anyone out there? I need to talk

[Brando]

bitch called the 5-0 on me tonight because we were having an argument. since she knows I would never hurt her she told them that I was trying to hurt myself. I got lucky. Cops talked to both of us and called BS and told her that she needed to go somewhere else. when they first showed up they said that they would have to take me to the looney bin for a 96 hour evaluation. luckily the officer was pretty understanding.

[chappy]

holy sh!t is that greg robinson?

[chappy]

sorry about your luck man women suck. just got to go with the flow and forget about that crazy chick

[tk13]

Errr, that really sucks. I hate giving marital and relationship advice and such, but from everything I've read I think it would be in your best interest to get as far away from this woman as possible. It's sad that she has just snapped like this...

[Brando]

I looked at a few places. Nothing till next month. I'm thinking about moving in with a buddy in Parkville. Everything was very cool earlier. She was extremely kind and nurturing. I went out to watch the game. Came home and asked her to talk as long as she was going to be in the house. She got in my face screaming. I yelled back. I said that I was going to leave and she would never hear from me again. She asked where I was going and I said to get drunk and pass out in a gutter. She decides to call the cops and tell them that I'm going to harm myself.

[Brando]

From the limited information you've posted on here, that sounds like it might be a good idea. At least temporarily until you can find something more permanent. If cops are getting involved, sounds like it's just time to get the f*ck out of there post haste.
The cop told me to get my shit out before she messed with it. She actually said this to him when he asked her what was wrong with me, "what's wrong with me? he's perfect. he's caring, loving, just perfect. why did I screw this up?"

[Brando]

Obviously I've never been engaged, but I've had my fair share of experiences with nutty broads. All I can say is run. Run fast. Run far. Too bad I'm too stupid to follow my own advice. Friday night I found myself in a hotel room with the craziest female I've ever dated.
It's impossible to stay away from nutty broads. They're all nuts.

[big nasty kcnut]

Run brando get out of the house you don't know what shit she might pull next like hitting you and stuff like that leave and find a good woman.

[mcan]

So, she's starting to feel the loss. It happens man. I'm sorry she handles it so badly. When my parents were still together, and I was just a kid, the cops used to come over quite a bit. My Mom is crazy, and my Dad is close. Both were/are alcoholics. It's amazing that I turned out as normal as I did. I think the biggest reason for that is the fact that I decided when I was a little kid that I would NEVER drink. I've kept that promise to myself, and I'm glad I did.


So, just to clarify. Did you give her ANY impression that you might hurt yourself besides the gutter comment? Is there any possibility that she might have honestly been worried about that? Or, do you think she just needed to do something extreme to try and "win?" My mom does that kind of sh!t when she is losing an argument. She has: Thrown scissors at my Dad (that stuck in the wall), punched a giant pane of glass in a cabinet and cut herself to the bone, written hate poetry on the walls in sharpie, and the last time she did this she actually set herself ON FIRE! That's right, my step-dad and her were arguing, and he said, "I'm done with this conversation, I'm going to bed." Then she said, "No you're not!" and took the grill lighter and lit her clothes and hair on fire. He had to tackle her and put her out, and take her to the emergency room for extreme burns.


I'm only saying all this to illustrate the type of person that makes extreme, rash, illogical, and potentially catastrophic choices in the heat of the moment. These kinds of people do things ON PRINCIPLE, just to show the world how RIGHT they are, even if it makes no real sense at all. If you think that she might have been motivated in a similar way as this, then you should be extra glad that you're getting out of there. She might end up like my mother, and I feel sorry for anybody who has to live with someone like that...

[Taco John]

The cop told me to get my shit out before she messed with it. She actually said this to him when he asked her what was wrong with me, "what's wrong with me? he's perfect. he's caring, loving, just perfect. why did I screw this up?"



What's the story with her father? Good guy? Absent?

If you want to know why a girl is screwed up, the first place you look is her relationship with her father. Something happened there that makes her want to sabotage her relationships.

You could make it work with her, but it'd take a lot of work, and you'd both need to be in counseling... probably together and alone.

Her calling the cops was a cry for help. She's frustrated that she screwed this thing up and once you left, she lost control of the situation. It doesn't sound like she did it out of spite. Especially given the comment she made to the cop. That was a message intended for you, whether she even realizes it or not. Human communication is a fascinating thing.

She's stuck in a pretty destructive cycle... Probably feels like her life is out of control... Sounds like she's pretty flitty, and just acts on impulse without thinking through the consequences. Not sure what the energy between her and her father is, but I'm sure that it about completes the picture. Sounds like a high maintenance one... Of course they all are...

If she hasn't slept with the dude yet, and you care enough to swallow some pride, I'm telling ya... You can make it work. But the question is whether SHE is willing to do the work to make it work. She needs a therapist to work out why she is so self destructive. And to do that, she needs to come to grips with the fact that there is something wrong upstairs that might need adjusted. And even then... Just like Alcoholics... Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic.

Personally, I think I'd bail. Thank God I didn't take my Interpersonal Communication Theory classes until after I was in a long term relationship with a girl who didn't need rescued from herself or I might have ended up with a real project on my hands.

[HolmeZz]

AIN'T THE 5-0, Y'ALL KNOW IT'Z NAS, YO.

[Manila-Chief]

Brando,

Been busy and just saw this. Hopefully, you are getting your zzzz by now. You do need rest in these situations.

I agree with the cop. Get your stuff out of there ASAP. If you have no where else for it ... then take it to one of those temp. storage places.... a little costly but safer for you and your things.

She called the cops over nothing ... there is no telling what such a women will do. She may do something to herself and blame it on you, just to get you into trouble.

Whose name is your present lease? If possible let her have the responsibility for settling with the landlord. She is the one who decided to end it, therefore it should be her responsibility to settle all accounts. But, if the lease is under your name be sure all items are settled ... I say that for the sake of your credit rating.

But, yeah man!!!! Get out of there now!!!! Don't trust her and don't even talk with her.

Seems to me that what happened is she has realized she made a big mistake by dumping you. That realization caused her to feel guilty and thus the screaming at you. She was actually irritated because of her mistake. In a way she was fighting herself.

