Automobile help needed please.

[J Diddy]

I am buying a 1991 ford ranger tomorrow and it does not have air conditioning. Does anyone know how difficult or even possible to have it installed or if anyone can do it?

Any help would be appreciated.

[Phobia]

I'd just take your $10 down to Blockbuster and enjoy a few movies instead.

[J Diddy]

I'd just take your $10 down to Blockbuster and enjoy a few movies instead.

Um, why do you say this?

[alanm]

Just roll the windows down. It's free!!

Air conditioning? We don't need no stinkin air conditioning.

[J Diddy]

Just roll the windows down. It's free!!

Air conditioning? We don't need no stinkin air conditioning.

I'm spoiled.

(At least I want to be.)

[Phobia]

91 Ford Ranger with no air?

It's worth about a grand and it would cost at least that to have air installed. I just think it's a poor investment, especially if air is important to you.

[Pants]

Um, why do you say this?

LOL, he's implying it's only worth 10 dollars (the car). I wouldn't by a car without taking it to a mechanic first. Especially a 14 year old Ranger.

[HemiEd]

Is it a four or six cyl? This is important as the Ford four that year will have a hard time handling the load at idle.

[J Diddy]

91 Ford Ranger with no air?

It's worth about a grand and it would cost at least that to have air installed. I just think it's a poor investment, especially if air is important to you.

It's actually worth $2300 and I'm getting it for 1/4 of that. It only has 70,000 miles on it and in virtually mint condition.

It is officially my soon to be toy.

[J Diddy]

Is it a four or six cyl? This is important as the Ford four that year will have a hard time handling the load at idle.

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[Michael Michigan]

It's actually worth $2300 and I'm getting it for 1/4 of that. It only has 70,000 miles on it and in virtually mint condition.

It is officially my soon to be toy.

So--it's $600?

[Stinger]

Put this in your back window

http://www.hqda.army.mil/acsimweb/fd/policy/SupEqGuide/images/window_ac.jpg

But don't stray to far from your house or have a looooong extension cord.

[J Diddy]

LOL, he's implying it's only worth 10 dollars (the car). I wouldn't by a car without taking it to a mechanic first. Especially a 14 year old Ranger.

please do tell me about the responsibilities of being an adult.

Like I didn't take it to a mechanic first.

[BIG_DADDY]

Spray bottle with a fan man, you can thank me later.

[J Diddy]

So--it's $600?

$800

[J Diddy]

$800

My math was bronco math.

[J Diddy]

Put this in your back window

http://www.hqda.army.mil/acsimweb/fd/policy/SupEqGuide/images/window_ac.jpg

But don't stray to far from your house or have a looooong extension cord.

ROFL

That's some funny shit.

[Pants]

please do tell me about the responsibilities of being an adult.

Like I didn't take it to a mechanic first.

And, umm, you didn't ask him but instead chose to ask on CP? Whatever you feel like, why are you so hostile though?

[HemiEd]

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You can spend about a grand and have it installed but you won't like it. If you wanted to spend some serious dough for a street rod set up it would probably be worth more than the truck. Maybe you should consider the $10 option or drop a small block Chrysler engine in it.

[Phobia]

My apologies for my synical response. Sometimes I suck. If you're getting a great deal, I hope you're happy with it. I'm guessing it would cost a significant amount to put air into unless you know somebody who would wanna tinker with it. I don't know shit, though.

[Pants]

You can spend about a grand and have it installed but you won't like it. If you wanted to spend some serious dough for a street rod set up it would probably be worth more than the truck. Maybe you should consider the $10 option or drop a small block Chrysler engine in it.

Oh, I thought it was broke. NM JD.

[Phobia]

You can spend about a grand and have it installed but you won't like it.

Cool. My WAG was on the money. I'm smarter than even I give myself credit for....

[KCWolfman]

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You will only be able to turn on the air going downhill. There is a reason your 90 horsepower engine wasn't originally made with air, it can't handle it.

[Mr. Kotter]

Sounds like you are gettin' a good deal on an older vehicle; sounds like it's in good shape.

