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Old 06-10-2013, 09:22 AM  
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I'm looking forward to more on the PlayStation 4, a competent Vita lineup, and some NHL 14 news.
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:35 PM   #781
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its all subjective at this point. But, for instance given what we know, is that if you play cod, on the ps4, and xbox one, it will run faster on the ps4, and in a game like that, frame rate is huge... lag sucks....
Think of it in Xbox360/PS3 terms. Developers design games for the Xbox b/c it's easier to design for, and more gamers on the XBox to take advantage of early release content. By the time it's ported to the PS3, it's not quiet the same quality.
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:37 PM   #782
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Ok so then the graphics will be the same. Their wont be a performance drop since developers know what they are limited to, except on PS4 exclusives where they can take advantage of that hardware.
Developers aren't going to let the Xbone's limitations hinder what they can do on the PS4. Not the good ones anyway...
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:58 PM   #783
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its all subjective at this point. But, for instance given what we know, is that if you play cod, on the ps4, and xbox one, it will run faster on the ps4, and in a game like that, frame rate is huge... lag sucks....
Console games always run at steady FPS, there is no video lag.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:43 PM   #784
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its the same engines. but basically what the xbox is having to do, is put a governor on their processor to keep it from over heating. Ie, it doesn't run as fast, and efficiently as the ps4. They have the same capabilities, just xbox much like dodge, where they cant find a way to keep their cars from eating their trannies, xbox cant figure out how to get max out put without melting down the entire system.
How is this possible? How after 8+ years Microsoft cannot figure out how to build a console that won't cause overheating issues, and Sony can build a smaller system and have a quicker cpu? Also looking at it, the PS4 has quicker RAM than X1 and I read a report that on paper, the PS4 is 50% faster than the X1, but that developers code for the lowest possible denominator, and the X1 may keep down the next gen games graphically.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:51 PM   #785
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How is this possible? How after 8+ years Microsoft cannot figure out how to build a console that won't cause overheating issues, and Sony can build a smaller system and have a quicker cpu? Also looking at it, the PS4 has quicker RAM than X1 and I read a report that on paper, the PS4 is 50% faster than the X1, but that developers code for the lowest possible denominator, and the X1 may keep down the next gen games graphically.
Which makes for the same damn problem we had this generation. Everything had to be ported from xbox to ps3 because xbox was the weaker system and ps3 was harder to develop for. Hence why ps3 game generally didn't look as good as the xbox counterpart but PS3 exclusives looked damn AMAZING and blew anything xbox had out of the water.
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Old 06-18-2013, 01:30 AM   #786
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Hey guys, Microsoft is giving you too much value with the Xbone.

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/microsof...-value-6410352
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:27 AM   #787
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http://uk.gamespot.com/news/microsof...-value-6410352
post the article. I can't view it from work.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:58 AM   #788
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Xbox boss Don Mattrick says when compared to other modern products, $500 is not a "ridiculous" price point.

Microsoft's Xbox boss Don Mattrick has spoken out to defend the Xbox One's $500 price point, saying the company is in fact over-delivering value with the next-generation system.

"It's a lower number than some of the analysts had forecasted," Mattrick said on Bloomberg TV. "We're over-delivering value against other choices I think consumers can get. Any modern product these days you look at it [and] $499 isn't a ridiculous price point. We're delivering thousands of dollars of value to people, so I think they're going to love it when they use it."

Competitor Sony will offer its PlayStation 4 at $400 this holiday season, but Mattrick believes consumers will choose Xbox One for its suite of exclusive services and applications like an improved Xbox Live, as well as Skype, Twitch TV, SmartGlass, and Kinect.

"We're really making the living room your center of fun for your family," Mattrick said.

Also in the interview, Mattrick refers to the new Xbox One Halo title as Halo 5. This game was announced during Microsoft's E3 briefing last week only as "Halo Xbox One."

Every Xbox One will include a Kinect 2.0 sensor, while PS4 gamers will need to pay $60 to purchase a PlayStation Eye camera.
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:44 AM   #789
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Meh. If you pay the extra for the eye then its about the same price point
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Meh. If you pay the extra for the eye then its about the same price point
No it is still $40 cheaper. It is also still an unnecessary addon.
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Hey guys, Microsoft is giving you too much value with the Xbone.

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/microsof...-value-6410352
I'm not sure about TOO much value, but the price isn't bad. $399 for the system + $100 for Kinect 2.0. The issue is people don't want to be forced to buy something they don't necessarily want even if MS is making it a requirement for the system.

I see the two major issues with Xbox One as being the requirement for Kinect & the daily verification. If I had the choice, I wouldn't have Kinect. My kids enjoy it from time to time, but not enough to get the moneys worth out of it.

But, it's got a lot of cool features as well. The one I like the most is not needing discs to play on whatever console you are on - that's really enticing to me with a family of 6 and 2 consoles.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:36 AM   #792
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How is this possible? How after 8+ years Microsoft cannot figure out how to build a console that won't cause overheating issues, and Sony can build a smaller system and have a quicker cpu?

I keep asking myself this question as well. You would think with all the issues they had with the 360 & since they corrected the problem with the 360 that it would be a top priority with the Xbox One.
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Meh. If you pay the extra for the eye then its about the same price point
The Eye will be $60. Plus nobody needs it b/c it's gay.
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Developers aren't going to let the Xbone's limitations hinder what they can do on the PS4. Not the good ones anyway...
I really doubt there is going to be a huge difference. Bf4 devs said it will run 60fps on both systems. I'm sure most games will, and I would be suprised if you see huge quality differences on cross platform games.
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