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duncan_idaho 01-03-2024 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17317331)
If shit goes bad in the playoffs for Buff I can see Diggs forcing his way out.. But we would likely have to fight the Cowboys for him..

I don't think the Chiefs would fight for him, given his age, and I don't think BUF would be willing to work with KC.

RunKC 01-03-2024 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17317239)
And there are Richie James every year.

I kinda feel the same about Tranquill but that's a different subject all together.

You can get depth WR's every year. Now whether our QB will trust them is a different thing I guess.

Talked to Duncan about Isaiah Simmons in the draft forum. 25 years old, former 1st rd pick, as athletic as any LB in the league. I think he should be cheap since he failed in Arizona and hasn't done a ton in NY.

5 INT's
19 PD's
8.5 sacks
8 FF's
15 TFL's

Impressive for first 4 years of work. I really want Spags to get this kid to replace Gay. I think he'd be awesome. He went to high school in Olathe.

Come on home big guy

O.city 01-03-2024 06:03 PM

Yeah Simmons would be a nice pickup

RealSNR 01-03-2024 06:08 PM

Chargers are in cap hell, right?

Isn't there a good possibility they outright cut Keenan Allen?

Would anybody want that bitch on our team?

OKchiefs 01-03-2024 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17317233)
News flash:

You can do this with every single team.

Sure, you try to add depth, but you don't overdo it, because you're only sacrificing a starting position somewhere else if you're investing THAT much into depth for another position.

I don’t really think I’m advocating for anything that would be considered overdoing it. Brown/Mooney/Ridley in FA and a 1st rd pick (2nd rd at the latest). Seems like a fairly reasonable investment at the position without going overboard.

ForeverIowan 01-03-2024 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17316460)
He's an incredible physical specimen.

So why did he do absolutely nothing for four entire years, before deciding to be Megatron in his fifth?

Various reasons as someone else summarized. If Xavier Legette runs under 4.4 like many suspect he will at the combine I think its a no brainer. Dont fricken over think it like ppl did with DK Metcalf and Riq Woolen. The guy is a physical freak. Rashee Rice paired with Xavier Legette and Andy Reids run and catch pass game would beat the crap out of opposing defensive backfields. Go get Hollywood Brown in free agency as your homerun hitter to take the top off and your receiving core is fixed.

duncan_idaho 01-03-2024 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17317492)
Chargers are in cap hell, right?

Isn't there a good possibility they outright cut Keenan Allen?

Would anybody want that bitch on our team?

He's still got chops. I'd take him. Not sure he fixes the way teams have been defending KC, but he's a good player, still.

Chris Meck 01-03-2024 06:53 PM

I think it's going to be Mooney and a 1st rounder, I really do. Possibly add a cheap older cat that wants to try for a ring.

and you guys are going to flip your shit all spring and summer.

But I think it'll work out.

duncan_idaho 01-03-2024 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17317529)
I think it's going to be Mooney and a 1st rounder, I really do. Possibly add a cheap older cat that wants to try for a ring.

and you guys are going to flip your shit all spring and summer.

But I think it'll work out.

I could live with, say, Mooeny + Keenan Allen after he's cut and a WR in the 1st. I think they may try to do a bit more than that, though.

staylor26 01-03-2024 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17317501)
I don’t really think I’m advocating for anything that would be considered overdoing it. Brown/Mooney/Ridley in FA and a 1st rd pick (2nd rd at the latest). Seems like a fairly reasonable investment at the position without going overboard.

Fair enough.

O.city 01-03-2024 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17317319)
Why would Dallas do that? They're going to give CeeDee whatever he wants and build around him.

Terry McLaurin is the best bet for a quality WR trade, IMO, and that would require him using his opt out after 24 as leverage to force a trade, and then KC backing up the truck for him once they get him and he demands a new deal or he still opts out (at which point you're better off trying to sign Mike Evans or Calvin Ridley, since they're all around the same age and would have the same yearly price tag).

Let's run through WRs who could be considered better or on par with the tier available in FA (Mike Evans, Calvin Ridley, Marquise Brown, Odell Beckham).

