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Fire Me Boy!
05-30-2005, 02:29 PM
OK... what's the best movie franchise out there?

Poll coming shortly... for the sake of brevity, a franchise should be four films or MORE. There are just way too many trilogies to include them... that's another thread. But, before you vote, consider ALL the films in the franchise. One or two good films in a franchise of 6-7 a good franchise does not make.

Fire Me Boy!
05-30-2005, 02:31 PM
And I'm sorry if I missed any...

Rausch
05-30-2005, 02:40 PM
I went with Star Wars, mainly for the original 3 flicks.

Saw the most recent and even though some $3it pissed me off it was by far the best of the prequels...

DenverChief
05-30-2005, 02:45 PM
Top 5:
Star Wars - EPisodes 2-6 were great...one was soooooo boring

Nightmare on Elm Street - Started out as the best of all the bad guys ( Jason and Mike Myers) but after 4 was really starting to become lame

Friday the 13th - Second best to Freddy and had a really good theme until Jason went to Manhattan :rolleyes:


Alien - Loved 1,2, and 4...3 was okay

Lethal Weapon - Great Comedy series I think all of them have their qualities but 4 was pushing the envelope

Rausch
05-30-2005, 02:46 PM
Wait, WTF is Beverly Hills Cop?

Fire Me Boy!
05-30-2005, 02:48 PM
I'm still thinking... I'm leaning towards Lethal Weapon. Mainly because while I'm not big on 3 or 4, they're still very enjoyable, which would make the WHOLE franchise pretty good. Star Wars and Bond are up there too...

I'll even admit that I enjoyed all three of the prequels... yeah, they had their problems, but ignore Jar Jar and 85% of the problem with TPM goes away.

Fire Me Boy!
05-30-2005, 02:49 PM
Wait, WTF is Beverly Hills Cop?
Ummmm.... there were only three.
for the sake of brevity, a franchise should be four films or MORE.

KCWolfman
05-30-2005, 03:01 PM
James Bond is easily the most long lived of those mentioned. Probably the biggest grosser if you include inflation.

However, Sherlock Holmes is the character most repeated in all movies, radio programs, and on stage of all time - and has grossed more than any other (including rate of inflation.)

Sherlock Holmes also had the most variety of actors playing him - giving him poor and fantastic representation and everything inbetween.

I have to go with Holmes, Mr. Watson.

KCWolfman
05-30-2005, 03:02 PM
You also realize that Hannibal Lecter only has three films, unless you are including remakes?

beer bacon
05-30-2005, 03:04 PM
I was saddened when the Man With No Name trilogy did not appear on this list. I voted for Star Wars.

On second thought, does only three movies != movie franchise?

eazyb81
05-30-2005, 03:11 PM
There are people that actually like Star Trek over Star Wars??? :eek:

whoman69
05-30-2005, 03:32 PM
There are people that actually like Star Trek over Star Wars??? :eek:
Star Trek has had 10 feature films and five TV series based upon the original concept.

eazyb81
05-30-2005, 03:34 PM
Star Trek has had 10 feature films and five TV series based upon the original concept.

I know, but it is a pretty bland franchise in my opinion. I've never been intrigued by any Star Trek movie or tv show, so it's hard for me to understand why someone would like it over Star Wars.

Deberg_1990
05-30-2005, 03:41 PM
Polica Academy saga: Hands down. The tales of cadets Mahoney, Hightower and Tackleberry never cease to amaze. Guttenberg should have won an Oscar!

Bob Dole
05-30-2005, 03:47 PM
You also realize that Hannibal Lecter only has three films, unless you are including remakes?

Bob Dole can't even make himself sit through that Miami Vice-ish Mann POS

Bob Dole
05-30-2005, 03:48 PM
I know, but it is a pretty bland franchise in my opinion. I've never been intrigued by any Star Trek movie or tv show, so it's hard for me to understand why someone would like it over Star Wars.

