Late Night Bullshit, Vol. 1: Eric Berry just might be good at football.

[Direckshun]

Pretty awesome read on one of CP's favorite topics: whether Eric Berry is good at football.

What do you guys think?

http://footballsavages.com/2014/02/1...st-understood/

The NFL’s Most Underappreciated/rated Player – and Least Understood
Posted by jinxallessio
February 11, 2014

Eric Berry is not Ronnie Lott, Eric Berry is not Rod Woodson, Eric Berry is not Kendrick Lewis, Eric Berry is not Earl Thomas. You know who Eric Berry is, and well it’s elementary – he is Eric Berry. The 5th overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Fifth Dimension; Eric Berry brings a dimension to the Kansas City Chiefs defense that cannot be seen from the highest of definitions. The impact Eric has on the Chiefs defense goes well beyond your typical tackle, sack, INT statistical analysis. Valuable is defined as something of considerable use, service, or importance. One could argue Eric may be one of the most valuable players in the NFL.

Truly understanding Eric’s use, service and importance must first start with painting the picture of who he is. Traditional archaic positional definitions of our granddaddy’s football automatically devalues Berry. Start over, remove the idea of a free safety and strong safety from your mind, a tabula rasa. This is no slight of Earl Thomas, Jairus Byrd, Reshad Jones, Eric Weddle, Donte Whitner, Mark Barron, Devin McCourty or Kam Chancellor as they fit one of those vintage definitions one way or the other. They have very defined roles and responsibilities based on the definitions of the position they are in. Eric, on the other hand is put in a position where he is the defining factor of those roles and responsibilities.

The first knock on someone’s football intelligence quotient is to claim Eric is a liability in coverage. His coverage limitations are degraded not because of his actual performance on the field but because what is expected of a safety. As stated earlier, erase your thoughts of the expectations and of the outdated definition. According to our good friends at ProFootballFocus Eric Berry was the highest thrown at safety in the NFL. Quarterbacks threw at him a total of 63 times. While being thrown at the most in the NFL Eric only gave up 37 receptions and QB rating while throwing at him was good for 18th lowest out of the top 86 safeties and 3rd best in coverage by safeties as graded by the same source previously mentioned. Those are stats, a good baseline in comparing the players in a vacuum. Nothing of note in the statistical analysis proves he is a liability in covering, when asked to.

A strong safety spends most of his snaps either moving forward, spending a majority of his time within a certain yardage of the line of scrimmage and is commonly the player that supports the run/underneath pass game. These players are typically bigger than free safeties but smaller than most weakside linebackers. Statistical analysis really shows that Eric is an above average in run support, rarely a missed tackle, has the ability to fill gaps and shed blocks. Also, highly regarded for his instincts, awareness and closing speed.

The most underrated part of Eric’s game is his ability to rush the passer. How often are safeties asked to rush the passer? Defensive coordinators have a few plays asking for a safety to blitz or rush the passer. Eric was asked to rush the passer the most times out of safeties in 2013, he also lead safeties in sacks, pressures, and hurries. Eric was often asked to rush the passer in obvious and not so obvious passing downs. A key to an offense is being to execute consistent while being unpredictable. That is also what made Eric so successful at rushing the passer. Who has a safety rush the passer on average of 4 times a game? He averaged at least one pressure a game. Only a few 4-3 OLBs had averaged more than 1 pressure per game.

While watching Eric I am constantly at awe. One play he could be covering one of the oppositions top targets blanketing a tight end on a 10 yard out forcing a incompletion, the next play he could be lining up a weak inside linebacker blitzing and causing the QB to feel uncomfortable forcing an early inaccurate throw, then the next play filling an A gap on a half back dive which allows Derrick Johnson to scrap his block and make a tackle near the line of scrimmage. You rarely see Eric asked to play centerfield which is where a safety gets a lot of his glory. Reading, reacting and just making the right break, the right time to get an interception or getting a pass break up. You cannot discount a player for the lack of being asked to do something and then saying he is not good at it. I am not good a tight rope walking, but I have never tried it – does that make me terrible at it?(most likely yes)

A player’s worth is defined by the impact he makes not the position he plays. Eric was not only targeted the most out of any safety but also rushed the passer the most. He was also asked to be a major contributor on run defense. I don’t know what position Eric Berry plays but what ever he is asked to do, what ever role you define for him – no one does it better, and it’s not close.

