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|Zach|
01-31-2005, 05:59 PM
BIG BOARD: Kiper's Top 25 NFL prospects | Jan. 31
The underclassmen have declared and Senior Bowl week is over, so it's once again time to update my Big Board of the top 25 NFL prospects.

He did not participate in the Senior Bowl, but Michigan wide receiver Braylon Edwards has moved up to No. 2 on the Board based on his overall body of work and his superior athletic skills. Oklahoma wideout Mark Clayton is back in the rankings after coming up big in Senior Bowl practices. Along the same line, Washington offensive tackle Khalif Barnes makes his Big Board debut after proving at the Senior Bowl that a late-season wrist injury is behind him.

On the defensive side of the ball, LSU end Marcus Spears is back in the top 25 after impressive performances last week and Iowa end Matt Roth raised his stock thanks in part to some great battles with Barnes. And there is also one newcomer on defense, Oklahoma junior safety Brodney Pool.

Overall, the board features eight juniors (four among the top 10) and players from 18 different schools, led by three from USC and two each from Auburn and Florida State. USC places one receiver and two defensive linemen on the list, Auburn has a pair of running backs and Wisconsin a duo from the defensive line, while Florida State's players represent the offensive and defensive lines.

Here's how they fall into order:


1. Cedric Benson, RB, Texas (5-10½, 222) | previous rank: same
Benson is a strong, tough runner who has been incredibly productive in his four years in Austin. He has rushed for 1,000 yards in each of his four seasons, and his ability to block and catch the ball make him a complete back. Benson has tremendous vision and quick feet, and thanks to his powerful lower body, the first tackler rarely brings him down. He is not flashy but puts up big numbers against top competition.



2. Braylon Edwards, WR, Michigan (6-2½, 210) | previous rank: 5
Edwards has been steadily moving up based on a tremendous overall season in 2004, when he took over games and showed off his unbelievable athletic skills. He has the size, athleticism and overall pass-catching skills to dominate cornerbacks and corrected the problems he had with concentration lapses and dropped balls. Without question, he's the top wideout on the draft board.


3. Ronnie Brown, RB, Auburn (6-0, 230) | previous rank: 7
Brown showed against Tennessee earlier in the year that he is one of the most complete backs in the nation, running and catching the ball with equal skill. He averaged over six yards per carry this season and had 34 catches. Brown has the size, instincts, power and quickness to put up unbelievable numbers and would have been a Heisman candidate if he were the clear-cut No. 1 on the depth chart. An explosive powerhouse and a complete back.


4. Alex Smith (jr.), QB, Utah (6-3, 207) | previous rank: 3
A mobile quarterback who rushed for 631 yards and 10 touchdowns, Smith is also a very efficient passer who completed 68 percent of his attempts with 32 TDs against only four interceptions. He is tremendously intelligent and will pick up an offensive system quickly at the next level, but the one knock is that he's somewhat of a finesse passer who did not have to muscle a lot of throws into tight spots in college. Smith has very similar ability to California's Aaron Rodgers but gets the nod because of his height advantage.


5. Dan Cody, DE, Oklahoma (6-4, 265) | previous rank: 2
Cody continues moving up the board because of his impressive overall body of work this season. He has been utilized as both a stand-up outside linebacker and a defensive end with his hand on the ground, in much the same way as former NFL standout Kevin Greene. This year Cody finished with 42 tackles (17 for loss, including 10 sacks) and 12 QBH.


6. Adam "Pac-Man" Jones (jr), CB, West Virginia (5-9½, 191) | previous rank: 10
Jones is lethal not only a a cover man but also as a kick and punt returner. He is a little raw technically, but he's still an outstanding cover corner. He has tremendous closing speed and is more than willing to give up his body in run support. In today's NFL, where the rules are tilted in favor of the receivers and corners are unable to become true "lockdown" defenders, that tackling ability in the open field will be just one more asset to combine with his speed, aggressiveness and special teams skills.


