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Coogs 07-12-2024 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17581215)
Allowing players to gamble is a mobster's dream come true. All they need is one guy to lose a little too much and get desperate. They don't even offer the guy money. They offer to forgive all of his debt. All he has to do is shave points in a game for them and he's out of debt.

Henry Hill (Goodfellas fame) was involved in a point-shaving scandal with Boston College men's basketball. Henry said all they have to do is get you to shave points once, and they own you. After that they'll demand you shave points in every single game you play. If you won't play along, they'll let it go public that you participated in a point shaving scandal. So the players go along with it and it just gets worse and worse.

The league knows this is how it works and they'll make an example of anyone that violates the rule. The point is not to get the player to never do it again, but to put the fear of God into all of the other players.
So you're saying Kadarius Toney is debt free? :hmmm::eek:

I kid! I kid!

RedinTexas 07-12-2024 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17581326)
No, the point is to make you think it never happens. That's not how human nature works though.

You slept with a convict at the prison it was a felony and you picked up a sex crime. That's not one you want.
Didn't stop us from walking out 2 people a month for it. Two a month. And that's just the people that got caught. Of course it happens. Everything happens...
I agree that the NFL wants us to think it never happens, but ultimately, what they want is for it never to happen. So, I would disagree, but only in the order of what it is they want. Good point though.

Couch-Potato 07-12-2024 08:39 AM
So... what's the latest with his suspension? Timeline to decision?

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 07-12-2024 09:05 AM
No one knows.

And, I doubt anyone is going to know anytime soon, so my personal take is going to be "sit back, relax, and realize I have absolutely no control over anything going on". What will happen will happen, regardless of my personal feelings/opinions on the matter.

But, that's not going to stop the rampant pronouncements of eminent doom from some and gloating from others.

So, the merry-go-round continues . . .

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17581436)
So... what's the latest with his suspension? Timeline to decision?

Marcellus 07-12-2024 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17580425)
I'm quite aware of the reasoning, I wasn't born yesterday. I'm saying it's faulty reasoning and there are plenty of people saying actually, it's pretty freaking disingenuous to be out here promoting DraftKings every chance you get and then acting morally outraged when NFL players make a bet. Again, monitor them. They can't bet on games they're in. Fine. He didn't do that.

I think that whole narrative will have changed in five years and we'll look back at Calvin Ridley's ban as even more of an embarrassment.
Look this is not difficult. There is no hypocrisy or conflict with the NFL promoting DraftKings etc....and banning players from betting. Its freaking common sense and the concept isn't unique.

When any company does some kind of raffle or giveaway, lets say a Radio station for example, employees of the station and their family members are barred from entering the contest? Why? Its clear as to why and nobody bitches about that do they?

The whole narrative is stupid. Oh my God players cant gamble!

So what? If they want to gamble so bad they can stop playing in the NFL. People act like its a constitutional right or something.

staylor26 07-12-2024 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17581479)
Look this is not difficult. There is no hypocrisy or conflict with the NFL promoting DraftKings etc....and banning players from betting. Its freaking common sense and the concept isn't unique.

When any company does some kind of raffle or giveaway, lets say a Radio station for example, employees of the station and their family members are barred from entering the contest? Why? Its clear as to why and nobody bitches about that do they?

The whole narrative is stupid. Oh my God players cant gamble!

So what? If they want to gamble so bad they can stop playing in the NFL. People act like its a constitutional right or something.
Spot on.

Kiimo 07-12-2024 10:27 AM
This board loves to argue why things simply can't change. And yet they do change, unfailingly.


https://www.reuters.com/sports/nfl/p...ds-2024-02-08/

staylor26 07-12-2024 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17581526)
This board loves to argue why things simply can't change. And yet they do change, unfailingly.


https://www.reuters.com/sports/nfl/p...ds-2024-02-08/
It's really amazing how difficult this is for you. Who has a problem with these specific changes? Because changes were alread made we should just have zero restrictions?

Kiimo 07-12-2024 10:52 AM
Did I say we should have zero restrictions?

staylor26 07-12-2024 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17581558)
Did I say we should have zero restrictions?
So we agree that there should be restrictions and that just because there's been change "unfailingly" doesn't mean that we should have endless change?

NFL players shouldn't be betting on NFL games. As long as they aren't doing that, zero issue with it, but you can't have that conflict of interest.

Marcellus 07-12-2024 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17581558)
Did I say we should have zero restrictions?
What exceptions should we keep? People were complaining about Calvin Ridley getting suspended for betting on the NFL, should players be able to bet on the NFL?

staylor26 07-12-2024 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17581608)
What exceptions should we keep? People were complaining about Calvin Ridley getting suspended for betting on the NFL, should players be able to bet on the NFL?
Considering he's the one that brought Ridley up, I'm pretty sure his answer would be yes.

saphojunkie 07-12-2024 11:53 AM
this thread is a high speed crash

Marcellus 07-12-2024 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17581615)
Considering he's the one that brought Ridley up, I'm pretty sure his answer would be yes.
Which would be epically dumb and will never happen. Players have too many connections with other players, trainers, coaches etc...around the league to allow it even if not betting on their own team. Its like having insider information.

Not going to happen nor should it. I don't care f they bet on baseball, basketball, whatever but not NFL football and probably not college for the same reasons.

Hoover 07-12-2024 12:56 PM
I'm leaning to him playing the entire year with this cloud hanging over him. We win our third super bowl and then he gets suspended for the first two games of 2025.


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