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Direckshun 03-20-2014 09:01 AM

Keep ****ing doubting Rishaw Johnson.
 
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/3...-johnson-guard

Kansas City Chiefs G Rishaw Johnson impressed late last season
By Joel Thorman
on Mar 19 2014, 8:44a

Regular readers may have noticed that we recently posted an item on Chiefs safety Sanders Commings and whether he could end up being the answer at free safety. Right here we have another post wondering if an in-house player is the answer at a position of need.

The position is guard and the player is Rishaw Johnson.

As a refresher, Johnson was an SEC recruit at Ole Miss in 2008. He was there until 2010 when he was kicked off the team. He then went to California (PA). He joined the Seahawks in his first season in the NFL then came to Kansas City his second year. The league lists him at 6'3 and 313 pounds. Last year's starting guards are listed at 340 pounds (Geoff Scwhartz), 306 pounds (Jon Asamoah) and 305 pounds (Jon Asamoah).

Matt Conner included Johnson in our in-house players series earlier this year but I came across a couple more of items on Johnson that warrants another look-see.

Last week, I saw this from Lance Zierlein, sports talk radio host in Houston and football writer:

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Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein

@bkissel7 @Schottey Chiefs believe Rishaw is ready to take over. They LOVED how he played vs. SD at end of the year.
Johnson was among the Chiefs backups that played in Week 17 against the Chargers while the starters rested but a backup throughout the season. That caught my interest for obvious reasons being free agency week and all. If the Chiefs believe they possibly / maybe / could have a potential starting guard on the roster, they probably wouldn't go out and spend big money on a guard in free agency, right?

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Terez A. Paylor @TerezPaylor

This is true. Did well vs SD RT @ArrowheadPride: Seems like a long shot but Chiefs do have an in-house option at OG http://sbn.to/1jxEmMw
But wait! There's more!

Schwartz, who is now with the Giants in New York, went on The Drive with Danny Parkins on 610 Sports on Tuesday. Danny asked him what the Chiefs have in the guys who were behind him on the Chiefs line last season.

"Rishaw played really well in the Chargers game," Schwartz said. "He's a guy that has a lot of talent and he really developed as the year went on. He's strong and explosive off the ball. Sometimes it takes guys a couple of years to get comfortable where they're playing in a game. He did a great job against the Chargers."

Another mention of the Chargers game ... interesting. This led me to asking Chiefs GM John Dorsey on our call yesterday how important that Week 17 game was for the coaching staff and front office, getting the youngsters a shot to play.

"Anytime you can get another opportunity to evaluate the players that don't get to contribute on a week-in, week-out basis, that's very helpful," Dorsey said. "What it does is it helps the coaching staff get a degree of comfort that those guys in the personnel department as they build this thing. That's what the communication between the coaches and the personnel staff does. It's always an advantage to get those guys to play and those guys showed very well on Week 17 of the NFL schedule."

Unfortunately, Dorsey wasn't giving us an in-depth scouting report on Johnson but he did say this: "He's going to come in here and he's going to compete. He's showed that he can play the game of football, and I'm just excited to see how much stride he has made here this year."

It's a long way to the season opener with more free agency and the 2014 NFL Draft to acquire more talent as well as evaluation opportunities such as OTAs and training camp to evaluate existing talent. Rishaw Johnson is one of those existing talents that is one to keep an eye on.

It's almost like the Sanders Commings situation. You have hopes that this guy can come in and take over the job next year. But he's probably too young and inexperienced to hand the job to him. Competition and veteran insurance (Jeff Linkenbach?) is needed.

My gut has been telling me for a while that the Chiefs first round pick will be an offensive lineman. That would obviously shake things up.

Simply Red 03-20-2014 09:02 AM

I don't know who this is - but you go boy!

Direckshun 03-20-2014 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10503786)
I don't know who this is - but you go boy!