7. Aaron Rodgers (jr.), QB, California (6-1½, 205) | previous rank: 6
Don't put too much stock in Rodgers' performance in the Holiday Bowl, where he was without his top three receivers. A smart, accurate passer with good athletic ability, Rodgers completed 68 percent of his passes this season. His arm strength is good enough and his release is quick, and the fact that he seems a bit mechanical at times is simply a product of the way Cal head coach Jeff Tedford coaches his quarterbacks to hold the ball at shoulder level. Rodgers is a better prospect than former Golden Bears QB Kyle Boller, now of the Baltimore Ravens. Rodgers and Alex Smith have very similar abilities


8. Carnell Williams, RB, Auburn (5-10½, 207) | previous rank: same
A very creative and deceptively strong runner who has few peers in terms of pure running skills. Williams does not have imposing size but can still get tough inside yards, a skill which contributed to his 1,307 rushing yards and 17 TDs in 2003. He needs to work on catching the ball out of the backfield, but that's about it. Williams carried 239 times for 1,165 and 12 TDs last season.


9. Heath Miller (jr.), TE, Virginia (6-4½ 255) | previous rank: 4
Miller is a precise route runner with tremendous body control and great hands. He has three seasons of outstanding productivity under his belt, including 70 receptions in 2003. His yards-per-catch average has improved steadily during his career, and Miller is also a willing, reliable blocker who does a nice job augmenting the running game along the offensive line. One of the top overall prospects in the nation, Miller should end up being a top-15 selection.


10. Derrick Johnson, OLB, Texas (6-3, 233) | previous rank: 13
Johnson led the team in tackles each of the last two seasons, totalling 255 stops and a team-high 39 tackles for loss in that time. A great athlete who has a nose for the ball and is all over the field, Johnson forced nine fumbles this year and also had nine interceptions over the last three years.


11. Travis Johnson, DT, Florida State (6-4, 292) | previous rank: 12
Has improved significantly from where he was last year. Johnson has been dominating offensive linemen all year and has spent a lot of time in opposing backfields, collapsing the pocket or getting penetration against the run.


12. Mike Williams (jr.), WR, USC (6-foot-5, 230 pounds) | previous rank: 9
Williams dominated the collegiate game for two full years before his bid to join the NFL draft as a sophomore was ended by the courts and he was declared ineligible by the NCAA. Williams will be eligible for the 2005 draft, though. If Williams can keep his weight at or below 230, he should ultimately be a top-15 pick. Williams likely would have been a top-10 pick last season because his size, strength and toughness make him a tremendous package who can use his body control and hands to go after the ball over smaller defenders. His two-year totals at USC: 176 receptions, 2,579 yards and 30 TDs.


13. Troy Williamson (jr.), WR, South Carolina (6-1½, 200) | previous rank: 11
Williamson can flat-out fly and will likely end up being the fastest wide receiver in this year's draft. He put up 19.4 yards per catch this season in a non-passing offense. With with his size/speed ratio, Williamson should continue to zoom up the draft board.


14. Erasmus James, DE, Wisconsin (6-4, 260) | previous rank: 16
James missed most of last season with a hip injury but had a great showing in fall camp and carried that momentum over to the regular season. He nursed an ankle injury late in 2004 but still commanded double-team blocks. An outstanding pass rusher who is also strong against the run, James has dropped because of his injury history and must still prove his durability.


15. Shawne Merriman (jr.), OLB, Maryland (6-3, 255) | previous rank: 14
A combo guy on the edge who will test the charts. Merriman benches 385, squats 590 and has a 41½-inch vertical jump that is the best ever for a defensive lineman in Maryland history. But don't forget his production, as he led the Terrapins with 17 tackles for loss and 9 sacks. Merriman cold play outside linebacker in either a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme, or put his hand on the ground and play end in a 4-3.


16. Marcus Spears, DE, LSU (6-4, 295) | previous rank: unranked
Will not turn into a 10-12 sack performer at the next level because he lacks great closing speed, but Spears looks like a five-sack guy who will be an outstanding run stopper and disruptive to the passing game because of his size and long arms. He is a great athlete who began his career as a tight end and because of that will be able to play in any defensive structure and should be a solid pro. Boosted his stock with a terrific showing at the Senior Bowl.


