did and stand up to the colonial power.

Folks resisting the colonial power are the ones who killed the ones following the US orders.

Everybody knows that Bush's followers are stupid, but c'mon. Damn.
You are a *****ing moron.

Your "queen" was spouting shit on here this morning about how all those that were taking up arms in Iraq were actually joining the insurgents!

Which is it?

Better call the DNC to get your dog damn story straight.
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Old 09-14-2004, 03:42 PM   #10
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Retard,

How about reading a few articles about the folks that were killed today in Iraq, before getting diarrhea at the keyboard.

The vanload of Iraqi policemen that got their innards ventilated today were part of the US approved 'fighting back", as were the line of police recruits that were victims to the car bomb in Baghdad.

Your post was the stupidest thing ever posted on Chiefs planet.

Especially considering that the insurgents are exactly standing up to their attempted colonizers.

You blame the victims for doing exactly what our government has asked of them for "fighting back", joining Iraqi security forces or the police. and then you say that they should do what our founding father's did and stand up to the colonial power.

Folks resisting the colonial power are the ones who killed the ones following the US orders.

Everybody knows that Bush's followers are stupid, but c'mon. Damn.
Hey retard, before you go f^ck yourself, I wasn't refering to the police who were targeted. I was refering to the rest of the civilians.

OK, now go f^ck yourself.
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Old 09-14-2004, 03:43 PM   #11
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True.

Maybe the US should change methods..........park disabled Military equipment in strategic locations, wait for the crowds and riots, and clusterbomb the entire block........maybe use up those Napalm stores in the Sadr city, Tikrit, Falluja areas.......
I would have absolutely no problem with that.
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Old 09-14-2004, 03:44 PM   #12
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Retard,

How about reading a few articles about the folks that were killed today in Iraq, before getting diarrhea at the keyboard.

The vanload of Iraqi policemen that got their innards ventilated today were part of the US approved 'fighting back", as were the line of police recruits that were victims to the car bomb in Baghdad.

Your post was the stupidest thing ever posted on Chiefs planet.

Especially considering that the insurgents are exactly standing up to their attempted colonizers.

You blame the victims for doing exactly what our government has asked of them for "fighting back", joining Iraqi security forces or the police. and then you say that they should do what our founding father's did and stand up to the colonial power.

Folks resisting the colonial power are the ones who killed the ones following the US orders.

Everybody knows that Bush's followers are stupid, but c'mon. Damn.
I have never seen someone miss the point this badly ever!!!

He isn't talking about the police or the people that were lining up as police recruits. He was talking about the general population of the country.

You would probably stand by when a bank was robbed and not call the police nor try to intervene because you don't want to be involved.

The general population of Iraq, if they truly want to be free, need to start standing their ground and take back what Saddam has taken from them. At this point in time they have that opportunity, if they don't do it now they may never get the opportunity again.

It sounds like what you want is to go back to English rule.

Again, you need to put the proper perspective on the events of the day and consider what the outcome of the war should be. It's one of those: You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. The general population of Iraq needs to take that drink of freedom while the opportunity is there.
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Old 09-14-2004, 03:46 PM   #13
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Especially considering that the insurgents are exactly standing up to their attempted colonizers.

So which side are you on, jettio? I'm serious. Which fuggin side of this are you on? Are you on the side that has concern for our troops or are you on the side trying to kill them.

Which is it? And be careful how you answer.
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Old 09-14-2004, 04:04 PM   #14
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So which side are you on, jettio? I'm serious. Which fuggin side of this are you on? Are you on the side that has concern for our troops or are you on the side trying to kill them.

Which is it? And be careful how you answer.
Duck Dog, You have to ask?

The only thing jettio is p!ssed about is that the dead aren't all Americans soldiers.
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Old 09-14-2004, 05:09 PM   #15
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Everybody knows that Bush's followers are stupid, but c'mon. Damn.
Ummm, **** off, shyster jackass.

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