I just stopped and prayed for you.

[Bob Dole]

As someone who went through 5+ years of this type of crap, Bob Dole would have to agree with the "run away" course of action.

The passive-aggressive behavior that you're telling us about is all too familiar. While she may have problems that she needs to address, they are <b>her</b> problems and aren't your responsibility. Don't fool yourslef into believing that your love and support can help her through. She's already illustrated that she's too selfish for it to matter.

[Simplex3]

I looked at a few places. Nothing till next month. I'm thinking about moving in with a buddy in Parkville. Everything was very cool earlier. She was extremely kind and nurturing. I went out to watch the game. Came home and asked her to talk as long as she was going to be in the house. She got in my face screaming. I yelled back. I said that I was going to leave and she would never hear from me again. She asked where I was going and I said to get drunk and pass out in a gutter. She decides to call the cops and tell them that I'm going to harm myself.
Ah ha! Here is your issue. She thinks you're just all torn up over her and can't possibly be Ok. Here's what you need to do:

Come home with a hooker. Late. She doesn't need to know it's a hooker and the pro sure won't tell her if you let her in on the game. Show up late. Bust open the bedroom door, hooker on your arm, and tell this bitch "hey, can you go sleep on the couch? I just met this chick at (local hangout) and we need some time alone."

Now, it doesn't matter if she leaves the room or not, the damage will be done. Hell, you don't even have to actually sleep with the pro (which means any common escort who's willing to act will work), just so long as she thinks you did.

A cheaper variant of this which packs even a little more punch: if you have a female friend that is yours, not hers, and willing to do a little acting, you can actually get the above benefits AND make her have to wonder how long you two have been doing it.

By all means, you need to show this bitch she isn't running your life. Stay with a friend, get a hotel room, SOMETHING.

[Simplex3]

...and the last time she did this she actually set herself ON FIRE! That's right, my step-dad and her were arguing, and he said, "I'm done with this conversation, I'm going to bed." Then she said, "No you're not!" and took the grill lighter and lit her clothes and hair on fire. He had to tackle her and put her out, and take her to the emergency room for extreme burns.
WOW. You know, after a year or so of that abuse I might have gone for the marshmellows instead of putting her out. No offense, her being your mom and all, but that's absurd.

[teedubya]

Yo Brando... get a storage unit for one month, and rent a hotel room or something for the rest of this month.

Get away from psychokunt.

[trndobrd]

When in doubt, always listen to Paul Simon. He knows.

The problem is all inside your head
She said to me
The answer is easy if you
Take it logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free
There must be fifty ways
To leave your lover

She said it's really not my habit
To intrude
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
But I'll repeat myself
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave your lover
Fifty ways to leave your lover

CHORUS:
You Just slip out the back, Jack
Make a new plan, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee
And get yourself free

She said it grieves me so
To see you in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
To make you smile again
I said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

She said why don't we both
Just sleep on it tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to see the light
And then she kissed me
And I realized she probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave your lover
Fifty ways to leave your lover

CHORUS

[KCWolfman]

When in doubt, always listen to Paul Simon. He knows.



Hmm, I always thought the song was There Must Be 50 Ways to Love Your Lever.

[morphius]

One should never really underestimate the sound of one hundred friends yelling, "RUN!!!" at the same time. When that happens, don't look back, just book it the F out of there. Not only does this hold true for relationships, but also works well for fireworks displays and many other deadly moments.

[MOhillbilly]

wish the hardest thing i had to deal w/ was some skank playing w/ my head.

seems like along time ago id let a bitch get me down.

dont worry someday something will come along and break you and everything you thought was a big deal before wont matter anymore.

[morphius]

wish the hardest thing i had to deal w/ was some skank playing w/ my head.

seems like along time ago id let a bitch get me down.

dont worry someday something will come along and break you and everything you thought was a big deal before wont matter anymore.

Now there are some words of encouragement...

Morphius
Pardon me, I think I have a suicide to attend to...

[Mark M]

Two words:

Restraining order.

MM
~~:eek:

[Duck Dog]

Two words:

Restraining order.

MM
~~:eek:


Yep. Be proactive and get a restraining order. It will force her to stop fugging with you.

[Fat Elvis]

http://members.cox.net/gumpisms/run.jpg

Run, Forrest, Run!

[Rain Man]

Yo Brando... get a storage unit for one month, and rent a hotel room or something for the rest of this month.

Get away from psychokunt.

Yep, yep, yep. Clear everything out of the house when she's not there (including the TV, dammit), and just get away from her. She's nothing but trouble. Just clear out.

[Phobia]

Dude - you can get one of those hotel suites by the week for $150-200. Do that or go to the buddy's home. The next cop isn't gonna be as understanding as this one was. During my period with the ex-wife where we were deciding to get divorced, the cops were called more than half a dozen times - all by her except once. I got hauled off twice and she spent the night in jail the one time I called them. Nobody was in danger any of those times, it was part of the posturing and gamesmanship of the split. You're gonna spend the night in jail the next time and probably $1500 on an attorney like I did.

[Phobia]

FWIW, I saw this one coming a mile away. I've been there. The dude's pride dictates he has everything under control. My friends were all telling me the same things you see on this thread. It wasn't until afterwards when I saw how screwed up I was.

We can't force you to do anything, Brandon. We can offer sound advice with no emotional attachment. Every decision you make at this point is based on emotion. You won't likely make good decisions under those circumstances.

[ChiTown]

Dude - you can get one of those hotel suites by the week for $150-200. Do that or go to the buddy's home. The next cop isn't gonna be as understanding as this one was. During my period with the ex-wife where we were deciding to get divorced, the cops were called more than half a dozen times - all by her except once. I got hauled off twice and she spent the night in jail the one time I called them. Nobody was in danger any of those times, it was part of the posturing and gamesmanship of the split. You're gonna spend the night in jail the next time and probably $1500 on an attorney like I did.

Yep.