Heck, you can probably get it installed for 700-900 bucks at the right place....but that puts a strain on a 4-banger. Unless you NEED air, I don't know if I'd make the investment. If you NEED the air, the 900 bucks is probably worth it to you--asuuming the vehicle will last at least 2-3 years, or more. Your call.

[J Diddy]

And, umm, you didn't ask him but instead chose to ask on CP? Whatever you feel like, why are you so hostile though?

Because the mechanic I spoke with didn't really seem to interested in this area. Because I like to do stuff myself, that way if I screw it up it is on me. Because that's the way I work.

Pick your answer.

[HemiEd]

Cool. My WAG was on the money. I'm smarter than even I give myself credit for....

See I told you that you were not a moron! Thanks for the change!

[Pants]

Because the mechanic I spoke with didn't really seem to interested in this area. Because I like to do stuff myself, that way if I screw it up it is on me. Because that's the way I work.

Pick your answer.

Read my last post. I misunderstood.

[J Diddy]

You will only be able to turn on the air going downhill. There is a reason your 90 horsepower engine wasn't originally made with air, it can't handle it.

So I guess the spray bottle and the window open is the best option then.

I can live with that.

[HemiEd]

Because the mechanic I spoke with didn't really seem to interested in this area. Because I like to do stuff myself, that way if I screw it up it is on me. Because that's the way I work.

Pick your answer.


As nice as this unit sounds a street rod set-up ( around $2500) might be worth it. They are small compressor, high efficiency units.

[J Diddy]

Oh, I thought it was broke. NM JD.

It's all good. I like to tinker. Either way I won't have much invested in it if I screw it up.

[Mr. Kotter]

Because the mechanic I spoke with didn't really seem to interested in this area. Because I like to do stuff myself, that way if I screw it up it is on me. Because that's the way I work.

Pick your answer.

The reason, I suspect the mechanic isn't interested, is he can do it--but if he's conscientious, he probably doesn't want to do it...because as we have suggested, you likely will be "unimpressed" by air attached to a 4 cylinder in a Truck.

I've had 4 cylinder "with Air" before....it's not cool (no pun intended.) :hmmm:

[booger]

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With it being a Ford and a four banger, I hope it has a manual tranny. At least you could get some kind of enjoyment out of driving it.

In all seriousness good luck. :thumb:

Doesn't sound like a bad deal considering the low mileage.

[booger]

just don't ever take advace from a mopar man.

[HemiEd]

just don't ever take advace from a mopar man.

ROFL ROFL

[J Diddy]

With it being a Ford and a four banger, I hope it has a manual tranny. At least you could get some kind of enjoyment out of driving it.

In all seriousness good luck. :thumb:

Doesn't sound like a bad deal considering the low mileage.

5 speed.

Looks sharp, I'm gonna have fun with it.
(obviously not too much since it doesn't have much power)

[Phobia]

FWIW, I've always been fond of Edmunds over KBB.

http://www.edmunds.com/used/1991/ford/ranger/index.html?tid=edmunds.u.mmindex.content.num15.5.ford*

[booger]

ROFL ROFL
oh sh!t didn't see you there. :thumb: :)

[booger]

5 speed.

Looks sharp, I'm gonna have fun with it.
(obviously not too much since it doesn't have much power)
that's the main thing. As long as you are happy with it. :thumb:

[J Diddy]

Thanks all for the help. Everyone have a great night.

[KCWolfman]

The reason, I suspect the mechanic isn't interested, is he can do it--but if he's conscientious, he probably doesn't want to do it...because as we have suggested, you likely will be "unimpressed" by air attached to a 4 cylinder in a Truck.

I've had 4 cylinder "with Air" before....it's not cool (no pun intended.) :hmmm:
There are a great many 4 cylinders that can and do handle air conditioning with no problem. However, the Ranger came only with a 90 hp engine in the early 90s. It ain't the cylinders, it the horseys underneath.

[HemiEd]

that's the main thing. As long as you are happy with it. :thumb:

sure! :thumb:

[booger]

that one big assed paper weight.

