Medical Marijuana is no longer illegal under Federal law
 

This may end up in DC, but I think it is surprising, and big enough news that it may deserve a spot in the lounge. To be clear, in states where there is not medical marijuana, it is still illegal under state law, obviously. Including most midwest states where most of us live.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2645930/fed...spending-bill/

This was not widely publicized or debated, but apparently buried deep in the 2,000+ page 2016 spending bill, congress quietly banned the DEA and any other federal agents from raiding medical marijuana dispensaries in states where it is legal.

Marijuana is still illegal under federal law as a schedule I controlled substance, but this effectively ends the threat that the Feds might someday crack down on medical marijuana in states where it is legal.

This will open some floodgates.

So one day those of us with random drug testing jobs will be able to smoke marijuana as we wish?

By the time this is the case, I suspect we'll be retired. Maybe not though, who knows anymore. Change has been coming quickly these days.

This cat is out of the bag and running full sprint.

Donger is investing in Taco Bell and Cheetos stocks. If you stoners can think of others, please advise. Thanks.

Hot pockets

medical marijuana has no thc in it anyway

I'm pretty sure that degenerate stoners imbibe mountain dew. Who owns that brand?

Are you high?

suck

Wut?

thats my understanding of medical marijuana. You cant really get stoned.
I dont care, I havent done it since 97 or there about.

LOL and I live in Oregon now...theres like a million strip clubs

Maybe you thinking of CBD oil.

Could you share with us your understanding of other things? What is your understanding of how Santa works? How about the Easter Bunny?

If you are for real, then you are very, very wrong. Especially on the west coast, "medical marijuana" will get you really ****ing stoned.

You've seen his football takes.

Weed could be completely legal tomorrow, but your company can still drug test you. It has nothing to do with legality.

Yup. Can bar you from drinking today if they wanted too.

maybe

Most companies are not enthusiastic about testing beyond the opening screen, though. I work for a very conservative company and they definitely test before hiring.

Beyond that though.... I've been with my employer 10 years and never been tested again, which tells me they are only interested in screening out the undisciplined degenerates who can't even hold it together long enough until they have gotten the job. They are not as interested in finding out that current functionally effective hard-working employees might be on something.

For sure. Heck, 90% of randoms get tossed over cost. Just a scare tactic.

Pre-employment ones are legit though. I've failed one. :(

That's just Pepsi stock I believe. I know they own the snack food market and I think Pepsi has a stock in Taco Bell's parent company.

Medical marijuana is known around the west coast as being the stronger strains and will make you go stupid high. When I was a pot head that was the golden words... "I got that med weed bruh"

It most defenatly has THC. It doesn't cure cancer. What it does is keep people eating through heavy doses of chemotherapy. I've seen 2 family members deal with it. The one that smoked made it through because she kept putting away loads of food thanks to the pot. The other refused and didn't last but a few months into chemo because there body wasted away because he could keep food down for shit.

THAT'S THE DEVIL'S LETTUCE!!/HonestChiefsFan

Funyuns!

Mountain Dew is the best soda ever made.

As someone who does a lot of federal criminal defense cases, including more federal drug cases than I can count, I can give a legitimate legal opinion about this.

First, this is good news. Federal law is extremely onerous and any minimizing, lightening or ameliorating those effects is a positive thing.

Second, this does not make medical marijuana legal. There is no medical exception for the use, possession and distribution of marijuana on the federal level. Instead, this spending bill says at the government cannot spend any money to make a case against medical marijuana growers and providers. This does not change any statute but affects DOJ spending. Just as it was rather easy to make this change, it is easy to change it back. Further, a change in the governments spending priorities does not create a legal defense.

Let's give an example: DEA is investigating a Mexican cartel that is distributing cocaine. DEA finds out that this group is also growing mj and some is going to medical groups. DEA has not spent money to prosecute the medical providers but just found that info. They could still initiate a prosecution if they could show that all evidence came from their investigation of the cocaine distribution of the cartel. If you owned a medical marijuana facility that got mj from the cartel, you cannot use this spending bill as a defense. That is, you cannot move the court to dismiss the case because of this spending bill, nor can you tell a jury that you should be found not guilty because of the spending bill.

However, and this is the third point, buying a small amount of medical mj from a dispensary is extremely unlikely to result in federal prosecution. Unless a case involved possession on federal property, usually a federal national park, most cases involving possession of small amounts of marijuana rarely results in federal prosecution anyway. Most federal drug cases target large conspiracies. Most of my cocaine cases, for example, involve many. Many kilos of cocaine. Same with heroin. The cases I have had involving marijuana have likewise involved hundreds, if not thousands, of kilos of marijuana or have involved forfeit able assets that would generate lots of income to the government.

