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RustShack 07-12-2014 11:05 AM

No possible way we are trading any of that young talent on the roster unless it's for a great player like Love. But Wiggins isn't on the table, sure we'd love to land Love, but we aren't desperate. LeBron loves Wiggins, and even down the road Wiggins could help LeBron get a few rings. Cavs are set up perfect to become a dynasty.

RustShack 07-12-2014 11:08 AM

I'm used to losing and typically don't expect great things. But yeah after Fred Hoiberg, Andy Reid, and now LBJ... I expect a lot of great things for my teams. Especially my basketball ones. Wouldn't surprise my if the Cavs and Cyclones win a championship the same season soon :)

tk13 07-12-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10743181)
No possible way we are trading any of that young talent on the roster unless it's for a great player like Love. But Wiggins isn't on the table, sure we'd love to land Love, but we aren't desperate. LeBron loves Wiggins, and even down the road Wiggins could help LeBron get a few rings. Cavs are set up perfect to become a dynasty.

LeBron loves Wiggins so much he didn't even mention him in the letter yesterday. Don't kid yourself. If LeBron really wants Love they'll give up what it takes to get him.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-12-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10743181)
No possible way we are trading any of that young talent on the roster unless it's for a great player like Love. But Wiggins isn't on the table, sure we'd love to land Love, but we aren't desperate. LeBron loves Wiggins, and even down the road Wiggins could help LeBron get a few rings. Cavs are set up perfect to become a dynasty.

They need another legit big. Tristan Thompson isn't good enough.

Discuss Thrower 07-12-2014 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10743187)
They need another legit big. Tristan Thompson isn't good enough.

Shaq is still pretty spry. Saw him dunking on 100 1st graders.

chiefzilla1501 07-12-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10743187)
They need another legit big. Tristan Thompson isn't good enough.

Varejao and Haywood will rotate minutes, and I'm guessing Andersen will be added to the mix. Tristan should go back where he belongs, which is Power Forward. It's serviceable and a lot better than what the Heat had in terms of grinders down low. They could really use a Big who can shoot to create spacing. They have to hope that Bennett can start doing that from the Power Forward spot.

But these are reasons why Lebron said they're not ready yet. I agree.

mcaj22 07-12-2014 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10743194)
Varejao and Haywood will rotate minutes, and I'm guessing Andersen will be added to the mix. Tristan should go back where he belongs, which is Power Forward. It's serviceable and a lot better than what the Heat had in terms of grinders down low. They could really use a Big who can shoot to create spacing. They have to hope that Bennett can start doing that from the Power Forward spot.

But these are reasons why Lebron said they're not ready yet. I agree.

Lebron hates having two big clunky guys at PF and C clog the lane. He loves himself a stretch 4. (insert Kevin Love).

chiefzilla1501 07-12-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10743198)
Lebron hates having two big clunky guys at PF and C clog the lane. He loves himself a stretch 4. (insert Kevin Love).

It's why Varejao is not a bad option at Center. He's an extremely active rebounder especially on offense and even though he doesn't shoot much, he tends to move around vs. posting up. That's assuming you can keep him healthy. They definitely need an outside shooting Big. Bennett can hopefully at least become a spot up shooter, and it's a real shame they didn't make a play for Hawes.

-King- 07-12-2014 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10743186)
LeBron loves Wiggins so much he didn't even mention him in the letter yesterday. Don't kid yourself. If LeBron really wants Love they'll give up what it takes to get him.

Exactly. Lebron has more pull than both the coach and GM there.
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mcaj22 07-12-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10743205)
It's why Varejao is not a bad option at Center. He's an extremely active rebounder especially on offense and even though he doesn't shoot much, he tends to move around vs. posting up. That's assuming you can keep him healthy. They definitely need an outside shooting Big. Bennett can hopefully at least become a spot up shooter, and it's a real shame they didn't make a play for Hawes.

there isn't many stretch 4s left out there which is why Hawes and Frye got massively overpaid.

-King- 07-12-2014 11:46 AM

Melo officially going back to the Knicks
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LiL stumppy 07-12-2014 11:48 AM

melo back to the knicks

RealSNR 07-12-2014 11:50 AM

And with that, expect Chicago to make some heavy bids for Kevin Love.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-12-2014 12:10 PM

Paycheck player Melo going back to NY. Shocker.

RustShack 07-12-2014 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10743186)
LeBron loves Wiggins so much he didn't even mention him in the letter yesterday. Don't kid yourself. If LeBron really wants Love they'll give up what it takes to get him.