17. Alex Barron, OT, Florida State (6-7, 325) | previous rank: 20
Athletically gifted with great footwork as a pass blocker, Barron started 30 games during his career.


18. Antrel Rolle, CB, Miami (6-0½, 200) | previous rank: 17
Rolle has consistently proven his mettle against the top wideouts in the country. A perfect example of that came last year when he shut down former Pittsburgh wideout and eventual No. 3 overall draft pick Larry Fitzgerald. Teams did not throw his way this season, yet he was still a force for the Hurricanes with solid run support and tackles in the backfield.


19. Matt Roth, DE, Iowa (6-3½, 266) | previous rank: 24
A fiery and intense player who is a tremendous natural pass rusher, Roth is a nice complement to standout tackle Jonathan Babineaux. Roth led the Hawkeyes with eight quarterback hurries and three forced fumbles during the regular season and tied for the team lead with eight sacks. His 14 tackles for loss were second on the team during the regular season. The overall consistency of his body of work elevated Roth.


20. Shaun Cody, DT, USC (6-4, 288) | previous rank: 18
A versatile performer who can play either end or tackle, Cody helped the Trojans finish first in the nation in rush defense at 79.4 ypg.


21. Brodney Pool (jr.), S, Oklahoma (6-2½, 200) | previous rank: unranked
One of the top playmakers on a star-studded defense, Pool covers a lot of ground and shows very good anticipation. He is excellent in coverage and more than adequate in run support, diagnosing plays quickly and using his enormous physical gifts to get to the ball. A complete player who led the team with 92 tackles in 2004 while intercepting two passes and breaking up nine others.


22. Anttaj Hawthorne, DT, Wisconsin (6-2½, 315) | previous rank: unranked
Very quick for his size, Hawthorne knows how to handle double-team blocks and can create tackles for loss. Add his strength and overall athleticism to that size and experience and you have an ideal tackle for a 4-3 scheme.

23. Roddy White, WR, UAB (6-1, 205) | previous rank: 15
Runs a consistent 4.42 in the 40, giving him a size/speed combination in the elite category. White averaged 21.6 yards per catch last year and scored seven TDs, and this season he finished second in the nation in receiving yards per game (121.0) while averaging 20.0 yards per catch. White also held his drops to a minimum this year.


24. Mark Clayton, WR, Oklahoma (5-10, 188) | previous rank: unranked
Clayton set OU records in 2003 with 83 receptions for a 17.2-yard average and 15 TDs. The best wideout after the catch we've seen in quite some time, Clayton led the Sooners in 2004 with 66 receptions and 876 yards. He also caught eight TD passes.


25. Khalif Barnes, OT, Washington (6-5, 311) | previous rank: unranked
A wrist injury cost Barnes the final six games of the season, but he was outstanding to that point. He has quick feet and good balance in pass protection, something he displayed in some outstanding one-on-one battles with Matt Roth at the Senior Bowl. Roth said afterward that Barnes is the toughest left tackle he faced all season. Barnes can also be effective in the running game and has all the necessary skills to be a good pro player.

DROPPED
Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn (6-0, 194)) | previous rank: 19
Has 4.4 speed in the 40 and is a physical player who can tackle in the open field and is an asset in run support. Rogers is a respected cover man with good ball skills who has been Auburn's best defensive player this year. With good showings in postseason workouts and all-star games, he could ultimately move into the first round. Consistency, durability and experience against top-level competition in the SEC should all boost his stock.


Jammal Brown, OT, Oklahoma (6-5, 313) | previous rank: 21
Equally adept at run and pass blocking, Brown has long arms that allow him to get his hand on defenders and move them off the ball using his good feet and balance.


Channing Crowder (so.), MLB, Florida (6-2, 245) | previous rank: 22
Crowder has sophomore eligibility but is three years removed from his original high school and therefore eligible for the draft. He adjusted immediately to the level of competition as a freshman, finishing second on the team with 106 tackles and starting nine games, the most ever for a true freshman at Florida. Has great toughness and was one of the top-tackling linebackers in college in 2004 despite missing three games with a knee injury. Ideal physical ability for a guy in the middle.


