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Mr. Laz · 02-07-2014, 06:48 PM

A beginning or the beginning of the end?

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World's first GM babies born
The world's first genetically modified humans have been created, it was revealed last night.

The disclosure that 30 healthy babies were born after a series of experiments in the United States provoked another furious debate about ethics.

So far, two of the babies have been tested and have been found
to contain genes from three 'parents'.

Fifteen of the children were born in the past three years as a result of one experimental programme at the Institute for Reproductive Medicine and Science of St Barnabas in New Jersey.

The babies were born to women who had problems conceiving. Extra genes from a female donor were inserted into their eggs before they were fertilised in an attempt to enable them to conceive.

Genetic fingerprint tests on two one-year- old children confirm that they have inherited DNA from three adults --two women and one man.

The fact that the children have inherited the extra genes and incorporated them into their 'germline' means that they will, in turn, be able to pass them on to their own offspring.

Altering the human germline - in effect tinkering with the very make-up of our species - is a technique shunned by the vast majority of the world's scientists.Geneticists fear that one day this method could be used to create new races of humans with extra, desired characteristics such as strength or high intelligence.

Writing in the journal Human Reproduction, the researchers, led by fertility pioneer Professor Jacques Cohen, say that this 'is the first case of human germline genetic modification resulting in normal healthy children'.

Some experts severely criticised the experiments.

Lord Winston, of the Hammersmith Hospital in West London, told the BBC yesterday: 'Regarding the treat-ment of the infertile, there is no evidence that this technique is worth doing . . . I am very surprised that it was even carried out at this stage. It would certainly not be allowed in Britain.'

John Smeaton, national director of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children, said: 'One has tremendous sympathy for couples who suffer infertility problems. But this seems to be a further illustration of the fact that the whole process of in vitro fertilisation as a means of conceiving babies leads to babies being regarded as objects on a production line.

'It is a further and very worrying step down the wrong road for humanity.'
Professor Cohen and his colleagues diagnosed that the women were infertile because they had defects in tiny structures in their egg cells, called mitochondria.

They took eggs from donors and, using a fine needle, sucked some of the internal material - containing 'healthy' mitochondria - and injected it into eggs from the women wanting to conceive.

Because mitochondria contain genes, the babies resulting from the treatment have inherited DNA from both women. These genes can now be passed down the germline along the maternal line.

A spokesman for the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA), which regulates 'assisted reproduction' technology in Britain, said that it would not license the technique here because it involved altering the germline.

Jacques Cohen is regarded as a brilliant but controversial scientist who has pushed the boundaries of assisted reproduction technologies.

He developed a technique which allows infertile men to have their own children, by injecting sperm DNA straight into the egg in the lab.
Prior to this, only infertile women were able to conceive using IVF.
Last year, Professor Cohen said that his expertise would allow him to clone children --a prospect treated with horror by the mainstream scientific community.

'It would be an afternoon's work for one of my students,' he said, adding that he had been approached by 'at least three' individuals wishing to create a cloned child, but had turned down their requests.

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listopencil · 02-07-2014, 11:02 PM

That whole Holocaust thing really gets to me, man. Some of my moms were Jewish.

Hamwallet · 02-07-2014, 11:23 PM

Lord Winston, of the Hammersmith Hospital in West London, told the BBC yesterday: 'Regarding the treat-ment of the infertile, there is no evidence that this technique is worth doing . . . I am very surprised that it was even carried out at this stage. It would certainly not be allowed in Britain.'

Anyone else find it ironic that someone with the title "Lord" doesn't want babies that might be superior to him created?

**ShortRoundChief** · 02-07-2014, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

That whole Holocaust thing really gets to me, man. Some of my moms were Jewish.

I can honestly say in all my life that I've not met a single person who is an openly Jewish person like portrayed on TV. Not one.

I've met the Jehovah's Witnesses, an ass ton of Baptists, Catholics and Methodists but not a single Jewish person.

Where the **** are they?

Scooter LaCanforno · 02-08-2014, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Pull

I can honestly say in all my life that I've not met a single person who is an openly Jewish person like portrayed on TV. Not one.

I've met the Jehovah's Witnesses, an ass ton of Baptists, Catholics and Methodists but not a single Jewish person.

Where the **** are they?

What exactly do you mean by openly Jewish person like portrayed on TV ?
Can you give some examples?

**notorious** · 02-08-2014, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Pull

I can honestly say in all my life that I've not met a single person who is an openly Jewish person like portrayed on TV. Not one.

I've met the Jehovah's Witnesses, an ass ton of Baptists, Catholics and Methodists but not a single Jewish person.

Where the **** are they?

It appears that you live in BFE SE Kansas.

There is your answer.

Go to a city in the NE.

GloryDayz · 02-08-2014, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Pull

I can honestly say in all my life that I've not met a single person who is an openly Jewish person like portrayed on TV. Not one.

I've met the Jehovah's Witnesses, an ass ton of Baptists, Catholics and Methodists but not a single Jewish person.

Where the **** are they?

OK, this made me laugh. I had to re-read... Me thinkst there's some word-play going on, or you live in this part of Kansas.

BlackHelicopters · 02-08-2014, 08:46 AM

Not really new news.

Brock · 02-08-2014, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooter LaCanforno

What exactly do you mean by openly Jewish person like portrayed on TV ?
Can you give some examples?

Psychiatrist

GloryDayz · 02-08-2014, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

Psychiatrist

Jesus Christ!!!!

Wait......

Halfcan · 02-08-2014, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant

Kahhhhhhnnnn......

seriously. I have no problem with this. We are quickening our evolution.
Done correctly you could condition humans to live elsewhere. Travel the stars. Live in harsher conditions on earth.

Hell. Eventually you could become gods.

will be interesting 20 years from now if the modified humans become prevalent how religion will alter their stance on history or take credit.

Or modify them not to wear pajamas and Crocs in Walmarts when they are shopping.

stevieray · 02-08-2014, 09:55 AM

[QUOTE=Valiant;10419794]

Hell. Eventually you could become gods.
/QUOTE]
...where I have heard this before?

not water, but fire next time!

**Bowser** · 02-08-2014, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp

Gattaca comes to life.

I honestly don't think I'd have a problem with that.

My problem would be the sustainability of the planet. All these people would grow up disease free and live 100+ years of healthy living. I guess if it did get to that point, we would have to be compelled to travel to the stars to search out other livable worlds.

GloucesterChief · 02-08-2014, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

I honestly don't think I'd have a problem with that.

My problem would be the sustainability of the planet. All these people would grow up disease free and live 100+ years of healthy living. I guess if it did get to that point, we would have to be compelled to travel to the stars to search out other livable worlds.

You are assuming that with a longer life span and greater confidence in survivability would not alter birthrates.

History has shown that it does alter birthrates, it makes them lower and people have kids at an older age.

**Bowser** · 02-08-2014, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

You are assuming that with a longer life span and greater confidence in survivability would not alter birthrates.

History has shown that it does alter birthrates, it makes them lower and people have kids at an older age.

Point.

I guess the question would become would the sum of the population that was not able to receive the genetic therapy continue to procreate at the same rate?

I guess it raises a number of questions, mainly would the therapy be offered worldwide, or only to the first world countries?

rtmike · 02-08-2014, 03:48 PM

But yet stem cell research is limited.

It wouldn't help me with it being 10 years ago anyways?

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