Same thing happened to my brother with his ex-wife.. Get out immediately, put your chit in storage and separate yourself from that bidge for good. After 11 years, my brother is still trying to recover from all the damage (financial and otherwise) that his ex did to him.

Good luck.

[Bwana]

Two words:

Restraining order.

MM
~~:eek:

Darn right, pack your bags, put your things in storage and get a restraining order before the gunt really snaps and decides to stick you with a steak knife. It sounds like things have regressed to the level where it's not safe around there.

[R&GHomer]

Just be thankful she pulled this shit before you got married and had kids. I'm currently getting divorced and my wife is being a total bitch.

We got into an argument about a month ago and I broke a picture... My picture, an award I got while in the service before I even met her. The cops show up and they took me to jail because of the picture. I explained to the officer that I broke it on my desk and that she wasn't even in the room, but did that matter? Hell NO! What a bunch of ****ing crap. Oh, and they would not let me bond out without seeing a judge, and then they wouldn't let me go home for three ****ing days.

I didn't even have a record! nada zip. Not even a ****ing speeding ticket in the last 13 years. YES I'M Bitter! **** the system if they are going to treat people like that.

[Iowanian]

Don't just Run...........Put on the fargin Rocket Skates.

Load you shit, including your HD TV and put it in storage and stay with a friend until you get a new pad.

This Broad is doing you a huge favor....Leave her a thank you note when you go.

[Brock]

Move. Today. Right now.

[Braincase]

Don't just Run...........Put on the fargin Rocket Skates.

Load you shit, including your HD TV and put it in storage and stay with a friend until you get a new pad.

This Broad is doing you a huge favor....Leave her a thank you note when you go.

At this point, you're better off staying in a U-Store-It garage. Get a membership to the Y so you have a place to shower, then find a good sports by the storage unit. Weather's nice, grab a cot... and swipe your TV...

[Mr. Laz]

so why do you have to leave?


man, next time that bitch leaves change the locks and throw her stuff out on the front lawn!!


she ain't your wife, she doesn't get half

[MOhillbilly]

so whos the woman here?

[Simplex3]

so whos the woman here?
Or, more aptly put, who ISN'T the woman here?


:D

[Yosef_Malkovitch]

Better run. No telling how crazy she'll get next time.

[MOhillbilly]

Better run. No telling how crazy she'll get next time.

**** that show the bitch what crazy really is!!!!!!!!!!!

[Simplex3]

F*ck slittin' her throat, cut that bitch's head off!
You want him to go all "Iraqi Insurgent" on her?

I thought we were telling him to leave so that he DIDN'T spend time in the clink?

[keg in kc]

Get you and your stuff out of there as fast as possible. I'd even take a sick day. She may or may not be crazy or capable of doing anything that could physically hurt you, but it's not a good place to be, regardless.so why do you have to leave?One good reason is because if he moves into a new place she won't know where to find him.

[Simplex3]

It's a line from an Eminem song. MOHillbilly's post reminded me of it. I just wanted to beat Demonpenz to posting it.
:spock: Huh. And people wonder why rap is considered violent.

So, when does Eminem become the next Vanilla Ice?

[Rain Man]

**** that show the bitch what crazy really is!!!!!!!!!!!


Y'know, you really missed your calling as a nuclear missile silo captain.

[memyselfI]

bitch called the 5-0 on me tonight because we were having an argument. since she knows I would never hurt her she told them that I was trying to hurt myself. I got lucky. Cops talked to both of us and called BS and told her that she needed to go somewhere else. when they first showed up they said that they would have to take me to the looney bin for a 96 hour evaluation. luckily the officer was pretty understanding.

You know, at first I felt sorry for you and thought this woman was really a biotch for doing what she did...

but the fact that you are still TALKING to her (after her previous shenanigans) leads me to believe there is something in you that accepts and tolerates her mistreatment and thus my sorrow for you might be misplaced. :shake:

[MOhillbilly]

You know, at first I felt sorry for you and thought this woman was really a biotch for doing what she did...

but the fact that you are still TALKING to her (after her previous shenanigans) leads me to believe there is something in you that accepts her mistreatment and thus my sorrow for you might be misplaced. :shake:

did the sky just fall?


or hes to ugly to get another woman.Or has a really tiny wang.

[MOhillbilly]

God forbid it takes the guy a week to end a two year relationship.

thats why god invented more than one woman.

and whiskey.

[memyselfI]

did the sky just fall?


or hes to ugly to get another woman.Or has a really tiny wang.

I don't know but his going back for MORE leads me to believe there is more to this story than we are hearing...

[memyselfI]

God forbid it takes the guy a week to end a two year relationship.

Even one where the woman leaves you for another man even though the man is someone else's man??? :hmmm: :shake:

I mean, come on. Wake TFU.

[keg in kc]

but the fact that you are still TALKING to her (after her previous shenanigans) leads me to believe there is something in you that accepts and tolerates her mistreatment and thus my sorrow for you might be misplaced. That's a strange thing to say. I'd feel even more sorrow for him if that's the way it is. If that is the case, hopefully this will have been enough of a shock to overcome that masochism or insecurity. If that's the case, which I'm not convinced. It's normal to hang on a little, it's part of the grieving process.

Either way, it's time to go.

[Simplex3]

I don't know but his going back for MORE leads me to believe there is more to this story than we are hearing...
If you'd check your history you'd find out they're living together. He could probably have worked harder to get out sooner but he might have financial issues with that, we don't know.

[MOhillbilly]

I don't know but his going back for MORE leads me to believe there is more to this story than we are hearing...

some guys like to be kicked.......reminds them of there mothers.

[morphius]

memyself - They share a residence and pets, so he didn't just kick the bitch to the street, I guess we should all throw rocks at him for being an asshole, huh?

[memyselfI]

That's a strange thing to say. I'd feel even more sorrow for him if that's the way it is. If that is the case, hopefully this will have been enough of a shock to overcome that masochism or insecurity. If that's the case, which I'm not convinced. It's normal to hang on a little, it's part of the grieving process.

Either way, it's time to go.

Fine, but no one should be placing blame completely on the woman for the dysfunction...blame them BOTH.

