Who the heck is this guy? Patrick Mahomes the 6th best QB in the league?
 

I came across this article after listening to the local sports program where they were talking about Trevor Lawrence....

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/p...-lead-the-way/

Sometimes you just wonder what people are thinking other than, " can I create clickbait" when they put up crap like this.

Post-draft NFL QB Power Rankings
1 Jayden Daniels
Washington Commanders QB
Recency bias? Sure. But you'd be hard-pressed to find an NFL team that wouldn't hurry to claim him as its quarterback of the present and future, contenders included. He was simply unflappable for much of his dynamic debut, which ended on the doorstep of the Super Bowl . A second-year dip is possible, but who says Daniels won't keep climbing with some added veteran help in D.C.?

2 Jalen Hurts
Philadelphia Eagles QB
He was frequently and often unfairly knocked for holding more of a background role during much of the Eagles ' Super Bowl run, but what more can you ask of this man when the lights shine brightest? His title campaign may have proved he's best suited as a selective rather than high-volume passer, but his instincts, toughness, downfield touch and rugged mobility all show up in the clutch.

3 Joe Burrow
Cincinnati Bengals QB
The Bengals are just 14-13 in his last two seasons of starts, so it's clear he can't do it all alone. Yet who else would you rather have for pure pocket passing? His poise and precision are dynamite.

4 Lamar Jackson
Baltimore Ravens QB
The playoff hurdles have yet to be fully cleared. That doesn't change the fact Jackson is a walking fireworks show, forever liable to change a game in a single play with his dual-threat electricity.

5 Josh Allen
Buffalo Bills QB
The reigning MVP is coming off his most efficient season while operating with a new-look receiving group. Like Lamar Jackson , another AFC superhero, he's just yet to escape the Chiefs ' shadow.

6 Patrick Mahomes
Kansas City Chiefs QB
Was Mahomes' ugly Super Bowl showing an anomaly, or clear evidence his increasing dependence on last-minute heroics isn't as sustainable as it once was for Kansas City? A healthier pass-catching corps should help, but his leaky O-line still has questions. There's no denying No. 15 is still the most trustworthy signal-caller in the game, but he's now proven vulnerable twice on the big stage.

Apparently it's better to lose in the divisional round to Josh allen or in the AFC champ game to Mahomes than lose in the SB.

Can't do that.

Take a quick look at the dude's profile pic, and that should tell you everything you need to know.

A literal clown in every sense of the word, probably has never even watched a pro football game.

Why would I wonder if they're thinking anything else.... of course it's clickbait.

To some extent I could see putting Jalen Hurts at #1 based on last year, and when the Chiefs beat Philly before it wasn't because he didn't give it his best effort.

But come on.....Jayden Daniels had a really good year but defensive coordinators will have had one year of tape to figure out how to make his sophomore year less pleasant. Remember how everyone was crowning C J Stroud to be the next great QB and how he slumped after everyone got tape on him.

And to put Burrow, Jackson and Allen in front of Mahomes? Come on, he is the brick wall all 3 of those guys have run into when they are trying to make it to the Super Bowl and none of them have the SB cred that Mahomes does already in his career.

What do you think?

I get it....it just had me shaking my head.

ROFL

They never learn. I've noticed a lot of the talk in sports media this off-season speaks as if the Chiefs' Dynasty is over. Not much discussion about how or why, they just assume it's over. The fools will never learn.

I mean, he was 8th in QBR last year. And 8th the year before. If we are talking about a SNAPSHOT of how good QBs are right now it is not terribly unreasonable.

Need more people ranking him similarly or lower. Petty Pat is best Pat.

LMAO

They'll just hire any casual bundle of sticks fan to write about sports these days, huh?

The worst comic strip ever created was Zippy the Pinhead. It was never once clever or funny. I always wondered what Zippy did after it was finally flushed from circulation, and now we know. He's a sportswriter for CBS.

https://wp.comicskingdom.com/comicsk...022-08-03.jpeg

Yeah...I saw where Cowherd is already calling for the Chargers to win the AFC West....but didn't he do that last year too?