He likes him enough to follow on twitter which he doesn't follow a whole bunch of peope. He was also following wiggins and not Parker who everyone for some reason thought should have been the top pick. You must be pretty good for you to follow as a college player.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-12-2014 12:32 PM

Morrow signs with OKC. Huge get for them.

tk13 07-12-2014 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10743257)
He likes him enough to follow on twitter which he doesn't follow a whole bunch of peope. He was also following wiggins and not Parker who everyone for some reason thought should have been the top pick. You must be pretty good for you to follow as a college player.

Wiggins was the most highly thought of high school player in years.

He wrote that letter listing all those Cavs players he was excited to work with and didn't mention Wiggins. You know that's not a coincidence. That letter was carefully thought out. I'm sure he'd be fine playing with the guy... but he didn't want to mention him in case he got traded for Love. You know that wasn't an oversight. Who he follows on Twitter is irrelevant.

Mr. Laz 07-12-2014 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10743232)
And with that, expect Chicago to make some heavy bids for Kevin Love.

actually i think Chicago is going after Gasol

RealSNR 07-12-2014 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10743265)
actually i think Chicago is going after Gasol

I thought he had already been signed for some reason.

Never mind, then.

Ceej 07-12-2014 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10743185)
I'm used to losing and typically don't expect great things. But yeah after Fred Hoiberg, Andy Reid, and now LBJ... I expect a lot of great things for my teams. Especially my basketball ones. Wouldn't surprise my if the Cavs and Cyclones win a championship the same season soon :)


Sure, like maybe a conference championship.

Miles 07-12-2014 01:05 PM

Morrow is a nice signing for OKC. Plays no D but great shooter.

-King- 07-12-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10743257)
He likes him enough to follow on twitter which he doesn't follow a whole bunch of peope. He was also following wiggins and not Parker who everyone for some reason thought should have been the top pick. You must be pretty good for you to follow as a college player.

He follows 250+ people. That's a bunch. He also follows Kevin love so...
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Miles 07-12-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 10743014)
Didn't want Pau with the Spurs.

Agreed. He would be perfect there with Pop managing his minutes.

Pitt Gorilla 07-12-2014 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 10743170)
If I was a Thunder fan I'd be happy that Pau Gasol isn't gonna end up in OKC. They don't need his soft old ass. He wouldn't be worth the contract they'd give him

I think Thunder fans just didn't want him in SA.

Pitt Gorilla 07-12-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10743181)
No possible way we are trading any of that young talent on the roster unless it's for a great player like Love. But Wiggins isn't on the table, sure we'd love to land Love, but we aren't desperate. LeBron loves Wiggins, and even down the road Wiggins could help LeBron get a few rings. Cavs are set up perfect to become a dynasty.

HTF do you know Wiggins isn't on the table?

Miles 07-12-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10743314)
HTF do you know Wiggins isn't on the table?

As painful as it is to defend this dumbass it has been reported from "multiple sources" Broussard.
3:49pm: The Cavs have told Wiggins he won’t be traded, but the Wolves continue to insist on his inclusion if they’re to give up Love, tweets Chris Broussard of ESPN.com, who says that the Cavs would have to bring a third team into the deal to find a workable solution.

ohiobronco2 07-12-2014 02:01 PM

I hope the Cavs don't trade Wiggins to get Love. Love is a great player, but Wiggins ceiling is too high for an oft injured one way player.

chiefzilla1501 07-12-2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ohiobronco2 (Post 10743347)
I hope the Cavs don't trade Wiggins to get Love. Love is a great player, but Wiggins ceiling is too high for an oft injured one way player.

Well, I think no doubt Love would be great. I just hate the Big 3 route. Lebron is going on 30 and he can't keep playing every single minute. And I don't want another version of the Heat where you have 3 stars and massive gaps at 2 key positions. I just would prefer not to give out a 3rd max contract in exchange for a guy like Wiggins, who you're going to get at half the cost. And at the expense of future picks who can help you build that cheap depth.

Miles 07-12-2014 02:13 PM

Looking more like the Bulls are going to get Pau. Really nice move for them depending on the details.

ChiefsCountry 07-12-2014 02:19 PM

The Chicago "Paper Tiger" Bulls might finally break through this year. As of right now it will be either the Spurs or Thunder to win it all.