[MOhillbilly]

he doesnt have friends?

[MOhillbilly]

Emotional concerns aside, there's logistics issues. He's got a house full of shit to deal with.

Yes, I think it's clear he needs to get out of there and sever ties with, and I've told him so myself. But, I'm not gonna say he's undeserving of sympathy just because he wasn't able to magically whisk away all his worldly posessions and disappear from her life the split second she told him there was a problem.

ROFL hahaha i own my house so they gotta leave....it rules!

[morphius]

Fine, but no one should be placing blame completely on the woman for the dysfunction...blame them BOTH.
Oh good lord!

Its his fault he fell for a bitch, DAMN HIM!!! Now hand over the rocks so we can stone him!

[Rain Man]

Fine, but no one should be placing blame completely on the woman for the dysfunction...blame them BOTH.


She's cheating on him with a married man. That argues pretty strongly for blaming her exclusively.

[Chiefnj]

If you aren't going to date her anyore, can I have her number??





-just kidding.

[memyselfI]

memyself - They share a residence and pets, so he didn't just kick the bitch to the street, I guess we should all throw rocks at him for being an asshole, huh?

Hey, he had every RIGHT to kick her to the street if she said she did not love him and he was being replaced by her EX. There is nothing left to argue about. She walked out on HIM and thus voided their relationship. Change the locks and send her her stuff.

DO NOT put yourself in a situation where you are in a he said/she said type of predicament. He can't trust her anymore. End of story.

[Rain Man]

If you aren't going to date her anyore, can I have her number??





-just kidding.


Look on your nearest bathroom wall.

[Simplex3]

Fine, but no one should be placing blame completely on the woman for the dysfunction...blame them BOTH.
So he stuck that married guy's c**k in his fiance?

[morphius]

Hey, he had every RIGHT to kick her to the street if she said she did not love him and he was being replaced by her EX. There is nothing left to argue about. She walked out on HIM and thus voided their relationship. Change the locks and send her her stuff.

DO NOT put yourself in a situation where you are in a he said/she said type of predicament. He can't trust her anymore. End of story.
Just because one can be a complete dick and throw a tantrum about it, doesn't mean that he is an idiot when he doesn't.

Hell, he could have beat her ass for it to and literally kicked her cheating ass to the curb. Would that have been a more approriate route in your opinion?

[memyselfI]

So he stuck that married guy's c**k in his fiance?

No, that he is still trying to deal with her in a rational fashion. He probably should not even be in a room with her unless there is a third party there. She cannot be trusted.

Look, she made a choice that her EX was more important than their residence, their pets, their relationship, etc. He should be holding her to that.

[memyselfI]

Just because one can be a complete dick and throw a tantrum about it, doesn't mean that he is an idiot when he doesn't.

Hell, he could have beat her ass for it to and literally kicked her cheating ass to the curb. Would that have been a more approriate route in your opinion?

No, this isn't about being a violent jerk. This is about protecting his financial, emotional, legal, and mental interests because he's been told he's no longer needed or wanted.

[Mr. Laz]

One good reason is because if he moves into a new place she won't know where to find him.

good point ...


if he doesn't own the place ... next time she leaves just take a day off, rent a big truck, empty the place out and leave no forwarding address.



of course, she can still hunt him down at work :shrug:

[Simplex3]

good point ...


if he doesn't own the place ... next time she leaves just take a day off, rent a big truck, empty the place out and leave no forwarding address.



of course, she can still hunt him down at work :shrug:
He did commit an enormous error when he shit in his own back yard at work.

[keg in kc]

Fine, but no one should be placing blame completely on the woman for the dysfunction...blame them BOTH.Well, I've been unusually tactful and sensitive (for me) about this. He apparently knew she'd had an affair with this married guy before, which to me was something he should have been concerned with to begin with, but sometimes it's hard to see that kind of thing when you're the one in the relationship.

Frankly, I think it's pointless and a little low to be jumping on the guy like this. He's come here obviously with some degree of pain and confusion. You support someone like that, you don't yell at him that it's his fault. That kind of thing you talk about later, after the hurt wears off a little. There's not really anything to be gained from berating him now. It's insensitive and it comes across as hurtful, in my opinion. That kind of insensitivity is not something you'd throw out at someone you're trying to help, and I think by and large we're all trying to be helpful.

[morphius]

No, this isn't about being a violent jerk. This is about protecting his financial, emotional, legal, and mental interests because he's been told he's no longer needed or wanted.
Ohhh, os you are for him taking immediate extreme measures, but not EXTREME measures. When you and your husband split did you automatically divorce him and change all the locks on the door, or did it take you more then 2 days to do everything?

[memyselfI]

Ohhh, os you are for him taking immediate extreme measures, but not EXTREME measures. When you and your husband split did you automatically divorce him and change all the locks on the door, or did it take you more then 2 days to do everything?

If he had done what she did then damn right, I would have.

[memyselfI]

Well, I've been unusually tactful and sensitive (for me) about this. He apparently knew she'd had an affair with this married guy before, which to me was something he should have been concerned with to begin with, but sometimes it's hard to see that kind of thing when you're the one in the relationship.

Frankly, I think it's pointless and a little low to be jumping on the guy like this. He's come here obviously with some degree of pain and confusion. You support someone like that, you don't yell at him that it's his fault. That kind of thing you talk about later, after the hurt wears off a little. There's not really anything to be gained from berating him now. It's insensitive and it comes across as hurtful, in my opinion. That kind of insensitivity is not something you'd throw out at someone you're trying to help, and I think by and large we're all trying to be helpful.


Like I said, there is more to this story. No one is jumping on him but instead saying 'WAKE UP'. I mean how many more red flags need there be? He needs to start looking out for his number one...and that should be HIM.

[morphius]

Like I said, there is more to this story. No one is jumping on him but instead saying 'WAKE UP'. I mean how many more red flags need there be? He needs to start looking out for his number one...and that should be HIM.
I think the first 30 posts saying "RUN" kind of covered that, without kicking him or pointing fingers in the process...