I know you like taking contrary positions, but this one is off the mark.

Seems everyone use to measure the QB's ranking by SB's won when Brady was active....now it is by Fantasy Stats.

What is that, I don't even...

Unreal what sports journalism has sunk to.

What would be fun is to watch as Patrick gets his WR Corp he dreamed of all on the field and healthy.....then watch him work.

I get we have a mostly new O-line, but the reality is that a decent left tackle to protect his backside and Mahomes is back to picking apart defenses.

Well, if we are going by stats, Mahomes has regressed. But I expect him to bounce back.

Meh, they did the same thing a couple seasons ago, didn’t they? And I think we won the SB that year.


And just based on last season, really Baker should be ahead of Pat as well.

I think that 'guy' works for the Broncos...

I get it if we are going by Fantasy Rankings but this isn't about that....you can tell that his "recency bias" is well out front.

Well yeah. I mean, these guys are basically going by last season’s stats without regard (mostly) to their respective careers or potential. These things are largely stat driven with maybe some acknowledgment of whatever they saw and n the playoffs, right?

He drops Mahomes for one bad performance vs Philly… and yet the QB he ranks first also had a bad game vs that same Eagles team.

No logic.

LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!

QBR is meant to cut past that and not be a fantasy stat.

Mahomes has had a Top 2 defense both of the last two years. A Top 10 QB should expect to go to a SB if that is the case.

Was Dylan Mulvaney unavailable to write?

ROFL

Mahomes’ play has dipped the last couple seasons.

He needs to have a far better year if he wants to keep his crown as best QB in the league.

Chiefs Editorial Board? When you can’t bang chicks, you go for the clicks (and sharpen each others pencil).

LMAO

Let them have their summer of self flagellation

Looks like a donk fan.

Pink Bow Tie. Really? ROFL

It has , and overall the Chiefs don't have the big advantage they used to at quarterback in some matchups. I think that's primarily due to the lack of quality WR's for the most part, and especially because of the OL issues. But, when it's time to engage the clutch gene, there is no other quarterback I want other than Patrick Mahomes.

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I would care about this person's opinion if I was desperatley trying to find a pink blazer for the Kentucky Derby...football? Not so much

It’s not just LT though. It’s the whole left side of the line. People seem to think someone on the roster is gonna step in and be Thuney, and none of the people who are potentially taking his spot are even in the same stratosphere as Thuney. Now I’m not saying someone can’t step in and play great at that position, but nobody on the roster has much experience at LG. And Trey hasn’t been the Trey of the first 2 seasons, for the last 2 seasons. I’m hoping we’ve done enough to protect Mahomes.

To me the gaping hole is the Left Tackle....fix that and I think you fix the major issue and Mahomes isn't spending all his time running and looking over his shoulder.

I choose not to see things as bleakly as some do...but that doesn't mean others are incorrect in their assertions.

Ross Browning 1932 movie "Freaks" had real pin Heads in the movie.

Oh Dear Lord LMAO

This is just dumb. Not having last minute heroics wasn't the problem.

This is fair.

Those are sky high expectations.

Eat a Dick Pee Wee Herman.

The profession went from Grantland Rice to Fat Zach's boyfriend.

Tragic.

Dude gets to go home and cuddle |Zach| so I doubt he cares what we think of him

They are desperate for anyone, ANYONE to be talked about other than Mahomes.

The NFL world is suffering mightily from Mahomes burnout/fatigue. Well, tough shit, I say.

The Brady burnout was worse to me.

Mahomes is likeable. Brady isn't, wasn't, and probably never will be. Mahomes has a soul. Brady sold his to win tic tac toe.

Unfortunately for Mahomes, his ascension came right after Brady, so NFL fans are plain worn out of the unstoppable QB.

The Review Brah of Football

**** all this gay shit when u gonna pay me the money you owe me OP?

Tim Teblow

Damn Gronk has lost a lot of weight.