You can't understand it because you've actually touched a naked female.

milkman
05-30-2005, 03:51 PM
I know, but it is a pretty bland franchise in my opinion. I've never been intrigued by any Star Trek movie or tv show, so it's hard for me to understand why someone would like it over Star Wars.

For me, there isn't a single character in the Star Wars franchise that I like.

And the Wookies, give me a freakin' break.
And even Star Wars fans dislike Jar Jar Binks.

Rain Man
05-30-2005, 03:52 PM
KCwolfman has a good point with James Bond. However, it may be a premise whose time has passed. They're kind of passe now.

I would disagree that Sherlock Holmes is really a franchise since his movies aren't coming through one creative company.

Rain Man
05-30-2005, 03:54 PM
For me, there isn't a single character in the Star Wars franchise that I like.


Not even Leia chained up in the bikini?

Rausch
05-30-2005, 03:58 PM
For me, there isn't a single character in the Star Wars franchise that I like.

And the Wookies, give me a freakin' break.
And even Star Wars fans dislike Jar Jar Binks.

HTF can you not like Han Solo!?!

:shake:

milkman
05-30-2005, 04:00 PM
Not even Leia chained up in the bikini?

I didn't say I didn't like looking at some of the characters.

milkman
05-30-2005, 04:02 PM
HTF can you not like Han Solo!?!

:shake:

I think I was predisposed to dislike the Hans Solo character, because some critics were comparing Harrison Ford to John Wayne, and simply couldn't see it.

Rausch
05-30-2005, 04:03 PM
I think I was predisposed to dislike the Hans Solo character, because some critics were comparing Harrison Ford to John Wayne, and simply couldn't see it.

Understandable, I can't ****ing stand John Wayne...

milkman
05-30-2005, 04:10 PM
Understandable, I can't ****ing stand John Wayne...

Well pilgrim, that's your choice.

Hammock Parties
05-30-2005, 04:10 PM
I think I was predisposed to dislike the Hans Solo character, because some critics were comparing Harrison Ford to John Wayne, and simply couldn't see it.

HAN
SOLO

not

HANS

THANKYOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

Hammock Parties
05-30-2005, 04:11 PM
Understandable, I can't ****ing stand John Wayne...

WTF? John Wayne is the coolest actor EVAR! What's the deal? You can't stand people that walk around like they're constipated all the time?

milkman
05-30-2005, 04:13 PM
HAN
SOLO

not

HANS

THANKYOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

Han, Hans, who gives a rat's ass? :rolleyes: :p

Rausch
05-30-2005, 04:13 PM
Well pilgrim, that's your choice.

I doubt any other person in Hollywood has done more to destroy historical accuracy in film...

Besides, Terence Hill is the best Western actor EVAR!1! :)

Hammock Parties
05-30-2005, 04:14 PM
Han, Hans, who gives a rat's ass? :rolleyes: :p

You should. Saying "Hans" makes you look like a cretin.

milkman
05-30-2005, 04:15 PM
I doubt any other person in Hollywood has done more to destroy historical accuracy in film...

Besides, Terence Hill is the best Western actor EVAR!1! :)

I grew up on John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, Henry Fonda movies.

WTF is Terence Hill?

milkman
05-30-2005, 04:16 PM
You should. Saying "Hans" makes you look like a cretin.

I am a cretin!

Rausch
05-30-2005, 04:17 PM
WTF is Terence Hill?

Blasphemer!1!

http://www.terencehill.com/

Thig Lyfe
05-30-2005, 04:17 PM
Monty Python... the most consistent of all those choices.

Baby Lee
05-30-2005, 04:25 PM
Besides, Terence Hill is the best Western actor EVAR!1! :)

Ahem!!!

<---- look to the avatar

:harumph:

Rausch
05-30-2005, 04:28 PM
Ahem!!!

<---- look to the avatar

:harumph:

I take it you've never seen a Hill movie. It's comedy, not serious stuff...

