Also, I'm not sure that guy was some deranged fan like some people are trying to suggest. He was probably a media or paparazzi type.

So she's a winner.........but only one time on a team with a lot of talent and a HOF HC who also got to avoid South Carolina for her only championship?

By not comparing her to Clark you really aren’t appreciating the difference between winning and losing at all. Your argument is pretty stupid. NC’s of any year can say they are winners. Just like never winning one will always put you in the category with the losers like Clark, Barkley and Marino.

It was an MVP type foul in the NBA. Clark and her flock of the pearl-clutchers made it seem like an attempted murder, though.
https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-12-2022/yWB_p-.gif

That foul you posted got Jokic a flagrant 2 and ejected. the clark foul would have been way less controversial if the refs just called it instead of head scratchingly calling it a common foul. You can play her tough but it’s weird treatment for the wnba to intentionally turn the other way to “teach her a lesson.”

I don't have a reason to compare her with Clark. Using the "You are a winner because your team won" is silly. I guess using that logic CEH, Hardman, Nnadi etc.... are true winners while people like DT, Jefferson, Barry Sanders etc..... are major losers because the team they were on did not win. It's not that cut and dry in team sports.

Now let's compare her situation to Clark's, at least in college. Swap Clark and Reese and let me know if Reese takes Iowa to not one, but two championship game appearances.

When I asked why she didn't have more I was told it was because of SC and UCONN. The ring Reese did win was because her team didn't have to face SC because Iowa, led by Clark dispatched them. Even in that NC game, Clark was the best player on the floor. When Reese the "winner" was at Maryland no one had a clue who she was. She had to transfer to get on a better team because all her "winning" did nothing for Maryland.

Hopefully your comment wasn't serious, but if it was then Wow.

Did "Ms privilege" end up in the hospital or something? Smh toughen up ffs ROFL

She still won. Clark choked In both finals. It is what it is buddy.

SPOT ON SIR :clap:

Bwahah I forgot about that one. Did folks spend all week ranting about it or did they ignore it because it was Jokic who did it? :LOL:

Did you watch either game? She didn’t choke. She was the best player on the floor in both games. Where was Reese as a freshman, sophomore, or even as a senior? Reese wasn’t even the best player on her team the year they won it all.

That’s absurd. College sports is not a level playing field, especially in women’s college bball where you have super teams who pump lots of money into recruiting. Patrick mahomes never even came close to sniffing a national championship. Neither did Steph curry. If she doesn’t win one in the pros a few years from now we can start to have that discussion.

You really should have chose a better example.

Morris checked Jokic and your gif is of Jokic's retaliation, which he got ejected for. It's apples to oranges, and the NBA even actually made the right call. None of the above fits the WNBA situation.

It is humorous that the NBA showcased him rolling around on the floor for what seemed like forever, twice, and flooded the court with people while the WNBA basically said get the **** up and play on. If I remember right I think you can even see him saying "I'm ok" while flopping around on the floor like a fish to play it up.

LMAO That Jokic foul got talked about for quite a while too.

50 CENT :LOL:

Lol committed dumb fouls against LSU to keep herself on the bench when her team needed her and in the Carolina game she got shut down by RAVEN Johnson and turned the ball over like crazy leading to vital buckets like the one before the half. But keep pretending buddy :)

Ok. It’s clear that you have little desire to actually have a conversation, so continue being obtuse.

How did Reese do in the championship game this year?

She has a RING after beating Clark buddy. Please read the room this is not a question you want to ask ROFL

She beat Clark? Or did her team beat Clark’s team? Why didn’t the winner of winners have more than one. Again back to my point that rings in team sports are not the only gauge of success. If that was the case then CEH is 100x the RB that Barry Sanders is and Hardman is the same thing in comparison to Randy Moss.

Did Sanders play against Ceh? No. So your point is both dumb and futile. Reese and Clark PLAYED EACHOTHER in a final and Clark lost. End of story.