[HemiEd]

that one big assed paper weight.

It is an Elephant to you Rat people! :p

[KCWolfman]

that one big assed paper weight.
Give me that paper weight over a pussy 350 or rice cooker anyday of the week.

I had a 383 magnum with a 6 pack factory released and put into a Sport Fury that could eat any Chevy on the road at the time.

[booger]

It does have two wing nuts attaching the are cleaner though.

[HemiEd]

Give me that paper weight over a pussy 350 or rice cooker anyday of the week.

I had a 383 magnum with a 6 pack factory released and put into a Sport Fury that could eat any Chevy on the road at the time.


Cool, Mopar support! :thumb:

[HemiEd]

It does have two wing nuts attaching the are cleaner though.


And do you know why? :hmmm:

[booger]

Give me that paper weight over a pussy 350 or rice cooker anyday of the week.

I had a 383 magnum with a 6 pack factory released and put into a Sport Fury that could eat any Chevy on the road at the time.
Hell they are all fun fords, chevy, dodge. If I had the money I'd get an old chevelle and dump one of the new 572 ci in it. :thumb:

[booger]

And do you know why? :hmmm:
dual carbs perhaps?

or is it so the first wing nut doesn't get lonely?

[Phobia]

Yeah - I'd definitely say duals.

[KCWolfman]

dual carbs perhaps?

or is it so the first wing nut doesn't get lonely?
LOL, the life of a retaining bolt is a lonely one indeed.

[HemiEd]

dual carbs perhaps?

or is it so the first wing nut doesn't get lonely?


You are correct, all Hemis came with dual fours. It is good to jostle with you and hope you get to do your Chevelle project. I kind of like the first generation Chevelles myself. My first new car was a 72 Chevelle. Like you said, as long as they aint buring rice they are cool. :)

[J Diddy]

There are a great many 4 cylinders that can and do handle air conditioning with no problem. However, the Ranger came only with a 90 hp engine in the early 90s. It ain't the cylinders, it the horseys underneath.

Damned them horseys.

[booger]

You are correct, all Hemis came with dual fours. It is good to jostle with you and hope you get to do your Chevelle project. I kind of like the first generation Chevelles myself. My first new car was a 72 Chevelle. Like you said, as long as they aint buring rice they are cool. :)

Thanks.

That dream won't come true until I win the lottery or knock of a bank. ROFL

It defenatly won't be plum crazy though. :thumb:

[HemiEd]

Yeah - I'd definitely say duals.

this is before I stuck it back in

[Miles]

sure! :thumb:

Thats one nice looking motor. :thumb: Im partial to more modern types with smaller displacement/high HP but you gotta respect the classic muscle.

[booger]

this is before I stuck it back in
hey now. We got kids here.

[HemiEd]

hey now. We got kids here.

I thought you would be the one to catch that! ROFL

[booger]

it's a sickness I have.

[HemiEd]

Thats one nice looking motor. :thumb: Im partial to more modern types with smaller displacement/high HP but you gotta respect the classic muscle.

The new stuff is far more efficient for sure.

[stumppy]

this is before I stuck it back in

:hail::hail::hail:

[Radar Chief]

Toy? So what are your intentions with it?

[Radar Chief]

sure! :thumb:

Nice, ever run that thing? What kinda ¼ ya gett’n?

[J Diddy]

Toy? So what are your intentions with it?


I don't know yet. Looks nice, runs nice, so I think I'm gonna get it.

[Radar Chief]

I don't know yet. Looks nice, runs nice, so I think I'm gonna get it.

If it tickles you giggle spot, go for it.
Everybody needs some type of toy.

[Radar Chief]

Just out of curiosity, what kinda 4 popper does it have in it?

