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Old 09-20-2004, 01:06 PM  
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Double-teamed or not, this is absolutely pathetic...

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Defense T A Tot.
Beisel 10 2 12
Fujita 6 4 10
Barber 7 1 8
Browning 4 3 7
Woods 4 2 6
Warfield 5 0 5
Dalton 3 0 3
McCleon 2 0 2
Pile 2 0 2
Bartee 2 0 2
Siavii 2 0 2
Hicks 2 0 2
Allen 1 0 1
Wilkerson 1 0 1
Totals 51 12 63


Anybody see Sims on this list?
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:09 PM   #2
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Defense T A Tot.
Beisel 10 2 12
Fujita 6 4 10
Barber 7 1 8
Browning 4 3 7
Woods 4 2 6
Warfield 5 0 5
Dalton 3 0 3
McCleon 2 0 2
Pile 2 0 2
Bartee 2 0 2
Siavii 2 0 2
Hicks 2 0 2
Allen 1 0 1
Wilkerson 1 0 1
Totals 51 12 63


Anybody see Sims on this list?
Look, maybe you didn't hear. Sims was double teamed, dude. He's the only LDT in the history of the game to be DT'd. He took one for the team, and sacrificed his stats. He's worth his weight in gold, seriously.........
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:13 PM   #3
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:13 PM   #4
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:14 PM   #5
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I made a point to watch his sorry ass quite often yesterday.

He sucked big dong all game long.
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:21 PM   #6
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I'm not going to say Sims is bad or good, but you really can't read too much into tackling totals to determine whether or not someone played well. If a DT shut down his lane, collapsed the pocket, and kept O-linemen off of the LBs then he did his job. Maybe not at the level you want of a 6th overall pick, but that's generally what you want out of a DT. Now I can't really say that I remember much good from Sims yesterday, but I remember being much more dissapointed in McCleon and Barber.
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:22 PM   #7
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Damn...

Even tho I hate it, I have to give props to Big Sexy on this one.

Perhaps his vision is less biased than DV.

I really wish Minnesota had their crap together during that draft.....
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:23 PM   #8
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I'm not going to say Sims is bad or good, but you really can't read too much into tackling totals to determine whether or not someone played well. If a DT shut down his lane, collapsed the pocket, and kept O-linemen off of the LBs then he did his job. Maybe not at the level you want of a 6th overall pick, but that's generally what you want out of a DT. Now I can't really say that I remember much good from Sims yesterday, but I remember being much more dissapointed in McCleon and Barber.
When you give up 180 yards rushing in two games, then your defensive tackles aren't worth shit. They aren't doing their jobs if you're getting run all over.
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:26 PM   #9
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Meanwhile, freakin' John Henderson is starring for the team who last year was 2nd in the league against the run and just held Q. Griffin to 2.6 yards per carry. And they have no DE's either.
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:30 PM   #10
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When you give up 180 yards rushing in two games, then your defensive tackles aren't worth shit. They aren't doing their jobs if you're getting run all over.
Now that's a valid statistic to use for that argument. The tackling stats are not.

FWIW - I thought the defense played pretty stellar in the first half. It was that 9 minutes of hell drive in the 3rd quarter that blew it all to hell. After that they were dog tired and seemed to have lost their confidence. I'll add that they did a decent job of stopping the run in that drive, but on repeated 3rd and longs DelHomme picked us apart. I'm much more concered about our CBs and LBs than our DTs. Barber and Dex on the same side of the field was like having a double bonus for Carolina.
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:32 PM   #11
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When you give up 180 yards rushing in two games, then your defensive tackles aren't worth shit. They aren't doing their jobs if you're getting run all over.

Not If They're doing it to the outside. Thats where the majority of rushing yards agaist us are coming from.
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:34 PM   #12
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Defense T A Tot.
Beisel 10 2 12

in his 2nd game as a MLB ...


not bad, i hope he continues to improve
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:36 PM   #13
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Barber and Dex on the same side of the field was like having a double bonus for Carolina.


I agree completely! And those of you who don't, watch the game again like I did.
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:40 PM   #14
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Defense T A Tot.
Beisel 10 2 12
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Damn near equals Kwikas Stats from all of 2003.
I am not giving up on him.
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Old 09-20-2004, 02:13 PM   #15
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I don't understand why everyone is picking on Barber. I heard the guy on 610 this morning saying Barber has never done anything for the Chiefs. IIRC, he played pretty well in the playoff loss. He was the only bright spot on defense that day. And he got 8 tackles yesterday. Maybe I need to watch him more cause I haven't noticed him being that bad.

And Monte Beisel has played better than we could have expected, IMO.
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