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pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-21-2015, 07:11 PM

This is an idea that's really been going through my head, especially with the Jah Reid re-signing. I think Reid may be provided some camp competition, but I believe they plan to start him next year. Which brings me to this question...

What do you want the FO to do with the rest of our upcoming FAs?

Roughly 31 million in cap space right now and 6 of that goes to draft picks. 25 million left, with potential to go up a couple million via cuts.

Personally, as of this day, I consider Berry, DJ, and Howard must keeps. These guys are playing at their highest levels and they don't have any true potential replacements on the surface. It will be costly to do so as well.

Then, I think if Tamba wants to truly be a Chief for life, you try to bring him back at a discount and hopefully Ford is ready to take over at least half the downs.

I think Marcus Peters' emergence and potential makes Sean Smith the most expendable of the class. If he can grow into the top 10, top 5 corner he can truly be, they need to save the cash here. (Though they likely won't have enough anyway)

Would also like to keep either Abdullah or Branch with the $ left at that point.

Keep in mind-- Kelce, Poe and Fisher are all due the following year and while Fisher will likely receive a 1st round tender for 2017, the other two will command nice contracts as well.

The Chiefs deep talent pool has created a nice problem, and one that fortunately we can wait a little longer to delve into as the 2015 season rolls along. Nonetheless, tough decisions are ahead and I'd like to see what different individuals want to take place.

In the meantime, go Chieeeeeeeeeeefssssssss

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-21-2015, 10:15 PM

Berry is a top 3 safety in the game this season. Not just free safety, but every damn safety in the league, he's one of the best. You don't let that go. Like most cases, his work may not be seen on the camera, but he's almost always doing something to help the defense overall.

Mother****erJones · 12-21-2015, 10:23 PM

Berry is the leader on this team now along with Houston. They're best friends. Berry is going nowhere. Keep Berry for sure. I've wanted to have this discussion for awhile now. I really want to keep Sean Smith, but he's going to get paid and a lot. Getting Gaines back next year will be huge. Tough decisions for who gets paid and who has to go. I expect DJ and Tamba back on hometown discounts. I'm hoping to see Jaye Howard locked up soon. I want to keep this defense together for as long as we can.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-21-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Berry is the leader on this team now along with Houston. They're best friends. Berry is going nowhere. Keep Berry for sure. I've wanted to have this discussion for awhile now. I really want to keep Sean Smith, but he's going to get paid and a lot. Getting Gaines back next year will be huge. Tough decisions for who gets paid and who has to go. I expect DJ and Tamba back on hometown discounts. I'm hoping to see Jaye Howard locked up soon. I want to keep this defense together for as long as we can.

Pretty much my feelings exactly.

I don't think we can afford to tie a bunch of money up to Smith when Kelce, Poe, and Fisher are all due the following year. Smith isn't going to get better. Those guys should.

Mother****erJones · 12-21-2015, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Pretty much my feelings exactly.

I don't think we can afford to tie a bunch of money up to Smith when Kelce, Poe, and Fisher are all due the following year. Smith isn't going to get better. Those guys should.

If we can't keep smith I hope we tag and trade him if possible. I don't know what the franchise tag would cost though.

Squalor2 · 12-21-2015, 10:30 PM

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pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-21-2015, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

If we can't keep smith I hope we tag and trade him if possible. I don't know what the franchise tag would cost though.

It would cost more than his average salary, almost for sure.

Direckshun · 12-21-2015, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

No, I didn't misunderstand.

You asked in your hypothetical poll which one we as planeteers would sign for 20 mil.

Any planeteer that respoinded with anything other than "Go **** yourself, I ain't signing either" is a moron in your neighborhood.

Well milk, I've got bad news for you: you owe me a pile of cash.

Because in my initial post ***in this thread***, I openly endorsed letting Allen walk. I then later explained it's because he is NOT worth what I think he'll fetch, which is approximately Asamoah's deal, which is (a.) too rich for our blood and (b.) too much for Allen anyway.

I know this conversation has had some interesting contours, but the idea that I'm endorsing that kind of deal for Allen in this thread is patently false.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-21-2015, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Well milk, I've got bad news for you: you owe me a pile of cash.