[Bwana]

It can be done for 1K to 1400 and as Phobia stated, that's about what it's worth unless there is something extra special about it. If it is not your full time driver, I would use the 80 model air conditioning. Open the windows and drive 80 miles per hour. :)

[Dartgod]

$885 for a kit from J.C. Whitney

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductDisplay/c-10101/s-10101/p-214219/mediaCode-ZX/appId-479564

[Bwana]

$885 for a kit from J.C. Whitney

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductDisplay/c-10101/s-10101/p-214219/mediaCode-ZX/appId-479564

Oh boy, that looks like an install project from hell doesn't it? :shake: I think I would have wrenchs flying all over the shop by the time I finished that little brain buster.

[Radar Chief]

Oh boy, that looks like an install project from hell doesn't it? :shake: I think I would have wrenchs flying all over the shop by the time I finished that little brain buster.

You might be surprised, since it’s specifically for an ’88-94 model Ranger and already has the brackets.

[Bwana]

You might be surprised, since it’s specifically for an ’88-94 model Ranger and already has the brackets.

You may be right, but those "little projects" like that always seem to turn into more than the "easy to install" directions on the box. :hmmm: I always end up with a part or two that was made by some hungover strokestick on the line and have to modify a few things.

[Otter]

This is kinda like building a 3 story house then when everything is up and in place deciding it needs an elevator isn't it?

I think the "open a window" suggestion fits best.

[HemiEd]

Nice, ever run that thing? What kinda ¼ ya gett’n?
Totally restored to original, so it ran about like they did from the showroom new. 13.91 at 107. It is a museum piece now, a new rich owner. Thanks for asking, I was into the JD a little last night when Booger and I were doing the Mopar vs Chevy thing. :thumb:

[Radar Chief]

You may be right, but those "little projects" like that always seem to turn into more than the "easy to install" directions on the box. :hmmm: I always end up with a part or two that was made by some hungover strokestick on the line and have to modify a few things.


I know what’cha mean, “bolt in kits” never are. There’s always a little custom fabrication involved.
I’d bet the main problem J Diddy’s gonna run into will be leaks, and since he’ll have to take it to a certified air conditioning shop to have it charged it’ll be one of those fix one leak find another kinda things. At least that’s been the main problem with the few air conditioner conversions I’ve witnessed.
Something to keep in mind J Diddy, I think you can have the air conditioner guy put some dye in when he charges the system, this’ll help track down those leaks.

[Radar Chief]

Totally restored to original, so it ran about like they did from the showroom new. 13.91 at 107. It is a museum piece now, a new rich owner. Thanks for asking, I was into the JD a little last night when Booger and I were doing the Mopar vs Chevy thing. :thumb:

Kewl, too bad you sold it though, but I’m sure you’ve probably moved onto another project by now.
Although there’s been some friendly smack thrown back and forth between Bwana, PastorMike and myself over there dirty ricers ;) , I have no brand loyalty. I’ll go with whatever works.

[Bwana]

Kewl, too bad you sold it though, but I’m sure you’ve probably moved onto another project by now.
Although there’s been some friendly smack thrown back and forth between Bwana, PastorMike and myself over there dirty ricers ;) , I have no brand loyalty. I’ll go with whatever works.On that note, I'm sure you will be happy to know that I am now driving a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited for my driver of the month. :hmmm: So far, I haven't had to call on any of my buddies with a Land Cruiser to tow it back to my shop. :eek:

[HemiEd]

Kewl, too bad you sold it though, but I’m sure you’ve probably moved onto another project by now.
Although there’s been some friendly smack thrown back and forth between Bwana, PastorMike and myself over there dirty ricers ;) , I have no brand loyalty. I’ll go with whatever works.

I sold it for fear we would have another muscle car value crash like we did in 88. I posted some pix in the cool car picture thread a while back. We are in agreement on the ricer thing. But one of my buddies has made a lot of money selling those stupid wings, big mouth mufflers and all of that other crap they put on them. He said it has slowed down a lot recently because the kids have figured out that one of those mufflers and a pink air tube won't make them run in the tens! ROFL

[Radar Chief]

On that note, I'm sure you will be happy to know that I am now driving a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited for my driver of the month. :hmmm: So far, I haven't had to call on any of my buddies with a Land Cruiser to tow it back to my shop. :eek:

Glad you returned from the dark side. :thumb:

