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vckcchiefs04
03-22-2005, 10:31 AM
Just reported by Frank Boal on 810 that Bears are considering releasing R.W. McQuaters unless a trade can be worked out................. according to Boal, the Chiefs are talking with the Bears about a trade for the cornerback. Somthing else to think about. :hmmm:

the Talking Can
03-22-2005, 10:31 AM
R.W. McDonalds?

ChiefsCountry
03-22-2005, 10:33 AM
Why trade for a guy if they are going to cut him? He would be a good nickel back/starter while Warfield is on suspension.

Brock
03-22-2005, 10:33 AM
That would be nice. Not an awesome player by any means, but he can play.

CosmicPal
03-22-2005, 10:35 AM
I wouldn't give them any more than a fourth rounder for him. And maybe a side of fries.

Hoover
03-22-2005, 10:38 AM
Good back up

Bwana
03-22-2005, 10:40 AM
Good back up

Yep, but a Band-Aid for what we really need.

alanm
03-22-2005, 10:41 AM
Why trade for him if he's going to be released? Oh wait. That's Carls way of doing business. :banghead:

the Talking Can
03-22-2005, 10:41 AM
Good back up

translation: Carl is salivating

Bootlegged
03-22-2005, 10:42 AM
He's a definite upgrade over our current crop. I'm on board if it could actually happen.

Kclee
03-22-2005, 10:42 AM
Why trade for a guy if they are going to cut him? He would be a good nickel back/starter while Warfield is on suspension.


Because if he gets cut, that doesn't make him a Chief. On the open market his price could get driven up by other teams.

buddha
03-22-2005, 10:42 AM
The only question you have to ask is:

Is he better than William Bartee?

By definition...ANYBODY would be, so he would be a welcome addition at the right price.

Bootlegged
03-22-2005, 10:47 AM
PRO CAREER: Chicago's active leader with 44 career pass defenses also ranks 2nd among all active Bears with 8 career INTs while starting 31-of-41 games played at CB the last 3 seasons ... Versatile performer excelled as Chicago's punt returner in 2003, after seeing limited time in the role throughout his Bears career, while posting the second-highest INT total of his career ... Owns 4 career TDs, 2 on defensive returns and 2 on punt returns ... Earned All-Pro honors at CB in 2001 while starting at LCB in all 16 games for the first time in his career and posting career-highs in INTs, PDs, and tackles ... Played primarily as an extra DB his first season in Chicago, highlighted by a 61-yard INT return that resulted in his first career defensive TD ... Began NFL career with 2 years in San Francisco, serving as the team's primary kickoff and punt returner while starting 11-of-27 games at CB, with 91 tackles, 13 PDs and 1 INT.

tyton75
03-22-2005, 10:52 AM
he's a player.. simple as that... he's not a top tier guy or anything... but he'll go out there and bust his @ss! If we got him right now.. he would probably be just a shade under Warfield as far as talent at the position.. so I say go for it

if the price is right

TRR
03-22-2005, 10:57 AM
McQuarters is a game changer. If he gets his hands on the football, he is a threat to take it all the way. He has good size as well.

Adding RW would add what Bell and Knight do...Playmaking ability.

Skip Towne
03-22-2005, 10:58 AM
He's a good guy from Oklahoma State. Sign him.

Eleazar
03-22-2005, 11:00 AM
He's allright. An upgrade but nothing all that special.

old_geezer
03-22-2005, 11:01 AM
This makes absolute sense from Peterson's way of thinking. Damned if I'll give up a 2nd rounder for an all-pro like Surtain, but a 3rd or 4th for McQuarters is fine. Look at the money I'll save and I can pretend I've gotten the CB I coveted all along.

Hammock Parties
03-22-2005, 11:02 AM
He'd be a good punt returner too in the event that Dante gets hurt.

dave0320
03-22-2005, 11:02 AM
Don't we lose Warfield for the 1st 4 games?

Wile_E_Coyote
03-22-2005, 11:05 AM
The Chiefs have 1 pick in each of the first 4 rounds( 3rd for Tait) & 3-#5s, 2-#6s, 2-#7s. They can trade http://www.nfl.com/draft/drafttracker/round/round7

AirForceChief
03-22-2005, 11:06 AM
Don't we lose Warfield for the 1st 4 games?

My understanding is it will be 2 - 4 games...

Eleazar
03-22-2005, 11:06 AM
Now that I think about it, this looks like Carl's move. There are two top-flight guys available but he'll sign McQuarters who will come cheap and we'll just have to hope he is "good enough".

kchero
03-22-2005, 11:13 AM
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12556

Check him out...lol...

