Keep ****ing doubting Rishaw Johnson.

[Simplicity]

I'll donate a $100 to CP to bring this guy into the starting guard position.

[kc79]

Dorsey upgraded DE with Walker and must feel good about Catapano going from year 1-2. Cooper was a rookie, he'll do better this year. McCluster is a RB playing WR. Avery and or Jenkins are an upgrade over him. Mays can feel Jordan's spot. I'll take Commings over Lewis all day and I don't care that he barely played last year. Stevenson improved some much in his second year. Hope Fischer can do the same.

[Saccopoo]

Let's be serious about this bullshit:

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Let's be serious about this bullshit:

You're such a dumbass. Ya let's waste a 1st on a shitty OG.

[Floridafan]

Didn't Dorsey bring in some decent players after they were cut by other teams last year?

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Floridafan

Didn't Dorsey bring in some decent players after they were cut by other teams last year?

yep and we all better hope to hell that he rides that horse again.

we need 4 or 5 more of them this year.

[Floridafan]

I think Dorsey knows football and will bring in more talent just like last year. He just isn't a big mouth know it all type in front of the camera. He is smart and recognizes football talent and understands just what this team needs to win. I personally don't feel we lost anyone that isn't replaceable although I would have like to keep Schwartz. Otherwise he will bring in some good talent and we save money to sign the playmakers. Alex will have a good year with last year under his belt. If we bring in a good safety and another WR or two we should be fine. I'm on the better team/worse record side of things.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Floridafan

I think Dorsey knows football and will bring in more talent just like last year. He just isn't a big mouth know it all type in front of the camera. He is smart and recognizes football talent and understands just what this team needs to win. I personally don't feel we lost anyone that isn't replaceable although I would have like to keep Schwartz. Otherwise he will bring in some good talent and we save money to sign the playmakers. Alex will have a good year with last year under his belt. If we bring in a good safety and another WR or two we should be fine. I'm on the better team/worse record side of things.

Excellent post my friend.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Floridafan

I think Dorsey knows football and will bring in more talent just like last year. He just isn't a big mouth know it all type in front of the camera. He is smart and recognizes football talent and understands just what this team needs to win. I personally don't feel we lost anyone that isn't replaceable although I would have like to keep Schwartz. Otherwise he will bring in some good talent and we save money to sign the playmakers. Alex will have a good year with last year under his belt. If we bring in a good safety and another WR or two we should be fine. I'm on the better team/worse record side of things.

When are we going to use this money to sign these playmakers?

Next year? What about THIS YEAR?

Clock is ticking on several of our best players.

[booger]

http://www.profootballweekly.com/pro...aw-johnson-75/

He's got 35" arms and 11" hands. That's going to be near the top of those physical measurements most years for an OT at the combine. He just hasn't had the snaps to put all of that potential to the test. He should be able to lock on and maul inside at G.

While the excitement of what he could be is there he still hasn't shown anything other than the SD game so they need to have proven depth before they blindly just count on him as the starter at RG.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by booger

While the excitement of what he could be is there he still hasn't shown anything other than the SD game so they need to have proven depth before they blindly just count on him as the starter at RG.

Emphasis on the word "proven" in "proven depth."

Another rookie isn't going to be the answer. You'll just be replacing Rishaw Johnson's struggles with someone else's.

That's why I was all about re-signing Schwartz and keeping the draft completely out of the guard picture this year.

[booger]

Originally Posted by SNR

Emphasis on the word "proven" in "proven depth."

Another rookie isn't going to be the answer. You'll just be replacing Rishaw Johnson's struggles with someone else's.

That's why I was all about re-signing Schwartz and keeping the draft completely out of the guard picture this year.

I'm with you there. I wanted to see Geoff resigned. I think in their view Linkenbach is a very similar player to Schwartz when he was signed last year. The versitility and a part time starter. Dorsey loves Kush and Reid drafted Jason Kelce as a 6th rounder and started him at C in his 2nd year so them moving Hudson to G is something I think they will strongly consider as well. In one of Dorsey's Q/A's, not a recent one but maybe his end of the season presser he mentioned not being surprised if Kush pushes for a starting job. In that case I like Hudson better at LG than RG and that would allow Allen to compete at RG too. I'd like to see them add J'Marcus Webb who they recently visited with. Chris Ballard knows him well from his time with the Bears when he was drafted and Martz loved him. He's only 25-26 with quite a bit of starts under his belt and could compete with Linkebach for a backup job. It's probably better and safer to get a guy like Daryn College on board as a vet with years full of starts under his belt.

All of the talk last year about the youngest line in the league and it's gotten younger this year so far. It's a concern for sure

[Messier]

Jordan was a starter.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

You are talking positions without regard to talent. The total team talent level matters even if it's depth. Every starter lost is talent lost even if you replace that talent from an existing player. You still lose depth.

ARRIVALS
Linkenbach, Jeffrey**
Owens, Chris
Walker, Vance*
Mays, Joe*

ARRIVALS WE DIDN'T SEE LAST YEAR
Commings, Sanders
Kelce, Travis

DEPARTURES

Albert, Branden* (starter in-house. Depth at this position neutralized by Linkenbach)
Asamoah, Jon*Asamaoh, Jon**
Demps, Quintin** neutralized by Chris Owen
Jackson, Tyson* neutralized by Walker
Jordan, Akeem** neutralized by Mays
Lewis, Kendrick* probably neutralized by Commings, a guy not on the roster last year
McCluster, Dexter* likely neutralized by Kelce, a guy not on the roster last year because Kelce will add a receiving option
Powe, Jerrell (barely played)
Schwartz, Geoff*

* had significant time starting
** significant backups

FYP above

And we still have a lot of free agency and the draft. After this time last year, Dorsey hauled in Cooper, McGrath, Parker, Jenkins, Sherman, Fisher, Zombo, Catapano, Rokevius Watkins, Rishaw Johnson, Nico Johnson, Kush, Akeem Jordan. That's thirteen 2014 roster players, five 2013 starters, and 2 or 3 of those guys may end up being 2014 starters.

So no, I am not worried about depth. And I'm also not worried that the remainder of the offseason, we won't neutralize our talent losses. We have to replace a backup Guard, a starting Guard, and a loss in talent at Left Tackle. And some minor losses in talent at some positions likely neutralized by improvements in organic talent already on the roster.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

Spin it however you want, last year's offseason combined with this year's only strengthens the notion that Clark Hunt only cares about putting butts into the seats.

Spin it however you want...
You are suggesting the Chiefs should have either torn the team apart and committed to a painful rebuild the year after a massive fan revolt. Or option B, because we invested in Alex Smith, we should be throwing money as if Smith is a guy who can carry a team to the Super Bowl on his back. I'm not a fan of either of those choices (and no, I'm not a blind Dorsey apologist. I've consistently been critical of his big offseason moves last year).

Also, it's hard to claim Hunt doesn't want to win big after he went over Peterson's head to give Herm license to commit to a rebuild, and then hired Pioli and told him he had time and patience to let him build the team his way.