[Radar Chief]

I sold it for fear we would have another muscle car value crash like we did in 88. I posted some pix in the cool car picture thread a while back. We are in agreement on the ricer thing. But one of my buddies has made a lot of money selling those stupid wings, big mouth mufflers and all of that other crap they put on them. He said it has slowed down a lot recently because the kids have figured out that one of those mufflers and a pink air tube won't make them run in the tens! ROFL

“Well, the paint job alone took a second off my ¼ time.” ;)

Back before the Truck World BB got all screwed up, there was a guy selling those “Intake Tornado” thing-a-muh-jigs and the ricer kiddies were buy’n them left and right talk’n about how much faster it made there rigs. When the master mechanics showed up asking questions about how it’s supposed to work, the seller started talking in circles before leaving the board with a comment like, “well, I guess some people just don’t want to believe.” :rolleyes:

[HemiEd]

“Well, the paint job alone took a second off my ¼ time.” ;)

Back before the Truck World BB got all screwed up, there was a guy selling those “Intake Tornado” thing-a-muh-jigs and the ricer kiddies were buy’n them left and right talk’n about how much faster it made there rigs. When the master mechanics showed up asking questions about how it’s supposed to work, the seller started talking in circles before leaving the board with a comment like, “well, I guess some people just don’t want to believe.” :rolleyes:


Funny Story! My Friend owns one of the shops that sells all of that junk and those rubber band tires with the Dubs.
He drives a Viper in the summer. One of those guys pulled up in his "Civic" in front of store and said in all seriousness: My Civic will outrun that thing! The Civic driver had no idea what the Viper even was.

[Radar Chief]

Funny Story! My Friend owns one of the shops that sells all of that junk and those rubber band tires with the Dubs.
He drives a Viper in the summer. One of those guys pulled up in his "Civic" in front of store and said in all seriousness: My Civic will outrun that thing! The Civic driver had no idea what the Viper even was.

Yup, that sound’s ‘bout right.

[J Diddy]

After some debate about the truck, I decided not to get it afterall. Instead I got a 94 Dakota with 80000 miles. It has cruise control, powersteering and yes AC.

Thanks everyone for all the help last night.

[Phobia]

That's what my old man drives. What did you pay for it?

[stumppy]

Funny Story! My Friend owns one of the shops that sells all of that junk and those rubber band tires with the Dubs.
He drives a Viper in the summer. One of those guys pulled up in his "Civic" in front of store and said in all seriousness: My Civic will outrun that thing! The Civic driver had no idea what the Viper even was.

That's too funny.ROFL Hell, you can just look at a Viper and tell it's one fast mofo.
I've driven (hard) a lot of cars over the years and Viper's are the only ones that actually scared me. Every time I drove one I walked away thinking 'that's way too much power for just anyone to be able to drive'.

[stumppy]

After some debate about the truck, I decided not to get it afterall. Instead I got a 94 Dakota with 80000 miles. It has cruise control, powersteering and yes AC.

Thanks everyone for all the help last night.

Did you get one with the 5.2 L engine ?

[J Diddy]

That's what my old man drives. What did you pay for it?


I got it for 6,000. Which for some reason is over the bluebook value by quite a bit, but I don't mind paying it. It is in perfect condition, runs great, and I like it. Sheez, around here I was lucky to get anything in good condition for under $10000.

No buyers remorse, so far it is fun as hell.

[HemiEd]

After some debate about the truck, I decided not to get it afterall. Instead I got a 94 Dakota with 80000 miles. It has cruise control, powersteering and yes AC.

Thanks everyone for all the help last night.

Good move, I think you will be glad you did it. V6 or V8? I have a 90, they are nice! :thumb:

[HemiEd]

That's too funny.ROFL Hell, you can just look at a Viper and tell it's one fast mofo.
I've driven (hard) a lot of cars over the years and Viper's are the only ones that actually scared me. Every time I drove one I walked away thinking 'that's way too much power for just anyone to be able to drive'.

I have not driven one, but I have ridden in his. Lots of fun! :thumb: