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Mescalito345 05-07-2025 11:21 PM

Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Tyreek, and who else?
 
Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Tyreek, and who else?

Bump 05-07-2025 11:28 PM

Mahomes

Yo Murphy. 05-07-2025 11:30 PM

Sky Moore obv.

SAGA45 05-07-2025 11:36 PM

Blake Hogshooter

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xztop123 05-07-2025 11:37 PM

Owens obviously. Megatron. Holt had 6 straight seasons with 1300+ yards , marvin harrison

Mescalito345 05-07-2025 11:42 PM

Thanks for the reply, but I do not watch college football. Who is that?

jjchieffan 05-07-2025 11:42 PM

Otis Taylor

Mescalito345 05-07-2025 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 18057950)
Otis Taylor

Otis Taylor was one of my favorite players when I played high school football. My other favorite was OJ.

Bump 05-07-2025 11:45 PM

There was this guy named Bobby Sippio

Best ****ing training camp of all time, hands down

Mescalito345 05-07-2025 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 18057947)
Owens obviously. Megatron. Holt had 6 straight seasons with 1300+ yards , marvin harrison

Thanks, but who is Megatron?

Bump 05-08-2025 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 18057953)
Thanks, but who is Megatron?

He was the leader of the decepticons

dlphg9 05-08-2025 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 18057954)
He was the leader of the decepticons

Lmao

Rain Man 05-08-2025 12:04 AM

Don Hutson.

Jamie 05-08-2025 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 18057954)
He was the leader of the decepticons

I always thought he would have been better as quarterback. Dude had a cannon for an arm.

SAGA45 05-08-2025 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 18057961)
I always thought he would have been better as quarterback. Dude had a cannon for an arm.

Sh*t that's epic!:clap:

Bump 05-08-2025 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 18057961)
I always thought he would have been better as quarterback. Dude had a cannon for an arm.

Nice

https://media.tenor.com/qiR7cE-Ur38A...le-chuckle.gif

GabyKeepsMeWarm 05-08-2025 12:52 AM

I was told there’d be no math…

Mescalito345 05-08-2025 01:49 AM

By December 2026, we might be able to add Xworthy to this list.

Wisconsin_Chief 05-08-2025 02:46 AM

Flipper Anderson was pretty good.

As far as Chiefs go, I still have hope for Snoop Minnis.

In58men 05-08-2025 03:46 AM

1. Jerry Rice

2. Randy Moss

3. Terrell Owens

4. Larry Fitzgerald

Crazy stat, Larry Fitzgerald has more tackles than dropped passes. That means over a 17-season career, catching 1,432 passes, he dropped fewer than 30 balls.

Larry also had roughly 22 different QBs in his career:

1. Kurt Warner (2005–2009)
• Hall of Famer; led Fitz to a Super Bowl.
2. Carson Palmer (2013–2017)
• Second most productive QB-WR combo for Fitzgerald.
3. Josh McCown (2004)
• Fitzgerald’s rookie year starter.
4. Matt Leinart (2006–2010)
• Heisman winner, underwhelming pro career.
5. Kevin Kolb (2011–2012)
• Injury-prone stint after trade from Eagles.
6. Drew Stanton (2014–2017)
• Reliable backup during Palmer era.
7. John Skelton (2010–2012)
• Unexpected starter during chaotic QB years.
8. Derek Anderson (2010)
• Former Pro Bowler with Browns.
9. Ryan Lindley (2012, 2014)
• Struggled statistically, but started multiple games.
10. Max Hall (2010)

• Undrafted rookie who started 3 games.

11. Blaine Gabbert (2017)

• Filled in post-Palmer injury.

12. Sam Bradford (2018)

• Short-lived starter; benched after 3 games.

13. Josh Rosen (2018)

• First-round pick, one season in Arizona.

14. Kyler Murray (2019–2020)

• Fitzgerald’s final QB.



