Better still when people realize he's a Pro Bowl level LT making the same money as Robert Hunt.

I'm going to will this into existence, dammit.

Mmmhrmm.

It just makes sense. And it’s the type of move our franchise would make just to piss everyone off as well.

Unless a prototype LT falls into our lap in the draft or cheaply via FA, it’s the move they should make.

If that happens....shit. We'd have a pretty damn good pick of RTs in the first couple of rounds.

There's one sitting right there for Chargem in the CP mock.

And guards are now making more.

We need sennott please

Be awfully hard to pass on Latham there, wouldn't it?

I mean he's an easy top 20 prospect. And I'm not wholly convinced he can't someday be a LT though I do think you'd have an easier time (by a lot) transitioning Taylor over instead.

I'd just take him and figure out who plays where in TC.

Hey, what do you know. The top four all block for mobile QBs.

:hmmm:

If we draft a pro bowl LT....the NFL is ****ed.

Perhaps, but they're still consistently available in rounds 3-5. You don't have to do it.

Jawaan Taylor is one of the highest paid right tackles in the NFL making $20 million and he still can’t figure how to line up correctly. This guy has been a disaster but our 3rd round second year player gets a lot more heat from this fan base.

That’s because the LT is going to get our all-world qb killed.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">K&#39;Lavon Chaisson went right around him for the sack ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LVvsKC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LVvsKC</a> on Prime Video<br>Also streaming on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLPlus?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLPlus</a> <a href="https://t.co/4USUxl6YRg">pic.twitter.com/4USUxl6YRg</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1862601390356369427?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mahomes drifted into Crosby multiple times yesterday. The entire line is suffering because of pressure the LT can't even slow down.

Kingsley was projected as a RT by many in the draft and that is probably where is skill set is best fit. If Humphries works out as adequate, hopefully he could resign without breaking the bank and we can get rid of Taylor after next year.

This aged well...

Really wish he could play LT. He is a cheater but at least he’s serviceable between the whistles.

Having him on Pat’s blindside and a shitter on the right side instead would definitely make Mahomes more comfortable.

This should have happened as soon as he was signed. Penalties or not he'd have been more solid than Smith and Morris.

I think yesterday was Jawaan’s hardest assignment. Crosby is the best EDGE rusher in football not named Myles Garrett.

The guy is so good with his hands and he’s agile as all hell. He’s so good at using power to speed and making tackles hands impossible to get on him.

Hate the guy but he’s insanely talented

The standard of play he's set recently really isn't acceptable. Morris is rightfully getting a ton of flak but Taylor has allowed 13 pressures in the last 3 games. Not good enough.

Like I said, Mahomes drifted to his side several times yesterday. Jawaan's pressure stats are inflated by the fact the LT can't even slow his man down.

Nah, he's been getting outright beaten as well.

I didn't say he wasn't. I just said it looks worse than it is. Doesn't mean he's not still bad.

Yup. There were instances where Taylor blocked Crosby and he got coverage hits/sacks. Mahomes can’t be holding the ball 3+ seconds that much against a rusher like Crosby

They didn't even need to put Crosby against Morris. Morris was so bad vs...anybody. imagine how bad it would have been if he was going against Crosby most times like Taylor.

Are Taylor’s penalty stats “inflated” as well?

People are still blaming Cris Collinsworth for the fact that Taylor cannot line up properly.

LMAO Right. One of the many talking points dlphg keeps cycling through to stan Morris is that the Raiders wouldn't put Crosby on him because he was beating him. It was the exact opposite. They didn't need to put Crosby over there because the other scrubs like Chaisson and Wilson were beating his ass like a drum.

Taylor isn't going to be the answer moving forward. I wondered throughout the game why they didn't stick hunt or Pacheco in the backfield to help out on pass plays. It's clear that pass blocking is a huge issue for this team. Mahomes has no time to make throws.

He's going to be a starting OT at least through the 2025 season. Is what it is.

Taylor isn’t really that bad, he’s the same player he’s always been. He just has a target on his back now and gets paid 80 million. When he was making pocket change in Jacksonville, he was considered a plus player. This is why you need to be able to draft a goddamn tackle on occasion. Because of our inability to do so, we’re stuck with a guy like Taylor at RT and soon to be Humphries at LT, and you have to pay both a premium just to have average players because of the positional value and you can’t find an NFL quality tackle in the draft.

