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ChiefAshhole1056 12-21-2015 11:40 PM

If Maxwell just got paid 10.5 mil a year, better believe that Sean is going to easily get at least 12. Franchise tag for CBs last year was $13 mil, I suspect that's probably going to be at least $14.5 mil or so next season.

Chiefshrink 12-21-2015 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11969670)
Just being pragmatic...having a talented cover corner is more important to the over-all scheme. KC is stocked at safety...Sure, I would like KC to keep everyone but paying Berry CB money is stupid.

I don't know BO, I get your point but because of the emergence of the " athletic TE who plays like a WR type player in the last 10-15yrs because more teams are drafting these type of TEs, the safety position is just about as important as a shut down corner in covering these type of TEs. And when you look at the Chiefs especially this year our defensive play against TEs is very very good because we have talented depth at that position as some of you have stated.

ChiefAshhole1056 12-21-2015 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 11969880)
Get over it. Never going to happen.

Fat Andy will demand toys and fatties for the offense.

His last two first round picks were pass defense-oriented.

RunKC 12-21-2015 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 11969873)
The price tag for that is like 6mil a year, so just bite the bullet and keep the STUD you have. There is no incentive for this team to shop for player on the open market. None! The only position you do that for is saftey if we lose both Abdulah and Branch,

I would love to keep Sean Smith, but his price tag will skyrocket. Flowers got a $9.1m avg/yr offer from SD and he's a midget. Byron Maxwell just got a $10.5 avg/yr deal from Philly.

It's almost guaranteed that Sean Smith will get $10m avg/year or higher with his value to this league.

I'm of the opinion that no matter what you do with Smith, you draft a CB high in this draft.
Mr. Direkshun will be illustrating this as well as I will: the CB class for the 2016 draft looks as good as any we've seen in several years.

ChiefAshhole1056 12-21-2015 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 11969889)
I don't know BO, I get your point but because of the emergence of the " athletic TE who plays like a WR type player in the last 10-15yrs because more teams are drafting these type of TEs, the safety position is just about as important as a shut down corner in covering these type of TEs. And when you look at the Chiefs especially this year our defensive play against TEs is very very good because we have talented depth at that position as some of you have stated.

Dorsey has definitely shown a desire to solidify that position.

BryanBusby 12-21-2015 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11969801)
No GM is forking over $5 million per for a guy that can play every third game

There are teams out there that have to give stupid deals to reach the salary floor (see: Oakland and Hudson). I could see the Browns giving him that much if Schwartz bails out (hint: he will).

Here's who I see sticking around:
Berry (No way he's leaving. A fan and franchise favorite.)

DJ
Hali
DeVito

I see them taking team friendly deals to stay at home, and with a contender.

Zombo
West
Sorensen
Williams
King

Cheap.

Abdullah

A good player in the secondary.

Maybe they keep Howard. Will depend on what he wants.

I think they want to keep Sean Smith, but he's hitting hitting that point where he's going to get his only shot to cash in on a big money, several year deal. The Oakland Raiders will have something like 75 million dollars in cap space, and will suck a cock for any good CB. I wouldn't be shocked if they offered him a deal near Revis territory. Will Dorsey match Revis figures? No, probably not.

Branch might stay if they can't keep Abdullah for some reason. Otherwise, I see him trying to latch on with a good team for better dollars.

I believe the Chiefs will have the room to go after a FA or two. Mohamed Sanu, Travis Benjamin or Marvin Jones would make a lot of sense. The lack of anything worth a shit at WR beyond Maclin is very noticeable.

Squalor2 12-21-2015 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11969852)
Yeah, I'm gonna need you to clean up the grammatical errors and elaborate things a tad bit better before you're taken half way seriously.


i think you like children.

TLO 12-21-2015 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 11969880)
Get over it. Never going to happen.

Fat Andy will demand toys and fatties for the offense.

Yeah, because the Chiefs have never taken a CB in the first round!

DaneMcCloud 12-22-2015 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 11969895)
There are teams out there that have to give stupid deals to reach the salary floor (see: Oakland and Hudson).

It's one thing to shell out more money for dependable, reliable players.

Allen doesn't fall into that category.

penbrook 12-22-2015 12:03 AM

Holy shit for the last ****ing time we are not cutting the best player on our team and a future HOF in Charles. I will bet both my balls he will be a Chief for life

RunKC 12-22-2015 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11969914)
It's one thing to shell out more money for dependable, reliable players.

Allen doesn't fall into that category.

Yes, but I can see a team doing that. I wouldn't give him a big deal by any means, and it would have to be heavy in incentives.

The problem we've had every single year with this regime is rebooting and starting new players at new positions across the OL.
We finally have our starters locked up at every position next season, depending on how they feel about Grubbs.

Losing Jeff Allen won't hurt. Losing Grubbs and Allen shouldn't hurt. 2nd round G should be able to do a solid job and see no loss in production.
Andy might even get that guy in the first knowing his love of fatties.

Direckshun 12-22-2015 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 11969916)
Holy shit for the last ****ing time we are not cutting the best player on our team and a future HOF in Charles. I will bet both my balls he will be a Chief for life

Well I guess we win either way on that bet.

BlackOp 12-22-2015 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 11969889)
I don't know BO, I get your point but because of the emergence of the " athletic TE who plays like a WR type player in the last 10-15yrs because more teams are drafting these type of TEs, the safety position is just about as important as a shut down corner in covering these type of TEs. And when you look at the Chiefs especially this year our defensive play against TEs is very very good because we have talented depth at that position as some of you have stated.

It's really about attrition...Chiefs dont have a Branch or Abdullah waiting to take Smith's CB spot. ..Gaines is an undersized slot corner...just like they dont really have someone to cover DJ's position. IMO that makes Berry expendable...if it comes down where the money needs to go. Serviceable safeties are..obviously... much easier to find than 6-3 press corners.

Hoover 12-22-2015 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Li'l Smokey (Post 11969907)
Yeah, because the Chiefs have never taken a CB in the first round!

That's not my point at all. It's not going to happen because we are spending HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS on this defense. You can't just keep patching the offense with some duct tape, thus unless there is some crazy talent sitting there at CB or MLB, we going to invest in the offense with this next draft. There has to be some balance, and Andy Reid is our coach.

ChiefAshhole1056 12-22-2015 12:18 AM

Why are people ok with letting Berry leave because of money, but refuse to let go of JC? Which one has been more instrumental to the teams success this year? If anything, JC has proven to be the easiest to replace out of all of the high-paid starters.


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