Additional QBs Who Started Games and Likely Threw to Fitz
15. Brian St. Pierre (2010)
16. Shaun King (2004)
17. Jeff Blake (2004)
18. Chris Redman (practice squad era)
19. Rich Bartel (2011)
20. Logan Thomas (2014)
21. Charlie Whitehurst (2016)
22. Mike Glennon (2017, backup, threw in-game passes)

Womble 05-08-2025 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 18057989)
1. Jerry Rice

2. Randy Moss

3. Terrell Owens

4. Larry Fitzgerald

Crazy stat, Larry Fitzgerald has more tackles than dropped passes. That means over a 17-season career, catching 1,432 passes, he dropped fewer than 30 balls.

Larry also had roughly 22 different QBs in his career:

1. Kurt Warner (2005–2009)
• Hall of Famer; led Fitz to a Super Bowl.
2. Carson Palmer (2013–2017)
• Second most productive QB-WR combo for Fitzgerald.
3. Josh McCown (2004)
• Fitzgerald’s rookie year starter.
4. Matt Leinart (2006–2010)
• Heisman winner, underwhelming pro career.
5. Kevin Kolb (2011–2012)
• Injury-prone stint after trade from Eagles.
6. Drew Stanton (2014–2017)
• Reliable backup during Palmer era.
7. John Skelton (2010–2012)
• Unexpected starter during chaotic QB years.
8. Derek Anderson (2010)
• Former Pro Bowler with Browns.
9. Ryan Lindley (2012, 2014)
• Struggled statistically, but started multiple games.
10. Max Hall (2010)

• Undrafted rookie who started 3 games.

11. Blaine Gabbert (2017)

• Filled in post-Palmer injury.

12. Sam Bradford (2018)

• Short-lived starter; benched after 3 games.

13. Josh Rosen (2018)

• First-round pick, one season in Arizona.

14. Kyler Murray (2019–2020)

• Fitzgerald’s final QB.



Additional QBs Who Started Games and Likely Threw to Fitz
15. Brian St. Pierre (2010)
16. Shaun King (2004)
17. Jeff Blake (2004)
18. Chris Redman (practice squad era)
19. Rich Bartel (2011)
20. Logan Thomas (2014)
21. Charlie Whitehurst (2016)
22. Mike Glennon (2017, backup, threw in-game passes)

Shut up Larry.

In58men 05-08-2025 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 18057990)
Shut up Larry.

I gotta stick out my neck for the guy.

He doesn’t get the credit he deserves lol

InChiefsHeaven 05-08-2025 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 18057991)
I gotta stick out my neck for the guy.

He doesn’t get the credit he deserves lol

That pass drop stat is other wordly. In 17 years, he's got 30 drops??? That's it???

Damn. Respect.

FloridaMan88 05-08-2025 06:07 AM

Sean LaChapelle.

KC_Lee 05-08-2025 06:09 AM

Steve Largent.

threebag 05-08-2025 06:14 AM

Marc Boerigter

https://jeffpearlman.com/wp-content/...2.06.33-am.jpg

lcarus 05-08-2025 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 18057983)
Flipper Anderson was pretty good.

As far as Chiefs go, I still have hope for Snoop Minnis.

He got that 1 touchdown and it made you feel like he was gonna be good.


That was the only TD of his career.

FloridaMan88 05-08-2025 06:41 AM

Skyy Less or Craphonoso Thorpe.

In58men 05-08-2025 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 18057993)
That pass drop stat is other wordly. In 17 years, he's got 30 drops??? That's it???

Damn. Respect.

Yep, just think if he had a more stable QB like Rice, Calvin or Harrison had. Arizona didn’t do any favors with their 22 different QBs lol. His drop count could have been even lower.

Sofa King 05-08-2025 07:57 AM

Megatron is the obvious one. Could pick up Larry Fitzgerald in the slot- he's not a dumbass like Owens is.

Gary Cooper 05-08-2025 07:58 AM

Rice is universally regarded as the best with Moss regarded by most as #2.

After that, there's little to no consensus. Owens, Megatron, Fitzgerald, with some old schoolers like Hutson and Largent being mentioned.

nychief 05-08-2025 08:10 AM

Carlos Carson.
Stephon Paige.
Henry Marshall.
Robb Thomas.

redfan 05-08-2025 08:13 AM

Isaac the Bruce
Tim Brown
Tony G
Marvin & Reggie
Steve Smith
Chris Carter

FloridaMan88 05-08-2025 08:14 AM

I’d still put Otis Taylor over Tyreek as best WR in Chiefs history.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqYCTHHW...jpg&name=large

Deberg_1990 05-08-2025 08:38 AM

Steve Largent

Gary Cooper 05-08-2025 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18058067)
I’d still put Otis Taylor over Tyreek as best WR in Chiefs history.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqYCTHHW...jpg&name=large

LOL. Donald Driver is not better than Don Hutson. He was probably the league's first elite WR.

