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treeguy27 01-13-2024 08:51 PM

He has the IQ of a potato

deegs 01-13-2024 08:51 PM

**** this guy to hell

BWillie 01-13-2024 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17333640)
This guy is a liability. An $80m liability.

When he doesn't commit a penalty he's ok but the problem is he almost set the record for most penalties by a single player in the last decade.

RunKC 01-13-2024 10:22 PM

Allowed just 1 pressure tonight per the postgame. No QB hits or sacks allowed. Was amazing in pass pro.

He's the ultimate doubled edged sword

Pitt Gorilla 01-13-2024 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17333640)
This guy is a liability. An $80m liability.

I mean, he played pretty well. The false start was stupid, but other than that, he kept Pat clean. Isn't that THE point?

Pasta Little Brioni 01-13-2024 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17333640)
This guy is a liability. An $80m liability.

Huh? He was a stud tonight

Pasta Little Brioni 01-13-2024 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17333661)
How long are we stuck with this turd before it makes sense to cut him?

Clueless take

Pasta Little Brioni 01-13-2024 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17333684)
When he doesn't commit a penalty he's ok but the problem is he almost set the record for most penalties by a single player in the last decade.

Yes, because he was unfairly targeted thanks to Collinsworth. I've watched the same shit he's doing go UNCALLED ALL SEASON every damn other game in the league.

RINGLEADER 01-13-2024 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17333661)
How long are we stuck with this turd before it makes sense to cut him?

We've got him next year with a $25M cap number. No way to really get out of it even if you wanted to.

After next season we could cut him with a $9M dead money number but it would save us $15M in cap savings.

Gary Cooper 01-13-2024 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17335335)
Huh? He was a stud tonight

He better be. The Dolphins had numerous pass rushers injured. The Dolphins generated no pressure all game from their front, as expected.

It's interesting how so many posters think he's terrible and so many others think he's awesome. Few players create such polarizing views.

MVChiefFan 01-13-2024 10:47 PM

Why can’t we just chalk it up to a bad year penalty wise, with a little extra shit from the refs? He was a solid player at Jacksonville and he’s been pretty damn good in pass protection. Several people on this team have had a down year. Let’s give him another season and hope he gets it fixed. Hell, we might as well, we can’t cut him anyway.

ThaVirus 01-13-2024 10:50 PM

Move him to LT in the offseason.

You can’t get this sort of negative black hole of penalty suck from a $20m RT while you bargain shop for the guy protecting Mahomes’ blind side.

Womble 01-13-2024 10:56 PM

I am giddy with how well we played and I'm in a fantastic mood. But please don't tell me how well Taylor played after he erased 4 points off our score for that needless block in the back and should have cost us a possession for the false start on 3rd and 5.

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2024 10:58 PM

Count me in the camp that's confused why we're so mad at him tonight. Dude got ****ed on an awful penalty.

ThaVirus 01-13-2024 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17335437)
I am giddy with how well we played and I'm in a fantastic mood. But please don't tell me how well Taylor played after he erased 4 points off our score for that needless block in the back and should have cost us a possession for the false start on 3rd and 5.

There’s video evidence that he was pushed into Houston

tyecopeland 01-13-2024 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 17335356)
We've got him next year with a $25M cap number. No way to really get out of it even if you wanted to.

After next season we could cut him with a $9M dead money number but it would save us $15M in cap savings.

I've pasted this before but it apparently went mostly unnoticed.

He is on the team for at least two more years. His 3rd season on the team (2025) guarantees in March of THIS offseason.

Rain Man 01-13-2024 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17335453)
There’s video evidence that he was pushed into Houston

Yeah, that was completely a blown call, though I can see why the ref made the mistake. Taylor clearly got shoved into the other guys back. They should have picked up the flag and allowed the touchdown.

DJ's left nut 01-13-2024 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17335448)
Count me in the camp that's confused why we're so mad at him tonight. Dude got ****ed on an awful penalty.

He played well but nobody wants to hear it.

I'm drunk and happy and don't feel inclined to give books to those that will just eat the pages.

If they're convinced Jawaan Taylor was a pile of ass tonight - so be it. I just don't care.

**** 'em.

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2024 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17335540)
He played well but nobody wants to hear it.

