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Originally Posted by Buehler445
No. It's not a price issue. [rant] It is a function of me being absolutely skeptical of anything "organic", "all natural", "naturally raised", etc.
You can think what you want, but the difference between organic corn and BT corn is one fully digestible protein. One protein. There is a good bit of organic corn grown here and a shitton of organic wheat. I've ate organic corn off the combine. I've ate organic wheat off the combine. It's the same shit. It tastes the same. There is an organic mill here. I've ate their products, flour, corn chips, etc. It's the same.
By the same token, I've seen what they grow. Most guys around here run a wheat-sorghum-fallow rotation, while the organic guys run wheat-fallow rotation and their wheat is probably 1/2 of standard production and there is no sorghum crop. On the corn, I've watched those goofy ****ers plow water into irrigated corn to yield 30 bu/acre, all the while I'm growing 200 bushel corn on a lot less water. Moreover, their crops are always N deficient. Every time. There is no way to get sufficient N for a cereal grain crop organically.
All that inefficiency leads to EXACTLY the same product. Do you know how they certify organic? It isn't like protein grades, testweight grades, starch content, TDN, any of those. Those are based on the seed. They certify organic by taking the producers word for it that they used no commercial fertilizers or herbicides. That is because there is no way to test organic cereals from commercially raised. All the while, GMO products are the most scrutinized foods available. And herbicides/chemicals are ridiculously regulated. If there was any way for the FDA to butt**** Monsanto/Syngenta/DuPont/Bayer by denying their products market access, they're going to do it.
So from my perspective, it is a bunch of ****ing hokum. And then I get mental midgets telling me that all commercial grain production should switch to organic BECUZ IT AR GUDER. And those same jackasses want to tell me it will work everywhere, when I watch dudes that have been doing it for decades **** off almost all the resources at their disposal for meager production.
So no. I'm not going to go rush out and spend $2/bag extra for cheetos because they have organic cornmeal.
I admittedly don't know anything about all natural, but it is almost always in conjunction with Non-GMO and organic bullshit, which is just ****ing magic fairy dust.
I understand whole foods/unprocessed foods, and on the whole, I agree with that. But excuse me if I'm not going to rush right out and jump on the organic/non-GMO/All natural bullshit bandwagon.
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But those cheetos don't taste the same. That means something is different in the recipe. Could be the msg since it's a flavor enhancer used but a natural brand wouldn't touch. What you like is another matter entirely. Organic has more nutrients.
I am not asking you to change anything. Never did. This was a poll and I posted about what I liked and ate, and why. You challenged it as bogus opening the debate claiming they were identical.
The bottom line still is, that brand being called "natural" is totally worthy of that description based on the kind of ingredients in it which are not identical to the other brand.
Even if just the added MSG. That's why I examined the list and posted about it.
Don't get me wrong, lots of commercial foods do toss around the word "natural" when it really isn't what would be expected. I have had to read labels due to food allergies and hidden ingredients.