-King- 07-12-2014 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ohiobronco2 (Post 10743347)
I hope the Cavs don't trade Wiggins to get Love. Love is a great player, but Wiggins ceiling is too high for an oft injured one way player.

Yes his ceiling is high, but I don't think he'll ever be a superstar. Being a Kevin Love type player I think would be where he maxes out as. I don't see him ever being a LeBron, KD, Kobe type player. So I would absolutely trade him for Love. If he turns out to be a superstar, it's not the greatest loss in the world. You'll still have Love and LeBron and you gained the ability to win now and in the future. With Wiggins instead of Love,the Cavs are in more of a win in the future type of approach.

Pitt Gorilla 07-12-2014 02:29 PM

Morrow seems like a great fit for the Thunder, if he can keep up the shooting.

Miles 07-12-2014 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10743375)
Yes his ceiling is high, but I don't think he'll ever be a superstar. Being a Kevin Love type player I think would be where he maxes out as. I don't see him ever being a LeBron, KD, Kobe type player. So I would absolutely trade him for Love. If he turns out to be a superstar, it's not the greatest loss in the world. You'll still have Love and LeBron and you gained the ability to win now and in the future. With Wiggins instead of Love,the Cavs are in more of a win in the future type of approach.

Love is a top 10 player already and who knows if Wiggens ever gets there. However, Wiggins is locked into a rookie deal where Love would be a vet max on his next.

ShowtimeSBMVP 07-12-2014 03:23 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Bulls in the process of finalizing a free agent deal with Pau Gasol. Will not be a sign-and-trade with Lakers, sources told ESPN.</p>&mdash; Brian Windhorst (@WindhorstESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/statuses/488070692328325120">July 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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The Bad Guy 07-12-2014 03:28 PM

Besides the Nick Young contract last year, Kupchak has done absolutely nothing for me to have any faith in him moving forward.

Without Dr. Buss, Kupchak has added garbage upon garbage on this dumpster fire of an organization.

Yesterday was the nail in the coffin for Laker fans. Good thing he held Pau Gasol at last year's trading deadline.

No coach, trading for garbage Lin, giving Jordan Hill 9 mill on average and basically going into next season with a roster that's overpaid the garbage talent last year's team had and only adding a 35-year old broken down Kobe and Julius Randle is atrocious when you have cap space.

Kupchak's new mantra is "well we will have cap space in 15 and 16". It doesn't matter if no one will accept your money but god damn bottom feeders.

ChiefsCountry 07-12-2014 03:43 PM

Rockets look to have signed Ariza.

penbrook 07-12-2014 03:51 PM

Reason why LeBron James would sign a 2-year deal: Wants to be free for when new CBA is signed in 2016 to make max money. Business. Man.

L.A. Chieffan 07-12-2014 03:52 PM

Omg it's not even a sign and trade? What a ****ing train wreck

Urc Burry 07-12-2014 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 10743461)
Reason why LeBron James would sign a 2-year deal: Wants to be free for when new CBA is signed in 2016 to make max money. Business. Man.

The man knows what he is doing. Genius

The Bad Guy 07-12-2014 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10743450)
Rockets look to have signed Ariza.

Of course they did. Lakers helped them by essentially trading 8.4 million for a draft pick in the late 20s.

**** you Mitch, **** you homeless looking Buss.

ChiefsCountry 07-12-2014 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10743474)
Of course they did. Lakers helped them by essentially trading 8.4 million for a draft pick in the late 20s.

**** you Mitch, **** you homeless looking Buss.

Ironically that is the dollar amount that Ariza got.

The Bad Guy 07-12-2014 03:59 PM

Are the Lakers going to let Jordan Hill and Jeremy Lin pick the next coach?

Good thing there was no reason to be aggressive on that front. Obviously you want garbage coaches coaching garbage players.

The Bad Guy 07-12-2014 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10743476)
Ironically that is the dollar amount that Ariza got.

More salt on the wound.

I'm just happy they paid Jordan Hill 9 million a year when he received zero other formal offers.

mcaj22 07-12-2014 04:02 PM

Lebron is totally teaming with Durant in 16 lol

The Bad Guy 07-12-2014 04:11 PM

I'm shocked that Houston let Parsons go though.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-12-2014 04:24 PM

Nice value for Ariza. .

KevB 07-12-2014 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10743489)
I'm shocked that Houston let Parsons go though.

They haven't decided on that from what I've read most recently. Wouldn't be surprised if they also bring him back.

KevB 07-12-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10743499)
Nice value for Ariza. .