Nope. Not futile or dumb. You are just so biased and slanted towards the narrative that you want that you will continue to move the goalposts to suit what works for you. They played one time. One. Reese was on a far better team and despite being outplayed by Clark you want to use that ring as the gauge. So based on your logic (that shifts with the wind), David Tyree is a better WR than Randy Moss because his team beat Moss’s team and rings are all that matter, especially head to head.

That makes Tyree a WINNER and Moss a LOSER. I imagine though that you will shift again to not include this and find something else to use.

Comparing nfl with NBA is dumb logic you moron because Moss can't control what the defense, special teams or QB does. But in basketball Clark and Reese have a way bigger influence and the bottom line is Clark LOST two finals. FACT. A Clark groupie like you will always make excuses of course but the history books won't lie. Clark, DIDN'T GET IT DONE!!. Fullstop.

Nope. Not a Clark groupie at all. Just trying to make sense of your logic which, as expected, shifted again. You agreed that those with rings are winners and those without are losers. I then compared CEH (two rings) with Sanders (zero) and Hardman (three rings) with Moss (zero). You then argued that it didn’t count because they didn’t play against each other. So when I compared Tyree(one ring and head to head victory) to Moss (zero rings and head to head loss to Tyree) and you adjusted again.

Then the team as a whole mattered…..just not with Clark. I guess Doncic is a loser too because despite his 30pts, 10 rebounds, 1 assist, and 2 steals, his team lost by 18. A winner is people like Sam Hauser because his team won and he contributed to it.

I guess team success matters when it suits a narrative and individual success matters when a different narrative is needed. Pick a stance and stand by it vs adjusting to fit your anti Clark bias.

So is comparing with college basketball where super programs control a disproportionate amount of resources and ability to recruit a full team. These teams have bench players better than most teams starters. There’s a reason Steph had no college success. There’s a long long long line of generational players in all sports, including basketball, who didn’t do dick in college. Especially those who didn’t go to a super team.

They played each other in the eliite 8, Reese had the more talented supporting cast and .............

Seriously would any GM on the planet pick Reese over Clark? Reese was lucky to go No 7.

Just checking in:

Caitlin Clark is still the queen of the WNBA.

A guy losing a final is one thing. But if you LOSE TWO IN A ROW then yes, HE IS A LOSER LIKE CLARK!!. Period. And your argument sucks when trying to compare all time greats to jags. Why not compare Sanders to Emmitt Smith?? It undermines your argument because one was a winner and one wasn't.

The Fever game is on the ION channel starting in a few minutes.

Clark is the all time scoring leader in women’s college basketball who willed a very meh Iowa team to two championship game appearances. That’s not a JAG. Why did I not compare Emmitt Smith to Barry Sanders? Simple. They are both legendary players and I don’t use rings to justify one over the other. You on the other hand are using rings as a measuring stick. Difference is your argument was foolish, flawed, and easily exposed.