# 21 R.W. McQuarters
Position: DB
Height: 5-10
Weight: 195
Born: 12/21/1976
College: Oklahoma State
NFL Experience: 8

Career Stats | Game Logs: 01 02 03 04 | Situational Stats | Team Roster



DEFENSIVE STATS

Year Team G Total Tckl Ast Sacks Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def
1998 San Francisco 49ers 16 53 49.0 4 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 11
1999 San Francisco 49ers 11 29 26.0 3 0 1 25 25.0 25 0 4
2000 Chicago Bears 15 33 24.0 9 1 1 61 61.0 61 1 1
2001 Chicago Bears 16 78 64.0 14 1 3 47 15.7 43 0 12
2002 Chicago Bears 9 43 35.0 8 0 1 33 33.0 33 0 1
2003 Chicago Bears 16 46 38.0 8 0 2 72 36.0 43 0 5
2004 Chicago Bears 16 67 55.0 12 0 2 85 42.5 45 1 7
TOTAL 99 349 291.0 58 2 10 323 32.3 61 2 41


KICK RETURNS

bricks
03-22-2005, 11:18 AM
Didn't McQuarters make the probowl before? I don't know why some of you would complain about McQuarters. He would be a nice upgrade over the other scrubs we have. I'd like him as a Chief.

penchief
03-22-2005, 11:28 AM
Can he tackle?

tomahawk kid
03-22-2005, 11:32 AM
I watched enough Bears game last season to tell you that McQuarters would be a minimal upgrade.

From what I've seen, the dude gets burnt alot.

TRR
03-22-2005, 11:34 AM
I am all for it as long as McQ isn't the only CB we add...

He is an upgrade over McCleon, Bartee and Sapp.

Plus he and Dante back on kickoffs would be suicide for kickoffs teams.

the Talking Can
03-22-2005, 11:38 AM
I watched enough Bears game last season to tell you that McQuarters would be a minimal upgrade.

From what I've seen, the dude gets burnt alot.

maybe if we spliced McDonalds/McDyson/McHerndon/ together we'd get McCleon II and then CP could make him our "priority #1" in FA?

Archie Bunker
03-22-2005, 11:43 AM
I watched enough Bears game last season to tell you that McQuarters would be a minimal upgrade.

From what I've seen, the dude gets burnt alot.

He was moved to nickle and then to FS. He sounds like a glorified McCleon to me. I would rather have Hill or Edwards than McQuarters IMO.

AirForceChief
03-22-2005, 11:53 AM
I'm all for adding even a 'middle-tier' player like McQ-. He'd step in as #2/3 CB and allow any CB drafted at least a chance to get aclimated to the pro game before being thrown onto 'the island'...Face it, he'd be an upgrade.

Sure-Oz
03-22-2005, 12:07 PM
Yeah id take him, if we can wait till hes cut and then sign that would be great!

Cannibal
03-22-2005, 12:16 PM
Well what do ya know, Carl is looking at a 2nd tier guy when we need two top tier guys.

That's Carla for ya.

Logical
03-22-2005, 12:21 PM
Well what do ya know, Carl is looking at a 2nd tier guy when we need two top tier guys.

That's Carla for ya.Exactly

vckcchiefs04
03-22-2005, 12:22 PM
OK...... look if we got him today he would be at least on the same level as Warfield, and IMO a step above having played at a All-Pro level. He would be a starter for the Chiefs right now, and is a hell of a return man to pair with Dante or give Dante a break if he got banged up at all. No he is not a "TOP TIER CB"..... but what does that mean now? Champ Bailey was labled that when the donks got them, be he had his fair share of getting toasted this past season......... there are NO shut down corners anymore, not with the new rules for CB's, but there are plenty good cover corners who have the ability to "TURN THIER FREAKIN HEADS" once in a while.

brent102fire
03-22-2005, 12:27 PM
That would be nice. Not an awesome player by any means, but he can play.

Anyone can play CB better than Burntee...I think Stevie Wonder would be better than Burntee, atleast Stevie knows how to turn his head :shake:

Sure-Oz
03-22-2005, 12:31 PM
Get him and Surtain that would be good!

Cannibal
03-22-2005, 12:36 PM
Get him and Surtain that would be good!

If he got RW and Surtain, I would be happy with that. But that's not Carl's MO. He'll sign RW and some fuggin scrub we've never heard of and that will be it.

Mr. Laz
03-22-2005, 12:39 PM
This makes absolute sense from Peterson's way of thinking. Damned if I'll give up a 2nd rounder for an all-pro like Surtain, but a 3rd or 4th for McQuarters is fine. Look at the money I'll save and I can pretend I've gotten the CB I coveted all along.
that's so true it's painful :deevee:

Saulbadguy
03-22-2005, 12:43 PM
Can he play Safety?

Archie Bunker
03-22-2005, 12:46 PM
Can he play Safety?

He was a FS last year.

brent102fire
03-22-2005, 01:21 PM
CeePee will end up trading the 3rd rounder for McQuarters and probably pay him about the same as he would have paid Surtain. UNF*CKINGBELIEVABLE! CeePee and :deevee: have both lost their minds.

Chief Faithful
03-22-2005, 01:27 PM
I always liked McQuarters because he was an underdog to make the Bears his rookie year and always surprised me with his attitude and effort. He excelled in zone coverage and was not afraid to hit hard. He is a scrappy players that would immediately be the number two CB on the roster. He advanced from the dime package to starter by the begining of his second season. He played the same side as Warfield as a CB.

McQuarters would be an upgrade. If the Chiefs can get McQuarters and either Rogers or Rolle in the draft then I would be pleased.

