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TEX 03-20-2014 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504464)
and we didn't even do that

whether it's starters or depth, we clearly lost a significant amount of talent during FA

Oh yeah, I agree. I was just stating that it's not going to be an improvement if when it's all over we just managed to sign what we lost because that would only get us to where we were. Even IF that ends up being the case, you still have to hope the new guys can come in, learn a new system and play at the same level as the guys they replaced. Not likely.

Shit, now I'm all pissed off AGAIN. Gotta take a break for a bit...

mcaj22 03-20-2014 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10504381)
Because this team was poised to be a super bowl winner if they spent money? They are rebuilding while staying legitimately competitive. Anyone who thinks this team is doomed to be a lot worse than last year is overreacting.

seeing as how they won't have the luxury of playing Thad Lewis, Jason Campbell, Case ****ing Keenum, and whatever other 3rd string slop QBs they got to beat on last year, while they won't be "doomed" they will have to face real QBs and some of them with real defenses this time around.

chiefzilla1501 03-20-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10504524)
seeing as how they won't have the luxury of playing Thad Lewis, Jason Campbell, Case ****ing Keenum, and whatever other 3rd string slop QBs they got to beat on last year, while they won't be "doomed" they will have to face real QBs and some of them with real defenses this time around.

I knew you were full of shit. Didn't you give me grief recently over many posts that this team wasn't far away from super bowl contention and should be loading up in free agency?

So which side are you on? Or are you going to find whatever angle breathes pessimism.

BlackHelicopters 03-20-2014 04:21 PM

Thanks KCStar.

chiefzilla1501 03-20-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10504463)
A point that always seems to be lost...You don't improve if what you add only gets you to the same place that you were...

You also get false improvement if you have to buy those improvements. For as much criticism as there has been, it hasn't had a track record of success. If you want to load up around an elite QB or stacked team... Sure.

You are making the assumption that the chiefs stay the same because they didn't add anybody.

Direckshun 03-20-2014 04:57 PM

This offseason, let the record show, former Chiefs have been paid more than one hundred million dollars more than new Chiefs have been signed to.

Holy wow.

saphojunkie 03-20-2014 05:14 PM

You know what would be stupid? Paying 100 million to stay an 11-6 team or worse. That's what resigning those guys would have been. You get better through the draft. Always have, always will.

Barring signing/trading for a franchise qb.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10504899)
You know what would be stupid? Paying 100 million to stay an 11-6 team or worse. That's what resigning those guys would have been. You get better through the draft. Always have, always will.

Barring signing/trading for a franchise qb.

we didn't have to keep the same players


We just lost a bunch and didn't replace them with anything.

Tribal Warfare 03-20-2014 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Douchebag (Post 10503915)
QB1 2016.

GOD MODE awaits!!!!!!!!!

Mother****erJones 03-20-2014 07:22 PM

I'm all for this. **** paying big money to lineman unless they're superb.

Put money in the playmakes. Re-sign Houston and Berry.

BigCatDaddy 03-20-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10505094)
we didn't have to keep the same players


We just lost a bunch and didn't replace them with anything.

Who was the big loss?

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10505115)
Who was the big loss?

we lost 5 nfl starters worth of talent to this roster ... period.

you can try and talk about how we already have replacements etc but the talent is still gone. You move backup up to starters to replace the losses and now you still have 5 holes in depth guys.

So you say we will draft better guys and end up better? No, not really because if we had replace the lost players in FA we still could have still drafted 'better guys' and ended up with the FA guys + the draft guys and been much improved.

Not only that but we are also more locked in to draft certain positions because we created more holes in FA. Now we have to draft 5 guy to specifically replace the FA losses which means we won't be getting better, just staying stagnant.

6 draft picks to replace 5 holes

Shogun 03-20-2014 08:01 PM

Johnson. Real tough worker. Lunch pail to work every day type of guy. Just puts one foot in front of the other. Competitive.

Easy 6 03-20-2014 08:04 PM

Fine, I will.

Mother****erJones 03-20-2014 08:06 PM

Glad we didn't pay 100 mil to all those guys. All replaceable and money go towards skill positions


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