Because in my initial post ***in this thread***, I openly endorsed letting Allen walk. I then later explained it's because he is NOT worth what I think he'll fetch, which is approximately Asamoah's deal, which is (a.) too rich for our blood and (b.) too much for Allen anyway.

I know this conversation has had some interesting contours, but the idea that I'm endorsing that kind of deal for Allen in this thread is patently false.

A guy that was at best mediocre, before missing 15 games, only to follow that up by missing at least 8 games, isn't getting $5 million a year.

What NFL are you following?

**RealSNR** · 12-21-2015, 10:37 PM

Berry and Howard are the only must-keeps.

**RealSNR** · 12-21-2015, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

A guy that was, at best mediocre, before missing 15 games, only to follow that up by missing at least 8 games, isn't getting $5 million a year.

What NFL are you following?

Asamoah got his money by sucking on Pioli's big ol' chili dog.

That being said, it's still alarming that a team gave that much to a guy who had done nothing but suck dick his entire career, especially during his contract year.

Geoff Schwartz, also known as the JAG of the century, got $4 million from the Giants. And right now that's not looking like such a bad deal considering our hole at the guard spots last year.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-21-2015, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Berry and Howard are the only must-keeps.

DJ is also until proven otherwise by his play + and his potential successors.

BlackOp · 12-21-2015, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Berry is a top 3 safety in the game this season. Not just free safety, but every damn safety in the league, he's one of the best. You don't let that go. Like most cases, his work may not be seen on the camera, but he's almost always doing something to help the defense overall.

DJ is the #2 rated 3-4 LB this season...you dont let that go. He's more important than the #1 rated safety on the planet.

Paying $9 million for a safety is something a desperate team does....that has a lot of cap. If you build a team based on the fans emotional attachment...you will be in the cellar. Ask Belichick if he would pay a safety $9 million..let alone use a top 5 pick on one...especially when he could sign two good ones already on the roster. I think you know the answer to that rhetorical question.

**Ragged Robin** · 12-21-2015, 10:44 PM

imo Tamba still has a couple years in him if he wants (obviously at a discounted contract), even if it's just a reduced role like a situational pass rusher he can still make an impact

speed and endurance go with age, he'll still have strength and technique

Direckshun · 12-21-2015, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

A guy that was at best mediocre, before missing 15 games, only to follow that up by missing at least 8 games, isn't getting $5 million a year.

What NFL are you following?

About 25 GMs are feeling heat this offseason about their shitty OL play. OL play has been atrocious across the league.

For every decent lineman who hits the market, he's going to have a LOT of potential suitors, and every one of them will be overpaid in free agency or over drafted in April.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-21-2015, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

About 25 GMs are feeling heat this offseason about their shitty OL play. OL play has been atrocious across the league.

For every decent lineman who hits the market, he's going to have a LOT of potential suitors, and every one of them will be overpaid in free agency or over drafted in April.

No GM is forking over $5 million per for a guy that can play every third game

12-21-2015, 07:11 PM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6629447	What do you want the Chiefs to do with their FAs? This is an idea that's really been going through my head, especially with the Jah Reid re-signing. I think Reid may be provided some camp competition, but I believe they plan to start him next year. Which brings me to this question... What do you want the FO to do with the rest of our upcoming FAs? Roughly 31 million in cap space right now and 6 of that goes to draft picks. 25 million left, with potential to go up a couple million via cuts. Personally, as of this day, I consider Berry, DJ, and Howard must keeps. These guys are playing at their highest levels and they don't have any true potential replacements on the surface. It will be costly to do so as well. Then, I think if Tamba wants to truly be a Chief for life, you try to bring him back at a discount and hopefully Ford is ready to take over at least half the downs. I think Marcus Peters' emergence and potential makes Sean Smith the most expendable of the class. If he can grow into the top 10, top 5 corner he can truly be, they need to save the cash here. (Though they likely won't have enough anyway) Would also like to keep either Abdullah or Branch with the $ left at that point. Keep in mind-- Kelce, Poe and Fisher are all due the following year and while Fisher will likely receive a 1st round tender for 2017, the other two will command nice contracts as well. The Chiefs deep talent pool has created a nice problem, and one that fortunately we can wait a little longer to delve into as the 2015 season rolls along. Nonetheless, tough decisions are ahead and I'd like to see what different individuals want to take place. In the meantime, go Chieeeeeeeeeeefssssssss
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