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Old 12-21-2024, 02:20 AM   #1
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I would much prefer an Auction House but this is the next best thing.

No it's not bait, that dude made my favorite Diablo 4 builds.




I never heard of that guy and I'm always weary of videos like that and it looked like he was about to die in lower tier maps but if you trust him. I usually analyze poeninja for builds but I don't think there is one for poe2 yet.

A lot of youtubers with POE1 would do bait videos showing a clip of them killing a boss quickly and the build would be terrible to try and do yourself. But there are plenty of good build makers too. That build looks like it has potential though, that's some serious single target damage even if it's lower tier.

And ya the way trade is on this is pretty annoying, an auction house would be awesome but GGG would never do that. They want it to be annoying to trade, that's their 'vision.' Console has a trade market, which is almost an auction house but the seller has to accept and not instant buyout. Lots of price fixing with that set up though but still way more convenient to sell stuff.
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Old 12-21-2024, 07:33 AM   #2
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How deep into end game are you though? In his game play clips hes doing mid tier maps because he's got X/8 tier 9/10/11 maps completed and he's getting absolutely chunked. Like every pack he's getting hit 1 time for about a third of his ES. There's a lot of builds that bait you in like that but then when you get to true end game it turns into a 500 death build and progression stops.

There's only a few build makers I trust in PoE. #1 is Ruetoo, imo. The thing with Ruetoo is that he's a very popular build maker and one of the top streamers so if you are coming in late on one of his builds that he is playing then everything is going to sky rocket in price, so you either get in early or you use a different build of his he isn't currently playing. Then the high end HC racers like Jungroan make pretty safe builds.
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I never heard of that guy and I'm always weary of videos like that and it looked like he was about to die in lower tier maps but if you trust him. I usually analyze poeninja for builds but I don't think there is one for poe2 yet.

A lot of youtubers with POE1 would do bait videos showing a clip of them killing a boss quickly and the build would be terrible to try and do yourself. But there are plenty of good build makers too. That build looks like it has potential though, that's some serious single target damage even if it's lower tier.

And ya the way trade is on this is pretty annoying, an auction house would be awesome but GGG would never do that. They want it to be annoying to trade, that's their 'vision.' Console has a trade market, which is almost an auction house but the seller has to accept and not instant buyout. Lots of price fixing with that set up though but still way more convenient to sell stuff.
I'm not sure he knows much about POE other than what he's picked up but this guy makes some of the more fun overpowered builds for D4. That's all I was saying, but I will certainly look around before I commit to something. He almost always plays sorcerers or mages, it's his passion in these games although he did do Spiritborn when D4 xpac launched just because it was so overpowered compared to other classes.

I'm more or less waiting to see if someone finds a great OP cold based build as I prefer that because it freezes and slows enemies. Maybe it won't happen after the Comet nerf but we shall see.
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Old 12-22-2024, 10:03 PM   #3
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A lot of youtubers with POE1 would do bait videos showing a clip of them killing a boss quickly and the build would be terrible to try and do yourself. But there are plenty of good build makers too. That build looks like it has potential though, that's some serious single target damage even if it's lower tier.
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Reminds me of the The First Descendants 1000 youtubers that show you a "boss killing" build and pick the 1 Kaiju that has like 1/10th of the HP to show you. Take DOWN Devourer in 5 seconds! Most of those builds are pure trash and you have lots of small guys trying to make names for themselves on build vids.
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Old 12-23-2024, 08:28 PM   #4
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one thing he missed was be careful with the trade site. It's valuing divines at about 5 exalts (they are worth about 70) so it's showing them ahead of things priced 7-10 exalts. I did lose about 40 exalts paying a div for a greater jeweler orb because of that and now I know to sort by exalted orbs.

The currency exchange is nice, nobody used it on console and I like getting instantly paid.
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one thing he missed was be careful with the trade site. It's valuing divines at about 5 exalts (they are worth about 70) so it's showing them ahead of things priced 7-10 exalts. I did lose about 40 exalts paying a div for a greater jeweler orb because of that and now I know to sort by exalted orbs.

The currency exchange is nice, nobody used it on console and I like getting instantly paid.
Still hoping for an Auction house but I doubt it happens.

Also updated the Sorc build a few hours ago

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Still hoping for an Auction house but I doubt it happens.

Also updated the Sorc build a few hours ago

people have been wanting an AH for so long, I don't think they'll ever do it. They have said publicly that they want trading to be hard otherwise they think it's too easy to get geared.