And other than Kilmer's Doc Holliday I have to agree with you...

Frazod
05-30-2005, 04:43 PM
I'd have to go with the Monty Python films. Everything else has weak links.

Fire Me Boy!
05-30-2005, 04:50 PM
You also realize that Hannibal Lecter only has three films, unless you are including remakes?
I thought about that and actually did decide to separate Manhunter from Red Dragon... sorry.

Miles
05-30-2005, 05:51 PM
Man you left off the Leprechaun movies. Leprechaun: Back 2 tha Hood is a classic ;)

Jenson71
05-30-2005, 05:55 PM
Where's The Thin Man's? :)

KCWolfman
05-30-2005, 05:56 PM
Where's The Thin Man's? :)
Ooh, good. I didn't know how obscure we could get.

The Abbott and Costello franchise should be considered as well.

Logical
05-30-2005, 05:57 PM
I made the mistake of assuming you meant money making franchise (that is just what I think of first). Which made it clearly the James Bond series for total money (though Star Wars could contend I suppose). Clearly Star Wars wins on average per film.

As to consistent entertainment I would still rate the Bond flicks higher, Star Wars I was just so horribly bad.

Bowser
05-30-2005, 06:00 PM
Vote for Monty Python, or I will be forced to fart in your general direction.

Logical
05-30-2005, 06:01 PM
Star Trek has had 10 feature films and five TV series based upon the original concept.

10 feature films, really? I am pretty sure I have seen them all but would have never have guessed there were 10.

milkman
05-30-2005, 06:04 PM
Ooh, good. I didn't know how obscure we could get.

The Abbott and Costello franchise should be considered as well.

Since you bring up Abbott and Costello, I just have to ask, especially because of the history here, What about The Three Stooges? :)

Frazod
05-30-2005, 06:05 PM
10 feature films, really? I am pretty sure I have seen them all but would have never have guessed there were 10.

Star Trek The Motion Picture
Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek III The Search for Spock
Star Trek IV The Voyage Home
Star Trek V The Final Frontier
Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country
Star Trek Generations
Star Trek First Contact
Star Trek Insurrection
Star Trek Nemesis

I, V and Insurrection sucked ass.

III, IV, Generations and Nemesis were okay.

II, VI and First Contact were excellent.

Bowser
05-30-2005, 06:06 PM
Star Trek The Motion Picture
Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek III The Search for Spock
Star Trek IV The Voyage Home
Star Trek V The Final Frontier
Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country
Star Trek Generations
Star Trek First Contact
Star Trek Insurrection
Star Trek Nemesis

I, V and Insurrection sucked ass.

III, IV, Generations and Nemesis were okay.

II, VI and First Contact were excellent.

Didn't even have to google it, didya?

KCWolfman
05-30-2005, 06:07 PM
10 feature films, really? I am pretty sure I have seen them all but would have never have guessed there were 10.]


#1. Rogue exploration vessel decides to destroy universe
#2. Khan comes back for vengeance
#3. Let's find the dead Spock and bring him back to life
#4. Begin the peace between human and Klingon
#5. Spock's brother drives the Enterprise without permission
#6. Save the whales
#7. Picard helps Kirk die
#8. Stop the Borg by going back in time and helping souped up rocket
#9. Paradise Lost. Fight the Federation or kill the aliens
#10. Begin the Romulan peace process.

KCWolfman
05-30-2005, 06:07 PM
Since you bring up Abbott and Costello, I just have to ask, especially because of the history here, What about The Three Stooges? :)
Only shorts, no extended movies.

Frazod
05-30-2005, 06:08 PM
Didn't even have to google it, didya?