I'm drunk and happy and don't feel inclined to give books to those that will just eat the pages.

If they're convinced Jawaan Taylor was a pile of ass tonight - so be it. I just don't care.

**** 'em.

I guess. But man, Pat had time to engage in high effort Jazzercise back there on almost every single drop back. Just not sure what there is to be that upset about.

tredadda 01-13-2024 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17335560)
I guess. But man, Pat had time to engage in high effort Jazzercise back there on almost every single drop back. Just not sure what there is to be that upset about.

He committed a penalty and for some that is unacceptable and they equate him to Jordan Black or Cam Erving. Also fits their Veach sucks mindset. He’s not Mitchell Schwartz, but he played a good game.

DJ's left nut 01-13-2024 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17335560)
I guess. But man, Pat had time to engage in high effort Jazzercise back there on almost every single drop back. Just not sure what there is to be that upset about.

This is correct.

Smith completely gacked a couple run reps and I couldn't give one **** less. Guy kept Mahomes clean. A jaked run rep that turns a 1st and 10 into 2nd and 11 is just as bad as a penalty that turns 1st and 10 into 1st and 15.

But when Smith bombs a run rep, nobody says boo. Taylor gets a 5 yard penalty or gets boned on an awful block in the back and he's just a worthless puddle of ****.

Okay. Fine. You know what you know and that's all that you'll know. I'm just not interested in the argument. Be wrong - it ain't any skin off my ass.

Pablo 01-13-2024 11:34 PM

Well when I see womble and comochiefsfan on one side of a take I just know I need to be on the other side no matter what.

Thanks for filling me in gents.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2024 11:38 PM

Some of you have no idea what you're watching.

Womble 01-13-2024 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17335599)
Some of you have no idea what you're watching.

Are you still scared of the Bills after watching that?

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-13-2024 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17335453)
There’s video evidence that he was pushed into Houston

They showed the push on Taylor on the jumbotron and it was obvious that he was pushed by 93 and it caused him to hit Houston. It actually was a BS call.

BWillie 01-14-2024 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17335199)
I mean, he played pretty well. The false start was stupid, but other than that, he kept Pat clean. Isn't that THE point?

He better keep the pocket clean against the Dolphins pass rush that has nobody.

RunKC 01-14-2024 12:03 AM

Just saw the false start penalty again. That one was on Creed. He moved before Jawaan

Pitt Gorilla 01-14-2024 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17335437)
I am giddy with how well we played and I'm in a fantastic mood. But please don't tell me how well Taylor played after he erased 4 points off our score for that needless block in the back and should have cost us a possession for the false start on 3rd and 5.

Even you could see it was a bullshit call.

I get that folks around here choose a narrative and stick with it, but Taylor did a nice job protecting Pat. That's it. That's all that matters.

JPH83 01-14-2024 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17335581)
This is correct.

Smith completely gacked a couple run reps and I couldn't give one **** less. Guy kept Mahomes clean. A jaked run rep that turns a 1st and 10 into 2nd and 11 is just as bad as a penalty that turns 1st and 10 into 1st and 15.

But when Smith bombs a run rep, nobody says boo. Taylor gets a 5 yard penalty or gets boned on an awful block in the back and he's just a worthless puddle of ****.

Okay. Fine. You know what you know and that's all that you'll know. I'm just not interested in the argument. Be wrong - it ain't any skin off my ass.

Didn't his penalty cost us 4 points? Is he largely keeping Mahomes from getting killed? Yep. Aside from that I'm not sure what we're defending here. He keeps giving away dumb penalties.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-14-2024 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17335802)
Didn't his penalty cost us 4 points? Is he largely keeping Mahomes from getting killed? Yep. Aside from that I'm not sure what we're defending here. He keeps giving away dumb penalties.

It was yet another phantom penalty on him

Hammock Parties 01-14-2024 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17335601)
Are you still scared of the Bills after watching that?

We have never beaten a good Bills team in Orchard Park at the height of their powers, with Western New York in full throat.

I will always be scared of that place until that demon has been buried.

JPH83 01-14-2024 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17335802)
Didn't his penalty cost us 4 points? Is he largely keeping Mahomes from getting killed? Yep. Aside from that I'm not sure what we're defending here. He keeps giving away dumb penalties.