Humphries plays halfway decent, you have no choice but to keep him, then you’ve got a slightly above average LT making 20 million a year and then the same on the right side. Having to do that shit is going to really screw us at other positions. It really, really sucks.

We won the chip last year with him at RT so I can forgive them for that, but I do wonder if they didn’t at least consider making the switch this offseason. They had to have seen how bad Kingsley and Wanya were back in August.

FWIW Jawaan played well in the playoffs when we needed him and wasn’t a penalty machine. I expect that again from him in January

The stupid illegal formation they love to call now kinda lowers his effectiveness. He's always lined up like that and only thr last year or two has the NFL been focusing on that. Its just a little frustrating we paid Taylor so much with the hope that we can make him an LT. And if we cant that he will be an elite RT. It seems he is very reliant on his early jump and setting up deep to give him nore time vs speed rushers.

Unfortunately every team has challenges and KC is no different.

Taylor was NEVER going to be a LT.

Move on.

Irrelevant. I already said Taylor was bad. I wasn't defending him at all so your question is irrelevant.

And in our case, our biggest challenge seems to be hindering the ability of the best QB on Earth to play to his full potential. That is a challenge they must finally figure out this offseason. No more bullshit, I really don’t care how much it costs financially or with picks.

Get a goddamn left tackle.

I don't think that will be the case this year. The referees are under a directive from the NFL to watch the illegal formation. So the chances are much better that he's going to get called for it in the playoffs this time around. Just like he has been during the season this year.

No doubt Pederson and crew knew what they were doing when they didn't resign this guy. His confidence is shot against speed rushers, and why he does not lineup on the line.

Veach sure hoped he could.

"First and foremost, I'd like to thank Drew Rosenhaus and his team as well as my staff for coming together to get this deal done," General Manager Brett Veach said. "Jawaan is a tough, athletic player that can play either side and gives us versatility along the line. He has four years under his belt in this league and has continued to show steady growth and improvement each season. We're happy to have him joining our offensive line room."

https://www.chiefs.com/news/chiefs-sign-t-jawaan-taylor

Yeah in hindsight a bit of a reach to think they could replicate the OJB move to the left side. Basically overpaid for an average at best RT.

Get something competitive on the left and he'll probably be better on the right as they could game plan help more to that side if needed at TE or RB out of the backfield. Right now it is the Autobahn one side...stop and go traffic and penalties on the other.

Never liked the contract and never thought he was a LT or even that decent a RT, but man there weren't many options at the time.

Jawaan was solid this game. He blocked anybody not named Maxx Crosby really well.

He lost to Crosby badly a few times unfortunately. Crosby is the 2nd best pass rusher in football IMO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All 18 plays where Raiders Had Pressure vs Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs<br><br>Charting:<br>Wanya Morris had 5 Quick Losses; 3 Late Losses for Pressures allowed<br>Jawaan Taylor had 1 Quick Loss (to Crosby); 5 Late Losses (4 to Maxx)<br>Blitz/Other OL had 6 pressures allowed (1 by LT Thuney) <a href="https://t.co/vj46XdZ6fN">pic.twitter.com/vj46XdZ6fN</a></p>&mdash; DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMacWake316/status/1862898327508972011?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jawaan Is an above average RT who can have poor games, average games where he gives away a penalty and some pressures. Then every now amd then he'll have a very good game. The guy has held his own on the biggest stages so I'm not gonna panic about him. Hopefully DJ can come in and settle down everyone on the line..

He's being paid around 20 mil/year to not know how to line up? Get your ass up on the line!

No shit. Move up literally just two inches and stop getting called for penalties they're looking specifically at you for.

This is just what you get when you can’t find tackles in the draft. You have to overpay for free agents, because no team lets their drafted OTs walk unless they’re deemed expendable. That leads to dudes like Taylor going out there and landing 80 million, while franchises like the Packers are finding guys like Rasheed Walker (7th round) and Zach Tom (5th round) and Love is writing poetry back there he has so much time. It’s so damn frustrating.

Injury watch?

Didn't catch what happened but saw Wanya getting snaps at RT

It was a knee, something he has been dealing with I believe. Hopefully they were just being cautious.