Looks like the kind of dude to suck dick for gas money then walk home.

Actually it looks like Mahomes trolling us with a new haircut and some manufactured motivation.

As a fellow newspaper comics reader as a kid, I am 100% with you on the Zippy thing. I remember commenting on it repeatedly and being in disbelief that it was able to be published at all. Like the guy writing it was on acid or something and didn't even know what humor was. At one point I ran into a kid at school who thought Zippy was hilarious. The kid was a complete dork who was also incapable of understanding humor or ever being funny, but I realized there are more people like him than you would think.

Clay?

He looks like a guy you throw a football to and it goes between his hands and hits him in the nose... Looks like a bleeder..

Huh?

What's this post about?

Titty Meat's jizz swished around his inner cheeks will help brighten his corncob smile by several degrees.

Pretty sure he is not referring to me....I don't owe any money to him.

If you borrow money from big Bill and don’t pay it back he takes it out on your ass. Literally

Donger?

Ok....guess I am missing the joke.

You're not missing much.

There was a handful of kids in my high school who claimed to like Zippy, and every single one of them without exception were kids who were trying to be seen as edgy and iconoclastic. They would claim that Zippy was deep in a way that most people couldn't understand. None of those people were bright or witty so that argument didn't fly at all. I think maybe Zippy survived as a comic because some syndicate buyer was the same non-bright wannabe cool person.

I made it a point to read the newspaper comics every day, and I kind of miss that. I would read every comic except maybe Mary Worth. (Seriously - a comic soap opera? Nope.). Zippy angered me because it offered no redeeming feature at all, but the drawing style would make me glance at it every day before immediately rejecting it.

The bastard son of Pee Wee Herman and Gollum

You know what's funny? And honestly, it's something I didn't really notice until stacking up the roster after the draft.

This team is probably better EVERYWHERE than it was last season.

The only argument is at S where Hicks may not duplicate what Reid gave us, though Edwards as a true FS can help a bit there and honestly even Connor, if moved back to S, can play. You could argue DT if you put any stock in the loss of Nnadi (I don't) or presume Jones will drop off (I think that happened LAST season and will actually stabilize a bit this season). Even if you believe both those things, the addition of ONL will help a fair bit and any fat body in the world can replace Nnadi.

And maybe you could argue the OL as an aggregate through the loss of Thuney at LG but the addition of Moore (and potentially Simmons) at the LT position should easily cover for that by simply getting credible play at a more important position.

WR -- better (for now; added Royals, lost nothing, room should be healthy/more experienced -- gotta avoid injury and ill-timed suspension)

RB -- MUCH better (Pacheco more healthy, addition of Mitchell and Smith)

TE -- Maybe even? Arguably better -- Kelce will not come back that out of shape. He didn't return to go out and mail it in, IMO. There's more money to be made for him outside of football. His pride won't allow what happened last year to happen again.

DEs -- Better (healthy Omenihu and Danna , addition of Gallette; lost nothing)

LBs -- better (lost nothing; added Bassa -- Chenal a year more experienced)

CBs -- better (Watson back, addition of Williams and Fulton)

This team is better than last year. This team might be a LOT better than last year. Injury is the only thing that I can see really preventing that and my word, can the injuries POSSIBLY be worse than last season?

Think whatever you want, talking heads. This is a far improved football team to last season's squad.

And last year's....wasn't too bad.

Yeah, I think the Chiefs’ improvements are flying under the casual fan/analysts’ radar.

Joe Thuney is a big loss and they won’t be better at LG over Thuney… but they WILL be better at LG than Caliendo. And better at LT than anything they got last year.

Say they’re average at LG and LT, rather than really bad at LT and elite at LG. OL as a whole is going to be better.

They will be better at WR. I think they actually may be better at S (Conner can be effective in the box role, Hicks is a better pass defender than Reid). Big improvements at CB (especially in the slot). Legit option at WLB/covering TEs (may take some time to come along for Bassa, but he’s bright and was the signal caller for Oregon’s defense, which is not vanilla). More explosion in the room at RB.

