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BryanBusby 03-13-2023 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16853142)
Chiefs have met with a LOT of LT's before the draft so imo we can't rule out the possibility that Taylor playing LT could be a smokescreen before draft night. If they draft a talented LT on a rookie contract then the money would still work even if Taylor plays RT.

It will be interesting to see how many LT's chiefs bring in for a visit in the weeks ahead.
I don't think so. Andy just doesn't play rookies at LT.

They could look for someone to eventually slide over and play LT yes, but not today or tomorrow.

notorious 03-13-2023 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FANATIC (Post 16853181)
Agree but you cant do it when you are already paying top dollar at several other positions. PM deal is a good contract but it is still a huge cap hit. The NFL has a huge problem now with the cap and how salaries are structured. #1 The amount even average QBs get is way out of line as percentage of cap goes. #2 A team like the jack ass Raiders decide to completely over pay Adams and thus every receiver gets a huge raise going forward. This will not continue to be viable. You cant have a QB AVG 40 million and several other guys at 20 million plus. If you ad four players at 20 million, a QB at 40 million, you have over 50% of the cap going to 5 guys. Has to end somewhere. The idea that any left tackle is worth more to a team then Kelce is simple untrue. The sytem is broken.
The system isn't broken, a majority of GM's and owners are complete morons.

chiefzilla1501 03-13-2023 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FANATIC (Post 16853181)
Agree but you cant do it when you are already paying top dollar at several other positions. PM deal is a good contract but it is still a huge cap hit. The NFL has a huge problem now with the cap and how salaries are structured. #1 The amount even average QBs get is way out of line as percentage of cap goes. #2 A team like the jack ass Raiders decide to completely over pay Adams and thus every receiver gets a huge raise going forward. This will not continue to be viable. You cant have a QB AVG 40 million and several other guys at 20 million plus. If you ad four players at 20 million, a QB at 40 million, you have over 50% of the cap going to 5 guys. Has to end somewhere. The idea that any left tackle is worth more to a team then Kelce is simple untrue. The sytem is broken.
I’ve said before that the market will shift. We had unprecedented levels of QBs playing on “free” rookie contracts. Many of those guys are flat out getting paid this offseason. And that means they’ll ultimately have less to spend somewhere else. I think a lot of non qb positions will begin to see normalized salaries

jerryaldini 03-13-2023 04:34 PM
Great to hear they're confident he can play LT. Now they can use the savings to put toward Dhop or an edge.

FANATIC 03-13-2023 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16853187)
The system isn't broken, a majority of GM's and owners are complete morons.
Thus the system is broken. Its always the average salary at a position and setting the next level. Paying 5 guys 50% of the cap for a team with 53 guys is not a system that will work. KC current Jones, Thuney, Jackson and Mahomes are at or close or above 100 million. Not sustainable. The Chiefs do a great job drafting and getting some guys on the rookie contracts. How good would this team be with a 40 million QB not named Mahomes? Now you have some really excellent guys like Bolton coming up for new deals. How do you fit another couple of guys at 15-20-25 million? You dont. The real stars are now making way too much money. The spread is too much. Cant keep heading this direction. Changes in this formula will need to be made. They did it with rookie contracts and will need to figure out how to limit the top end.

tredadda 03-13-2023 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FANATIC (Post 16853181)
Agree but you cant do it when you are already paying top dollar at several other positions. PM deal is a good contract but it is still a huge cap hit. The NFL has a huge problem now with the cap and how salaries are structured. #1 The amount even average QBs get is way out of line as percentage of cap goes. #2 A team like the jack ass Raiders decide to completely over pay Adams and thus every receiver gets a huge raise going forward. This will not continue to be viable. You cant have a QB AVG 40 million and several other guys at 20 million plus. If you ad four players at 20 million, a QB at 40 million, you have over 50% of the cap going to 5 guys. Has to end somewhere. The idea that any left tackle is worth more to a team then Kelce is simple untrue. The sytem is broken.
It wasn’t the Adams deal that caused this overpaying of WRs, it was the Kirk one. It was the Jags who have a QB on a rookie contract that created this mess.