Knew some dork would downvote. If he cuts out the penalties, cool, he could be a decent foundational piece. If not he's going to be a pain in the @ss. Clearly we can keep Mahomes healthy and win with him, which I get is the important calculation. But it's a lot of money for a RT that is committing that many penalties.

Next year I'm hopeful he can clean it up and get the spotlight off himself.

Coochie liquor 01-14-2024 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17335820)
We have never beaten a good Bills team in Orchard Park at the height of their powers, with Western New York in full throat.

I will always be scared of that place until that demon has been buried.

Bruh, Mahomes is gonna go into that shithole, come out with a dub, and make for a VERY long night at Niagara Falls!

TEX 01-14-2024 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17335855)
Bruh, Mahomes is gonna go into that shithole, come out with a dub, and make for a VERY long night at Niagara Falls!

As long as they only have to beat the Bills. IF they have to beat the officiating also, it likely won't happen.

Rausch 01-14-2024 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17335888)
As long as they only have to beat the Bills. IF they have to beat the officiating also, it likely won't happen.

Every team has to fight with and overcome bad officials.

It's been everywhere the last two years. Truly terrible...

FringeNC 01-14-2024 08:50 AM

Miami's edge rush was decimated, so it's not a great test, but I thought both offensive tackles did their jobs last night. When Miami didn't blitz, Pat had a clean pocket. That was evident early on and gave me confidence we'd win.

displacedinMN 01-14-2024 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17335903)
Every team has to fight with and overcome bad officials.

It's been everywhere the last two years. Truly terrible...

truly pathetic...and I think Taylor is a marked man

his block in the back was a BS call, which proves that

Chris Meck 01-14-2024 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17335398)
Move him to LT in the offseason.

You can’t get this sort of negative black hole of penalty suck from a $20m RT while you bargain shop for the guy protecting Mahomes’ blind side.

He's terrible! Let's move him to the blind side!

:LOL:

ThaVirus 01-14-2024 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17335963)
He's terrible! Let's move him to the blind side!

:LOL:

Point out the part where I said he’s terrible, you illiterate douche..

He’s competent and paid well, which is why I think we should move him to the left side.

He costs too much and commits too many penalties for me to be comfortable with him staying on the right side. In his current position, he’s been disappointing and bordering on bust status (still early). Throwing him in at LT would be a more effective use of resources.

Pinchshot 01-14-2024 10:44 AM

What's it gonna cost us to dump this guy?

Pasta Little Brioni 01-14-2024 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinchshot (Post 17336138)
What's it gonna cost us to dump this guy?

Piss off. He was phenomenal last night

Valiant 01-14-2024 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinchshot (Post 17336138)
What's it gonna cost us to dump this guy?

Can't till year 4. His final year unless he modifies his contract.

Valiant 01-14-2024 11:10 AM

I do think he will be better next year after the record setting penalties though.

Sure-Oz 01-14-2024 11:18 AM

Gotta think he works during the off-season and is much better next season. He's had a target since game 1 from the refs and dumb**** Collinsworth about his stance/release.

NJChiefsFan 01-14-2024 11:48 AM

Surely he can figure the penalty issue out. I'd rather him be a great tackle that takes penalties than a terrible tackle that never takes any.

One is a hell of a lot easier to fix than the other. Stuff snowballed on him this year. Some of it his fault, some not.

BWillie 01-14-2024 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17336108)
Point out the part where I said he’s terrible, you illiterate douche..

He’s competent and paid well, which is why I think we should move him to the left side.

He costs too much and commits too many penalties for me to be comfortable with him staying on the right side. In his current position, he’s been disappointing and bordering on bust status (still early). Throwing him in at LT would be a more effective use of resources.

My hope is they try to do this next year. Coach him up a bit in the offseason. Lessen the penalties and he'll be alright

Skyy God 01-14-2024 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 17336181)
Can't till year 4. His final year unless he modifies his contract.

Out after ‘25 (3rd year).

Same as most big contracts.

Redbled 01-14-2024 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17335185)
Allowed just 1 pressure tonight per the postgame. No QB hits or sacks allowed. Was amazing in pass pro.

