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Mr. Laz 03-24-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10513365)
You have to make the playoffs before you can win in the playoffs.

And they aren't completely different things

You are either trying to split hairs to be difficult or you just aren't very bright.


have no idea which

ToxSocks 03-24-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10513365)
You have to make the playoffs before you can win in the playoffs.

And they aren't completely different things

This.

So we're back to the ol', "Clark Only cares bout being mediocre" argument eh?

So dumb. It doesn't even pass the common sense test.

O.city 03-24-2014 12:33 PM

Unless you completely luck into making the playoffs by some crazy easy scheduling, if you make the playoffs, you should be able to win once you get there.

However, just like in any single elimination setting, it's all about matchups.

ToxSocks 03-24-2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10513369)
you just aren't very bright.


have no idea which

We'll...you're the one who seems to think that balancing on the edge of Bad/good is the best way to make money.....

Mr. Laz 03-24-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 10513377)
We'll...you're the one who seems to think that balancing on the edge of Bad/good is the best way to make money.....

No, balancing on the edge good/great is the safest way to make money.

mcaj22 03-24-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10513362)
Was Rishaw part of the waiver seven?

he was a couple days after I think. But still plucked from the Seattle Talent Machine that keeps on churning

The Franchise 03-24-2014 12:54 PM

He didn't drop due to lack of talent....it was because of character issues.

ToxSocks 03-24-2014 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10513399)
No, balancing on the edge good/great is the safest way to make money.

You said "Good enough to get in the playoffs, not good enough to win in the playoffs".

That's not balancing between good/great. That's balancing between good/bad.

The best way to make $$$ is to build a dynasty. A consistent winner that competes for championships. Doing that creates fans on a national level, which creates more fans as fathers pass their allegiances on to their children. All of those fans rake in Merchandise, increase T.V ratings and overall, makes it easier to negotiate stadium deals....all of it increases the value of the Franchise.

To sit here and say that Clark only cares about putting butts in the seats is downright dumb. It's a myopic view. If Clark's only concern is making money, then he'd make a shit ton more on a National level....not just filling up Arrowhead in one of the least attractive major U.S cities.....talk about short sighted....

The argument makes zero since when you apply any sort of common sense.

ToxSocks 03-24-2014 01:02 PM

http://www.forbes.com/nfl-valuations...on:asc_search:

This Forbes article squashes any reeruned idea that being mediocre = profit.

The most successful teams with the newest stadiums and largest fan bases make the most money, while the teams with very little playoff success and old stadiums make the least.....Hrmmmm......

Rausch 03-24-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10513323)

Peterson made a career of this safe build. You build to make the playoffs not the super bowl. Consistency over potential, a super bowl push is too risky.

If you don't think Carl was trying to win a SB in 93 you're on crack...

htismaqe 03-24-2014 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10513365)
You have to make the playoffs before you can win in the playoffs.

And they aren't completely different things

If you've geared your team towards making the playoffs, you haven't necessarily geared your team to WIN in the playoffs.

It's like the 90's never happened.

O.city 03-24-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10513565)
If you've geared your team towards making the playoffs, you haven't necessarily geared your team to WIN in the playoffs.

It's like the 90's never happened.

Obviously there are situations where you meet a better team, run into a hog qb playing at a high level, etc you can lose in the playoffs, doesn mean you weren't built wrong.

There's just to many factors involved. The 90s chiefs were built similar to teams who have won SBS, just as the vermeil chiefs were.

However, just as chief fans overvalue comp picks and offensive lineman, they're battered in thinking just because things went wrong for team x in the past, it will happen again.

jd1020 03-24-2014 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10513578)
However, just as chief fans overvalue comp picks and offensive lineman, they're battered in thinking just because things went wrong for team x in the past, it will happen again.

People start to think that when its gone wrong for 4 decades in a row.

htismaqe 03-24-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10513578)
Obviously there are situations where you meet a better team, run into a hog qb playing at a high level, etc you can lose in the playoffs, doesn mean you weren't built wrong.

There's just to many factors involved. The 90s chiefs were built similar to teams who have won SBS, just as the vermeil chiefs were.

However, just as chief fans overvalue comp picks and offensive lineman, they're battered in thinking just because things went wrong for team x in the past, it will happen again.

Teams win Super Bowls with their own QBs, not somebody else's.

O.city 03-24-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10513622)
Teams win Super Bowls with their own QBs, not somebody else's.

Teams win Sb's with good QB's, thats for sure.


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