FANATIC 03-13-2023 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16853214)
It wasn’t the Adams deal that caused this overpaying of WRs, it was the Kirk one. It was the Jags who have a QB on a rookie contract that created this mess.
Agree and it is a mess.

Bowser 03-13-2023 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FANATIC (Post 16853206)
Thus the system is broken. Its always the average salary at a position and setting the next level. Paying 5 guys 50% of the cap for a team with 53 guys is not a system that will work. KC current Jones, Thuney, Jackson and Mahomes are at or close or above 100 million. Not sustainable. The Chiefs do a great job drafting and getting some guys on the rookie contracts. How good would this team be with a 40 million QB not named Mahomes? Now you have some really excellent guys like Bolton coming up for new deals. How do you fit another couple of guys at 15-20-25 million? You dont. The real stars are now making way too much money. The spread is too much. Cant keep heading this direction. Changes in this formula will need to be made. They did it with rookie contracts and will need to figure out how to limit the top end.
You're not taking into account how the cap is going to explode upwards the next few years.

tredadda 03-13-2023 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FANATIC (Post 16853206)
Thus the system is broken. Its always the average salary at a position and setting the next level. Paying 5 guys 50% of the cap for a team with 53 guys is not a system that will work. KC current Jones, Thuney, Jackson and Mahomes are at or close or above 100 million. Not sustainable. The Chiefs do a great job drafting and getting some guys on the rookie contracts. How good would this team be with a 40 million QB not named Mahomes? Now you have some really excellent guys like Bolton coming up for new deals. How do you fit another couple of guys at 15-20-25 million? You dont. The real stars are now making way too much money. The spread is too much. Cant keep heading this direction. Changes in this formula will need to be made. They did it with rookie contracts and will need to figure out how to limit the top end.
Jackson?

Thankfully nothing KC is going through is different than any team with an elite QB not on a rookie contract. Look at Buffalo right now as an example.

Gary Cooper 03-13-2023 04:44 PM
Maybe Mahomes will switch exclusively to left handed. So spending big on a RT makes sense.

ntexascardfan 03-13-2023 04:47 PM
I feel like we are trading back and taking Darnell Wright in the late thirties.

FANATIC 03-13-2023 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16853216)
You're not taking into account how the cap is going to explode upwards the next few years.
Yes I am. The cap explodes for every team. That does not fix the issue.

chiefzilla1501 03-13-2023 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16853216)
You're not taking into account how the cap is going to explode upwards the next few years.
Teams can afford it. Look how many years the saints built around a corpse. The packers failed because of lousy personnel decisions. Teams like the rams imploded because they don’t think it’s worth it to bandaid anymore. The panic over our cap is a bit much. Mahomes doesn’t stop us from bringing in players. The question will become if we want to reload/rebuild so we cycle between elite to good enough, or do we just want to be great for a long period of time.

notorious 03-13-2023 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16853240)
Teams can afford it. Look how many years the saints built around a corpse. The packers failed because of lousy personnel decisions. Teams like the rams imploded because they don’t think it’s worth it to bandaid anymore. The panic over our cap is a bit much. Mahomes doesn’t stop us from bringing in players. The question will become if we want to reload/rebuild so we cycle between elite to good enough, or do we just want to be great for a long period of time.
Can you imagine if the Chiefs had a GM like the Packers?

Waste a HOFer's career for the most part.......

chiefzilla1501 03-13-2023 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FANATIC (Post 16853239)
Yes I am. The cap explodes for every team. That does not fix the issue.
A big fix to the issue will be 5-6 QBs breaking the market, then inevitably chase and Justin Jefferson. It’s less about too many QBs getting paid vs not enough.


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