He's the ultimate doubled edged sword


Dolphins had edge rushers off the street rushing.

duncan_idaho 01-14-2024 12:19 PM

Taylor’s pass protection is what was expected/hoped for. He can generally be left alone and hold up, even against really good rushers.

The penalties have obviously been a big issue. If he can clean those up I think it ends up working out pretty well.

Schwartz and Fisher spoiled us.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-14-2024 12:22 PM

Dude better figure out the penalties. That shit is aggravating.

FringeNC 01-14-2024 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17336347)
Taylor’s pass protection is what was expected/hoped for. He can generally be left alone and hold up, even against really good rushers.

The penalties have obviously been a big issue. If he can clean those up I think it ends up working out pretty well.

Schwartz and Fisher spoiled us.

Anyone pay close attention to Donovan Smith? How did he look? Better than Morris? Tough to put too much stock into yesterday given the lack of edge rushers for Miami, but when Miami didn't blitz, Mahomes had a lot of time.

Hoover 01-14-2024 12:50 PM

Well Patrick had all the time in the world last night. Miamis defense is depleted. But just average LT play should get the job done

Smed1065 01-14-2024 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17335820)
We have never beaten a good Bills team in Orchard Park at the height of their powers, with Western New York in full throat.

I will always be scared of that place until that demon has been buried.

Height of powers? :)

Pasta Little Brioni 01-14-2024 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17336355)
Dude better figure out the penalties. That shit is aggravating.

....and when they keep flagging him for shit literally no one else doing the same thing is called for and phantom blocks in back?

chop 01-14-2024 02:42 PM

Here is the penalty. It does appear that he was pushed.


https://twitter.com/bobbystroupe/sta...d_SIYK5df8I5Nw

TheGuardian 01-14-2024 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chop (Post 17336573)
Here is the penalty. It does appear that he was pushed.


https://twitter.com/bobbystroupe/sta...d_SIYK5df8I5Nw

Clearly he was pushed and that shouldn't have been a flag.

He played a really good game last night, as did Smith.

The difference in Smith and Morris is so staggering that I think people forgot how good Smith is (not saying Smith is some all pro I'm saying the drop is beyond severe).

DJ's left nut 01-14-2024 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17336648)
Clearly he was pushed and that shouldn't have been a flag.

He played a really good game last night, as did Smith.

The difference in Smith and Morris is so staggering that I think people forgot how good Smith is (not saying Smith is some all pro I'm saying the drop is beyond severe).

Yeah - we can put a pin in that Wanya experiment. People so badly wanted a cheap LT for next year that they took their eye off this year. Smith is clearly an improvement.

Gary Cooper 01-14-2024 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17336648)
Clearly he was pushed and that shouldn't have been a flag.

He played a really good game last night, as did Smith.

The difference in Smith and Morris is so staggering that I think people forgot how good Smith is (not saying Smith is some all pro I'm saying the drop is beyond severe).

Morris is a rookie taken in the 3rd round.

There should be a dropoff between him and Smith.

-King- 01-21-2024 08:45 PM

I gave him shit this season but what a ****ing game. Dude was perfect in pass pro and opened up holes for Pacheco and CEH.

Wisconsin_Chief 01-21-2024 08:46 PM

Absolutely beasted today.

ThaVirus 01-21-2024 08:47 PM

He was perfect today

PHOG 01-21-2024 08:48 PM

Very nice job Jawaan!

Pasta Little Brioni 01-22-2024 07:29 AM

Show him some ****ing respect

wachashi 01-22-2024 07:36 AM

He's finally earning his paycheck.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-22-2024 07:39 AM

Look at all the uncalled false starts on the Bills. It's been OBVIOUS ALL SEASON that he got unfairly singled out after Collinsworth embarrased NFL officiating on national TV week 1...the rest of the year? Commentators made EXCUSES for SHITTY INCORRECT CALLS the rest of the way. Jawan was unfairly targeted this year and it was obvious NFL commentary teams were told to lick Goodells clown crew officials boots after that week 1 fiasco

TheGuardian 01-22-2024 12:13 PM

Dude balled out last night. I mean dominated. Looked like an all world right tackle last night WHEN IT MATTERED.