Thomas Davis (jr.), LB, Georgia (6-3, 233) | previous rank: 23
A combo safety/outside linebacker in college, Davis is a weakside linebacker prospect in the mold of Derrick Brooks. Davis was limited at times this season by minor injuries, but he is an excellent blitzer and a punishing tackler who loves to get down in the box against the run. If his coverage skills were a little better, Davis could be a safety in the vein of Roy Williams, but as it is, he ranks as an excellent linebacker prospect.


David Pollack, DE, Georgia (6-2½, 265) | previous rank: 25
Not physically imposing, Pollack plays with incredible intensity and passion. He is quick off the ball, has great closing speed and wreaks havoc as a pass rusher, as evidenced by his 60 quarterback pressures over the last two seasons and 17.5 TFL (12.5 sacks) in 2004. Still, both Pollack and Matt Roth are going to have to prove their physical ability in workouts due to their lack of ideal size.

Mr. Laz
01-31-2005, 06:24 PM
derrick johnson is the 1st

carlos rogers in the 2nd


:thumb:






(so ... i can dream)

Infidel Goat
01-31-2005, 07:24 PM
15. Shawne Merriman (jr.), OLB, Maryland (6-3, 255) | previous rank: 14
A combo guy on the edge who will test the charts. Merriman benches 385, squats 590 and has a 41½-inch vertical jump that is the best ever for a defensive lineman in Maryland history. But don't forget his production, as he led the Terrapins with 17 tackles for loss and 9 sacks. Merriman cold play outside linebacker in either a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme, or put his hand on the ground and play end in a 4-3.



Is there any reason a monster like this couldn't play MLB?

That's the position I most want to upgrade, though I won't be disappointed if we go CB either . . .

--Infidel Goat

Marco Polo
01-31-2005, 08:04 PM
ROTH!

royr17
01-31-2005, 08:19 PM
Adam Jones is 5'9" 191 lbs, too short for us, if he's 5'11 then take him but dont since he's not

jiveturkey
01-31-2005, 08:51 PM
Adam Jones is 5'9" 191 lbs, too short for us, if he's 5'11 then take him but dont since he's notYou would pass on the top rated cover CB in the draft because he's to short?

|Zach|
01-31-2005, 08:57 PM
You would pass on the top rated cover CB in the draft because he's to short?
All he knows are the stats...he doesn't watch college ball.

htismaqe
01-31-2005, 08:58 PM
You would pass on the top rated cover CB in the draft because he's to short?

Our coaching staff would.

:banghead:

Chiefnj
01-31-2005, 09:02 PM
You would pass on the top rated cover CB in the draft because he's to short?

Gunther might, if he has any input. After watching a lot of jump balls for TD's against the Chiefs this past year, it would give me pause as well.

For those busting on Roy for not watching college ball, how many games did you guys watch Pac Man in?

jiveturkey
01-31-2005, 09:02 PM
Our coaching staff would.

:banghead:I would be pretty stoked if we landed him but I agree that Gunther will go for the "profile" CB. Rogers or Rolle wouldn't suck.

What ever happened to Marlin Jackson? I haven't seen him on many of the recent mocks.

Alphaman
01-31-2005, 09:10 PM
I have not been on the Merriman bandwagon, but he sure sounds like Gun could utilize him like DT. Merriman might actually be better against the run. If we could land a quality CB in the 2nd (Jackson, Webster, Browner) that would be an excellent draft.

jiveturkey
01-31-2005, 09:14 PM
I have not been on the Merriman bandwagon, but he sure sounds like Gun could utilize him like DT. Merriman might actually be better against the run. If we could land a quality CB in the 2nd (Jackson, Webster, Browner) that would be an excellent draft.I wouldn't mind a stud LBer but CB seems to be a much larger need.

the Talking Can
01-31-2005, 09:25 PM
15. Shawne Merriman (jr.), OLB, Maryland (6-3, 255) | previous rank: 14
A combo guy on the edge who will test the charts. Merriman benches 385, squats 590 and has a 41½-inch vertical jump that is the best ever for a defensive lineman in Maryland history. But don't forget his production, as he led the Terrapins with 17 tackles for loss and 9 sacks. Merriman cold play outside linebacker in either a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme, or put his hand on the ground and play end in a 4-3.