I didn’t even realize Wanya was in watching it live. Probably bc my ****ing heart stopped twice when Worthy and Chris went down momentarily. Glad they’re okay

Morris looked good when he stepped in today

Hope he's ready for next week because if Thuney plays LT and Morris plays RT, there's only so much help you can provide against the pass rush on both sides.

Seemed like he was every bit as good as Taylor.

Humphries is supposedly back next week, Thuney goes back to G

Lets hope Morris takes RT and runs away with it

Morris redemption tour incoming?

He certainly looked drastically more comfortable at RT than he ever has on the left side.

He's a very nice player as a swing tackle. That's twice now he's come in during games and stepped up for a short time (once at each spot) and that's exactly what you need out of that role.

No one noticed

Which is a good thing

Taylor single handily blew up that 4th and 1 fail with his missed block.

He’s a pathetic embarrassment.

It’s so frustrating to have to pay a guy like him 20 million a year. Not being able to find tackles in the draft is hindering us greatly. I mean, aside from winning all the Super Bowls. :)

First, it was the WR position. Finally, Veach finds two absolute baller WRs who will complement one another perfectly, but we can’t block the edge anymore and now that is going to be the issue holding us back.

They’re going to have to work some magic after the year, because we simply can’t keep repeating this cycle. But even if we don’t do shit, we’ll just keep winning, because whatever, **** it, we’re the Chiefs.

Now imagine wanting to play Cam Robinson the same money to be a less capable blocker at LT.

Which is probably going to happen, and we’ll probably have to part ways with Thuney to do it. That’s a double whammy. I don’t know how you justify to Mahomes letting him go into yet another season without a proven LT. Doesn’t seem like they can do that to him again.

“Less capable” than who?

Wanya? Kingsley?

LMAO

That was my thought. Cam Robinson has looked good in Minnesota

Yep, he has been very solid in Minnesota.

But you have the usual dumbshits here who think that Wanya and Kingsley are better options next year at LT.

Or Joe Thuney

Who said that Wanya or Kingsley were better options than Robinson?

Wouldn’t that be a strange turn of events?

From what I am hearing. Morris had a knee injury all year..which would explain a lot.

But the real worry. How the **** couldn't kinglsey beat a injured player out in practice.

Taylor hurt? Good.

I reeeeeally don't want to blow a top 5 LT contract on Cam Robinson, man. And I worry that some team is gong to offer him exactly that.

I know it's Mahomes and he needs protection, but the Chiefs are infinitely better off if they can get Kingsley to not suck. And in spite of what some posters claim, there are actually plenty of examples of raw OTs who looked like chumps as rookies but eventually turned into pretty good players.

I'm not saying Kingsley will be a better player than Robinson next year, but is the payoff from the risk worth it? I absolutely think it is.

Because you don't shuffle your OL midseason based on practices. Nobody does that. Injuries? Obviously yes. Are they getting the QB killed in games? Then yeah, go with somebody else. But you don't make the switch just because you like what you see at practice.

If the 'payoff' is retaining Bolton or Smith, I don't think it's worth the risk.

Especially when Morris can be as good at OG as Smith, IMO. And Robinson would free him up for that move. And Kingsley could probably take over for Taylor in 2026.

It's not THAT big of a reward for a pretty massive risk, IMO.

Wanya looked pretty damn good today at RT. Almost like he played on the right side in college and feels more comfortable there.

That might be something to look at

Its Happening. gif

They're going to keep Bolton or Smith anyway.

If they unsuck Kingsley in the offseason and he slowly keeps getting better and better over the next year or two, we not only saved cap cash for 3 years, but we can also secure somebody we trust to a longterm deal instead of hoping we don't get gouged by a dipshit n00b agent representing a greedy asshole who likes shoving foxtails up his ass

At this point I’m not against signing Donovan Smith just in case and have him take these next few weeks to get reacclimated. Essentially asking Humphries to get healthy and up to speed, might as well bring in another body who knows the system.

Speaking of OBJ, is he playing today or is he still playing with said foxtail over on the sidelines? :shrug:

Wanya Morris at RT yesterday: https://x.com/Jacobs71/status/1870835739870507142

Looks like a different player. Pretty wild how much more smooth and confident his maneuvers appear. I know Jawaan is better, but we could get by with Wanya playing like this on Wednesday.

If the Chiefs wanted to sign Smith, they would have. He's not coming back.