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pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-21-2015, 07:11 PM

This is an idea that's really been going through my head, especially with the Jah Reid re-signing. I think Reid may be provided some camp competition, but I believe they plan to start him next year. Which brings me to this question...

What do you want the FO to do with the rest of our upcoming FAs?

Roughly 31 million in cap space right now and 6 of that goes to draft picks. 25 million left, with potential to go up a couple million via cuts.

Personally, as of this day, I consider Berry, DJ, and Howard must keeps. These guys are playing at their highest levels and they don't have any true potential replacements on the surface. It will be costly to do so as well.

Then, I think if Tamba wants to truly be a Chief for life, you try to bring him back at a discount and hopefully Ford is ready to take over at least half the downs.

I think Marcus Peters' emergence and potential makes Sean Smith the most expendable of the class. If he can grow into the top 10, top 5 corner he can truly be, they need to save the cash here. (Though they likely won't have enough anyway)

Would also like to keep either Abdullah or Branch with the $ left at that point.

Keep in mind-- Kelce, Poe and Fisher are all due the following year and while Fisher will likely receive a 1st round tender for 2017, the other two will command nice contracts as well.

The Chiefs deep talent pool has created a nice problem, and one that fortunately we can wait a little longer to delve into as the 2015 season rolls along. Nonetheless, tough decisions are ahead and I'd like to see what different individuals want to take place.

In the meantime, go Chieeeeeeeeeeefssssssss

RunKC · 12-22-2015, 12:43 AM

If Jeff Allen is broken, why would we try to bring him back cheap? Why even at all if that's the case?

Geoff Schwartz and Branden Albert are both broke dicks who we let other teams overpay in free agency and replaced with draft picks. I can easily see that happening with Jeff Allen this spring.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-22-2015, 12:44 AM

Andy told Gannon and Kevin Harlan in their production meetings Saturday that he feels LDT is playing the best of any offensive lineman right now for him.

Alas, your future RG

BryanBusby · 12-22-2015, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The best thing about Dorsey is that he's always looking to upgrade the roster, regardless of the position.

Outside of Fisher and Morse, I don't think anyone's job is safe.

I'd suppose it comes down to how they stack needs and what they can get value wise.

I could see them making upgrades on the line, but also feeling okay if it doesn't happen.

Maybe I am being a little too generous, but Fulton hasn't looked terrible at LG to me.

BryanBusby · 12-22-2015, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

If Jeff Allen is broken, why would we try to bring him back cheap? Why even at all if that's the case?

Geoff Schwartz and Branden Albert are both broke dicks who we let other teams overpay in free agency and replaced with draft picks. I can easily see that happening with Jeff Allen this spring.

At a good rate, Allen is a very nice rotation guy and the durability isn't as concerning if he isn't starting.

Schwartz and Albert wanted starting pay, and I am sure Allen will also be looking for the same.

ChiefAshhole1056 · 12-22-2015, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

You keep JC....he's one of the best RBs I've ever seen. Now if Berry was the second coming of Ronnie Lott...or Ed Reed...he was billed as such but he's not at that level..getting paid like it though.

If KC decides to move Charles..there will be 31 teams inquiring.

He's my personal favorite Chief of all-time, I also think he's top 10 ever talent-wise. But right now, his presence aren't as beneficial to the team as Berry is. Berry is the heart and soul of the team right now, and Charles' production is being replicated with two non-draft picks.

I personally want him to go somewhere else to a more reputable team like the Pats or Panthers so the national media will give him some love and more people can see the greatness we have been blessed to witness the past 8 years. Just have to be ok with accepting less in a trade for him than what he's really worth.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-22-2015, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I'd suppose it comes down to how they stack needs and what they can get value wise.

I could see them making upgrades on the line, but also feeling okay if it doesn't happen.

Maybe I am being a little too generous, but Fulton hasn't looked terrible at LG to me.

I kind of feel like a broken record but i can't understand why the line isn't Fisher/Morse/Fulton/LDT/ then a free agent or draft choice.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-22-2015, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I kind of feel like a broken record but i can't understand why the line isn't Fisher/Morse/Fulton/LDT/ then a free agent or draft choice.

It's kinda odd but Fulton is miles better as a center than as a guard.

BryanBusby · 12-22-2015, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I kind of feel like a broken record but i can't understand why the line isn't Fisher/Morse/Fulton/LDT/ then a free agent or draft choice.

That would be the best choice, really.

I think that line up with Mitchell Schwartz at RT would be a good ass line.

BlackOp · 12-22-2015, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056

He's my personal favorite Chief of all-time, I also think he's top 10 ever talent-wise. But right now, his presence aren't as beneficial to the team as Berry is. Berry is the heart and soul of the team right now, and Charles' production is being replicated with two non-draft picks.
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You could say the same about Berry..his production can be met by his back-ups. This is about next season..not 2015. His story is a great one but it's pinned to this season.