Fourthly, and this is important, this does not change federal law regarding the acceptability of marijuana as a medicine. This means that if you use medical marijuana and you own, possession or use firearms, you are still subject to potential prosecution under 18 USC 922. Any statement on a firearm purchase application can be analyzed for veracity. Out another way, if you use medical marijuana and you seek to purchase a firearm from someone with a federal firearms license, you will be asked if you illegaly use drugs, including marijuana. If you answer"no", you can be prosecuted for making a false statement on a federal firearms application as well as unlawful possession or purchase of a firearm. And yes, there have been such federal prosecutions.

So what will this change do? It will likely prevent continuing the forfeiture case against the Oakland medical cannabis club. It will likely prevent future prosecutions of and forfeiture actions against legitimate medical clubs unless there is some tie to cartels, crime or firearms. It will make it much safer for patients to enter a medical marijuana facility without fearing that they will be called as a witness in any federal prosecution. All in all, even with the limits of this decision, it is a step in the right direction and I anticipate seeing the day that marijuana is legal on a federal level.

However, whatever the government does has no impact upon private companies. Compare this to alcohol. Alcohol is legal on a federal level but companies are still free to govern the possession and use of alcohol by employees. Airline pilots, for example, can lose their job for showing up for work with any alcohol in their blood. While a pilots license comes through FAA, and the FAA may restrict a license, this has nothing to do with one's employment. So if you need medical marijuana for a medical condition, do not expect this decision to suddenly allow use of marijuana for jobs for which it is otherwise prohibited. If you have a condition that requires medical marijuana, I would contact HR at work to check on your company's policies. The Americans with Disabilities Act should prohibit any negative recriminations upon your work. (emphasis is on the word "should".) keep in mind this will create a record of you using medical marijuana, which could impact your ability to purchase and/or possess firearms.

Keep in mind this is a general overview of how this change in federal appropriations will affect the general federal legal investigation of medical marijuana facilities. It is not intended to be legal advice for your particular situation. Should you need legal aid advice, you should contact legal counsel in your jurisdiction.

cut the roof of my mouth lol

daddy loves the pain

I don't think so. Companies will still be free to tell you that you can't smoke it if you work for them. And most still will.

I don't know. If it's a prescribed medication I could see there being some issues there.

Jack Daniels has 0% alcohol in it as well.

Since this is part of a bill that only lasts a year does that provision also expire at that time? Do they have to keep putting it in the spending bills every year?

Yes.

You could argue some Americans with disabilities Act issues but if thy can show why it's detrimental to the job, you'd lose out. So you couldn't do it as an airplane pilot of some other job where you needed to be in complete control of your faculties. This would pretty much mean any job where you operate heavy equipment. That is just a minimum.

A doctor can prescribe medication and you can still lose your job if either the medication or the underlying medical condition would mean you cannot perform your job. It is really a case by case basis but do not expect to keep being a train engineer if you have a physical condition that requires medical marijuana. Now, I don't do employment law so maybe because of the union contract they would have to offer you a desk job that did not require operating a train. That answer is dependent upon the contract but as an attorney, I would start there and then look to see if your job provided an exception or if the contract required another remedy.

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Just because its legal doesn't mean your job will allow it.

False. Most does have lower amounts but also medical marijuana has higher levels of CBD.

Exactly. Just like some employers don't want you to use Alcohol and tobacco.

It's the same weed guys. Same seed banks, same grow ops. I literally just walk to the other side of the room.

Super high CBD strains are sold recreationally and super shit dirt weed is still sold medically.

Luck of the harvest.

Random question. When prescribed medical marijuana, does the strain come with the prescription or can you walk in and get whatever you want?

Whatever you want, but everyone is limited in quantity. You can't walk in and buy a pound of weed. When I was in Colorado last summer it was 7grams per day per person. Funny thing is edibles are only considered 1 gram. I bought a 7 grams my first day in smokable form. Every day after that it was a mix of mouth spray's, cookies, brownies and suckers. Best vacation I've had in years!

Wrong again.

All cannabis has THC in it, it's just a matter of how much. Even hemp that you find growing on the side of the road has minuscule amounts of THC in it. Just not enough to get you high.

Edibles are maxed out at 100mg total THC for recreational out of staters like Ham. Unfortunately for math that equates to 70 edibles per day. More if you're buying less potent stuff.

No specifications at all except how many plants you're allowed to grow. You can see at dr. at 9am and see me at 10.

marijuana is completely harmless so I'm not sure what the big deal is; a bit archaic in 2015

Good to know. I'm guessing certain strains are more beneficial to specific ailments. Is that a conversation/recommendation that gets had at the dispensary or do people just pick out whatever?