Rishaw Johnson ‏@BigRee75 Mar 19

Humility

Strongside 03-20-2014 09:04 AM

GAME CHANGER. DARK HORSE. BALL BREAKER. BONE CRUSHER. SKULL SMASHER. DICK KICKER. SHIT STOMPER. BLACK KNIGHT.

STONE. COLD. KILLER.

-Rishaw Johnson has been called a lot of things. Starter isn't one of them.

Direckshun 03-20-2014 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10503790)
GAME CHANGER. DARK HORSE. BALL BREAKER. BONE CRUSHER. SKULL SMASHER. DICK KICKER. SHIT STOMPER. BLACK KNIGHT.

STONE. COLD. KILLER.

-Rishaw Johnson has been called a lot of things. Starter isn't one of them.

Rishaw Johnson ‏@BigRee75 Mar 11

So Ambitious

Steron 03-20-2014 09:08 AM

Why do I always read it Rickshaw?

loochy 03-20-2014 09:09 AM

I thought it was DaBrickashaw Johnson

RealSNR 03-20-2014 09:12 AM

So basically nothing new at all. All I'm getting out of this thing is "He played well in the Chargers game."

Yeah, I know. I saw the game, too, Joel. What else ya got?

Reerun_KC 03-20-2014 09:13 AM

Why do I not give a shit about true fan fluff articles?

The Franchise 03-20-2014 09:19 AM

Rishaw Johnson vs. Jeff Linkenbach for RG
Sanders Commings vs. Husain Abdullah for FS
Tyler Bray vs. Chase Daniel for QB2

mlyonsd 03-20-2014 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steron (Post 10503801)
Why do I always read it Rickshaw?

Same here.

Jimmya 03-20-2014 09:21 AM

Need all the help they can get.

loochy 03-20-2014 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10503814)
Why do I not give a shit about true fan fluff articles?

BECAUSE YOU DONT LOVE THE CHIEFS

Reerun_KC 03-20-2014 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10503829)
Need all the help they can get.

Then go out and get some... Stop blow smoke up our asses with garbage players and articles.

Reerun_KC 03-20-2014 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10503831)
BECAUSE YOU DONT LOVE THE CHIEFS

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1342...a-sneeze-o.gif

FloridaMan88 03-20-2014 09:31 AM

I'd rather have Richie Incognito if he's available.

That might ruffle the "we only want nice people on the Chiefs" segment of this board.

Direckshun 03-20-2014 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10503851)
I'd rather have Richie Incognito if he's available.

That might ruffle the "we only want nice people on the Chiefs" segment of this board.

Wellllllllll that segment of the board can take a backseat until Reid leaves.

MIAdragon 03-20-2014 09:36 AM

Dorsey speak is becoming nauseating.

Dunerdr 03-20-2014 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10503825)
Rishaw Johnson vs. Jeff Linkenbach for RG
Sanders Commings vs. Husain Abdullah for FS
Tyler Bray vs. Chase Daniel for QB2

If bray shines we should trade Daniel for a special teams ace gunner.

nychief 03-20-2014 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10503851)
I'd rather have Richie Incognito if he's available.

That might ruffle the "we only want nice people on the Chiefs" segment of this board.


He is never playing in the NFL again.

philfree 03-20-2014 09:43 AM

I remember when Brian Waters looked like a long shot. :shrug:

Messier 03-20-2014 09:48 AM

Young unproven players should never get a shot. It's a sign of a team that has quit.

4-12

RealSNR 03-20-2014 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steron (Post 10503801)
Why do I always read it Rickshaw?

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Mr_Tomahawk 03-20-2014 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10503825)
Rishaw Johnson vs. Jeff Linkenbach for RG
Sanders Commings vs. Husain Abdullah for FS
Tyler Bray vs. Chase Daniel for QB2

QB1 2016.

Chief Roundup 03-20-2014 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10503784)
. The league lists him at 6'3 and 313 pounds. Last year's starting guards are listed at 340 pounds (Geoff Scwhartz), 306 pounds (Jon Asamoah) and 305 pounds (Jon Asamoah).