.

I didn't know about this guy? is he for real?

I'm fine with either a LB or CB....a 250 lb OLB? must be quick

Chiefs Pantalones
01-31-2005, 09:28 PM
I have not been on the Merriman bandwagon, but he sure sounds like Gun could utilize him like DT. Merriman might actually be better against the run. If we could land a quality CB in the 2nd (Jackson, Webster, Browner) that would be an excellent draft.

Just say no to Cory Webster.

Ultra Peanut
01-31-2005, 09:29 PM
23. Roddy White, WR, UAB (6-1, 205) | previous rank: 15
Runs a consistent 4.42 in the 40, giving him a size/speed combination in the elite category. White averaged 21.6 yards per catch last year and scored seven TDs, and this season he finished second in the nation in receiving yards per game (121.0) while averaging 20.0 yards per catch. White also held his drops to a minimum this year.This guy's a ****in' soldier. He's not a demon from hell like (former) teammate Darrell Hackney, but he's a damn fine receiver.

CanadaKC
01-31-2005, 09:43 PM
I'm with you Lazerus...

Derrick Johnson in the 1st....Carlos Rogers in the 2nd...one could dream.

Or Antrel Rolle in the first....Shawne Merriman inn the 2nd

Mr. Laz
01-31-2005, 09:44 PM
You would pass on the top rated cover CB in the draft because he's to short?

not only would our coaching staff pass on him... i would expect them too

(not that i would want them to ... but gunther is big time on size)



actually i would be very surprized to see the chiefs draft a cornerback under 5'11"

Miles
01-31-2005, 09:50 PM
Just say no to Cory Webster.

Yeah i also dont want him at all. He was a huge disapointment for me last season.

jspchief
01-31-2005, 09:51 PM
For those busting on Roy for not watching college ball, how many games did you guys watch Pac Man in?

I think I watched four of his games closely (fairly closely). The thing about him is he's always around the ball. He might not be the guy that gets the stat for the tackle, but you can bet your ass he was right in the mix of things. Ball hawk is how I'd describe him.

Besides, all you had to do was watch college gameday or Saturday night Sportscenter and you'd have seen a lot of this guy.

philfree
01-31-2005, 10:29 PM
I have not been on the Merriman bandwagon, but he sure sounds like Gun could utilize him like DT. Merriman might actually be better against the run. If we could land a quality CB in the 2nd (Jackson, Webster, Browner) that would be an excellent draft.

I was reading about Marriman and he's been playing on the left side at LB and DE. IMO we could draft him and use him as a pass rush specisalist in rotation with Hicks and then also use him as a LB when we run 3-4.Then as time goes on and he bulks up a little he can take over Hicks spot full time.

PhilFree :arrow:

Mr. Laz
01-31-2005, 10:33 PM
I was reading about Marriman and he's been playing on the left side at LB and DE. IMO we could draft him and use him as a pass rush specisalist in rotation with Hicks and then also use him as a LB when we run 3-4.Then as time goes on and he bulks up a little he can take over Hicks spot full time.

PhilFree :arrow:

sounds like gary stills

philfree
01-31-2005, 10:36 PM
sounds like gary stills

Yeah but Stills isn't that good and he didn't come out of college as a prospect with 1st round talent. AT 6'4" Merriman he has the room to bulk up a little. I'm thinking more Jevon Kearse like then Gary Stills.

PhilFree :arrow:

jspchief
01-31-2005, 10:37 PM
sounds like gary stills

Who was invisible for us this year. I hate the idea of situational pass-rushers.