[keg in kc]

I think the first 30 posts saying "RUN" kind of covered that, without kicking him or pointing fingers in the process...Not to mention the whole other thread where we were all telling him to get out and never look back.

[morphius]

Not to mention the whole other thread where we were all telling him to get out and never look back.
Exactly. For someone who thinks they are compassionate, she really just doesn't get it.

[Ultra Peanut]

Good Lord. Your situation just keeps getting shittier and shittierHe brought this on himself by tempting fate and saying, "It can't get any worse than this," when Cuse hired Knobinson.

[keg in kc]

Exactly. For someone who thinks they are compassionate, she really just doesn't get it.Nothing she said had anything to do with compassion. She was trying to turn it around on him, until the ex-fiance goes from being the one who left to being the victim. Even if, in the end, that turns out to be true, you don't start throwing that kind of crap at the guy NOW, of all times, when he's most vulnerable.

And I call myself tactless.

[Iowanian]

Someday, a woman who posts on a message board could be drowned in a public urinal by her enraged husband.....and the posters there will understand where he is coming from.

[morphius]

Nothing she said had anything to do with compassion. She was trying to turn it around on him, until the ex-fiance goes from being the one who left to being the victim. Even if, in the end, that turns out to be true, you don't start throwing that kind of crap at the guy NOW, of all times, when he's most vulnerable.

And I call myself tactless.
Which is why I made that suggestion on the other thread, LOL!

[Phobia]

You know? A lot of the women straying types of problems could be avoided if domestic discipline had never been made illegal. How else are you supposed to keep your spouse in line?

[badgirl]

Fine, but no one should be placing blame completely on the woman for the dysfunction...blame them BOTH.
WTF? She is leaving him right of the blue for a married man, how the hell do you place the blame on both of them? If they were having problems in their relationship, she needed to break it off then go find someone else.
Thats a stupid statement memyself. :rolleyes:

[Dave Lane]

The cop told me to get my shit out before she messed with it. She actually said this to him when he asked her what was wrong with me, "what's wrong with me? he's perfect. he's caring, loving, just perfect. why did I screw this up?"

If you need a free apt in KC I got one for you. PM if you need one.

Dave

[Iowanian]

......chin music for Denses poor husband

Spare the Rod, Spoil the Broad.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

If you need a free apt in KC I got one for you. PM if you need one.

Dave


That's a pretty damn generous offer. Rep forthcoming

[keg in kc]

Spare the Rod, Spoil the Broad.I say, in that case, spare the 'rod' to keep the broad from spoiling it.

[badgirl]

I say, in that case, spare the 'rod' to keep the broad from spoiling it.
ROFL rep :clap:

[Demonpenz]

I would concentrate on making myself as happy as possible. There is much joy in recieving a check every month (and other than uncle sam's portion) it all belongs to me.

[Inspector]

I've read this and the other post so I think I can make an informed statement here.

You may have some problems with this relationship. I would advise you to reconsider marriage to this girl.

Oh, and Dave Lane - very very cool man. Rep to you!

[LiL stumppy]

Yea,I don't think they will be getting married anymore inspector.

[Inspector]

Yea,I don't think they will be getting married anymore inspector.

Yeah, I just wanted to make sure.

I'd feel badly if I found out later that he actually did marry this girl and I didn't advise him against it.

Besides, I hadn't said anything really stupid today and I was kinda gettin the shakes...

[Brando]

I don't know but his going back for MORE leads me to believe there is more to this story than we are hearing...
The fact that we were engaged means nothing. I guess I should just forget that she exists? Sorry Dr. Phil, I don't just turn my heart on and off with a fuggin' switch.

[Simplex3]

The fact that we were engaged means nothing. I guess I should just forget that she exists? Sorry Dr. Phil, I don't just turn my heart on and off with a fuggin' switch.
She can't relate. She doesn't have one of those "heart" thingys.

Come to think of it she's missing one of those "brain" thingys, too.

[Brando]

He brought this on himself by tempting fate and saying, "It can't get any worse than this," when Cuse hired Knobinson.
Rep you corksucker!

[Brando]

Someday, a woman who posts on a message board could be drowned in a public urinal by her enraged husband.....and the posters there will understand where he is coming from.

I saw that at Arrowhead last year. Oh wait...that was just JBret going for antoher drink.

[Brando]

Sorry for the multiple posts boys. I've been busy packing all day. She's outta here until I'm gone. Came over to get some shit tonight and I sat out on the front porch drinking a beer.
Things are looking up..never realized just how much porn they had on ProAdult before today.

[Frazod]

I think there's one important update we all need, Brando. The TV. I think calling the cops forfeits any claim to that badboy.

Seriously. Tell the bitch to have her sugar daddy ex-boss buy her one. 4321

[memyselfI]

Exactly. For someone who thinks they are compassionate, she really just doesn't get it.

No, I get it. What is evident is that red flags here have been ignored and people are pussy footing around the responsiblity that the dumped has for allowing the dumper to walk all over him...


I'm speaking to him the same way I would (and have) a girlfriend if she had ignored the red flags and was still trusting a guy who acted this way and she had not stopped trying to treat him with respect that he would obviously not deserve.

There is nothing left to argue about. She broke the contract. Give her back her shit and decide how much headache the rest is worth. I certainly wouldn't be giving away anything you want to keep...SHE BROKE THE DEAL, not you. Nothing for you to be arguing about.

[Simplex3]

Seriously. Tell the bitch to have her sugar daddy ex-boss buy her one. 4321
...or you'll call his wife! Shit, why didn't anyone think of blackmail until now? :banghead:

[Phobia]

That's a pretty damn generous offer. Rep forthcoming

Are we sure he didn't mean "available" instead of "free"? That's part of Dave's livelihood. I'm pretty sure he's not giving them away.

[memyselfI]

The fact that we were engaged means nothing. I guess I should just forget that she exists? Sorry Dr. Phil, I don't just turn my heart on and off with a fuggin' switch.

I'm sorry but it meant NOTHING TO HER!!! Why be a softie and be the only one it matters too?

Come one, man. You DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS.