I'm sort of following captain lances version only not even close to the gear that he has. There's a lot of min maxing you can do with this type of build and I'm rolling through the end game maps at level 92 but with some upgrades changed I could quadruple my damage. Just grinding currency right now and trying to level. Still haven't seen the citadels for the end game bosses though
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people have been wanting an AH for so long, I don't think they'll ever do it. They have said publicly that they want trading to be hard otherwise they think it's too easy to get geared.

I'm sort of following captain lances version only not even close to the gear that he has. There's a lot of min maxing you can do with this type of build and I'm rolling through the end game maps at level 92 but with some upgrades changed I could quadruple my damage. Just grinding currency right now and trying to level. Still haven't seen the citadels for the end game bosses though
I'm kinda bummed that this realm doesn't matter. I heard before EA launch that this realm would end up the normal realm stuff. Now I heard it will have it's own EA category so none of this really matters.
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The game is going to be so different to what it is now by the time it officially launches that the characters you built now will be invalid. Happens usually 4 times a year w/ fresh start economy reset. Get used to it.
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The game is going to be so different to what it is now by the time it officially launches that the characters you built now will be invalid. Happens usually 4 times a year w/ fresh start economy reset. Get used to it.
oh I'm definitely used to it. This is a beta afterall, I'm gonna be sad when they nerf archmage but I'll just start a new character. Looking forward to seeing what they do with leagues this time around and what goes core or if they take a different approach. I think they regretted making everything go core for the first several years because there was a lot of power creep. I'm probably going to refrain from min maxing this any further and just save my currency. They are off until the holiday's end because they are in New Zealand so after that I'm expecting my build to get the nerf. I think almost half of the playerbase is doing this build too
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Will there be wipes during Early Access?

No, there will not be a wipe. We will do new leagues but none of your characters will be wiped, they will just go to a league called Early Access (so they will never be in Standard). In some cases characters in old leagues might be somewhat broken by balance changes though. After launch the "Early Access" characters will still exist.


I don't know why they care about standard. They never used to but over the past year or two they started nerfing things and didn't let them go legacy. Standard should be all of the OP shit that people have collected during the years IMO. So that is kind of dumb. But it's not that big of a deal, the leagues are where it's at and you should give them a try.
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No, there will not be a wipe. We will do new leagues but none of your characters will be wiped, they will just go to a league called Early Access (so they will never be in Standard). In some cases characters in old leagues might be somewhat broken by balance changes though. After launch the "Early Access" characters will still exist.


I don't know why they care about standard. They never used to but over the past year or two they started nerfing things and didn't let them go legacy. Standard should be all of the OP shit that people have collected during the years IMO. So that is kind of dumb. But it's not that big of a deal, the leagues are where it's at and you should give them a try.
I'm not going to waste 50 hours going through the campaign every season, just incredibly boring to me. I don't care to race to get stuff on the ladder never been my thing in gaming. Like Frazod said gaming is me time, I don't care about trophies or anything but fun time. Might as well just call it a roguelike than an RPG tbh.
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I'm not going to waste 50 hours going through the campaign every season, just incredibly boring to me. I don't care to race to get stuff on the ladder never been my thing in gaming. Like Frazod said gaming is me time, I don't care about trophies or anything but fun time. Might as well just call it a roguelike than an RPG tbh.
I get it, personally I love starting fresh every few months. Plus this is the only game I still like, no other game scratches any itch for me anymore.
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Another thing that bothers me about this game is playing coop I can do most of the killing and get next to zero drops. Why not just let everyone have their own loot? With the Level scaling bullshit it totally discourages group/coop play. Really makes no sense why they do it this way whatsoever.


Also why not let me use mouse/kb AND gamepad at the same time? Why do i have to logout to do that? Diablo 4 you can use either at any time. Tedious doing inventory tetris with an effin controller.


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Another thing that bothers me about this game is playing coop I can do most of the killing and get next to zero drops. Why not just let everyone have their own loot? With the Level scaling bullshit it totally discourages group/coop play. Really makes no sense why they do it this way whatsoever.


Also why not let me use mouse/kb AND gamepad at the same time? Why do i have to logout to do that? Diablo 4 you can use either at any time. Tedious doing inventory tetris with an effin controller.


You gotta stop watching this guy and watch some seasoned POE content creators. He is not good, nor does he give good advice.
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