I did have to check the name of the ninth one - I've tried really hard to forget everything about that piece of crap. It wouldn't even have made a decent episode. :shake:

Bowser
05-30-2005, 06:08 PM
]


#1. Rogue exploration vessel decides to destroy universe
#2. Khan comes back for vengeance
#3. Let's find the dead Spock and bring him back to life
#4. Begin the peace between human and Klingon
#5. Spock's brother drives the Enterprise without permission
#6. Save the whales
#7. Picard helps Kirk die
#8. Stop the Borg by going back in time and helping souped up rocket
#9. Paradise Lost. Fight the Federation or kill the aliens
#10. Begin the Romulan peace process.

Didn't even have to google it, didya?

Frazod
05-30-2005, 06:09 PM
]


#1. Rogue exploration vessel decides to destroy universe
#2. Khan comes back for vengeance
#3. Let's find the dead Spock and bring him back to life
#4. Begin the peace between human and Klingon
#5. Spock's brother drives the Enterprise without permission
#6. Save the whales
#7. Picard helps Kirk die
#8. Stop the Borg by going back in time and helping souped up rocket
#9. Paradise Lost. Fight the Federation or kill the aliens
#10. Begin the Romulan peace process.

#4 was Save the Whales

#6 was Kill the Cloaked Klingon before he spouts more Shakespeare.

Bowser
05-30-2005, 06:09 PM
I did have to check the name of the ninth one - I've tried really hard to forget everything about that piece of crap. It wouldn't even have made a decent episode. :shake:

That one WAS garbage. The "Briar Patch", where noone grows old. Blah.

Hammock Parties
05-30-2005, 06:10 PM
]


#1. Rogue exploration vessel decides to destroy universe
#2. Khan comes back for vengeance
#3. Let's find the dead Spock and bring him back to life
#4. Begin the peace between human and Klingon
#5. Spock's brother drives the Enterprise without permission
#6. Save the whales
#7. Picard helps Kirk die
#8. Stop the Borg by going back in time and helping souped up rocket
#9. Paradise Lost. Fight the Federation or kill the aliens
#10. Begin the Romulan peace process.

#10. Rehash of Star Trek II with Romulans and Remans. ROFL

Frazod
05-30-2005, 06:10 PM
That one WAS garbage. The "Briar Patch", where noone grows old. Blah.

Yep. Worst of the bunch, and considering how bad V (the Search for God) was, that's saying something.

Hammock Parties
05-30-2005, 06:11 PM
That one WAS garbage. The "Briar Patch", where noone grows old. Blah.

It had some cool stuff. The Enterprise ramming the Scimitar, for instance. And Riker being his badass self. :)

Plus, Data hijinks!

KCWolfman
05-30-2005, 06:12 PM
Didn't even have to google it, didya?
Obviously not, as I made some errors.

Frazod
05-30-2005, 06:12 PM
#10. Rehash of Star Trek II with Romulans and Remans. ROFL

With Data conveniently uploading his brain into another Data unit before doing the Spock-sacrifice, just in case anybody wants to make XI. :spock:

Hammock Parties
05-30-2005, 06:12 PM
Obviously not, as I made some errors.

Yeah I noticed you got 6 and 4 crossed up.

Bowser
05-30-2005, 06:13 PM
It had some cool stuff. The Enterprise ramming the Scimitar, for instance. And Riker being his badass self. :)

Plus, Data hijinks!

Oh, now see there, you got your Star Trek movies mixed up. You're describing the tenth movie, when I was referring to the ninth. I bet you would never faux pas like that with Lucasworld........

Hammock Parties
05-30-2005, 06:13 PM
Yep. Worst of the bunch, and considering how bad V (the Search for God) was, that's saying something.

Star Trek V is great entertainment. The key is to watch it as if you were watching a comedy.

Bowser
05-30-2005, 06:14 PM
Obviously not, as I made some errors.

It was a valiant effort. Much better than what I could have managed.......

Hammock Parties
05-30-2005, 06:14 PM
Oh, now see there, you got your Star Trek movies mixed up. You're describing the tenth movie, when I was referring to the ninth. I bet you would never faux pas like that with Lucasworld........