We'll see, he's had two very good years in contract seasons. If he's a replacement for Parson's at roughly half the cost and he plays as well as last season, definitely good value.

BigCatDaddy 07-12-2014 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 10743461)
Reason why LeBron James would sign a 2-year deal: Wants to be free for when new CBA is signed in 2016 to make max money. Business. Man.

That and if they suck he can leave.

vailpass 07-12-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 10743461)
Reason why LeBron James would sign a 2-year deal: Wants to be free for when new CBA is signed in 2016 to make max money. Business. Man.

Agent work. 101.

chiefzilla1501 07-12-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10743375)
Yes his ceiling is high, but I don't think he'll ever be a superstar. Being a Kevin Love type player I think would be where he maxes out as. I don't see him ever being a LeBron, KD, Kobe type player. So I would absolutely trade him for Love. If he turns out to be a superstar, it's not the greatest loss in the world. You'll still have Love and LeBron and you gained the ability to win now and in the future. With Wiggins instead of Love,the Cavs are in more of a win in the future type of approach.

I feel very confident that Wiggins is going to be a superstar defender. I know Lebron needs shooters especially with his bigs, but on the Cavs roster, he's going to need defensive help and Love is only going to make that problem worse. I think the Cavs need Wiggins a lot more than Love because of his cap flexibility, because it allows you to keep draft picks that can bring in fresh legs, and most importantly because of his defense. We have to stop looking at Lebron as a 40 minute player and start figuring out ways you can get Lebron out of a game and not completely implode. I think Wiggins is NBA ready defensively and you can take Lebron out, put Wiggins on the best defender, and let Kyrie and Dion take the shots. If you trade Wiggins for Love, that defensive lineup will be a disaster.

Titty Meat 07-12-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10743429)
Besides the Nick Young contract last year, Kupchak has done absolutely nothing for me to have any faith in him moving forward.

Without Dr. Buss, Kupchak has added garbage upon garbage on this dumpster fire of an organization.

Yesterday was the nail in the coffin for Laker fans. Good thing he held Pau Gasol at last year's trading deadline.

No coach, trading for garbage Lin, giving Jordan Hill 9 mill on average and basically going into next season with a roster that's overpaid the garbage talent last year's team had and only adding a 35-year old broken down Kobe and Julius Randle is atrocious when you have cap space.

Kupchak's new mantra is "well we will have cap space in 15 and 16". It doesn't matter if no one will accept your money but god damn bottom feeders.

Mitch is a dumbass but just how big of a dick is Kobe? Top 10 player all time with a bunch of cap space and not 1 star signed to play with him.

Mr. Laz 07-12-2014 06:28 PM

Pau Gasol tweets he's joining Bulls
Updated: July 12, 2014, 7:08 PM ET
By Brian Windhorst | ESPN.com

The Chicago Bulls have reached an agreement with free-agent center Pau Gasol on a multiyear deal.

Gasol announced that he had chosen the Bulls on his Twitter feed Saturday.

Discussions between Chicago and the Los Angeles Lakers on a sign-and-trade deal for Gasol broke down, so the four-time All-Star will sign directly with the Bulls, sources told ESPN.com.

Chicago currently does not have salary-cap space, so it will have to make roster moves to free room to add Gasol.

Carmelo Anthony would have been a perfect fit, but Pau Gasol isn't a bad consolation prize for the Bulls, Jon Greenberg writes. Story

If the Bulls are unable to work a last-minute trade of Carlos Boozer, it likely means they will have to release him via the amnesty provision and clear the forward's $16.8 million off their salary cap to make room for Gasol. The deadline for such a move is Wednesday.

Boozer then would be placed on waivers and teams with cap space could bid to pick up a portion of his contract. The team with the highest bid would get his services. With so many teams currently owning cap space, it is doubtful Boozer would pass through and become an unrestricted free agent.

The Bulls are also hoping to create additional cap space to sign 2011 first-round draft pick Nikola Mirotic, who reached a buyout agreement with his Spanish team last week with the intention of coming to the NBA. The 6-foot-10 power forward has been seen as an offseason priority for the Bulls as they look to bolster a strong front line that already includes Joakim Noah and Taj Gibson.