I think he was probably meaning to list Jeff Allen instead of Asamoah twice.

HoneyBadger 03-20-2014 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10503825)
Rishaw Johnson vs. Jeff Linkenbach for RG
Sanders Commings vs. Husain Abdullah for FS
Tyler Bray vs. Chase Daniel for QB2

Time to get excited!!

ToxSocks 03-20-2014 10:00 AM

Seems really early to be feeding us fluff pieces. That's how you know the chiefs are having a shit off season.

T-post Tom 03-20-2014 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10503880)
I remember when Brian Waters looked like a long shot. :shrug:

me too.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...kshaw-84.3.jpg

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-20-2014 10:21 AM

I once saw Bud Smith throw a no hitter. Didn't make him Roy Halladay.

planetdoc 03-20-2014 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10503851)
I'd rather have Richie Incognito if he's available.

That might ruffle the "we only want nice people on the Chiefs" segment of this board.

no, that would ruffle the "we only want players who dont sexually assault" segment on the board. That seems like a pretty low bar.

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According to the police report obtained by both outlets, the alleged victim claimed that Incognito "used his golf club to touch her by rubbing it up against her vagina, then up her stomach then to her chest." "After that, he proceeded to lean up against her buttocks with his private parts as if dancing, saying 'Let it rain! Let it rain!'" according to the police report. "He finally finished his inappropriate behavior by emptying bottled water in her face."
He did that to an African American volunteer. Dude is a headcase that you dont want anywhere near the chiefs offensive lines which is one of the youngest in the NFL.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10503786)
I don't know who this is

you say this a lot


Do you watch football or are you just at a football website for all da mens?

kcchiefsus 03-20-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10503978)
no, that would ruffle the "we only want players who dont sexually assault" segment on the board. That seems like a pretty low bar.



He did that to an African American volunteer. Dude is a headcase that you dont want anywhere near the chiefs offensive lines which is one of the youngest in the NFL.

Why does her being African American matter?

loochy 03-20-2014 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 10504012)
Why does her being African American matter?

it makes it racist AND mysoginistic?

it gives more to be outraged about?

or it makes it extra gross?

TEX 03-20-2014 10:35 AM

There's that San Diego game reference again... I still feel that it's being used by the Chiefs like the NFL Combine where a player shines then gets drafted higher than he should. We'll see...

The Franchise 03-20-2014 10:36 AM

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philfree 03-20-2014 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10504018)
There's that San Diego game reference again... I still feel that it's being used by the Chiefs like the NFL Combine where a player shines then gets drafted higher than he should. We'll see...

So actually seeing a player in a real NFL game is like the combine? O.K.

In58men 03-20-2014 10:52 AM

At this point we'll say anyone is good for the starting position. Honestly I didn't know he was on the team.

Direckshun 03-20-2014 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10504021)
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WTF does that mean?

His "marginal makeup could wear thin on the mushroom club"?

The Franchise 03-20-2014 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10504060)
WTF does that mean?

His "marginal makeup could wear thin on the mushroom club"?

Dick joke?

Direckshun 03-20-2014 10:57 AM

Seriously, what person from which planet thought that would be acceptable parlance?

I have no idea what that means. Not even ****ing urbandictionary.com helps.

Beef Supreme 03-20-2014 11:45 AM

I might have kept ****ing doubting him if I had known who he was. Now that I do know who he is, I will start fresh doubting him.

RunKC 03-20-2014 11:48 AM

I will say this. He looked good vs SD

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 11:55 AM

complete punt this offseason

Hunt told Reid/Dorsey that we need to win immediately to fill the seats but now we are into a new 5-year plan.

The Franchise 03-20-2014 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504225)
complete punt this offseason

Hunt told Reid/Dorsey that we need to win immediately to fill the seats but now we are into a new 5-year plan.