TEX 05-08-2025 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 18058099)
LOL. Donald Driver is not better than Don Hutson. He was probably the league's first elite WR.

And I don't think Antonio Brown was better than Lynn Swann or John Stallworth.

lcarus 05-08-2025 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 18058051)
Rice is universally regarded as the best with Moss regarded by most as #2.

After that, there's little to no consensus. Owens, Megatron, Fitzgerald, with some old schoolers like Hutson and Largent being mentioned.

Rice's career stats are unbelievable. It'll be hard for anybody to break them. Which is even more impressive considering the era he played in compared to now.

loochy 05-08-2025 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 18057953)
Thanks, but who is Megatron?


are you a real person?

Rain Man 05-08-2025 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18058067)
I’d still put Otis Taylor over Tyreek as best WR in Chiefs history.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqYCTHHW...jpg&name=large

I have issues with several of those.

Rain Man 05-08-2025 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 18058099)
LOL. Donald Driver is not better than Don Hutson. He was probably the league's first elite WR.

Hutson has been retired since WWII and he was still in the top 10 in career receiving TDs until recently.

RealSNR 05-08-2025 10:34 AM

Sylvester Morris had that one breakout game against San Diego and then the injury happened and he was never the same. I always think what could have been.

If he hadn’t gotten injured and built upon the initial success he was having, can you imagine the Vermeil offense with the addition of a top 20 starting WR?

tredadda 05-08-2025 10:41 AM

Jason Avant. He catches everything.

Deberg_1990 05-08-2025 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 18058190)
Sylvester Morris had that one breakout game against San Diego and then the injury happened and he was never the same. I always think what could have been.

If he hadn’t gotten injured and built upon the initial success he was having, can you imagine the Vermeil offense with the addition of a top 20 starting WR?

That 2000 offense was pretty decent. Both Tony G has 1000 yards. And Derrick Alexander had 1300+ yards I had forgotten Derrick Alexander was on Vermeil’s first 2001 team. But I guess he wasn’t a fit in DVs offense or gotten old?

Mecca 05-08-2025 11:40 AM

I love that Owens gets so much praise now...when during his playing days so many hates him...writers didn't even make him a first ballot hofer because they didn't like him.

BigCatDaddy 05-08-2025 11:48 AM

Largent
Welker
Edelman
Kupp
McCaffery

Pitt Gorilla 05-08-2025 11:48 AM

Brian Shay

Kiimo 05-08-2025 12:13 PM

Tyreek lmao



Ja'Marr Chase has a better chance than Hill

Mescalito345 05-08-2025 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 18058142)
are you a real person?

No, I’m a Russian bot named Boris.

Rain Man 05-08-2025 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18058067)
I’d still put Otis Taylor over Tyreek as best WR in Chiefs history.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqYCTHHW...jpg&name=large

Okay, coming back to this. I have a big plumbing hole being dug in my back yard today, so I'm distracted.

I'm fine with a lot of them, but some are way off, as follows:

Buffalo - James Lofton is better than Andre Reed with only minor debate.

Chicago - I have no idea who Harlon Hill is, but I can't think of anyone better. Most people say Willie Gault. It might even be George Halas. No one cares until they get an actual good one.

Cincinnati - I'd lean Isaac Curtis over Chad JOHNSON. I'm open to debate.

Cleveland - Ozzie Newsome isn't even a wide receiver. Come on. If we're talking wide receivers, it would be ... umm ... it would be ... has Cleveland ever had a good wide receiver? I guess Paul Warfield, but it's not like he's known as a Brown.

Green Bay - Listing Donald Driver over Don Hutson is so bad that it destroys their whole graphic. I'm not sure Donald Driver is even second if you consider Sterling Sharpe.

Indianapolis - A good argument can be made for Raymond Berry here, but I can't criticize Marvin Harrison too much.