[Simplex3]

I'm sorry but it meant NOTHING TO HER!!! Why be a softie and be the only one it matters too?

Come one, man. You DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS.
If we give YOU that TV will you go the f**k away?

[memyselfI]

ROFL I've seen many things in his two threads, but pussy footing definitely isn't one of them.

Many people were very blunt in telling him what he needed to do. The difference is, you're the only one who saw fit to assign blame to him, and suggest that he was undeserving of sympathy.

Look, I'm not blaming him for what she did. I'm telling him he need not be a nice guy right now and it's within his right to be a freakin hardass. She broke the deal, not he. She does not deserve mercy or even sentimental charity. She deserves to be dealt with the way she has dealt with him.

And that doesn't mean violence or even vulgarity. It just means that HE COMES FIRST. She made choices and the consequences need not mean he has to give up ANYTHING but her and her stuff...literally and figuratively.

[Calcountry]

Sorry for the multiple posts boys. I've been busy packing all day. She's outta here until I'm gone. Came over to get some shit tonight and I sat out on the front porch drinking a beer.
Things are looking up..never realized just how much porn they had on ProAdult before today.And why not? Did that bitch prohibit you from having a good time while she was ballin somebody else? Thats low man.

[Calcountry]

Look, I'm not blaming him for what she did. I'm telling him he need not be a nice guy right now and it's within his right to be a freakin hardass. She broke the deal, not he. She does not deserve mercy or even sentimental charity. She deserves to be DELT with the way she has DELT with him.

And that doesn't mean violence or even vulgarity. It just means that HE COMES FIRST. She made choices and the consequences need not mean he has to give up ANYTHING but her and her stuff...literally and figuratively.Yeah, just like a delt.

[keg in kc]

It just means that HE COMES FIRST.Hey, I guess I'm not the only one onboard with the grudge f*ck idea.

[memyselfI]

Hey, I guess I'm not the only one onboard with the grudge f*ck idea.

I actually think that is a very bad idea. The fact that he's been toyed with by a $*^&#()&##$)#) does not give him the right to do same in kind to some other unsuspecting soul...

sorry. :hmmm:

This is where he wants to keep his nice guy principles.

[Calcountry]

Haha... um, let's leave any discussions of my "relationships" out of this. MMkay?o tay. :p

[keg in kc]

I actually think that is a very bad idea. The fact that he's been toyed with by a $*^&#()&##$)#) does not give him the right to do same in kind to some other unsuspecting soul...

sorry. :hmmm:

This is where he wants to keep his nice guy principles.I see my humor is too subtle for you. That was simply a play on "he comes first". The grudge f*ck I mentioned, theoretically only of course, would be with the ex, not some unsuspecting soul.

(ftr, I wouldn't with the ex, leads to too much confused emotional crap. I'm a cut the umbilical kind of guy, personally)

And are you schizophrenic, or what? One minute you say " he need not be a nice guy right now and it's within his right to be a freakin hardass" and the next you're saying "This is where he wants to keep his nice guy principles."

[chiefs4me]

I see my humor is too subtle for you. That was simply a play on "he comes first". The grudge f*ck I mentioned, theoretically only of course, would be with the ex, not some unsuspecting soul.

(ftr, I wouldn't with the ex, leads to too much confused emotional crap. I'm a cut the umbilical kind of guy, personally)

And are you schizophrenic, or what? One minute you say " he need not be a nice guy right now and it's within his right to be a freakin hardass" and the next you're saying "This is where he wants to keep his nice guy principles."




What's humor to one is not always humor to another...

[keg in kc]

She's a woman. Kinda the same thing.There is that, although I think she's creeping into Shirley MacLaine territory right now.

[Rain Man]

Get...the hell...out, Brando. Ask keg. Ask me. Ask phobia. Ask anyone who's ever been in that situation. It's a 100 percent failure rate. Get your stuff and leave, and don't ever talk to her again.

[keg in kc]

What's humor to one is not always humor to another...I'll try to remember to tune my humor down for the slow class in the future.

[keg in kc]

Ask keg. Ask me. Ask phobia. Ask anyone who's ever been in that situation. Hey now! Don't be throwing me in with you psychos!

[Rain Man]

Hey now! Don't be throwing me in with you psychos!

You? You're my mentor.

[keg in kc]

You? You're my mentor.Better that than your mentos.

Does that make me your dementor?

[Frazod]

Get...the hell...out, Brando. Ask keg. Ask me. Ask phobia. Ask anyone who's ever been in that situation. It's a 100 percent failure rate. Get your stuff and leave, and don't ever talk to her again.

Seriously. Be the rare exception that actually listens to good advice. Nothing good will come from further interaction with this woman. EVER.

[Brando]

I'm getting out fellas. I'm either moving my junk to a storage unit this weekend and crashing with a couple of friends or I'm moving into a place next week. We'll see..but it's done. No worries. Now that she's out of the house I actually feel sane and content if not happy.

[Frazod]

I'm getting out fellas. I'm either moving my junk to a storage unit this weekend and crashing with a couple of friends or I'm moving into a place next week. We'll see..but it's done. No worries. Now that she's out of the house I actually feel sane and content if not happy.

Do whatever it takes to make it happen.

[memyselfI]

I see my humor is too subtle for you. That was simply a play on "he comes first". The grudge f*ck I mentioned, theoretically only of course, would be with the ex, not some unsuspecting soul.

(ftr, I wouldn't with the ex, leads to too much confused emotional crap. I'm a cut the umbilical kind of guy, personally)

And are you schizophrenic, or what? One minute you say " he need not be a nice guy right now and it's within his right to be a freakin hardass" and the next you're saying "This is where he wants to keep his nice guy principles."


Uh, in dealing with OTHER WOMEN is where he needs to keep his nice guy principles. This bitch forfeited HER right to those principles. Every women subsequent to her need not pay for her idiocy. That was my point and yes, I see you were joking but I don't think many of the guys who suggested that 'f*ck someone else quickly' option were joking.