I don’t hate or even dislike Reese. She’s a great player who did nothing her first two years in college, transferred to a more talented team with a HOF HC, won a championship and didn’t even make the championship game after. Clark accomplished far more with less talent around her in college and the jury is still out on whether that will translate to the WNBA.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the largest attendance of any WNBA game EVER! Caitlin Clark is the reason 20,333 total tickets sold �� <a href="https://t.co/4SmDAKzGzc">pic.twitter.com/4SmDAKzGzc</a></p>&mdash; Aura Sports (@AuraSportsHQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/AuraSportsHQ/status/1799249550886199562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caitlin Clark knocks it down even while fading away to her left. Wow��������<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WNBA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WNBA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FeverRising?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FeverRising</a> <a href="https://t.co/lMmPGGVq4m">pic.twitter.com/lMmPGGVq4m</a></p>&mdash; Ashwin (@Sudharsan_ak) <a href="https://twitter.com/Sudharsan_ak/status/1799229252539211876?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caitlin Clark cashes in on her third triple of the night �� <a href="https://t.co/JjnHTfsHCa">pic.twitter.com/JjnHTfsHCa</a></p>&mdash; Indiana Fever (@IndianaFever) <a href="https://twitter.com/IndianaFever/status/1799243004840149052?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caitlin Clark with BACK-TO-BACK TRIPLES ��<br><br>She has hit FIVE 3-pointers so far!<a href="https://t.co/iJ4uNKlvhP">pic.twitter.com/iJ4uNKlvhP</a></p>&mdash; DraftKings (@DraftKings) <a href="https://twitter.com/DraftKings/status/1799244613049635274?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caitlin Clark no stepback mortal!<br><br>+3<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FeverRising?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FeverRising</a><a href="https://t.co/63MR1RPUix">pic.twitter.com/63MR1RPUix</a></p>&mdash; Indiana Fever ���� (@IndianaFeverBr_) <a href="https://twitter.com/IndianaFeverBr_/status/1799247738129002602?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caitlin Clark right now <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/wnba?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#wnba</a> <a href="https://t.co/AXVitDBCdE">pic.twitter.com/AXVitDBCdE</a></p>&mdash; M3_YOURS3LF (@MIRANDO_22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MIRANDO_22/status/1799244434464469295?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a night for Caitlin Clark in the win vs. Washington:<br><br>�� 30 Points<br>�� 7 3-Pointers<br>�� 8 Rebounds<br>�� 6 Assists<br>�� 3 Steals <a href="https://t.co/cn1MGI0oiT">pic.twitter.com/cn1MGI0oiT</a></p>&mdash; DraftKings (@DraftKings) <a href="https://twitter.com/DraftKings/status/1799253998337212920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caitlin Clark haters right now<br>������ <a href="https://t.co/NWjDDJHXaX">pic.twitter.com/NWjDDJHXaX</a></p>&mdash; FaRKaSCaST (@farkascast) <a href="https://twitter.com/farkascast/status/1799248785941622936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Clark scores 30 in an 85-83 win.

That should shut that mother****er up for a couple days at least.

Clark is amazing

ROFL

How many turnovers did she have?

Men’s college basketball is like that, but there really aren’t a lot of elite women’s basketball players to end their college careers without a ring. Jackie Stiles and Kelsey Plum are really the only ones that comes to mind. Clark chose a similar path as Stiles and Plum for sure. Great talent that chose a small school without the elite pedigree as some of the others. This is a large reason why they are all top 5 leading scorers in the NCAA because they didn’t have the supporting cast to share production with. I think Brittney Griner is the only player to be top 10 in scoring to actually win a title. Sheryl Swoopes is the only player in mind to actually carry her team to a title pretty much single handedly that I can think of as well.

How could he speak against her at this point?

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Good stuff by A'ja Wilson!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With her performance tonight, A’ja Wilson has tied Diana Taurasi (13) for the longest streak of 20+ PT games in WNBA History ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WelcometotheW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WelcometotheW</a> <a href="https://t.co/UCqP1VWz8l">pic.twitter.com/UCqP1VWz8l</a></p>&mdash; WNBA (@WNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/WNBA/status/1799289810336846013?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hey!!!!

Stay on topic here

Man this thread is never going to die

Actually this is bs. Reese and Clark played eachother for a ring. So they faced off on the big stage and one beating the other had a direct impact on their own legacies. And your assumption that Reese was on some "all world team" is nonsense. Lsu were far from the favourites to win the championship that year themselves and were close to going out during that run.

Angel Reese after seeing Clark's incredible performance tonight:

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/y8...3bbca51c0df234

She's by far the best player in the league and it's great to see her dominance is finally being given the praise it deserves.

Anyway Clark went off tonight with seven three's for 30 points as Indiana and Washington played "the Paige Bowl" with them being the two worst teams in the league. You could see the confidence was flowing when she hit her third three and after that Washington were in trouble. Though tbf they did rally through the storm and took the game right to the end.

Another eight turnovers by Clark wasn't good though which is the fourth time she's had seven plus giveaways in a game.

All in all it was a step in the right direction for Clark so we'll see if she can keep this offensive output going.

Just watched a recap of Clark's 30 point game. She was hitting bombs and a couple were off balance. She's a player.

That's the same Mystics team your Sky-Town team played a couple of nights ago and you raved about your gals 29% effort from the floor.

