Chiefs have met with a LOT of LT's before the draft so imo we can't rule out the possibility that Taylor playing LT could be a smokescreen before draft night. If they draft a talented LT on a rookie contract then the money would still work even if Taylor plays RT.

It will be interesting to see how many LT's chiefs bring in for a visit in the weeks ahead.

Andy’s always been a big dude.

Plenty of overweight people with decent physical fitness.

I was thinking rings :D

I hear you man. But in every interview he gives, Andy is breathing like he just ran a marathon.

I don’t think it’s a stretch to say he’s a bit out of shape.

Plus Andy has a balanced diet. Plenty of lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, dairy and protein.

Could still trade for Tunsil. It'd give us the best O line in the league.

Taylor is just good enough we could sell him as a fill in LT and not expensive enough to be pissed if he's a RT. And he'd be a solid RT.

This move gives Veach options. Could still trade for Tunsil or make a move for a LT in the draft if one he likes is within range. Hell, he could draft a RT as well for that matter.

That's what Belichick did for Brady. Gave him a great OL, great defense, and mostly JAG weapons. Worked extremely well for them. Protecting the QB from injury is more important than giving him the best weapons.

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Difference with him is that he’s not throwing a fit to play LT. so a trade or draft of a LT is still on the table.

It’s really the only proven way to stay competitive every year and also stay below the cap with an elite QB.

If he does end up playing RT, I don't mind having a good one there. It's not like there aren't many good to great pass rushers playing mostly on that side. Chiefs can still draft one or maybe trade for LT. Or maybe Taylor makes the switch to LT.

We'll have to wait and find out!

Jesus, they aren't doing that

Slim your right but not impossible

Awful high money for a RT. Sure, the better RTs are between 18 and 19.5 now but it's a lot to pay if you don't have a rookie contract LT. I think the only teams that have a similar situation are the Broncos and Eagles and they are paying relatively modestly at LT at 17 and 16 million, which puts combined AAV around 33-34. If you do Tunsil, you probably have a combined AAV of around 44m. That's a lot man.

I certainly like the idea because I'm just not that overly keen on Taylor at LT. If that's the true plan, man, call me cautiously optimistic. I like Taylor as a RT and his ascension has been good. My biggest worry was if he has been keeping his weight issues firmly under control, which he definitely seems to be doing so that's great. Taking a career RT and pushing him to LT is a new worry though. Not so sure about that dynamic. There's a lot more to it than just swapping sides. If Reid feels confident in that, then I have to trust it.

Agree but you cant do it when you are already paying top dollar at several other positions. PM deal is a good contract but it is still a huge cap hit. The NFL has a huge problem now with the cap and how salaries are structured. #1 The amount even average QBs get is way out of line as percentage of cap goes. #2 A team like the jack ass Raiders decide to completely over pay Adams and thus every receiver gets a huge raise going forward. This will not continue to be viable. You cant have a QB AVG 40 million and several other guys at 20 million plus. If you ad four players at 20 million, a QB at 40 million, you have over 50% of the cap going to 5 guys. Has to end somewhere. The idea that any left tackle is worth more to a team then Kelce is simple untrue. The sytem is broken.

I don't think so. Andy just doesn't play rookies at LT.

They could look for someone to eventually slide over and play LT yes, but not today or tomorrow.

The system isn't broken, a majority of GM's and owners are complete morons.

I’ve said before that the market will shift. We had unprecedented levels of QBs playing on “free” rookie contracts. Many of those guys are flat out getting paid this offseason. And that means they’ll ultimately have less to spend somewhere else. I think a lot of non qb positions will begin to see normalized salaries

Great to hear they're confident he can play LT. Now they can use the savings to put toward Dhop or an edge.

Thus the system is broken. Its always the average salary at a position and setting the next level. Paying 5 guys 50% of the cap for a team with 53 guys is not a system that will work. KC current Jones, Thuney, Jackson and Mahomes are at or close or above 100 million. Not sustainable. The Chiefs do a great job drafting and getting some guys on the rookie contracts. How good would this team be with a 40 million QB not named Mahomes? Now you have some really excellent guys like Bolton coming up for new deals. How do you fit another couple of guys at 15-20-25 million? You dont. The real stars are now making way too much money. The spread is too much. Cant keep heading this direction. Changes in this formula will need to be made. They did it with rookie contracts and will need to figure out how to limit the top end.

It wasn’t the Adams deal that caused this overpaying of WRs, it was the Kirk one. It was the Jags who have a QB on a rookie contract that created this mess.

Agree and it is a mess.

You're not taking into account how the cap is going to explode upwards the next few years.

Jackson?

Thankfully nothing KC is going through is different than any team with an elite QB not on a rookie contract. Look at Buffalo right now as an example.

Maybe Mahomes will switch exclusively to left handed. So spending big on a RT makes sense.

I feel like we are trading back and taking Darnell Wright in the late thirties.

Yes I am. The cap explodes for every team. That does not fix the issue.

Teams can afford it. Look how many years the saints built around a corpse. The packers failed because of lousy personnel decisions. Teams like the rams imploded because they don’t think it’s worth it to bandaid anymore. The panic over our cap is a bit much. Mahomes doesn’t stop us from bringing in players. The question will become if we want to reload/rebuild so we cycle between elite to good enough, or do we just want to be great for a long period of time.