[Phobia]

I see you were joking but I don't think many of the guys who suggested that 'f*ck someone else quickly' option were joking.
I think he should become gay. Dudes wouldn't screw him over like this. Besides, he's about waist high on the average dude. He'd be incredibly popular in that community.

[keg in kc]

Uh, in dealing with OTHER WOMEN is where he needs to keep his nice guy principles.And this is where we differ, I guess. I think he needs to keep himself in line with the ex, too. But not for her sake. Treat her with respect for the sake of his own self esteem. Prove that he's better than she is and ultimately don't treat her any differently than anyone else to prove that she doesn't matter.

[keg in kc]

It's time for a kegger!

I'm on my way to the airport.Hey, I'm flattered, man. I really am. But I don't play on that team.

[Calcountry]

It's time for a kegger!

I'm on my way to the airport.heh, I remember telling my friend in Econ class that my girlfriend dumped me, and he goes,

"Dude, want to get high?", and he pulls some dubage out of his backback, right in class, not all the way out, just enough to let me know he was packing.

[Frazod]

Uh, in dealing with OTHER WOMEN is where he needs to keep his nice guy principles. This bitch forfeited HER right to those principles. Every women subsequent to her need not pay for her idiocy. That was my point and yes, I see you were joking but I don't think many of the guys who suggested that 'f*ck someone else quickly' option were joking.

Now is not the time for Brando to wax philosophic about the first woman he'll grudge-f#ck. He needs OUT of that situation now. Every other consideration is secondary.

[Phobia]

Now is not the time for Brando to wax philosophic about the first woman he'll grudge-f#ck. He needs OUT of that situation now. Every other consideration is secondary.

Get out or spend an evening (or more) in jail.

Sounds like he's doing the right thing. He's a lot smarter than I was under similar circumstances.

[memyselfI]

And this is where we differ, I guess. I think he needs to keep himself in line with the ex, too. But not for her sake. Treat her with respect for the sake of his own self esteem. Prove that he's better than she is and ultimately don't treat her any differently than anyone else to prove that she doesn't matter.

I agree and my point is he stays in line by keeping his head emotionally and by approaching this matter of factly like he would any other business/personal arrangement that has gone sour. That means no sentimental charity or mercy because she was a love interest. That means anticipating the worst from her because she's already shown it...at least twice. It's about self preservation now, not being a nice guy martyr.

[memyselfI]

Now is not the time for Brando to wax philosophic about the first woman he'll grudge-f#ck. He needs OUT of that situation now. Every other consideration is secondary.

No, now is the time. It's about karma, man. If he starts treating others like he's been treated in order to 'heal' the cycle will continue. It's guaranteed.

[mcan]

WOW. You know, after a year or so of that abuse I might have gone for the marshmellows instead of putting her out. No offense, her being your mom and all, but that's absurd.

None taken... She's crazy. I love her, but she's gone off the deep end, and regresses every time she takes a drink. It's sad.

[Iowanian]

Dense is just upset........Its obvious that she has been the rebound-Pin Cussion for Many, many men over the years.

Who you going to listen to Brando?...the Men who Know, or One of the heartless Gashes?

Bros before Hoes.

[Frazod]

Dense is just upset........Its obvious that she has been the rebound-Pin Cussion for Many, many men over the years.

Who you going to listen to Brando?...the Men who Know, or One of the heartless Gashes?

Bros before Hoes.

Good point.

This is a GUY thread. Don't worry about enemy opinions.

[memyselfI]

Good point.

This is a GUY thread. Don't worry about enemy opinions.

Ok, but when karma bites his azz....

[Cannibal]

It's time for a kegger!

I'm on my way to the airport.

That sounds like a fuking blast!

[Iowanian]

If Karma were a worry..........Dense would have been hitten by a bus, crossing the street to stalk Gann@n.

[Frazod]

Ok, but when karma bites his azz....

Apparently you haven't been paying attention. KARMA MADE A PREEMPTIVE STRIKE.

:shake:

[morphius]

Ok, but when karma bites his azz....
Unless you weren't paying attention, I think his fiance sleeping with another guy, might just fit a karmac bite in the azz...

[J Diddy]

Apparently you haven't been paying attention. KARMA MADE A PREEMPTIVE STRIKE.

:shake:

This is truly the ****ing funniest thing I have ever read.

[JazzzLovr]

Fine, but no one should be placing blame completely on the woman for the dysfunction...blame them BOTH.

:spock:

Right. Because it's not totally her fault that she cheated on him with a married man that she used to be with before him. They should share the blame. Maybe if Brando would have gotten married to someone else, crazy bitch would have wanted him instead. But did he put a little effort into becoming the kind of guy she wants? No. The NERVE of him.

:rolleyes:

You have got to be kidding me.

[Frazod]

:spock:

Right. Because it's not totally her fault that she cheated on him with a married man that she used to be with before him. They should share the blame. Maybe if Brando would have gotten married to someone else, crazy bitch would have wanted him instead. But did he put a little effort into becoming the kind of guy she wants? No. The NERVE of him.

:rolleyes:

You have got to be kidding me.

We should make Jazzz an honorary guy! :thumb:

:D

[JazzzLovr]

She's cheating on him with a married man. That argues pretty strongly for blaming her exclusively.

Yeah, I figured I'd be kinda late with my comment, but I was just too appalled at the lack of logic to refrain from posting it.

[JazzzLovr]

No, that he is still trying to deal with her in a rational fashion.

Oh, so it's rational behavior that you don't understand. OK. That makes sense to me now.

[memyselfI]

Apparently you haven't been paying attention. KARMA MADE A PREEMPTIVE STRIKE.

:shake:

Agreed. But does he want to tempt fate again? All I'm saying is toying with someone else as a means to avenge or 'heal' is no healing.

[memyselfI]

:spock:

Right. Because it's not totally her fault that she cheated on him with a married man that she used to be with before him. They should share the blame. Maybe if Brando would have gotten married to someone else, crazy bitch would have wanted him instead. But did he put a little effort into becoming the kind of guy she wants? No. The NERVE of him.

:rolleyes:

You have got to be kidding me.

uh, why don't you read the thread before spouting off?