Gasol, one of the most coveted free agents on the market, was pursued aggressively by the San Antonio Spurs and Oklahoma City Thunder. He also had talks with the Miami Heat and Lakers, with whom he played six seasons and won two titles. Gasol averaged 17.4 points and 9.7 rebounds in 60 games for Los Angeles last season.

okcchief 07-12-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 10743170)
If I was a Thunder fan I'd be happy that Pau Gasol isn't gonna end up in OKC. They don't need his soft old ass. He wouldn't be worth the contract they'd give him

I wanted him for the MLE. I think the contract he got could bite us in the ass. Happy they got Morrow at least.

okcchief 07-12-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10743179)
Gasol's passing and post game is exactly what OKC needs. He'd make that offense damned near unstoppable.

Imagine a crunch time five of Westbrook, Reggie Jackson, Durant, Gasol, and Ibaka. That gives you elite perimeter defense with an elite rim protector, a transcendent post passer, three great finishers, two guys who can get their own shots, and two bigs you can run the pick and pop with.

I do agree but if you give him 10 million a year Reggie is gone next year. I'm excited about McGary. Seems like he has great hands, is a good passer, can run the floor and finish. I could be wrong but I think he's more ready than Adams was last year. The young nucleus developing maybe enough to keep KD in a few years when they mature. Then there's that part of you that wants to go balls deep now. They are one of the most successful teams over the last several years so they've definitely done well sticking to the plan. It's that one big contract that ****ed everything.

RustShack 07-12-2014 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10743314)
HTF do you know Wiggins isn't on the table?

Because they told him, and told him again he isn't being traded despite the rumors?

Pitt Gorilla 07-12-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10743582)
Mitch is a dumbass but just how big of a dick is Kobe? Top 10 player all time with a bunch of cap space and not 1 star signed to play with him.

Nobody, outside of Laker Fan, thought that the Lakers would sign anyone of significance. Nobody wants to play with Kobe.

tk13 07-12-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10743720)
Because they told him, and told him again he isn't being traded despite the rumors?

Dan Gilbert's plane is not heading to Miami.

Pitt Gorilla 07-12-2014 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 10743711)
I do agree but if you give him 10 million a year Reggie is gone next year. I'm excited about McGary. Seems like he has great hands, is a good passer, can run the floor and finish. I could be wrong but I think he's more ready than Adams was last year. The young nucleus developing maybe enough to keep KD in a few years when they mature. Then there's that part of you that wants to go balls deep now. They are one of the most successful teams over the last several years so they've definitely done well sticking to the plan. It's that one big contract that ****ed everything.

Why did they offer that contract? Serious question.

Pitt Gorilla 07-12-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10743720)
Because they told him, and told him again he isn't being traded despite the rumors?

Gilbert also said the Cavs would win a championship before Lebron would in Miami. You buying that as well?

Al Bundy 07-12-2014 07:44 PM

FWIW
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Cavs working three team deal w/ Warriors/TWolves. Warriors get multiple 1st rnd picks. Wolves get Klay and Tristan Thompson. Love to Cavs</p>&mdash; Mike Cairns (@MikeCairns5) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeCairns5/statuses/488104572632563712">July 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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penbrook 07-12-2014 07:53 PM

Kevin Love wallpaper removed at Target Center..

KC Hawks 07-12-2014 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 10743776)
FWIW
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Cavs working three team deal w/ Warriors/TWolves. Warriors get multiple 1st rnd picks. Wolves get Klay and Tristan Thompson. Love to Cavs</p>&mdash; Mike Cairns (@MikeCairns5) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeCairns5/statuses/488104572632563712">July 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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There's no way that's happening. The Warriors don't want to trade Klay Thompson for Love, but will for draft picks? Yeah, no.

penbrook 07-12-2014 07:54 PM

Kevin Loves wallpaper is already being removed from Target center.

The Bad Guy 07-12-2014 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10743582)
Mitch is a dumbass but just how big of a dick is Kobe? Top 10 player all time with a bunch of cap space and not 1 star signed to play with him.

I can't blame Kobe for those jackasses handing him that kind of contract. He's earned all that money.

The only star they had a realistic shot at was Melo but I'm glad he went elsewhere. I think the main thing playing against Kobe at this point, besides the cap number (which in the end really doesn't matter, because Mitch and bum Buss couldn't get anyone worth shit to sign) is Kobe's health moving forward.

The Bad Guy 07-12-2014 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 10743795)
There's no way that's happening. The Warriors don't want to trade Klay Thompson for Love, but will for draft picks? Yeah, no.

Absurd rumor.

So the Cavs are basically going to get Love for 2 firsts and a Tristan Thompson? Yeah, ok.

chiefzilla1501 07-12-2014 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 10743795)
There's no way that's happening. The Warriors don't want to trade Klay Thompson for Love, but will for draft picks? Yeah, no.