MIN - Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison. Addison is on a rookie deal and won't be traded. Jefferson COULD be, if they were blowing it up and starting over, but they seem a lot more likely to just try to reload and commit to him.

CIN - Jamar Chase, Tee Higgins. They're not going to trade Chase and I don't think they trade Higgins, either. They'll tag him and keep him, or trade him to the NFC. They certainly won't trade him to a team they're chasing in the AFC.

BUF - Diggs. Again, unlikely AF. They have no replacement for him, and wouldn't move him to KC.

NYJ - Garrett Wilson. Yeah, no. Not happening.

MIA - Hill, Waddle. THeir whole offense is built around these 2. More likely to trade Tua than either of them.

BAL - they won't move Zay Flowers on a rookie deal, obviously.

CLE - Cooper is their one good receiving weapon. I guess they could move him, but why?

PIT - Maybe they'd move Diontae Johnson, who has a year left on his deal.

TEN - Hopkins would be reasonable to add, but why would the Titans unload the one weapon they have for their young QB?

AFC West - let's not get silly The Raiders aren't going to trade Adams to KC< the LAC wouldn't trade one of their guys, and the Broncos wouldn't either.

SEA - They're competing and probably walking on Tyler Lockett. They won't move DK.

LAR - Kupp is getting up their in age, but their window is now. Unlikely.

ARZ - nothing to trade unless they tag Brown.

49ers - we've talked about Aiyuk a lot. They're going to want a ton for him if available, likely the type of price AJ Brown took.

TB - Godwin? But why.

NO - Olave? Yeah, no.

CAR - nothing to move.

WAS - Could move McLaurin, there are issues with it, he's going to want a new deal if it happens.

NYG - Nothing to move.

PHI - what, they're going to move Brown or Smith? Can't see it.

There just aren't a lot of trade fits. You don't have many guys holding their team hostage for a contract yet, you don't have teams entering a clear rebuild where they can move that WR.

Who woulda thought Tyreek would be available?

We just don’t know. Some of them will be available they always are

O.city 01-03-2024 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17317529)
I think it's going to be Mooney and a 1st rounder, I really do. Possibly add a cheap older cat that wants to try for a ring.

and you guys are going to flip your shit all spring and summer.

But I think it'll work out.

Time is a flat circle

Megatron96 01-03-2024 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17317529)
I think it's going to be Mooney and a 1st rounder, I really do. Possibly add a cheap older cat that wants to try for a ring.

and you guys are going to flip your shit all spring and summer.

But I think it'll work out.



Question: is there a LT available around where we'll probably pick in the 1st?

RunKC 01-03-2024 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17317529)
I think it's going to be Mooney and a 1st rounder, I really do. Possibly add a cheap older cat that wants to try for a ring.

and you guys are going to flip your shit all spring and summer.

But I think it'll work out.

I think that Mooney would be a nice complimentary player. Maybe could play the MVS role here with his 4.38 speed, but I still think they're gonna go after a big fish in FA.

Toney and Richie both played in our scheme in NY under Kafka and Jawaan played in our system under Dougie P in Jacksonville. Could see us go after Calvin Ridley and Darnell Mooney then look to the draft.

I'd be happy with that

Chris Meck 01-03-2024 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17317532)
I could live with, say, Mooeny + Keenan Allen after he's cut and a WR in the 1st. I think they may try to do a bit more than that, though.

Well, I know nobody wants to hear it, but I doubt they're going to cut Moore or Toney, despite the dumpster fire their seasons have been. MVS is gone for sure, and Watson is under contract and while he's no great prize, he's an okay #4 type. I'm pretty sure Moore and Toney are on the '24 team, it's not like this team to give up on young guys after one bad season.

I'm really not interested in arguing with anyone about whether that's a good idea or not; that point is moot and not what I'm arguing anyway. (not that YOU would, necessarily, just bracing for the 100 pages about how stupid I am for saying they're not likely to cut Moore and Toney as if I endorse it).

So I figure there are at most 3 spots, and likely 2 that need filled with improvements over the historically bad performance of the 2023 WR room (excepting Rice, of course.)


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