ChiefsCountry
03-22-2005, 01:28 PM
I always liked McQuarters because he was an underdog to make the Bears his rookie year and always surprised me with his attitude and effort. He excelled in zone coverage and was not afraid to hit hard. He is a scrappy players that would immediately be the number two CB on the roster. He advanced from the dime package to starter by the begining of his second season. He played the same side as Warfield as a CB.

McQuarters would be an upgrade. If the Chiefs can get McQuarters and either Rogers or Rolle in the draft then I would be pleased.

McQuarters an underdog? He was a first round pick of the 49ers.

HipHopper4Life
03-22-2005, 01:31 PM
I always liked McQuarters because he was an underdog to make the Bears his rookie year and always surprised me with his attitude and effort.


That's funny because he was a 49er his rookie year after being a high pick that they traded up for at that.

go bo
03-22-2005, 01:49 PM
PRO CAREER: Chicago's active leader with 44 career pass defenses also ranks 2nd among all active Bears with 8 career INTs while starting 31-of-41 games played at CB the last 3 seasons ... Versatile performer excelled as Chicago's punt returner in 2003, after seeing limited time in the role throughout his Bears career, while posting the second-highest INT total of his career ... Owns 4 career TDs, 2 on defensive returns and 2 on punt returns ... Earned All-Pro honors at CB in 2001 while starting at LCB in all 16 games for the first time in his career and posting career-highs in INTs, PDs, and tackles ... Played primarily as an extra DB his first season in Chicago, highlighted by a 61-yard INT return that resulted in his first career defensive TD ... Began NFL career with 2 years in San Francisco, serving as the team's primary kickoff and punt returner while starting 11-of-27 games at CB, with 91 tackles, 13 PDs and 1 INT.all that sounds promising enough, but why does chicago want to cut or trade him?

Skip Towne
03-22-2005, 01:59 PM
The rules changes have handcuffed the "shutdown CB". I don't think it is wise to pay top dollar for what used to be. I'll bet the Donks would agree. McQuarters will be just fine for us under the present rules.

go bo
03-22-2005, 02:14 PM
The rules changes have handcuffed the "shutdown CB". I don't think it is wise to pay top dollar for what used to be. I'll bet the Donks would agree. McQuarters will be just fine for us under the present rules.i totally agree that the rule enforcement crap has made the superstar cb a thing of the past...

i'd rather have this guy (unless there's something wrong with him which makes chicago want to let him go)...

and have enough cap room left to at least get a true olb, instead of paying law or surtain a gazillion bucks and making do with the olb's we have...

i think bell should play mlb, which leaves our weakside lb position to an injured barber or beisel or fox...

i don't think the coaches will seriously consider mitchell for the weakside backer position - they still need a backup to bell in the middle...

and, who knows, mitchell might someday show us why he was drafted in the second round to play mlb... (well, a guy can hope, can't he?)

keg in kc
03-22-2005, 02:22 PM
all that sounds promising enough, but why does chicago want to cut or trade him?Because he really, really, really, really, really *breath* really, really, really, really, really sucks.

go bo
03-22-2005, 02:32 PM
Because he really, really, really, really, really *breath* really, really, really, really, really sucks.but but but, he's not only a cb, he's played free safety for the bears...

we need another safety don't we?

we've only got like a dozen of so now... :(

Skip Towne
03-22-2005, 02:38 PM
CeePee will end up trading the 3rd rounder for McQuarters and probably pay him about the same as he would have paid Surtain. UNF*CKINGBELIEVABLE! CeePee and :deevee: have both lost their minds.
Carl won't trade the 3rd rounder simply because he can't. Compensatory picks can't be traded.

go bo
03-22-2005, 02:40 PM
and surtain's contract as written now calls for a 2005 salary of 5.9 million or thereabouts...

much more expensive than mcquarters...

dtrain
03-22-2005, 03:50 PM
He was moved to nickle and then to FS. He sounds like a glorified McCleon to me. I would rather have Hill or Edwards than McQuarters IMO.

Doesn't it make sense to sign those two and save the draft picks to possibly move up in the draft?

keg in kc
03-22-2005, 04:11 PM
and surtain's contract as written now calls for a 2005 salary of 5.9 million or thereabouts...Surtain's contract as written now is irrelevant; a new contract is prerequisite to that trade.

Archie Bunker
03-22-2005, 06:33 PM
Doesn't it make sense to sign those two and save the draft picks to possibly move up in the draft?

Absolutely. Trading anything for McQuarters is ridiculous.

Chief Faithful
03-23-2005, 09:48 AM
McQuarters an underdog? He was a first round pick of the 49ers.

Sorry, I move away from Chicago over 3 years ago and I confused McQuarters with Jerry Azumah. I don't really know anything about McQuarters, but I would like it if the Chiefs obtained Azumah.

InChiefsHeaven
03-23-2005, 10:16 AM
We don't need this guy. He is another Mcleon\Sapp as far as height...just because he is better than Bartee is no reason to jump on him unless he is super cheap...next...

Sure-Oz
03-23-2005, 10:37 AM
I'd wait till he gets cut and sign him, he might be decent, we still need to trade for surtain but mccquarters would help.