Total punt? No. But I'm not going to be surprised if we win 6 or 7 games and the "youth movement or experience" is the excuse.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10504236)
Total punt? No. But I'm not going to be surprised if we win 6 or 7 games and the "youth movement or experience" is the excuse.

to me 6 or 7 wins and a youth movement is a total punt

we made the playoffs and have a decent QB for the first time in a decade. We have some talent and i was expecting a 'push' to challenge Denver. Instead we rollover and give up.

What is on paper doesn't always translate to the field but our attitude is 'rebuilding' and that just totally sucks.

Apparently they are going to rebuild until Manning retires and hope we can win then.

:cuss:

Messier 03-20-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504253)
to me 6 or 7 wins and a youth movement is a total punt

we made the playoffs and have a decent QB for the first time in a decade. We have some talent and i was expecting a 'push' to challenge Denver. Instead we rollover and give up.

What is on paper doesn't always translate to the field but our attitude is 'rebuilding' and that just totally sucks.

Apparently they are going to rebuild until Manning retires and hope we can win then.

:cuss:

What are they rebuilding?

TEX 03-20-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504253)
to me 6 or 7 wins and a youth movement is a total punt

we made the playoffs and have a decent QB for the first time in a decade. We have some talent and i was expecting a 'push' to challenge Denver. Instead we rollover and give up.

What is on paper doesn't always translate to the field but our attitude is 'rebuilding' and that just totally sucks.

Apparently they are going to rebuild until Manning retires and hope we can win then.

:cuss:

Yep. Reel the fans back in and let them figure it out after they're hooked.

The Franchise 03-20-2014 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504253)
to me 6 or 7 wins and a youth movement is a total punt

we made the playoffs and have a decent QB for the first time in a decade. We have some talent and i was expecting a 'push' to challenge Denver. Instead we rollover and give up.

What is on paper doesn't always translate to on the field but our attitude is 'rebuilding' and that just totally sucks.

Apparently they are going to rebuild until Manning retires and hope we can win then.

:cuss:

I don't see it as a total punt and a youth movement. We were never going to keep up with Denver in FA. We didn't have the money due to some of the contracts in place. Yeah, you can sit here and say that a bunch of things could have been done to give yourself salary cap room. Maybe they feel that they have replacements right now to fill in some of those holes. They've chosen their path. It will either make them look like geniuses or make them look like everyone else. I'm done getting pissed off because they aren't doing what I wanted them to do. It doesn't make anything better.

ShortRoundChief 03-20-2014 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10504069)
Seriously, what person from which planet thought that would be acceptable parlance?

I have no idea what that means. Not even ****ing urbandictionary.com helps.

Mushroom club: Those guys that SNR mentioned having a circle jerk when he was in high school

Marginal makeup: Is either penis size or a knock on his staying power.

TEX 03-20-2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10504263)
What are they rebuilding?

Seriously???? The O-line for starters....

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10504263)
What are they rebuilding?

many times when a new GM/HC come in they gut the thing and start over immediately. Apparently we are going to change it by attrition. Let all the guys from the previous administration leave via FA and draft replacements.

full 5-year plan mode

Flowers,Hali will be gone next year ... maybe Sean Smith too

DJ and Charles the next

apparently the goal is to do the changeover slowly enough to maintain 8-8 and during the process.

I'm so pissed i get even see straight when i think about it

Messier 03-20-2014 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10504274)
Seriously???? The O-line for starters....

Basically one new player that they didn't play extensively last year.

ShortRoundChief 03-20-2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10504274)
Seriously???? The O-line for starters....

Yeah, I would qualify the replacement of 3/5 of the offensive line as a rebuild, especially when you factor in that the other 2. The right tackle will be in his second year and didn't even play the entire season of the first and the center played in his first full season without injury.

The o line is going to be ugly me thinks.

ShortRoundChief 03-20-2014 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10504290)
Basically one new player that they didn't play extensively last year.

Albert, Asamoah, Schwartz?

TEX 03-20-2014 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10504049)
So actually seeing a player in a real NFL game is like the combine? O.K.

No - seeing him in only 1 game and disregarding the majority body f work of the season (Or lack there of) then heavily weighting the decision on the 1 game is like heavily weighting a player based on his performance in the NFL Combine.