All I'm telling him is too stop trusting her and treating her like she matters because she certainly did not extend the same courtesy to him. If he continues to do this, he has no one to blame but himself...

[Iowanian]

Dense....why don't you Hold your breath until I say "when"...

Ready
Go.

[stevieray]

Brando, just ask yourself what would gochiefs do?

Once you realize you aren't him, you'll instantly feel better.

Blow this girl off, get laid, and take some time to get your life moving forward.

[Iowanian]

I think you should be reminded.........that there is Nothing this ignorant Rutt has done that you won't forget about, at least for the last 20 seconds of a BJ. Go the the bar......Find the girl with the ass 1 size larger than her frame, who is in a mini........and spend 20 minutes talking to her at 2:15am

[memyselfI]

Not that I'm necessarily advocating Brando go out and get laid tonight, but I don't appreciate your implication that a one night stand necessarily makes the woman a victim and the man some sort of predator who's unleashing bad karma into the universe. There are, in fact, women who enjoy casual sex. (God bless 'em, every one.)

Agreed. And if he's honest about it and finds a willing party then great...

otherwise he's just doing unto others as has been done to him. Uncool.

[memyselfI]

I'd say it already has.

yes, it has.

But perhaps next time he won't be so LUCKY as to find out so early in the relationship...

or perhaps next time it will be out of the blue vs. part of a previous history.

[Hammock Parties]

My advice? Don't listen to anything I say because I am completely clueless.

[JazzzLovr]

Okay. I've read the whole thread now, and I'm not exactly in a hurry to delete any of my previous posts.

Brando said it best himself. He can't be expected to turn off his feelings for her like a switch. She certainly hasn't earned those feelings with her recent behavior, obviously. But it's not like he can instantly will himself to stop loving her. In fact, if he could, then it must not have been real to him either.

She deserves to come home to changed locks and her belongings on the front lawn (by the curb if it's trash day). She has given up the right to be treated with kindness and understanding. But by continuing to try to be civil and to be as fair as possible, Brando is taking the high road and not sinking to her level. He is not in the wrong here. He's trying to make the best of a very bad situation. I think eventually he will look back and feel better about himself knowing that he did the right thing, even when she didn't deserve it.



Best of luck, Brando. We're not all psychos. ;)

[J Diddy]

Not that I'm necessarily advocating Brando go out and get laid tonight, but I don't appreciate your implication that a one night stand necessarily makes the woman a victim and the man some sort of predator who's unleashing bad karma into the universe. There are, in fact, women who enjoy casual sex. (God bless 'em, every one.)


ROFL

[Frazod]

Liar. LIAR!!

This is the most devious kind... she suckers us in by agreeing with us... and then someday... when we least expect it... BLAMMO! (I'm not sure what blammo is... but, it's bad.)
If she didn't BLAMMO you during her weekend of babysitting your drunk ass, I suspect she probably doesn't have it in her. :D

[JazzzLovr]

If she didn't BLAMMO you during her weekend of babysitting your drunk ass, I suspect she probably doesn't have it in her. :D

ROFL

[keg in kc]

Liar. LIAR!!

This is the most devious kind... she suckers us in by agreeing with us... and then someday... when we least expect it... BLAMMO! (I'm not sure what blammo is... but, it's bad.)I think blammo is when she does something that makes it clear that they are all, in fact, psycho. Women lie. Genetics doesn't.

[ChiTown]

My advice? Don't listen to anything I say because I am completely clueless.

Finally, someone makes some sense..................

[Brando]

Finally, someone makes some sense..................
Man..there must be something wrong with the world. GoChiefs is making sense all of a sudden.

[Hammock Parties]

Man..there must be something wrong with the word. GoChiefs is making sense all of a sudden.

2+2=4

[Brando]

2+2=4
o.k. stop that right now..you're starting to scare me!

[J Diddy]

o.k. stop that right now..you're starting to scare me!


It's almost like the twilight zone, eh?

[Brando]

It's almost like the twilight zone, eh?
Fug the Planet tonight. I'm going back to Batteredbuttholes.com and watching some DP action on lil hotties.

[J Diddy]

Fug the Planet tonight. I'm going back to Batteredbuttholes.com and watching some DP action on lil hotties.


As a designated rep from the planet. Fug you too.

Have fun....

:)

[mcan]

Fug the Planet tonight. I'm going back to Batteredbuttholes.com and watching some DP action on lil hotties.
:Lin:

Seriously, I don't see why anyone would think that's hot. Oh wait, sorry... Wrong thread...

[tk13]

Best of luck, Brando. We're not all psychos. ;)

Psssshht. Taco's "I'm happy with our offseason" line has a new competitor for the "Most Outrageous Statement of the Year" award. :)

[J Diddy]

Psssshht. Taco's "I'm happy with our offseason" line has a new competitor for the "Most Outrageous Statement of the Year" award. :)

ROFL

[Phobia]

Best of luck, Brando. We're not all psychos. ;)

Yeah, some of them speak so infrequently, it will take you 30-40 years to learn the truth....

Sorry, Jazzz - it's all I got on on short notice.

[Brando]

Best of luck, Brando. We're not all psychos.
Really? You have any nude pics you want to share with me then? Just kidding. I know that I'll find a good one. Thanks!

[Dave Lane]

Are we sure he didn't mean "available" instead of "free"? That's part of Dave's livelihood. I'm pretty sure he's not giving them away.

Free as in free for a few months till he gets his feet under him and this way he has somewhere to go right away.

Dave

[Phobia]

Free as in free for a few months till he gets his feet under him and this way he has somewhere to go right away.

Dave

That's awesome.

[Brando]

That's awesome.

It's really cool the way that everyone has come out to offer support and advice.
This just totally blows me away.

[Rain Man]

Free as in free for a few months till he gets his feet under him and this way he has somewhere to go right away.

Dave

Class move there, Dave.

Um, can you give me twenty bucks till payday?

[Dave Lane]

Class move there, Dave.

Um, can you give me twenty bucks till payday?

No problem, have I explained the concept of compound interest yet? ROFL

Dave