Oops. The Enterprise doesn't ram until X, that's right. But the other bits I was talking about are in IX.

KCWolfman
05-30-2005, 06:14 PM
With Data conveniently uploading his brain into another Data unit before doing the Spock-sacrifice, just in case anybody wants to make XI. :spock:
Plus the redux of the peace process with another long standing enemy.

Frazod
05-30-2005, 06:15 PM
Star Trek V is great entertainment. The key is to watch it as if you were watching a comedy.

Sorry, it just sucked. Shatner directed that one. Probably shouldn't have called Lucas for directing advice.

:evil:

Hammock Parties
05-30-2005, 06:16 PM
Sorry, it just sucked. Shatner directed that one. Probably shouldn't have called Lucas for directing advice.

:evil:

Hi Bones! Mind if we drop in? ROFL

I am attempting to toast...a marsh melon. ROFL

Frazod
05-30-2005, 06:17 PM
Plus the redux of the peace process with another long standing enemy.

Yep.

Despite its many faults, I did kind of like it. I have it in my collection (along with all the rest of them except for I, V and IX).

Logical
05-30-2005, 06:23 PM
#4 was Save the Whales

#6 was Kill the Cloaked Klingon before he spouts more Shakespeare.ROFL

Hammock Parties
05-30-2005, 06:24 PM
Hey! My English teacher LOVED Star Trek VI!

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
05-30-2005, 07:00 PM
Suprised there is no mention of Lord of the Rings. Although generally not my type of movies I must admit that the 3 movies make for a great story and I think should be mentioned at least right along the classics; like Nightmare on Elm Street, and Friday the 13th! :shake:

Personally I think the best franchise, or movies and sequels based on story, quality of acting and overall entertainment is The Godfather, I know most people do not like part 3 but I think it is far underrated and ties up the saga well. By far it is not as good as the first two, but hard to follow in those footsteps!

Dayze
05-30-2005, 07:01 PM
easy

see avatar.

Frazod
05-30-2005, 07:04 PM
Suprised there is no mention of Lord of the Rings. Although generally not my type of movies I must admit that the 3 movies make for a great story and I think should be mentioned at least right along the classics; like Nightmare on Elm Street, and Friday the 13th! :shake:

Personally I think the best franchise, or movies and sequels based on story, quality of acting and overall entertainment is The Godfather, I know most people do not like part 3 but I think it is far underrated and ties up the saga well. By far it is not as good as the first two, but hard to follow in those footsteps!

He specified four or more in the topic.

Saulbadguy
05-30-2005, 07:06 PM
Star Wars.

I love the Monty Python movies as well, but for some reason they put me to sleep when I watch them.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
05-30-2005, 08:04 PM
He specified four or more in the topic.



Ahh........ sorry, after reading all the posts I forgot the the requirements, please accept my sincerest and profound apologies!

I beg for forgiveness!

Tribal Warfare
05-31-2005, 12:44 AM
what about LOTR ,Indiana Jones, and Batman

luv
05-31-2005, 12:52 AM
Considering I hate horror flicks, and I'm getting sick of hearing about Star Wars, I voted for the Lethal Weapon movies. Action packed and funny for the most part. How could you not like Joe Pesci's character? ROFL

Pants
05-31-2005, 01:47 AM
I have to go with Holmes, Mr. Watson.

Wasn't he Dr. Watson?

Rausch
05-31-2005, 01:59 AM
He specified four or more in the topic.

3 animated, 3 normal flicks.

And I'm not even a LOTR fanboy... :shake:

Jenson71
05-31-2005, 04:58 AM
3 animated, 3 normal flicks.

And I'm not even a LOTR fanboy... :shake:

But there's no animated The Godfather.

Yet.

*shudder*

Mile High Mania
05-31-2005, 06:08 AM
This poll is flawed without Indiana Jones...