And now the USA has chosen not to include Caitlin clark on the Olympics. They continue to drop the bag on this. She of course should not and would not play, and she doesn’t need to. But for a team that’s a sure thing for gold medal why wouldn’t you include her to keep the interest going? I think the wnba legit thinks the ratings bonanza will continue but it’s probably not gonna happen without her there.

She had a double double which deserved to be celebrated :evil:

How many dunks she have?

stop quoting him, pretend he doesn't exist and maybe he'll go away

If I'm on his "ignore list" why does this prick keep talking about me? No-one cares what you think dummy so quit begging ROFL

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Washington Mystics moved tonight’s game against Caitlin Clark and the Indiana Fever from their normal 4,200-seat arena to the 20,356-seat Capital One arena.<br><br>However, the 16,000 extra seats weren’t a problem, as tickets sold out in 30 minutes. <a href="https://t.co/ZHvKqBqQdJ">https://t.co/ZHvKqBqQdJ</a></p>&mdash; Joe Pompliano (@JoePompliano) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoePompliano/status/1799242095716348166?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

HOLD ON!!..WAS THE GREAT CAITLIN CLARK JUST LEFT OFF THE OLYMPIC TEAM??? WOOOOWWWWW HOW COULD THIS INJUSTICE HAPPEN TO THE NATION'S NEW SWEETHEART??

:jester: LMAO

Did they say why?

Shut up, reerun.

Tryouts were held when Iowa was still playing in the NCAA Tournament.

Oh, so no conspiracy then. Just a scheduling conflict.

I'm sure they want her on there..ratings and merchandise sales would be crazy high. She was probably asked and declined because she didn't want special treatment and more butt hurt from players.

Cope better bro :deevee: :D

Yep

Ok. At this point it’s time to move on as it’s clear that you have an opinion and despite overwhelming evidence against it you will continue to just dig your heels in and adjust your responses to fit the narrative that you want. You are essentially the Loneiguana of the main board.

I don't think it works that way. Imagine a more reeruned british Hootie. Hyper-fixated and unwavering. What Knowmo might look like if he watched soccer and smacked his head on a curb 3 or 4 times.

I think of him as the Knowmo of this thread.

I think we all know why. Christian laettner had no business on the USA team. This has nothing to do with the most qualified. This is about the back half of the roster that will barely ever play. They claim fans would complain that she got too little playing time but we know that’s
bs

The fat Jemele Hills of the world would get triggered and jealous if Clark was on the team.

She should have been rostered for eyeballs, if nothing else. She probably shouldn't make the team, but they're crazy for not putting her on there.

They left Clark off the team… but selected America-hating freak show Brittany Grinder?

JFC I hope they lose every game.

Apparently her mother is of Italian decent. It would be awesome if she went and played for them instead.

They saw what the women's soccer team did and decided to repeat the process.

Clark is a guard; Griner is a post. They're not really competing for the same spot.

Yup. She doesn’t deserve starter minutes but the USA women will be blowing out teams to where she could play. Monumentally stupid and without a doubt due to petty jealousy

Traitor vs. American. You're right, they aren't the same.

Yet somehow she’s not good enough to get selected for Team USA?!

Jealousy is an ugly thing… and so are the bitches who left her off the team out of spite.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPhHEfrW...jpg&name=large

It's a rare breed that is so eager to look like an idiot.

Yeah... They're ****ing stupid. Instead of drawing the most eyeball ever to their sport the only thing people will be talking about is who's not there.

And spare us “they picked the best 12 players” bullshit.

Brittany Grinder’s selection refutes that claim.

Interesting comment

Too bad she didn't make the team. She's currently playing with a very young squad that are close to the bottom of the WNBA. I was hoping to see what her game looked like surrounded by the best.

The tiktok rabbit hole for this topic makes this place look like a bible study group.

Hey now I saw people saying "good she'd just be a distraction" and I couldn't agree more. Now I won't get distracted by women's olympic basketball over ANYTHING else I could watch”




that said the women's team is going to roll everyone regardless who is on the team

Brittany Grinder isn't even a woman. That's the minimum qualification or so I thought.