There are some shops that will treat you like cattle regardless of your medical card. But most medical shops are going to be staffed with people that will have that conversation with you all day, every day.

You can also just pick out whatever.

He must be!! SMFH

I think i understand you now.

What is really a completely contradictory fact, is that on one hand the government and many states are racing to legalize pot and on the other, heroin overdoses and addiction is at an all time high and out of control.

How do you explain the total polar opposites to young people about drugs? I'm so glad I don't have kids.

It's scarey scho. Being home enough to be there for them instead of making the almighty dollar paramount and/or putting in a good private school that's educates them on what habits they need to succeed and educates them about the perils of drugs. Though nothing entirely fail-proof these days. There's a lot out there today that makes it easier for kids to fail in life.

That was soooooooooooo ****ed up.


seriously twisted :eek:

Telling them the truth about drugs is probably a good place to start. Arm your kids with as much good information as possible, and trust them to do the right thing.

Pretending that weed fries your brain, funds terrorism, and makes white women lust after black men probably isn't the best way to go. I mean, two of those things aren't even true.

ROFL

Mostly because the DEA has been cracking down on prescription opioids so users turn to the next best largely available thing which is heroin.

Yes, the war on drugs is quite adept at turning out the opposite outcome of what it supporters wish it would do.

Exactly.

So what kind of diagnosis can I fake to get this stuff? I do live in a red state so it's probably not easy here. I am assuming chronic back pain would probably be the easiest.

Making hydrocodone a CII was a joke. And let's make tramadol a CII!!

Who the **** is gonna abuse ****ing tramadol???

Frito Lays. Dumbass.

Microwave your junk 3 times a day. Smoke 3 packs a day, and tan obsessively. This will lead you to supreme victory.

If you have a script though, you're "cool"... Maybe...

Frito Lay...and fast food spots too, Jack In the Box. Hell, they already have "Munchy Meals".

I've been subject to randoms for over 10 years. Screening does nothing if you have a brain in your head.

I'm high right now, matter of fact. I actually don't get hungry when im high like others do. I completely lose my appetite and find most food revolting. Then about 2-3hrs later the high wears off and hunger kicks in.

communist!! :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

oh wait, :bong: :thumb:

Mock all you want but "the munchies" are a huge medical benefit.

Kids are smart enough to see the difference between marijuana and heroin. And it is good for them to learn that the world is not black and white, they can actually see in betweens. All drugs are not equally bad, and they can understand that.

I don't like weed, I have never used and most likely never will. I don't want it legalized, but I am not adamant against those who want to use it either, I am kind of apathetic towards it. I will say I hate driving customers cars who have young kids in the car and it wreaks of weed, that pisses me off. All that to be said, something definitely impacted me greatly. My sister in law who is 36 got breast cancer, and had cancer found in her lymph node, and she took chemo and she has had taken the chemo terribly, I mean she looks like she is dying, she is a very thin girl, she is about 5'9 and about 135lbs, and she lost 26lbs in 2 weeks, and just throwing up all the time. My brother was in a spot of helplessness, and he researched a lot on line and he bought weed illegally here in Ohio, and they both have never used a drug, but he made a decision and purchased some weed and she smoked it and it helped here feel 100 times better, and has really helped her battle through chemo. I have never discredited medical marijuana because my mom, sister, aunt and wife are all nurses and I have seen it work positively, but never seen it up close and work so drastically.

Most of the licenses are given for chronic pain.

Explain how much you hate opiates and need to function during your daily life.

Then explain that you are too great of an athlete to smoke flower and as such will need a high plant count so you can make edibles.

Then explain that while you're a very intelligent, super focused athlete, you are completely inept in the kitchen and will need a 99 plant count.

Then shop your 99 plant count around town until you find a shop that will offer you the greatest rewards.

It is helping save your sister in law's life but you don;t want it legalized?

Medical marijuana isn't any worse than medical heroin (i.e. prescription pain killers with opiates).

I think it would do more negative than good, but honestly, seeing what it has done for her, knowing what it could do for others, I think it would be worth legalizing it. My mind tells me that there is probably 1-2% of the population that use it legitimately for a medical purpose, but seeing what it did for her, who am I to tell someone in that state they shouldn't be able to use it? I am not judge and jury, "it is appointed for men to die once and then the judgment" let God judge, that's not up to me.

Long story short,the Feds will forever be able to do what ever they want to whom ever they want for what ever reason they want. Government will never let them be limited by any law ,supposed or actual

This is very cynical, and in my experience untrue. I've worked as a contractor for a half dozen government agencies and every branch of the military for the last 30 years and I've seen the lengths they go to in order to comply with federal law.