Oh don't tease me

I think it also demonstrates how much GMs in general like negotiating with unrepresented players. Seems like front offices would have little patience when getting in the weeds with people not accustomed to legalese and fine print. Then again, maybe they feel like they have a widower in a car dealership and are ready to present the Clear Coat option?

If one they love falls sure. I'd plug Niang in, sign an old vet as insurance, put the women and children in bed and go looking for dinner

They need more weapons now.

You'd have to check their pass-block win rates. I honestly have no idea.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This was soon-to-be <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> OT Jawaan Taylor describing his game after he got drafted in 2019: <a href="https://t.co/c9p2jHrwZR">pic.twitter.com/c9p2jHrwZR</a></p>&mdash; Jordan Foote (@footenoted) <a href="https://twitter.com/footenoted/status/1635361536675049473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't see them forcing the weapons thing, it happens it happens. I do expect them to try to add Hopkins.

Ever since we learned OBJ wouldn't be tagged the one thing that stood out to me that didn't make sense was the report the Chiefs weren't tagging him because they wanted a "long term solution". Now seeing this it makes me wonder if the Chiefs were actually so high on Taylor that they didn't want to miss this opportunity to sign him instead of OBJ.

They saw a guy that they thought was an even better fit than Brown at LT, but since he's only played RT, they could get him a little cheaper.

Well he's 25 and his physical profile is exactly what the Chiefs like in OTs.

Also, tagging OBJ and trying to trade him made signing Taylor impossible.

He clearly doesn't know what a swing tackle means. You get what he was trying to say though.

We were NEVER going to trade premium picks for the opportunity to extend Tunsil.

Yeah, that's pretty clear. The cap hit for the tag would be prohibitive.

And also Tunsil reportedly wants to “reset the market” with his next deal.

He should use the word flexible lol, Taylor is flexible enough that he can take either side which means if an OT they really like happens to slide like Broderick Jones you can just leave Taylor at RT and he won't throw a fit like Brown would have.

Well that isn't surprising though.

Will be curious about the structure and I assume his cap hit will be low this season so we can add more players. I think I saw we only had $14 million available.

I'm not so sure about that. If they were desperate they would have. They value LT that much.

I would not mind resetting the market for a truly elite LT.

Second most important position on this team besides QB.

Yep, or they could have a RT they really like in the draft and let him battle it out with Niang. Signing Taylor opens up all of their options.

I'm totally fine with them taking a RT in the 1st, but I really hope they focus on EDGE.

True but I wasn't assuming in the 1st. I think we have a good chance to take one in the top 100 picks though.

Best available of those positions seems like the best route. Could also throw WR in there depending on how this week goes.

My bad misread it. Blake Freeland, come on down!

Wonder if Tunsil was 1A and when they realized that Houston was asking too much....they pivoted to Taylor as their 1B.

Definitely possible, but they did this so quickly, I really don't think they wanted to pay Tunsil AND lose picks.

There was never a market and the Aaron Wilson ill-timed wrong tweet more or less reaffirmed things.

We have done these firesale rumors over and over with Houston and nothing happened. It's just click manufacturing. Tunsil was never 'available' like Cooks was never available.

BWANN!!!!

Clark probably slapped that down...I think he really wants to keep the pick

Probably a $1mm ish deal this year which would count under our $16+ mm avail cap space.

Wouldn’t surprise me if this is more like a 3 year / $50 mm cap hit with $10mm in dead money if we move on after the third year. Makes it more likely we bring in another OT in the draft and keep the flexibility of moving Jawaan back to RT if it becomes necessary.

Add DHop and Marvin Mims or Trey Palmer in the draft.

Watch Reid cook.

Not talking about a permanent swing tackle. I’m saying it buys you time to develop your own left tackle and if you like your options, you can swing Taylor back to RT. Worst case scenario you have a slightly overpriced but excellent RT

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Taylor vs. Maxx Crosby again (Crosby and Taylor had a good back-and-forth)<br><br>More of a flat set, inside shoulder protected with hips closed, opens hips up to push Crosby up arc, inside hand on Crosby&#39;s back, outside arm high, not a hold (rip move) <a href="https://t.co/SIRBSdzS1q">pic.twitter.com/SIRBSdzS1q</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1635365937615618048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's gonna be mazi Smith

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Taylor might not be the most powerful run blocker (lighter tackle) but I honestly don&#39;t think he&#39;s inept there. Reaches the 5-technique here, uses outside arm to widen him out of way<br><br>Likes to slingshot/throw guys upfield more but this rep was nice <a href="https://t.co/Js2tk18JH3">pic.twitter.com/Js2tk18JH3</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1635369878441046016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You don't want a turnstile by any means at that position, but Thuney, Humphrey, Smith are such a solid interior that won't be going anywhere for at least 2 years (probably more) that I'm confident we can make shit work as Taylor makes the transition.

I hope people remember when Fisher switched sides. Yeah, he was also a rookie, but it's not easy or even something you just master in a single offseason. We might have some growing pains. That doesn't mean that the Taylor move was bad by any means, because if he does grow out of them, we've got a damn good LT.