Can you imagine if the Chiefs had a GM like the Packers?

Waste a HOFer's career for the most part.......

A big fix to the issue will be 5-6 QBs breaking the market, then inevitably chase and Justin Jefferson. It’s less about too many QBs getting paid vs not enough.

According to Clay's crack team of reporters they are going after Tunsil and OBJ. Both OBJs in fact.

Sorry, reporters on crack is what I mean

Sorry meant Taylor. The QB contracts is just one of the issues. Its across the board. The "STARS" are getting too much of the cap percentage. At some point a cap need to needs put on max salary. Will it happen? Not likely. Something will need to change.

The way it's set up now is going to benefit the Chiefs for a loooong time.

I don't want it to change.

Usually those contracts are by teams who aren’t spending much on their QB or they are just stupid with their cap space.

IF KC continues to draft really well, find the Pachekos not the CEHs , and get comp picks things will be wonderful. The draft has been a windfall the last 2 years. Chiefs have also been somewhat blessed with few major injuries. ONWARD

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Yeah, we're clean out of the Tunsil sweepstakes

This dudes making way too much to play RT

Yes and thats the point. It is the problem. It still creates crazy compensation at the top end. Doesnt matter why or who. Those salaries become the basis. This topic probably belongs in a different thread so I will discontinue my input.

1.08 million cap hit in 2023?

Yeah, another move is coming.

Cap people, what does this mean? Does this mean he counts as 1.08M against the cap this season? Or does that 18.9 signing bonus go against the cap?

Either a splash free agent or a Jones re-structure. I'm here for all of it.

You are not adding the signing bonus of around $4.725 million. It is still a low number though.

The latter

I think a Jones restructure will actually free up more space this year. It'll hopefully be both.

ROFL Why would they put that $20k workout bonus in there? That's like someone who makes $50k per year asking for a $50 bonus for showing up to the training program. I mean...sure...it's not nothing. It just seems like there are bigger issues to prioritize.

With OTC and Spotrac showing us at about $15M in cap space before today we don't have much of anything left figuring $6M for this year of Taylor new deal and the rookie pool is roughly the same amount we don't have but may $3M in space without extending Jones and lowering his number this year.

CAP PEOPLE. I DEMAND ANSWERS. How much are we spending on him this year?

But it's paid in unmarked 20's and 50's

CJ will probably be restructured, maybe Kelce and MVS as well, and if that happens, splash FA WR.

I believe his cap hit is roughly around $5 million this year.

It means that he'll have cap hits of 5.825 in 2023 and 24.725 in each of the remaining 3 years.

It's broken as

1.08/4.725/0.2 = 5.825 for 2023
19.50/4.725/0.5 = 24.725 for the 3 thereafater

If the guarantees are as they originally stated, that means his salaries in each of the 1st 3 years are guaranteed and the total GAS is 58.98m.

I'm pretty sure it's 1.08 plus a quarter of the signing bomus, so like 6 mil total this year

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I don't want you to feel ignored with this important question, so I'll say ~5mil or so.




*I am not a Cap People

With the Jones tweet it may be has has agreed to an extended contract and thus a cap reduction for this year. I sure hope he is extended.

Was drunk.

Now barely coherent.

Imma eat some food and get pussy. Today is a good day.

ROFL

Enjoy buddy!

Can i send you videos of cartel members lighting people's faces on fire while they're alive?

You know, just to add an edge to your vacay..../wink

He'll be extended, at some point. Veach pretty much said as much I think right before the Combine. CJ isn't going anywhere. But we do need him to restructure so Veach can go after a FA WR, and fill out the DL a touch.

I think in a couple of years, his contract will look pretty good....even with a cap hit of $24.5 million in those later years.

Oh yeah!! Just this micro shot that Clay gave us I can see he already has quicker agile feet than OBJ.:clap:

I think you meant "eat some pussy and get some food." Just here to help.LMAO

"You told me I wasn't getting cunnilingus at the pool because I dropped a pass and someone laughed!!"

I don't remember that but it sounds like something i would say.

So we'll put the pussy expectations on hold for now. I may have some work to do...

ROFL

Yeah but can he dunk?

I like it. He shouldn't be any worse than Orlando and making decent but not top money. Great move.

Love,love,love the agility and athleticism:clap: Good clip Franchise!!

Good post King!

Cap hit looks like $5-6 million. Translation:

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His contract is up on OTC.


Cap hits are:

2023 - $5.825
2024 - $24.725
2025 - $24.725
2026 - $24.725

LMAO

It's definitely a year-1 cap figure that could absorb Hopkins' current salary.


:bolt:

Of course you wouldn't, but we will! That Mahomes quote virtually guarantees it's incoming, watch for it by Thursday!

Can he perform cunnilingus by the pool is a more pressing question.

While catching a football.:hmmm:

:thumb:

Yeah, ok, buddy. Sure thing!

If they're going to do anything, it'll be a veteran pass rusher. Outside possibility RT-but if it's a RT, it'll be under $10m per.

Until the SVB fallout I wasn't buying the Tunsil rumor. We will know a lot more on Wednesday when Powell speaks. I don't think climate change is a factor here, but if Powell can't calm the markets Tunsil and Dhop probably both get done Thursday
Thanks for all your excellent postings today, they are the best thing this thread has going.

FYP;)

Jawaan Taylor is now my favorite NFL left tackle!!!

It's just science, really

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