Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 15942603)

I think people are really overanalyzing this. I keep seeing claims that Mahomes is incapable of pocket passing or taking what's there. The reality is that we've seen plenty of both. Remember when everyone celebrated the masterful work done vs Buffalo in the AFCC? Hell, what about the first month of this season? He was doing a pretty solid job of taking what was there.

The fact that he makes a bad decision now and then and tries the bomb instead of the easy first down to Kelce doesn't mean that he's broken and "incapable." Everything on here is so extreme. When things are going well, he's a God who can do no wrong. Now he's broken and worthless.

Personally, I think that if yesterday's game were a playoff game, he would have taken the first down to Kelce. I think he expected to roll with Love at QB and decided to go for some highlight reel plays.

I also think that Mahomes tends to get complacent when the team has a lead or he's playing a weak opponent. Not that he isn't trying to make plays obviously, but he doesn't have the same level of urgency. I think it was telling that when they needed a drive at the end, he made it happen.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15943123)

I disagree. Not back to his usual self, but i thought he worked the pocket well at least. He wasn't yipy. He had a couple of misses but overall i thought he made some incremental steps to getting better.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15943177)

We only scored 13 points all night, too. And that's despite the fact that we had zero turnovers and had one drive set up at the GB 10 yard line.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15943177)

He did appear to be making a concerted effort to stay in the pocket. I will give him that.

Other than that he was making terrible reads, terrible decisions, shitty throws, and nearly threw a pick for the 7th straight game. I haven't checked the stats but I'd imagine his completion % was around 50% and YPA in the 4-5 range.

We only scored 13 points all night, too. And that's despite the fact that we had zero turnovers and had one drive set up at the GB 10 yard line.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15943182)

7th straight? He was playing well the first few weeks apart from pressing on a few third downs because our defense was complete shit. The major setback has been since Buffalo.

Originally Posted by EPodolak (Post 15943204)

I wish Pat would just swim downstream when possible. This account of his decision-making yesterday shows otherwise.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kc-chiefs...193011629.html

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15943210)

It’s the same rut that Alex Smith was in. Like it or not the Super Bowl really figured our offense out.

No reliable running game means you can just play cover 2 and 3 and take away Kelce and Hill and force us to rely on scrubs which isn’t working.

The offense was so much better when we had Kareem, Sammy and Conley. Our WR’s after Tyreek are absolute garbage.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15943210)

It’s the same rut that Alex Smith was in. Like it or not the Super Bowl really figured our offense out.

No reliable running game means you can just play cover 2 and 3 and take away Kelce and Hill and force us to rely on scrubs which isn’t working.

The offense was so much better when we had Kareem, Sammy and Conley. Our WR’s after Tyreek are absolute garbage.

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15943266)

The offense had Kelce wide open over the middle twice yesterday and Pat saw it but chose to "give the deep ball a chance".

Had he hit Kelce not only does the drive continue it might start opening up the deep ball.

Instead he wants to be stubborn and try to force shit for the sake of forcing it.

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15943266)

The offense had Kelce wide open over the middle twice yesterday and Pat saw it but chose to "give the deep ball a chance".

Had he hit Kelce not only does the drive continue it might start opening up the deep ball.

Instead he wants to be stubborn and try to force shit for the sake of forcing it.

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 15943272)

I don't mind the shots down field. The timing has been just a tick off.

I don't disagree that the safe play was to hit Kelce, but meh.