So, to recap:

+ We didn't use any draft picks to trade for Tunsil
+ Tunsil is 29, Taylor is 25
+ Tunsil wanted to reset the market, Taylor is playing LT on a (high) RT price tag
+ Our coaching staff has already helped a RT make the switch to LT full time, successfully.

When compared to OBJ, we got a younger, equally-if-not-better, less expensive player at LT for the next 4 years. Value, baby!

Sounds like Veach doing Veach things.

LMAO

Chiefs just gonna shut down all the AFCW pass rushers.

As big as OBJ was, it's not like he was some amazing run blocker.

Clay's boy isn't having a good day.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Orlando Brown surrendered more pressures in 2022 (58) than Jawaan Taylor did in 2021 and 2022 combined (55)<br><br>why would Lance use sacks, which we know are less predictive than pressures or win rate? Seems unserious. <a href="https://t.co/fafgTnxCjo">https://t.co/fafgTnxCjo</a></p>&mdash; Eric Eager ���� (@ericeager_) <a href="https://twitter.com/ericeager_/status/1635356074856546307?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

tried to tell him

I’d also add that Taylor got paid but has EVERY reason to stay hungry. He’s in line for another pay day in his late twenties. If he performs as a LT, then he’s gonna get major money.

Yeah, DT and DE are right there together.

James Palmer said on NFLN that talks really broke down when Veach tried to get a last minute deal done before the tag deadline but Orlando and his agent stood by their demands.

So Brett really told Orlando and his noob agent to get ****ed LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One part of Jawaan Taylor’s game that sticks out is his calm against inside moves. When defender’s attack his inside shoulder or try to setup a counter to it. He is cool, calm, collected and be adjust to ride it out. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/CJrwSr5LiV">pic.twitter.com/CJrwSr5LiV</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1635376958224891904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

OH NO WE'RE DOOMED!!11

This is how you imagine things?

How about if Veach thought OBJ was worth the money he was asking for, he would pay? Has it occurred to you that maybe OBJ is not that great at pass protection?

Agree. I wasn't an OBJ hater or truther, to me he was meh, but the difference in athleticism between Taylor and OBJ is impossible to ignore.

oh shit oh ****

ROFL

"ESPN Analytics"

not some PFF fluff piece ROFL

That defies bascially every other stat we've seen.

We can also draft a LT. You either do the Eric fisher approach and let him develop as a RT until he’s ready. Or you can get a 1 year bandaid to play RT until the Rookie LT is ready.

Of course its fantastic if Taylor winds up as a great LT. But I don’t think that means our next step is to fill RT instead of LT.

Wylie looks like a love child between Andy Reid and Andy Heck in that image.

Are you a negative bitch about everything? Don't answer that. We already know.

The sad part is it didn't have to be this way.

Hell, I think if OBJ kept his LAST agent instead of firing him, we would've had a deal done last year and not even bothered with the tag.

Waiting as long as he did and then hiring a guy whose only skill is "Refuse all offers until its our price!" was what he thought would get the job done. He legit believed we were in the desperate position and would eventually cave.

I liked OBJ, but I hope somebody takes that gay ass foxtail and throws it in his eye like Jeff Triplette throwing a flag into his dad's eye

Most media reporting that he will play left tackle. Complete and total trust in the FO. Go Brett go!!!

His market looks like shit too because it looks like the Bears aren't even going after him.

seems like a heck of a contract for a RT.

lmao that shit is stupid

I don't work for ESPN dumbass

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:facepalm:

Obviously. ESPN sucks but they don't suck THAT much.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brett Veach is a DAWWWGGG <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PMSLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PMSLive</a> <a href="https://t.co/x4ltjik8z7">pic.twitter.com/x4ltjik8z7</a></p>&mdash; Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1635345116272402438?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What has Jason Kelce announced on Twitter?

He's coming back another year.

Thanks

I pray to God he goes Cincy.

i wonder if Orlando Brown is calling his friend with diabetes that he hired as his agent saying yo what's shakin where we at who is interested where am I playing and his friend makes a bunch of foley noises that sounds like papers getting crumpled and faxes getting sent and he's like oh man Orlando we're busy over here! LOTS of moving parts! *squeezes clown horn* *spins rattle* *hits triangle* oh man there's my batphone gotta go talk to some general managers for the national football league!

How many snaps at LT does he have in the NFL?
He was the starting RT for the Jaguars. It sure seems that we are just repeating the same thing with Brown, and now with Taylor.
I sure hope it works out like any other fan but I am just stating the truth about what he has done in the NFL.

I hope this helps people who are going to be Chiefs FA's in the future understand Veach does not give a ****...

If you want the bag, there is a way to go about getting it in KC. And ****ing around, is not how you do it.

bring back frank to rip around orlando 20 times a game against cincy and break every postseason sack record ROFL

Whenever Chris Jones time is done they'll be able to pay someone else but if like Nick Bolton or Snead come in wanting 20+ million dollars they're gonna be out.

Snead is already gone in my mind.

Who is this Snead feller I keep reading about. Is he competition for L’Jarius Sneed?

Never heard of him did Bert Fleece draft him?

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