I think "Berry is the heart and soul" of this team a bit idealistic. They arent winning because of his pep speeches..they are winning because Dorsey is a rockstar at building depth. Berry hasn't made very many game changing plays... I would say DJ and Tamba are equally a steadying presence in the locker room...along with Reid.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-22-2015, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

If Jeff Allen is broken, why would we try to bring him back cheap? Why even at all if that's the case?

A vet minimum contract with incentives for each game played would be ideal for Allen.

If he can't play another game this season, it's unlikely he could find a better deal elsewhere.

-King- · 12-22-2015, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

You could say the same about Berry..his production can be met by his back-ups. This is about next season..not 2015. His story is a great one but it's pinned to this season.

I think "Berry is the heart and soul" of this team a bit idealistic. They arent winning because of his pep speeches..they are winning because Dorsey is a rockstar at building depth. Berry hasn't made very many game changing plays... I would say DJ and Tamba are equally a steadying presence in the locker room...along with Reid.

Berry is one of the 3 best safeties in the league this season. We wouldn't be as good without his run defense and pass coverage.
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Direckshun · 12-22-2015, 06:18 AM

You guys trying to move Morse from a position he's good at to accommodate an iffy player are no different than Reid for moving Fisher to RT for Stephenson.

**ShortRoundChief** · 12-22-2015, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

You keep JC....he's one of the best RBs I've ever seen. Now if Berry was the second coming of Ronnie Lott...or Ed Reed...he was billed as such but he's not at that level..getting paid like it though.

If KC decides to move Charles..there will be 31 teams inquiring.

Of course they would, for next to nothing. You don't get much for a 30 year old running back with an acl in both knees. It doesn't matter what he had prior to.

Mother****erJones · 12-22-2015, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Andy told Gannon and Kevin Harlan in their production meetings Saturday that he feels LDT is playing the best of any offensive lineman right now for him.

Alas, your future RG

That means nothing really to be honest. He's just talking up his player IMO. LDT is not playing better than Morse, Allen or Fisher.

**RealSNR** · 12-22-2015, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Andy told Gannon and Kevin Harlan in their production meetings Saturday that he feels LDT is playing the best of any offensive lineman right now for him.

Alas, your future RG

LDT deserves the RG spot next year. He's getting better.

Somewhere along the way, morons like you forgot that it takes time for players to get really good. If they had their way, we would have given up on Allen Bailey, Jaye Howard, Derrick Johnson, among others on our current team. And that's not even counting players like Dante Hall, Brian Waters, and Tony Richardson from past teams.

LDT played football at ****ing McGill. He may as well have been playing a ****ing completely different sport for ****'s sake. Quit your bitching and give him a goddamn chance. He's currently playing at an adequate level with the occasional glaring mistake. Those will be eliminated in due time.

12-21-2015, 07:11 PM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6629447	What do you want the Chiefs to do with their FAs? This is an idea that's really been going through my head, especially with the Jah Reid re-signing. I think Reid may be provided some camp competition, but I believe they plan to start him next year. Which brings me to this question... What do you want the FO to do with the rest of our upcoming FAs? Roughly 31 million in cap space right now and 6 of that goes to draft picks. 25 million left, with potential to go up a couple million via cuts. Personally, as of this day, I consider Berry, DJ, and Howard must keeps. These guys are playing at their highest levels and they don't have any true potential replacements on the surface. It will be costly to do so as well. Then, I think if Tamba wants to truly be a Chief for life, you try to bring him back at a discount and hopefully Ford is ready to take over at least half the downs. I think Marcus Peters' emergence and potential makes Sean Smith the most expendable of the class. If he can grow into the top 10, top 5 corner he can truly be, they need to save the cash here. (Though they likely won't have enough anyway) Would also like to keep either Abdullah or Branch with the $ left at that point. Keep in mind-- Kelce, Poe and Fisher are all due the following year and while Fisher will likely receive a 1st round tender for 2017, the other two will command nice contracts as well. The Chiefs deep talent pool has created a nice problem, and one that fortunately we can wait a little longer to delve into as the 2015 season rolls along. Nonetheless, tough decisions are ahead and I'd like to see what different individuals want to take place. In the meantime, go Chieeeeeeeeeeefssssssss
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1540389	If Jeff Allen is broken, why would we try to bring him back cheap? Why even at all if that's the case? Geoff Schwartz and Branden Albert are both broke dicks who we let other teams overpay in free agency and replaced with draft picks. I can easily see that happening with Jeff Allen this spring.
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