Smith was nails too.

Pitt Gorilla 01-28-2024 10:48 PM

Man, he was good today. He made some mistakes, but he blocking on screens and in pass-pro for most of the night was awesome.

jjchieffan 01-28-2024 11:00 PM

I think that Taylor will be okay. Collinsworth screwed him on opening night and made him a target. He didn't deserve near all of the penalties that he got. But that died down as the year progressed and he improved as well. I don't know that he'll ever live up to the contract that he got. But I don't think that he's going to be the disaster at right tackle that he looked like for a while either. I would say that Smith will be gone and Morris will compete for the start at left tackle with a cheap vet free agent and the left side will be okay as well.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-28-2024 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17356206)
Show him some ****ing respect

Again...

irafreak 01-28-2024 11:04 PM

He's been good all season. Just had too many penalties. No lineman is perfect. Occasionally they get beat but He's solid.

TheGuardian 01-28-2024 11:04 PM

He was nails again. Today. Literally balled out.

Eleazar 01-28-2024 11:05 PM

I am not an o-line guru by any means, but he seems to me to be good when he isn't getting penalized.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-28-2024 11:08 PM

He and Smith both deserve immense credit, the whole OL really. I don’t understand how or why things changed, but they aren’t in the Super Bowl had they not improved accordingly.

DaFace 01-30-2024 11:28 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you were wondering why Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes handpicked Jawaan and the Chiefs gave him a bag ��… Watch here how he blocks both guys on a stunt.. Absolutely Amazing ‼️���������������� <a href="https://t.co/ANy7hqd2dk">pic.twitter.com/ANy7hqd2dk</a></p>&mdash; Coach Marlon (@marlonlew31) <a href="https://twitter.com/marlonlew31/status/1752312718533530031?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ThyKingdomCome15 01-30-2024 12:18 PM

I don't miss Wylie.

Shag 01-30-2024 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17376607)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you were wondering why Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes handpicked Jawaan and the Chiefs gave him a bag ��… Watch here how he blocks both guys on a stunt.. Absolutely Amazing ‼️���������������� <a href="https://t.co/ANy7hqd2dk">pic.twitter.com/ANy7hqd2dk</a></p>&mdash; Coach Marlon (@marlonlew31) <a href="https://twitter.com/marlonlew31/status/1752312718533530031?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That fist bump at the end is awesome, the excitement is palpable on a relatively insignificant play. The line has really gelled in the postseason, love to see it.

DJ's left nut 01-30-2024 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shag (Post 17376798)
That fist bump at the end is awesome, the excitement is palpable on a relatively insignificant play. The line has really gelled in the postseason, love to see it.

They've been good all year.

The only thing that's held them back has been the penalties. Some of those were overblown (including the holding calls on Smith).

Nobody ever thinks their OL is good enough but ours is DAMN good, especially when Donovan Smith is healthy.

Shag 01-30-2024 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17376804)
They've been good all year.

The only thing that's held them back has been the penalties. Some of those were overblown (including the holding calls on Smith).

Nobody ever thinks their OL is good enough but ours is DAMN good, especially when Donovan Smith is healthy.

I don't disagree, but Taylor had a challenging season, I don't think you can deny that. I think the penalty shit got in his head, and he had to rework his first step in pass pro, leading to some protection issues midseason. Interior line had some weird struggles at times this year, too - Tre had a few rough games. They weren't bad, but they also weren't what they've been so far this posteason, IMO.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-30-2024 01:02 PM

I just don't get how the OL as much or more than any other group "flipped the switch".

Was it this crazy intense laser focus players say Mahomes brings to the playoffs rubbing off on the whole unit? I'm not sure what else.

Just feels like guys took it up about five notches and boom, all the sudden all our signings look good.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-30-2024 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17376877)
I just don't get how the OL as much or more than any other group "flipped the switch".

Was it this crazy intense laser focus players say Mahomes brings to the playoffs rubbing off on the whole unit? I'm not sure what else.

Just feels like guys took it up about five notches and boom, all the sudden all our signings look good.

I dont usually believe in good loses, but they've been a different team since the Raiders Christmas game. Something must've flipped internally for them after that beating.


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