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mcaj22 03-20-2014 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10503825)
Rishaw Johnson vs. Jeff Linkenbach for RG
Sanders Commings vs. Husain Abdullah for FS
Tyler Bray vs. Chase Daniel for QB2

slop vs shit for the other MLB spot next to DJ

chiefzilla1501 03-20-2014 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by laz (Post 10504397)
8-8 is our goal ... w00t!!!

Yeah. Because a few free agent moves turns this team Into a Super Bowl contender therefore we should mortgage everything to win in two years.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10504398)
We let Albert walk because we lost him for a few games and saw no drop-off. The other guys were low positional value players. Even if we don't add a single new free agent or draft pick, we aren't going to see much drop off.

Jfc. It's not like we are shipping off jamaal Charles.

excuses and rationalizations

it's simple math, we still ended up -5 for starters in FA

we have significantly less talent now than we had at the end of last season

Messier 03-20-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504390)
giving young players a chance is not the thing

during FA we ran a -5 nfl starters

We lost that talent, even if we do promote backups we still lost -5 in depth of total talent.

It's not like we lost a starter at one specific position to let a young guy play but added a starter somewhere else. Let Albert walk because we have a young guy ready ... fine. Take that money and put it to another position.

No ... we just let them all walk.

Even if we have the best draft in the history of drafts we are going to be hard pressed to do more than break even after losing 5 starters. We only have 6 draft picks so even if EVERY PICK is good we still end up with a +1.

rebuilding

Two play the same position, McCluster and Jackson? Boo Hoo.

Rausch 03-20-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10504308)
Asamoah and Schwartz didn't start together, they played the same position.

And that NEVER should have been the case.

Allen should have been carrying gatoraid and Asamoah and Schwartz should have been in there (until big John went down with injury.)

Messier 03-20-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504367)
it's not even about the Oline imo

It's about the entire 'feel' of the offseason


long and slow approach to running the team

we just traded two 2nd round draft picks for a QB just to maintain an average team while we rebuild. :banghead:


I will agree, this FA period has sucked. I'd love to sign some known players, it'd make me feel much better.

Still being upset with the Smith trade, I don't get. It's like you guys would rather stink with a rookie QB, as long as he was a high draft pick. I don't want to be the Jets right now, thinking about bringing in Vick.

chiefzilla1501 03-20-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504411)
excuses and rationalizations

it's simple math, we still ended up -5 for starters in FA

we have significantly less talent now than we had at the end of last season

Except that Tyson Jackson and Joe Mays are equal replacements. Alberts loss socks but Stephenson did fine in plenty of snaps. We are talking about a ****ing guard and a slot receiver. Oh lordy lordy Lord God help us.

And this again assumes that we no other current roster players step up, we draft no starters, and add no more free agent starters.

Messier 03-20-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10504414)
And that NEVER should have been the case.

Allen should have been carrying gatoraid and Asamoah and Schwartz should have been in there (until big John went down with injury.)

Asamoah was not playing well.

nychief 03-20-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10504426)
I'd love to sign some known players, it'd make me feel much better.

This is what is wrong with this board... we sign emmanual ****ing broke foot sanders, suddenly the off season is not so bad...

Same thing with the draft EVERY YEAR... unless joe bob chiefs fan has heard of the player we drafted... IT'S A TERRIBLE PICK....

It gets tiresome.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10504427)
Except that Tyson Jackson and Joe Mays are equal replacements. Alberts loss socks but Stephenson did fine in plenty of snaps. We are talking about a ****ing guard and a slot receiver. Oh lordy lordy Lord God help us.

And this again assumes that we no other current roster players step up, we draft no starters, and add no more free agent starters.

jackson and Mays are not even close to being the equal


and even if players step up we still LOST to our total talent pool because promoting those players will shrink our depth

once you lose a chance to improve your team in any phase you can't get it back, it's gone.

rebuilding while still looking 'pretty' just means a longer rebuild time

Rausch 03-20-2014 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10504429)
Asamoah was not playing well.

I understand this.

He was injured and then out.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10504456)
I understand this.

He was injured and then out.

and in a different scheme at all our Olineman were struggling with

As soon as we switched back to ZBS everyone seemed to play better. Assuming that Asamoah would have improved as well is not a stretch. imo.

TEX 03-20-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504455)
jackson and Mays are not even close to being the equal


and even if players step up we still LOST to our total talent pool because promoting those players will shrink our depth

once you lose a chance to improve your team in any phase you can't get it back, it's gone.

rebuilding while still looking 'pretty' just means a longer rebuild time

A point that always seems to be lost...You don't improve if what you add only gets you to the same place that you were...

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10504463)
A point that always seems to be lost...You don't improve if what you add only gets you to the same place that you were...

and we didn't even do that

whether it's starters or depth, we clearly lost a significant amount of talent during FA

TEX 03-20-2014 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10504414)
And that NEVER should have been the case.

Allen should have been carrying gatoraid and Asamoah and Schwartz should have been in there (until big John went down with injury.)

That's exactly the case. Nobody is saying anything about it but Allen was easily the worst O-lineman the Chiefs had last season. Dude flat out sucked. I don't really think we can expect much improvement out of him with changing the dynamics around him.


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