Las Oakland - Tim Brown is so overrated. The answer here is Cliff Branch. And don't throw that stupid stickied-up Biletnikoff in my face. He's not in the discussion.

New England - Get that shrimpy Edelman joker off the list and put a real wide receiver on. Stanley Morgan is the answer here.

Philadelphia - A.J. Brown? Did a 14 year-old make this list? Look up Mike Quick and change your answer. And one could argue for Desean Jackson or even Harold Carmichael over Brown. That's a lazy answer.

Pittsburgh - No, not Antonio Brown. John Stalworth. But Brown, Swann, and Hines Ward are close enough to quibble about.

Tennessee - Derrick Mason doesn't cut it. Go with one of the Run and Shoot guys. I lean toward Earnest Givins, but I would accept Haywood Jeffires as an answer as well.

Washington - Meh, Art Monk. Longevity award. The real answer is Charley Taylor.


It's kind of shocking to see how many franchises have never had a franchise receiver. Chicago, Cleveland, NY Giants, and New Orleans have embarrassing answers to this question.

Otter 05-08-2025 12:47 PM

Larry Fitzgerald, Jimmy Smith and Megatron.

All Day

MarkDavis'Haircut 05-08-2025 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18057957)
Don Hutson.

Beat me to it.

Hutson absolutely belongs.

Rain Man 05-08-2025 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 18058411)
Beat me to it.

Hutson absolutely belongs.

I've long been curious about Hutson and how he accomplished what he did. The guy put up modern-era stats when Franklin Roosevelt was president. Was he really that good? Did the Packers have some sort of innovative pass offense that the rest of the league couldn't copycat? He's such an outlier that he must've had a lot of physical talent (and I've read that he was very fast even though 40-yard dashes didn't exist back then), but I also think there must have been some difference in how they ran their passing game as well. What do you think?

Megatron96 05-08-2025 01:30 PM

80, Moss, Calvin, and Fitzy. After that it gets harder.

I’d probably have to go with TO at that point. Then Marvin Harrison maybe, Largent, then cris carter. Then maybe Herman Moore? Probably a little bit of a stretch.

Mescalito345 05-08-2025 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 18058451)
80, Moss, Calvin, and Fitzy. After that it gets harder.

I’d probably have to go with TO at that point. Then Marvin Harrison maybe, Largent, then cris carter. Then maybe Herman Moore? Probably a little bit of a stretch.

I have a serious question. Based on your username, maybe you can answer it. Who in the eff is the NFL player named MEGATRON?

Rain Man 05-08-2025 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 18058483)
I have a serious question. Based on your username, maybe you can answer it. Who in the eff is the NFL player named MEGATRON?

I'm not a fan of the nickname, but for some reason people use it anyway.

https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img...gin&format=jpg

Megatron96 05-08-2025 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 18058483)
I have a serious question. Based on your username, maybe you can answer it. Who in the eff is the NFL player named MEGATRON?



Lol, seriously?

Calvin Johnson, aka MEGATRON.

DJJasonp 05-08-2025 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 18057989)
1. Jerry Rice

2. Randy Moss

3. Terrell Owens

4. Larry Fitzgerald

Crazy stat, Larry Fitzgerald has more tackles than dropped passes. That means over a 17-season career, catching 1,432 passes, he dropped fewer than 30 balls.

Larry also had roughly 22 different QBs in his career:

1. Kurt Warner (2005–2009)
• Hall of Famer; led Fitz to a Super Bowl.
2. Carson Palmer (2013–2017)
• Second most productive QB-WR combo for Fitzgerald.
3. Josh McCown (2004)
• Fitzgerald’s rookie year starter.
4. Matt Leinart (2006–2010)
• Heisman winner, underwhelming pro career.
5. Kevin Kolb (2011–2012)
• Injury-prone stint after trade from Eagles.
6. Drew Stanton (2014–2017)
• Reliable backup during Palmer era.
7. John Skelton (2010–2012)
• Unexpected starter during chaotic QB years.
8. Derek Anderson (2010)
• Former Pro Bowler with Browns.
9. Ryan Lindley (2012, 2014)
• Struggled statistically, but started multiple games.
10. Max Hall (2010)

• Undrafted rookie who started 3 games.