[KCrockaholic]

The fact that this is even a debate or ever was, proves how stupid this fanbase is.

[Rausch]

You give a monkey a machine gun and he'll still just dig termites out of the ground....

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I don't see many if any who say he is not

[chefsos]

Writers should never address the subjects of their articles by first names. Devalues even the strongest of points and makes it read like a sixth grade book report.

[Ragged Robin]

Originally Posted by chefsos

Writers should never address the subjects of their articles by first names. Devalues even the strongest of points and makes it read like a sixth grade book report.

"Valuable is defined as something of considerable use, service, or importance."

Wouldn't be surprised if a 6th grader did write it

[TimBone]

Anybody who denies the kids abilities is a moron.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Flybone McTimmerson

Anybody who denies the kids abilities is a moron.

I honestly don't remember who, but there were 2-3 not very long ago at all who were truly ready to SEND HIM PACKIN, DUDE SUCKS.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Flybone McTimmerson

Anybody who denies the kids abilities is a moron.

Anybody who makes such an effort in an attempt to defend a guy who's been to two Pro Bowls and was the highest safety drafted since 1991 is really trying too ****ing hard and brings to light the deficiencies in Berry's game versus elevates him as the "author" intended.

Anyway, Berry is thrown at more than any other safety because teams know he's capable of being beaten. That's why they throw at you. They know they've got a good or better shot of being successful and until Berry shores up that facet of his game, they'll keep going at him.

Right now, he's more reminiscent of the other top five pick at the safety position LaRon Landry than he is Ronnie Lott. He's a very good player, but he's very good in a limited scope as a defensive back. And it's his liability in the passing game that's put a lot of pressure on our CB's and even Kendrick Lewis, who teams have put on an island as they know Berry is basically playing the third linebacker spot versus being able to get into the deep part of the field and be effective.

And "The Fifth Dimension?" Who comes up with this shit?

[Direckshun]

The piece has a really awesome pic of Berry, too:

[Saccopoo]

What this "article" really did was make me miss this guy:

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Anybody who makes such an effort in an attempt to defend a guy who's been to two Pro Bowls and was the highest safety drafted since 1991 is really trying too ****ing hard and brings to light the deficiencies in Berry's game versus elevates him as the "author" intended.

Anyway, Berry is thrown at more than any other safety because teams know he's capable of being beaten. That's why they throw at you. They know they've got a good or better shot of being successful and until Berry shores up that facet of his game, they'll keep going at him.

Right now, he's more reminiscent of the other top five pick at the safety position LaRon Landry than he is Ronnie Lott. He's a very good player, but he's very good in a limited scope as a defensive back. And it's his liability in the passing game that's put a lot of pressure on our CB's and even Kendrick Lewis, who teams have put on an island as they know Berry is basically playing the third linebacker spot versus being able to get into the deep part of the field and be effective.

And "The Fifth Dimension?" Who comes up with this shit?

LaRon Landry?

LaRon Landry?

Stop. Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Eric Berry's talents seemingly have no precedent. What he is asked to do, and how often he does it, and how well he does it, well...

The best I can do is say he's a smaller, more athletic Rodney Harrison.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

The best I can do is say he's a smaller, more athletic Rodney Harrison.

not bad, not bad at all.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by scott free

not bad, not bad at all.

Berry was just a special talent coming out of Tennessee. There were/are no holes in his game (he's lined up at CB at least once in 2013), his character and intelligence were/are through the roof, and he was/is a rare athlete with 4.3 speed carrying 215 pounds.

He's just ridiculous. He was thrown at over 60 times and ended up in the 3rd best coverage score amongst safeties, while blowing everybody away in passrushing and doing a damn good job in run support.

We got the guy we thought we were getting.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Berry was just a special talent coming out of Tennessee. There were/are no holes in his game (he's lined up at CB at least once in 2013), his character and intelligence were/are through the roof, and he was/is a rare athlete with 4.3 speed carrying 215 pounds.

He's just ridiculous. He was thrown at over 60 times and ended up in the 3rd best coverage score amongst safeties, while blowing everybody away in passrushing and doing a damn good job in run support.

We got the guy we thought we were getting.

I usually agree with Sacc, but yeah... I'm satisfied with Eric Berry, there isn't anything he doesn't do well.

That doesn't mean he's #1 in every single facet, but he's damn good at all of them.