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Old 09-21-2004, 11:15 AM  
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National Media starts the bashing. It's Trent's fault now.

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Green hit eight of his first nine, then was 9 of 25 the rest of the way. For the second straight week he completed only half of his passes. For the second straight week he didn't have 200 yards in completions. For the second straight week he had no touchdowns.
You can look it up: In two weeks he's 23 of 66 for 361 yards, no TDs and two interceptions, and you want to know what's wrong with the defense?

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http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7698339
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:18 AM   #2
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33 of 66 actually, but still pretty bad.

7 drops in two games haven't helped, but Trent has not played well. You can throw in that 23-yard sack as a bonehead play too.
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:19 AM   #3
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It was only a matter of time before the real Green started showing his true face.

Unfortunately, your offensive line is no longer looking like the best in football. It appears that Roaf is slow off the blocks, and Welbourn is a virnstile with elbows...
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:20 AM   #4
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The pick by Champ ended up acting like a punt, since the Donks got flagged 15 yards after the play. And the second INT was late in the Panthers game. He was trying to force the ball.

Our offense will be fine, IMO. The numbers produced early by Trent are just the side effect of having to play from behind way too much early on. Why? Because our defense has trouble holding the opposing offense scoreless for one friggin' possession.

If our defense was even half decent, Trent's numbers would be considerably better.
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:21 AM   #5
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Here's ESPN saying we are getting our last rites?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1885617
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:24 AM   #6
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oh christ... let the green crying start again



the WHOLE team didn't play well against carolina.





dam man ... let it go
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:25 AM   #7
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It was only a matter of time before the real Green started showing his true face.

Unfortunately, your offensive line is no longer looking like the best in football. It appears that Roaf is slow off the blocks, and Welbourn is a virnstile with elbows...
Now you're just being mean. Green has started each of the last two seasons off slowly in the first month. He has a breakout game and then hits his stride for the rest of the season.

I don't think Roaf has lost anything, either. He had a fine game against Denver and got beat on a few plays against the Panthers. He WAS going up against Mike Rucker for crying out loud.

At least we know Trent Green is never going to throw any left-handed interceptions.
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:33 AM   #8
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Other than that sack in Denver, I don't think Trent's played badly. He could play better for sure, but he is what he is. With a good running game, O-Line and practice with his receivers, he'll play as well as anyone.

Unfourtunately, if Saunders doesn't call for Priest to get the ball, Welborn or Roaf struggle a bit in pass protection and no receiver other than Hall and an undrafted rookie is healthy for a whole month he will play poorly. I do think that is a surprise to anyone here.
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:37 AM   #9
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The magical disappearing Offense...


There are many factors contributing to our lack of Offense so far:
• [2] good Defenses [Denver & Carolina]. Houston does not have a Denver/Carolina-caliber Defense. A ray of hope for our struggling Offense.

• Decimated WR corps. We must find a way to get Hall and young Mr. Smith involved. Young and raw he may be, but Smith still has the speed we lose with Kennison out of the game.

• Disappointing efforts from Welbourn [game #1] & Roaf [game #2] [See item #1]. Welbourn was better in game #2. hopefully Roaf will be better in game #3.

• Questionable play-calling. Saunders was prone to being overly-tricky on occasion last season. After the first drive against Carolina, the play-calling disappointed me.

Except for the bonehead 23-yard sack he took against Denver, I cannot fault Green’s play all that much.

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Old 09-21-2004, 11:39 AM   #10
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:42 AM   #11
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Hey Taco, you saw the Real Green last year with a healthy group of receivers, a solid line, and he was looking very comfortable back there, This year he has no one to throw too, so he forces almost all his throws. Take Priest and Tony G and you have got our receivers shut down. NO one else can get seperation, or wants to catch the ball in the rough spots(Morton with alligator arms down the middle again.)
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:45 AM   #12
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It was only a matter of time before the real Green started showing his true face.

Unfortunately, your offensive line is no longer looking like the best in football. It appears that Roaf is slow off the blocks, and Welbourn is a virnstile with elbows...
Yeah Jake plummer is such a stud as well, it would help if the WR's don't drop half the shit and get open. I think green will turn it around.
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:45 AM   #13
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The pick by Champ ended up acting like a punt, since the Donks got flagged 15 yards after the play. And the second INT was late in the Panthers game. He was trying to force the ball.

Our offense will be fine, IMO. The numbers produced early by Trent are just the side effect of having to play from behind way too much early on. Why? Because our defense has trouble holding the opposing offense scoreless for one friggin' possession.

If our defense was even half decent, Trent's numbers would be considerably better.

The flipside of that coins says that if our offense was up to par our defense would be much better not having to be on the field over half of the game.

2 way street for this team so far .
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:48 AM   #14
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It's funny how things change. Back in the Marty days we'd have all been thrilled if our passing game produced 361 yards in the first two games of the season.
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It was only a matter of time before the real Green started showing his true face.

Unfortunately, your offensive line is no longer looking like the best in football. It appears that Roaf is slow off the blocks, and Welbourn is a virnstile with elbows...
Oh please. Am I hearing a donkey fan talk about a QB showing their true self? Will the real Jake Plummer please stand up?
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