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BlackOp 12-21-2015 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11969840)
He's going on 29 bro. Like if it's a 2-3 year deal, maybe. But bottom line is he isn't going to get better than he is now. They've drafted plenty of corners over the last couple of years... The only safety on our 2016 roster right now is Parker. That ain't enough.

You keep Berry and let Smith roll..it will cost you a draft pick...KC will be using one on his replacement early. A position of strength becomes a liability...in a defense predicated on the corners holding court while the pressure gets there. Chiefs already have capable replacements for Berry in house that will come a LOT cheaper. Berry is a great player..dont get me wrong but not nearly as important in this scheme.

Smith is 29 but Berry just had cancer...that's a lot of guaranteed money if they go that route. What if he has a relapse?

Hoover 12-21-2015 11:17 PM

I'll add my thoughts.

1. KC isn't going to sign any meaningful free agents this year. Maybe a bargin saftey like in years past if we have to replace someone.

2. Sean Smith is the top priority, followed by Berry, DJ, and Howard.

3. If guys like DeVito and Hali want to play on bargain deals because they love it here I'm all for it. If they are looking to cash in it's just not going to work.

4. I love and admire Jamall Charles. But if I'm the GM of this team I have the balls to cut him. It has absolutley nothing about him as a player, it has everything to do with the depth of this team. The story I'd spin is yeah, we are fu@king good enough to cut Jamaal Charles, who will sign with the Packers and lead them to a Super Bowl and I will buy his GB Jersey too. When you boil it all down, you can cut Charles and keep Sean Smith and that defense intact. That's the move you make to make a prolonged run a multiple championships.

5.If we loose players like Branch, Abdullah, or Howard we will get third round compensatory picks. A nice consolation prize.

6. If all goes as planned, we are not drafting one single defensive player in the upcoming draft. Maybe a stud MLB if there is one for us sitting there in round one, but that it. You all better get ready for some big fatty RTs, TE, RB, and WRs. bucause that's all we will be shopping for.

BlackOp 12-21-2015 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Squalor2 (Post 11969849)
welp. pretty much you posters are bitter ****s, bitches and losers. none of you 3 make chiefsplanet better. you know this and if you live to 100. you are usless

And...you make it better how? If you call someone "useless"..you are implying you have something insightful to offer. Random insults on the internet are something any neglected 14 year old can do...

ChiefAshhole1056 12-21-2015 11:24 PM

The Chiefs continued to pay Berry his full salary as planned when he was undergoing chemo, they aren't going to back away from the guy now because he's too pricey.

He is clearly the heart and soul of this team right now, something that you pay premier dollar for. And that's what we're going to give this man, I hope y'all know that right? Like market-setting contract numbers for a safety because not one other safety in the league offfers what Berry does. An iconic, soon to be Walter Payton Man of the Year award winning, dominating team leader that also does his job better than any other safety in the league currently.

This team will always follow him and fight for this man because of what he went through, and how hard he fought to get back to this point. You don't let that go, and you pay him the worth he brings to your team. Which like it or not will most likely shatter the current highest contract (Byrd, 54 mil/6 yr) and be closer to the $60 mil range.

RunKC 12-21-2015 11:25 PM

First thing Dorsey needs to do before signing anyone is go to Dustin Colquitt and tell him to restructure his astronomical salary heading into next season or he'll be cut. $4m+ for a punter is insane.
Jamaal Charles is also going to be a hot topic to restructure.

RFA's to keep:
West, Zombo, D. Harris, N. Williams and Sorenson for 600k/piece.

Top priority:

Howard
Berry
DJ

Those are the key players. This team runs on defense, and each of the 3 is an elite player at every level.

Next you look to keep one of Branch or Abdullah. We should be able to keep one for a decent low price. I prefer Branch. That puts us 4 deep at Safety, which is great depth.

Allen will likely leave IMO and get overpaid ala Geoff Schwartz. Offer him a smaller contract heavy in incentives. Nbd if he leaves.
This OL has grown substantially this season and having 4/5 starters returning playing their experienced position will make the OL start well next year instead of rebooting and waiting to gel.

Sean Smith is basically gone. Looking at the crazy contract Flowers got, Smith will get more, especially in a league that wants to have tall, long CB's like the Seattle model. Oh well.

Tamba is probably done, but if he comes back, it will be like this year.

I'd prefer to sign at least one veteran CB that is reliable with Peters being the only known going into next season.

After that you can find your starting LG, future #2 CB and depth at RT/WR/DL/TE, etc in the draft.

Squalor2 12-21-2015 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11969845)
Was that your reaction after yet another non-winning season?


you suck cock,

you are the assdhad that asked chiefsplanet about winning?