BigRedChief
01-31-2005, 10:38 PM
If Rolle is there when we pick and we pass him up...:mad: It's pitchfork time

philfree
01-31-2005, 10:58 PM
Who was invisible for us this year. I hate the idea of situational pass-rushers.

I think Merriman is more then a situational pass rusher. I just suggested easing him into the lineup by putting him in on mostly 3rd downs in Hicks spot. The premium draft service I subscribed to this year(NFL Draft Scout) has an excellent report on Merrimen and the guy is a great prospect IMO. If I could copy and paste it I would but since a premium site I won't let me. Besides his combine type numbers he's also had the production on the field(9 sacks and 17 tckl for loss) and he's a profile guy. "A tireless worker who does the little things it takes to succeed." Also says he's a leader type who ain't afraid to speak up if need be. Comes from a one parent family raised by his mom.

This is one of those guys that I've never watched play who reads great and.......now I kinda want to draft him.


PhilFree :arrow:

royr17
01-31-2005, 11:10 PM
You would pass on the top rated cover CB in the draft because he's to short?

CB's that small can be taken advantage of easily. He could be another Dre Bly but can be taken advantage of real easy.

The Bad Guy
01-31-2005, 11:28 PM
CB's that small can be taken advantage of easily. He could be another Dre Bly but can be taken advantage of real easy.

We have 3 6'1 corners that get taken advantage of like teenage girls at a Mark Chmura sleepover party.

Give me the guy who can play the ball and tackle.

Ultra Peanut
01-31-2005, 11:32 PM
We have 3 6'1 corners that get taken advantage of like teenage girls at a Mark Chmura sleepover party.OH NO YOU DI-IN'T! ROFL

the Talking Can
01-31-2005, 11:49 PM
CB's that small can be taken advantage of easily. He could be another Dre Bly but can be taken advantage of real easy.

please stop...you sound like my girlfriend trying to "talk sports"...just don't

Eleazar
01-31-2005, 11:53 PM
please stop...you sound like my girlfriend trying to "talk sports"...just don't

Maybe his e-woman is typing those sports takes.

|Zach|
01-31-2005, 11:55 PM
please stop...you sound like my girlfriend trying to "talk sports"...just don't
ROFL

Spicy McHaggis
02-01-2005, 12:28 AM
please stop...you sound like my girlfriend trying to "talk sports"...just don't

burn man, total burn.

htismaqe
02-01-2005, 09:24 AM
Benny Sapp showed way more than Battle and Bartee this season.

He's the SAME SIZE as Pac-Man.

Mr. Laz
02-01-2005, 01:11 PM
Benny Sapp showed way more than Battle and Bartee this season.

He's the SAME SIZE as Pac-Man.

have you seen Carlos rogers play?


who do you prefer?


is this pac man guy so much better than roger that the size doesn't matter?



i've seen rogers ... i haven't seen jones

htismaqe
02-01-2005, 01:29 PM
have you seen Carlos rogers play?

who do you prefer?

is this pac man guy so much better than roger that the size doesn't matter?

i've seen rogers ... i haven't seen jones

Here's how I would differentiate them, based on the 2 or 3 games I saw of each of them.

Carlos Rogers is SOLID. He's fundamentally strong and athletic.

Pac Man Jones is ELECTRIC. He's a threat to pick it off and take it to the house every time they throw at him.

ct
02-01-2005, 04:13 PM
Here's how I would differentiate them, based on the 2 or 3 games I saw of each of them.

Carlos Rogers is SOLID. He's fundamentally strong and athletic.

Pac Man Jones is ELECTRIC. He's a threat to pick it off and take it to the house every time they throw at him.


If I can get SOLID in the 2nd, to follow DJ in the 1st, then it's a no-brainer to me. Johnson in the 1st over any LB in the 2nd sounds like a tremendous move. IF...he's still there...

htismaqe
02-01-2005, 04:15 PM
If I can get SOLID in the 2nd, to follow DJ in the 1st, then it's a no-brainer to me. Johnson in the 1st over any LB in the 2nd sounds like a tremendous move. IF...he's still there...