People are overlooking how much injuries (WRs, Jaylen Watson) affected KC last year. And that’s fine.

Going to make the redemption run that much better.

Well said, though I think you under value Nnadi. After the SB and looking back at everything, I came to the conclusion that this team, with all of the injuries and condition it was in by the end of the season, should not have gotten very far in the playoffs. I would argue that Mahomes is so good that he was able to carry the team much further than should have been possible.

I am with you but with the caveat that we don't know for sure that LG will be better than Caliendo. I think it will be but Kingsley has much to prove.

Nnadi has been a league minimum player for 3 straight years.

He wasn't technically PAID the league minimum the last 2 years, but because we got him with the VSB, he was a league minimum cap charge for us.

No team, in three seasons, has been willing to pay him more than the absolute minimum for a player with his amount of experience.

I'm not sure where that puts him in relation to where I value him, but it sure seems to say that the league doesn't value him very much.

And they shouldn't. Because he's not good at football. At all.

This is true but we don't play in a vacuum. Have the Eagles also improved? Although it's a different Conference, they might be our biggest competitors right now. Baltimore/Buffalo probably got better too but they were already behind the Chiefs.

Stat wise. I am okay with that.
Win wise? ****ing crazy.
Pat so far has come back with a vengeance after losses.

insert Mahomes taking notes gif.

The Eagles lost Williams, Sweat, Becton and Slay. Even losing Isaiah Rodgers is a blow for them.

I'd say they held serve, for the most part. At best.

No, I don't think the Eagles improved.

Didn't the Eagles have a successful draft by all accounts? Obviously the games haven't been played yet but it appears they did fairly well on their picks.

It’s amazing that people don’t ask these naysayers a simple question. Is Andy, Mahomes, Spags and Veach still there? Bc those guys are all top 3 at what they do, at worst.

There isn’t a better staff in the league and last year continued to prove it. Chiefs had the worst LT situation by far and 3 of their 4 top young weapons were out 90% of the season.

This team had Justin Watson as WR1 for a month before acquiring Hopkins. They had a slow undrafted RB start a game for them, a RB literally off the couch start for them, lost Watson, only had 21 sacks in their first 11 games bc Omenihu and Danna were hurt.

This staff improvised and made all of that work with their starters going 17-1 leading up to the SB. How many staffs can do that?

And now the personnel staff gets multiple LT’s, multiple pass rushers, multiple RB’s with elite explosion, multiple outside corners, another nice WR prospect and more depth.

I don’t give a shit what Denver or LAC or the Bills or anyone else did. The Chiefs are one of the most improved teams. I’m not picking anyone over them to go back to the SB.

The Eagles ALWAYS have successful draft according to the draft guys because they just sit back and pick the guy at the top of the consensus boards.

But ultimately I think they got Campbell to replace Sweat (good pick) and then....eh. I think Mukuba is fine. Then it's just a bunch of 3rd day flyers who I don't like any better than the guys we got. I think Cameron Williams was a heck of a pick that late but it also appears that I'm wrong -- he wasn't even the first OT they took in the 6th round.

No -- their draft didn't move the need for me much. They're just getting jerked off for taking Campbell at 31 when draftheads thought he'd go top 15. They do that every season with the highest rated Alabama or Georgia defender on the consensus big boards. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it don't.

They did. They, like the Ravens, always seem to draft well.

Well, actually, yes they can ... in a very specific way that we won't talk about.

But if that happens, we'll likely have a decently high draft slot in 2026. :)

"We don't practice '****ed'"

Just an all-time quote.

What injuries?

We were one of the healthiest teams going into the playoffs last season. We didn't have Rice, but his injury caused Veach to obtain Hopkins/Juju. Hunt was signed because Pacheco got hurt. The left tackle fiasco was unrelated to injuries. Brown, Pacheco, and Watson returned for the playoffs.

We've been fairly lucky with injuries throughout this run. Which is probably why we've had this run. You need that luck with injuries to keep winning every year.