ChiefAshhole1056 12-21-2015 11:28 PM

Why are people insistent on signing Sean Smith instead of franchising him? Get one more year out of the guy on a salary you'd probably have to pay him in a long term contract anyway, and also still allows you to address the CB position like you would if he left.

I dont want to commit to a soon-to-be 30 CB who's only going to get slower and I also dont want to rely on Phillip Gaines as my CB2 coming off an ACL injury. Franchise him for a year, draft another CB in the early rounds, and be in even better shape in 2017.

Hoover 12-21-2015 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11969864)
I'd prefer to sign at least one veteran CB that is reliable

The price tag for that is like 6mil a year, so just bite the bullet and keep the STUD you have. There is no incentive for this team to shop for player on the open market. None! The only position you do that for is saftey if we lose both Abdulah and Branch,

BlackOp 12-21-2015 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 11969858)
I'll add my thoughts.

1. KC isn't going to sign any meaningful free agents this year. Maybe a bargin saftey like in years past if we have to replace someone.

2. Sean Smith is the top priority, followed by Berry, DJ, and Howard.

I would say Smith, DJ, Howard then Berry. Dorsey rolled the dice on DJ coming back healthy...and won. They need to start grooming his replacement this draft. I'm down with a 1st round LB if one is available.

Direckshun 12-21-2015 11:33 PM

I look really hard at drafting a CB in the 1st.

BigChiefFan 12-21-2015 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11969864)
First thing Dorsey needs to do before signing anyone is go to Dustin Colquitt and tell him to restructure his astronomical salary heading into next season or he'll be cut. $4m+ for a punter is insane.
Jamaal Charles is also going to be a hot topic to restructure.

RFA's to keep:
West, Zombo, D. Harris, N. Williams and Sorenson for 600k/piece.

Top priority:

Howard
Berry
DJ

Those are the key players. This team runs on defense, and each of the 3 is an elite player at every level.

Next you look to keep one of Branch or Abdullah. We should be able to keep one for a decent low price. I prefer Branch. That puts us 4 deep at Safety, which is great depth.

Allen will likely leave IMO and get overpaid ala Geoff Schwartz. Offer him a smaller contract heavy in incentives. Nbd if he leaves.
This OL has grown substantially this season and having 4/5 starters returning playing their experienced position will make the OL start well next year instead of rebooting and waiting to gel.

Sean Smith is basically gone. Looking at the crazy contract Flowers got, Smith will get more, especially in a league that wants to have tall, long CB's like the Seattle model. Oh well.

Tamba is probably done, but if he comes back, it will be like this year.

I'd prefer to sign at least one veteran CB that is reliable with Peters being the only known going into next season.

After that you can find your starting LG, future #2 CB and depth at RT/WR/DL/TE, etc in the draft.

I say we retain Berry, DJ, and Hali on a fairly team friendly deals. Keep Howard and franchise Smith. It's a given most RFAs are retained. I predict we use the franchise tag on Smith.

Hoover 12-21-2015 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056 (Post 11969866)
Why are people insistent on signing Sean Smith instead of franchising him? Get one more year out of the guy on a salary you'd probably have to pay him in a long term contract anyway, and also still allows you to address the CB position like you would if he left.

I dont want to commit to a soon-to-be 30 CB who's only going to get slower and I also dont want to rely on Phillip Gaines as my CB2 coming off an ACL injury. Franchise him for a year, draft another CB in the early rounds, and be in even better shape in 2017.

Shit yeah. I'm all for tagging him. No problem what so ever.

Hoover 12-21-2015 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11969875)
I look really hard at drafting a CB in the 1st.

Get over it. Never going to happen.

Fat Andy will demand toys and fatties for the offense.

Squalor2 12-21-2015 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11969861)
And...you make it better how? If you call someone "useless"..you are implying you have something insightful to offer. Random insults on the internet are something any neglected 14 year old can do...


you are correct. pugsnotdrugs19, random 14 year olds. insightful,

BlackOp 12-21-2015 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056 (Post 11969863)

He is clearly the heart and soul of this team right now, something that you pay premier dollar for. And that's what we're going to give this man, I hope y'all know that right? Like market-setting contract numbers for a safety because not one other safety in the league offfers what Berry does. An iconic, soon to be Walter Payton Man of the Year award winning, dominating team leader that also does his job better than any other safety in the league currently.

This team will always follow him and fight for this man because of what he went through, and how hard he fought to get back to this point. You don't let that go, and you pay him the worth he brings to your team. Which like it or not will most likely shatter the current highest contract (Byrd, 54 mil/6 yr) and be closer to the $60 mil range.

That is more emotional than fact. KC played better with him out last season...if you lose an "impact" player your team should see a tangible decline in production. Like losing Maclin, DJ or Houston.


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