Rogers won't be there in the 2nd.

If you take Johnson in the 1st, you're going to be stuck with some projects like Webster in the 2nd.

ct
02-01-2005, 04:18 PM
Rogers won't be there in the 2nd.

If you take Johnson in the 1st, you're going to be stuck with some projects like Webster in the 2nd.

I'll still take Johnson over any CB in the 1st.

htismaqe
02-01-2005, 04:28 PM
I'll still take Johnson over any CB in the 1st.

Me too.

The risk you take by drafting a CB is that there's about a 90% chance that they won't be able to contribute right away...

Chiefs Pantalones
02-01-2005, 04:28 PM
Pac-Man Jones is this year's Phillip Buchanan (hopefully without the injuries, and hopefully better). I just hope he doesn't go until 15. They're about the same size and have equal talent, both are good cover corners (Phillip hasn't really reached his potential yet), hopefully PM would turn out fine faster with us if we had the chance to pick him.

Eleazar
02-01-2005, 04:33 PM
I'll still take Johnson over any CB in the 1st.

+1

philfree
02-01-2005, 04:37 PM
Rogers won't be there in the 2nd.

If you take Johnson in the 1st, you're going to be stuck with some projects like Webster in the 2nd.

Webster would be a good value pick at our 2nd pick IMO. I'd take Johnson and Webster right now and call it a draft.

Webster struggled through the week at the SR Bowl and his Sr year wasn't as good as the previous two years but because of those previous two years I'm not writing him off. He had 14 INTs in two years, 7 each year. He's got some ball skills and he's better then Barttee right now. I wouldn't give a 1st for the guy but if his combine numbers are decent I wouldn't hesitate to take him in the 2nd round.

PhilFree :arrow:

CanadaKC
02-01-2005, 05:03 PM
That CB from Virginia tech really impressed me...he came on strong at the end of the season...Justin Williams I think his name was. He was big, tall, and very physical...also made an impressive INT in the bowl game. We could easily get him at the end of rounnd two..or even three.

Baby Lee
02-01-2005, 05:07 PM
I'm as convinced that we need to pick up Dan Cody this season, as I was that we needed Roy Williams a couple of seasons ago.

philfree
02-01-2005, 05:16 PM
I'm as convinced that we need to pick up Dan Cody this season, as I was that we needed Roy Williams a couple of seasons ago.


Has Cody played RDE exclusively or can he play either side? I've seen him play RDE but don't recall seeing him on the left. If we draft Cody who plays LDE him or Jared Allen? To me these guys seem like clones of each other.

PhilFree :arrow:

Baby Lee
02-01-2005, 05:20 PM
Has Cody played RDE exclusively or can he play either side? I've seen him play RDE but don't recall seeing him on the left. If we draft Cody who plays LDE him or Jared Allen? To me these guys seem like clones of each other.

PhilFree :arrow:
I know you guys are gonna laugh, but;




Falcon.



Seriously though, I'd draft him to switch between down lineman and OLB, depending on the situation and opposing personnel.

Mr. Laz
02-01-2005, 05:32 PM
Has Cody played RDE exclusively or can he play either side? I've seen him play RDE but don't recall seeing him on the left. If we draft Cody who plays LDE him or Jared Allen? To me these guys seem like clones of each other.

PhilFree :arrow:

cody seems more like grant winstrom than Allen to me


cody is more of a stocky build and will probably grow into a LDE


Allen is kinda a long lean guy

ChiefsCountry
02-01-2005, 05:36 PM
Marcus Spears in the first and Donta Nicholson in the second.

HolmeZz
02-01-2005, 05:38 PM
That CB from Virginia tech really impressed me...he came on strong at the end of the season...Justin Williams I think his name was. He was big, tall, and very physical...also made an impressive INT in the bowl game. We could easily get him at the end of rounnd two..or even three.

He stayed in school.

And I'd rather trade down a little and take Roth over Marcus Spears, if I had to. Spears is just too lazy of a fat ass for me; he's a DE version of Sims IMO.