Never mind, I answered the question before I saw it was you who asked it...

TEX 03-20-2014 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10504290)
Basically one new player that they didn't play extensively last year.

Dude, are you reeruned? I'm "basically" trying to see if there's a reason why you cant count past 1...Holy shit!

Messier 03-20-2014 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Bull (Post 10504295)
Albert, Asamoah, Schwartz?

Asamoah and Schwartz didn't start together, they played the same position.

RunKC 03-20-2014 12:19 PM

Dorsey is using his draft picks instead of old free agents to be the difference. Let's hope this works like it is for his friend John Schneider in Seattle.

Messier 03-20-2014 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10504304)
Dude, are you reeruned? I'm "basically" trying to see if there's a reason why you cant count past 1...:shake:

Oh, shut up.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10504290)
Basically one new player that they didn't play extensively last year.

I'm glad somebody is happy with that current mediocre mode we are using.

TEX 03-20-2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504285)
many times when a new GM/HC come in they gut the thing and start over immediately. Apparently we are going to change it by attrition. Let all the guys from the previous administration leave via FA and draft replacements.

full 5-year plan mode

Flowers,Hali will be gone next year ... maybe Sean Smith too

DJ and Charles the next

apparently the goal is to do the changeover slowly enough to maintain 8-8 and during the process.

I'm so pissed i get even see straight when i think about it

I actually had a conversation with a buddy who is a Texan fan about this same thing last night.

OnTheWarpath15 03-20-2014 12:21 PM

Chase Daniel played well in the SD game as well, but I don't see anyone saying he should be starting in 2014.

Messier 03-20-2014 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504319)
I'm glad somebody is happy with that current mediocre mode with are using.

I want some new FA players too. I'm just not that worried about the o-line.

TEX 03-20-2014 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10504313)
Oh, shut up.

Seriously dude, the only reason you wouldn't get the "o-line rebuild" take is because there's "something" wrong with your thought process or you just don't want to. I'm betting it's the latter. In which case you should be asking yourself, not others, why that is because only you know the answer..:rolleyes:

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10504326)
I actually had a conversation with a buddy who is a Texan fan about this same thing last night.

it's certainly what appears to be happening from the outside looking in

no point in giving Alex Smith a new contract now or rework any of the vets

just let them play out their contracts and move on ... draft to replace

The Peterson 5-year plan is alive and well

TEX 03-20-2014 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10504336)
Chase Daniel played well in the SD game as well, but I don't see anyone saying he should be starting in 2014.

Excellent point and the same one I'm trying to make regarding that ONE game. Thank you for at least trying to see it.

Messier 03-20-2014 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10504343)
Seriously dude, the only reason you wouldn't get the "o-line rebuild" take is because there's "something" wrong with your thought process or you just don't want to. I'm betting it's the latter...:rolleyes:

The Chiefs are going into this season with the o-line of the last month of the season minus Schwartz. How is that rebuilt?

Messier 03-20-2014 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10504356)
Excellent point and the same one I'm trying to make regarding that ONE game. Thank you for at least trying to see it.

Again I'll ask. You totally against giving a young player, that showed a little promise a chance?

No, it's the Chiefs waving the white flag.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10504339)
I want some new FA players too. I'm just not that worried about the o-line.

it's not even about the Oline imo

It's about the entire 'feel' of the offseason


long and slow approach to running the team

we just traded two 2nd round draft picks for a QB just to maintain an average team while we rebuild. :banghead:

Direckshun 03-20-2014 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10504336)
Chase Daniel played well in the SD game as well, but I don't see anyone saying he should be starting in 2014.

Apples and oranges, much?

Titty Meat 03-20-2014 12:31 PM

6-10

chiefzilla1501 03-20-2014 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504285)
many times when a new GM/HC come in they gut the thing and start over immediately. Apparently we are going to change it by attrition. Let all the guys from the previous administration leave via FA and draft replacements.

full 5-year plan mode

Flowers,Hali will be gone next year ... maybe Sean Smith too

DJ and Charles the next

apparently the goal is to do the changeover slowly enough to maintain 8-8 and during the process.

