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Old 03-13-2023, 12:13 PM  
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Chiefs sign Jawaan Taylor
4 year $80 million. $20 million

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Old 03-13-2023, 12:29 PM   #76
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I posted that before I saw how much. He's definitely the LT.
It's basically too much if he's RT, too much if he's not above average at LT, but a pretty good deal if he's around Brown's competence at pass-pro at LT....UNLESS Brown only gets a tick more. Just have to wait and see
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:29 PM   #77
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:30 PM   #78
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:30 PM   #79
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:30 PM   #80
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What was JJSS, MVS, Dunlap, and Watson's PFF grade before KC signed them? I have confidence in this GM, team, and coaching staff.
Just saying, Walker Little was the starting LT for the Jags
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:31 PM   #81
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I mean I trust Veach.

This guy had a lower PFF grade than Wylie last year though.
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:31 PM   #82
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So why the low grade on PFF?

Is he a horrible run blocker or something?
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I mean I trust Veach.

This guy had a lower PFF grade than Wylie last year though.
Much higher pass protection
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So why the low grade on PFF?

Is he a horrible run blocker or something?
Yeah, that's the knock
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:32 PM   #85
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I mean I trust Veach.

This guy had a lower PFF grade than Wylie last year though.
Oh no PFF say he bad but GM who's been to 3 super bowls in 4 years pays him 60 million. Wonder who I'd believe
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:32 PM   #86
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His stats are based on playing RT not LT. That is a huge transition if that is the plan. Not really a fan of this but have to believe in Veach\Reid.
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That said - I wouldn't have paid him this much. $20 million per is a hell of a gamble on a LT conversion.
What did we give up for Brown? Yeah, yeah, he played LT a few games for the Ravens the year before, but he was still a RT.
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:34 PM   #88
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What is OBJ's ranking in pass protection compared to Taylor's?
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Calling my shot - Jawaan Taylor signs a long-term deal here. We draft another OT in the 1st and the off-season becomes a competition between those 2, Niang and a 'reliable veteran' of the Wylie/Remmers mold (i.e. cheap and experienced) to see who starts, who becomes the primary swing and who sweats out the final cutdown day to see how many OTs we carry into week 1.
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Jawaan Taylor is our LT next year...

Makes all the sense in the world.

I'd pay him $17-18 million/season on a deal that is essentially a 3 year deal with 'options' to take it out to 5 on us (He's only 25 right now).

So how do we do this....

5 years, $90 million. Signing bonus of $25 million. Base salaries of $2/$8 and $13 million in years 1-3 (giving him $48 million in the first 3 seasons). Salaries of $18 and $24 million in years 4 and 5.

So:

$25 million bonus
$2, 8, 13, 18, 24 in salaries in years 1-5.

If he makes the transition to LT, that year 4 number is probably still wholly reasonable by then and if he makes it well, year 5 is at least tolerable enough to leverage into a restructure or play on it outright.

If he's stuck at RT you have cap hits for your RT of $7 million, $13 million and $18 million over 3 seasons before you probably cut him loose with a June 1 designation and split that $10 million in dead money over a couple years.

I could live with that. There's a reasonable ceiling and a high floor. Some value baked in if everything goes really well, a makeable escape hatch if it doesn't.
Now I can either take victory laps or eat shit. Or more likely, obfuscate a lot.
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Didn't Taylor play LT in college?
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