It's possible Love is saying Cleveland or bust. If so, then Minnesota lost a lot of leverage and Golden State knows they're out of the game.

Maybe they were posturing about not wanting to get rid of Klay Thompson. If they're intent on getting rid of him, maybe the Cavs throw in Waiters and a shitload of first rounders which could turn into a nice haul.

-King- 07-12-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 10743776)
FWIW
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Cavs working three team deal w/ Warriors/TWolves. Warriors get multiple 1st rnd picks. Wolves get Klay and Tristan Thompson. Love to Cavs</p>&mdash; Mike Cairns (@MikeCairns5) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeCairns5/statuses/488104572632563712">July 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Thats the stupidest thing I've seen since free agency started. So the Warriors don't want to give up Klay for Love, but they'll do it for draft picks? If they were going to trade Klay, they'd just go ahead and get Love themselves.

Al Bundy 07-12-2014 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10743820)
Thats the stupidest thing I've seen since free agency started. So the Warriors don't want to give up Klay for Love, but they'll do it for draft picks? If they were going to trade Klay, they'd just go ahead and get Love themselves.

The other sticking point is the Warriors DO NOT WANT the Martin contract and Minnesota was only interested in a trade with Golden State that would rid them of that contract.

chiefzilla1501 07-12-2014 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10743820)
Thats the stupidest thing I've seen since free agency started. So the Warriors don't want to give up Klay for Love, but they'll do it for draft picks? If they were going to trade Klay, they'd just go ahead and get Love themselves.

Do we actually know the Warriors won't trade Klay for Love? The Cavs also said they won't trade Wiggins. Doesn't mean I believe it. It seems like the thing holding up a Golden State Love deal was Love, not the Warriors. If Love is hell bent on going to Cleveland, then no Golden State trade comp to Minnesota would make much of a difference.

-King- 07-12-2014 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10743835)
Do we actually know the Warriors won't trade Klay for Love? The Cavs also said they won't trade Wiggins. Doesn't mean I believe it. It seems like the thing holding up a Golden State Love deal was Love, not the Warriors. If Love is hell bent on going to Cleveland, then no Golden State trade comp to Minnesota would make much of a difference.

No what held up the deal was Warriors not wanting to give up Klay.

Al Bundy 07-12-2014 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10743841)
No what held up the deal was Warriors not wanting to give up Klay.

The Kelvin Martin contract was a bigger issue than what is being let on.

chiefzilla1501 07-12-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 10743842)
The Kelvin Martin contract was a bigger issue than what is being let on.

That and maybe Golden State overplayed their hand. In either case, there seemed to be a point where Love seemed only interested in Cleveland. At that point, both the Warriors and Timberwolves lost a ton of leverage. They both may have overplayed their hand a bit.

Al Bundy 07-12-2014 09:00 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>T-Wolves&#39; stance in recent trade talks is said to remain same: If Klay Thompson part of deal, Kevin Love will go to Warriors, not Cavs.</p>&mdash; Sam Amico (@SamAmicoFSO) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSO/statuses/488149165457682432">July 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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ChiefsCountry 07-12-2014 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 10743900)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>T-Wolves' stance in recent trade talks is said to remain same: If Klay Thompson part of deal, Kevin Love will go to Warriors, not Cavs.</p>&mdash; Sam Amico (@SamAmicoFSO) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSO/statuses/488149165457682432">July 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Good hope the Warriors get him.

chiefzilla1501 07-12-2014 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 10743900)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>T-Wolves' stance in recent trade talks is said to remain same: If Klay Thompson part of deal, Kevin Love will go to Warriors, not Cavs.</p>&mdash; Sam Amico (@SamAmicoFSO) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSO/statuses/488149165457682432">July 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Assuming Kevin Love still wants to go there. Right now, he's the guy with the most leverage.

Al Bundy 07-12-2014 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10743906)
Assuming Kevin Love still wants to go there. Right now, he's the guy with the most leverage.

Klay will when it comes time for that max contract.

KC Hawks 07-12-2014 10:03 PM

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RustShack 07-12-2014 10:07 PM

I was told the Cavs can't get Love unless it was for Wiggins though.

RealSNR 07-12-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10743965)
I was told the Cavs can't get Love unless it was for Wiggins though.

You were told that Wiggins was the only worthy player asset on your team worthy of being included in a trade for Love.


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