11. Blaine Gabbert (2017)

• Filled in post-Palmer injury.

12. Sam Bradford (2018)

• Short-lived starter; benched after 3 games.

13. Josh Rosen (2018)

• First-round pick, one season in Arizona.

14. Kyler Murray (2019–2020)

• Fitzgerald’s final QB.



Additional QBs Who Started Games and Likely Threw to Fitz
15. Brian St. Pierre (2010)
16. Shaun King (2004)
17. Jeff Blake (2004)
18. Chris Redman (practice squad era)
19. Rich Bartel (2011)
20. Logan Thomas (2014)
21. Charlie Whitehurst (2016)
22. Mike Glennon (2017, backup, threw in-game passes)

sold!

DJJasonp 05-08-2025 02:25 PM

no love for Steve Smith? Did he ever have a legit QB? guys top 10 yardage all-time

Easy 6 05-08-2025 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 18058545)
no love for Steve Smith? Did he ever have a legit QB? guys top 10 yardage all-time

Came here to post that exact guy, absolutely loved his game and heart

Nope he never did... best QB he ever had was mid-ass Jake DelHomme

kysirsoze 05-08-2025 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 18058483)
I have a serious question. Based on your username, maybe you can answer it. Who in the eff is the NFL player named MEGATRON?

Google could have gotten you there much more quickly and with less mockery.

RustShack 05-08-2025 05:46 PM

Moss. Rice. Megatron. Fitz.

MarkDavis'Haircut 05-08-2025 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18058426)
I've long been curious about Hutson and how he accomplished what he did. The guy put up modern-era stats when Franklin Roosevelt was president. Was he really that good? Did the Packers have some sort of innovative pass offense that the rest of the league couldn't copycat? He's such an outlier that he must've had a lot of physical talent (and I've read that he was very fast even though 40-yard dashes didn't exist back then), but I also think there must have been some difference in how they ran their passing game as well. What do you think?

Elite athlete combined with Lambeau's focus on passing.

Researchers reconstructed 1920s stats from newspaper articles and Lambeau, as a player, was a top five passer. He continued that trend as a coach. Herber and Isbell were solid passers. Herber was elite for his time, actually.

It was a perfect combination of an elite player married to a smart coach and a great deep ball passer (Herber).

MarkDavis'Haircut 05-08-2025 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18058067)
I’d still put Otis Taylor over Tyreek as best WR in Chiefs history.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqYCTHHW...jpg&name=large

I love Branch but Brown is the right choice. He produced amazing numbers despite the parade of journeymen that Al saddled him with. He and Rice turned Gannon into a MVP.

Branch had Stabler and Plunkett.

Unless they are counting Huston as an end - Green Bay's choice is a farce. Driver was good but Sterling Sharpe was far superior. His injury cost Green Bay a chance at multiple Super Bowls with Favre.

And honestly I would pick Hirsch or Fears for the Rams. The early 1950s Rams had a lethal offense. The 1950 Rams still own the record for most PPG in a NFL history: 38.8.

The 1950 Rams hold the NFL's all-time record for average points per game, scoring 38.8 points per contest.[1] They also hold the record for most points in a three-game span, with 165 points between October 15 and 29.[2] They are the only team in modern NFL history to score 60-or-more points twice in a season. They did so in consecutive games, in Weeks Six (70) and Seven (65).

Garcia Bronco 05-08-2025 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 18057941)
Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Tyreek, and who else?

I mean off the top of my head....

Calvin Johnson,
Larry Fitzgerald,
Tony Gonzalez,
Demaryius Thomas,
Steve largent,
Terrell Owens,
Tim Brown,
Isaac Bruce,
Marvin Harrison,
Julio Jones,

Garcia Bronco 05-08-2025 09:31 PM

Andre Reed

Garcia Bronco 05-08-2025 09:33 PM

Michael Irvin

Garcia Bronco 05-08-2025 09:33 PM

Reggie Wayne

Garcia Bronco 05-08-2025 09:34 PM

F****** Art Monk

TripleThreat 05-08-2025 10:02 PM

I've always felt Andre Johnson was underrated. Mean, Big, Fast, Athletic...

teedubya 05-09-2025 04:58 AM

Dwayne Bowe? lol


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