I'm so pissed i get even see straight when i think about it

Because this team was poised to be a super bowl winner if they spent money? They are rebuilding while staying legitimately competitive. Anyone who thinks this team is doomed to be a lot worse than last year is overreacting.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10504364)
Again I'll ask. You totally against giving a young player, that showed a little promise a chance?

No, it's the Chiefs waving the white flag.

giving young players a chance is not the thing

during FA we ran a -5 nfl starters

We lost that talent, even if we do promote backups we still lost -5 in depth of total talent.

It's not like we lost a starter at one specific position to let a young guy play but added a starter somewhere else. Let Albert walk because we have a young guy ready ... fine. Take that money and put it to another position.

No ... we just let them all walk.

Even if we have the best draft in the history of drafts we are going to be hard pressed to do more than break even after losing 5 starters. We only have 6 draft picks so even if EVERY PICK is good we still end up with a +1.

rebuilding

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10504381)
Because this team was poised to be a super bowl winner if they spent money? They are rebuilding while staying legitimately competitive. Anyone who thinks this team is doomed to be a lot worse than last year is overreacting.

8-8 is our goal ... w00t!!!

chiefzilla1501 03-20-2014 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504390)
giving young players a chance is not the thing

during FA we ran a -5 nfl starters

We lost that talent, even if we do P romote backups we still lost -5 in depth of total talent.

It's not like we lost a starter at one specific position to let a young guy play but added a starter somewhere else. Let Albert walk because we have a young guy ready ... fine. Take that money and put it to another position.

No ... we just let them all walk.

Even if we have the best draft in the history of drafts we are going to be hard pressed to do more than break even after losing 5 starters. We only have 6 draft picks so even if EVERY PICK is good we still end up with a +1.

rebuilding

We let Albert walk because we lost him for a few games and saw no drop-off. The other guys were low positional value players. Even if we don't add a single new free agent or draft pick, we aren't going to see much drop off.

Jfc. It's not like we are shipping off jamaal Charles.

mcaj22 03-20-2014 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10503825)
Rishaw Johnson vs. Jeff Linkenbach for RG
Sanders Commings vs. Husain Abdullah for FS
Tyler Bray vs. Chase Daniel for QB2

slop vs shit for the other MLB spot next to DJ

chiefzilla1501 03-20-2014 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laz (Post 10504397)
8-8 is our goal ... w00t!!!

Yeah. Because a few free agent moves turns this team Into a Super Bowl contender therefore we should mortgage everything to win in two years.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2014 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10504398)
We let Albert walk because we lost him for a few games and saw no drop-off. The other guys were low positional value players. Even if we don't add a single new free agent or draft pick, we aren't going to see much drop off.

Jfc. It's not like we are shipping off jamaal Charles.

excuses and rationalizations

it's simple math, we still ended up -5 for starters in FA

we have significantly less talent now than we had at the end of last season

Messier 03-20-2014 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10504390)
giving young players a chance is not the thing

during FA we ran a -5 nfl starters

We lost that talent, even if we do promote backups we still lost -5 in depth of total talent.

It's not like we lost a starter at one specific position to let a young guy play but added a starter somewhere else. Let Albert walk because we have a young guy ready ... fine. Take that money and put it to another position.

No ... we just let them all walk.

Even if we have the best draft in the history of drafts we are going to be hard pressed to do more than break even after losing 5 starters. We only have 6 draft picks so even if EVERY PICK is good we still end up with a +1.

rebuilding

Two play the same position, McCluster and Jackson? Boo Hoo.

Rausch 03-20-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10504308)
Asamoah and Schwartz didn't start together, they played the same position.

And that NEVER should have been the case.

Allen should have been carrying gatoraid and Asamoah and Schwartz should have been in there (until big John went down with injury.)


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