SCTrojan
05-31-2005, 06:52 AM
Went with Bond on this one because of longevity. And other than the one with George Lazenby (?) it's hard to pick one that is horrible like Phantom Menace for Star Wars.

For obscurity fans, I'd like to make the Jay and Silent Bob movies an honorable mention.

Fire Me Boy!
05-31-2005, 07:25 AM
what about LOTR ,Indiana Jones, and Batman
OK... Batman is on the list... LOTR, I didn't know it had animated... Indiana Jones, well.... since there's only three movies, I couldn't really include it since my original post SAID four or more. :shake:

How many times do we have to go through this?

Fire Me Boy!
05-31-2005, 07:27 AM
This poll is flawed without Indiana Jones...
Again... this poll does NOT include trilogies because there are simply too many. A franchise is four or more for the sake of this poll. Dammit! :banghead:

KcMizzou
05-31-2005, 07:55 AM
How many times do we have to go through this? What about Indiana Jones?

Fire Me Boy!
05-31-2005, 08:02 AM
What about Indiana Jones?
bastard

KcMizzou
05-31-2005, 08:08 AM
bastardROFL

ct
05-31-2005, 09:38 AM
I went with Bond, James Bond. Very close second was Monty Python. Honorable mention for Star Wars and Star Trek.

What the F*** is Jack Ryan? Any chance that was around the late '80s, which is still kinda fuzzy for me?

Also, really think the Eastwood spaghetti westerns should be on here, but maybe there were only 3?

Fire Me Boy!
05-31-2005, 09:44 AM
I went with Bond, James Bond. Very close second was Monty Python. Honorable mention for Star Wars and Star Trek.

What the F*** is Jack Ryan? Any chance that was around the late '80s, which is still kinda fuzzy for me?

Also, really think the Eastwood spaghetti westerns should be on here, but maybe there were only 3?
Jack Ryan is Patriot Games, Hunt for Red October, Clear and Present Danger, and Sum of All Fears.

The Eastwood spaghetti westerns were the Man with No Name Trilogy -- The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, A Fistfull of Dollars, and For A Few Dollars More... Trilogy... not included.

Goapics1
05-31-2005, 09:50 AM
Hellraiser. That dude with those pins in his face/head scared the begeezus out of me!

ct
05-31-2005, 09:50 AM
Jack Ryan is Patriot Games, Hunt for Red October, Clear and Present Danger, and Sum of All Fears.

The Eastwood spaghetti westerns were the Man with No Name Trilogy -- The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, A Fistfull of Dollars, and For A Few Dollars More... Trilogy... not included.

Thanks for the Jack Ryan clarification, I have not seen 2 of those.

In the Spaghetti Westerns I generally include Hang Em High, 3 Mules for Sister Sarah and High Plains Drifter, but I see technically, you are right. Maybe the Eastwood westerns would have been the better 'franchise' designation under your poll. Anyway, that would have been my vote over the 007 series.

Good poll, by the way, interesting trying to compare all these. I imagine a trilogy poll would have been a biatch!! There's a ton of them!

Jenson71
05-31-2005, 09:55 AM
There were Leone's 3 westerns with Eastwood. Then Eastwood made High Plains Drifter. And he was the man with no name in that. But was that man with no name the same man with no name as the other three men with no name? Hmm...

Fire Me Boy!
05-31-2005, 10:00 AM
Thanks for the Jack Ryan clarification, I have not seen 2 of those.

In the Spaghetti Westerns I generally include Hang Em High, 3 Mules for Sister Sarah and High Plains Drifter, but I see technically, you are right. Maybe the Eastwood westerns would have been the better 'franchise' designation under your poll. Anyway, that would have been my vote over the 007 series.

Good poll, by the way, interesting trying to compare all these. I imagine a trilogy poll would have been a biatch!! There's a ton of them!
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Spaghetti Westerns is a nickname for a broad sub-genre of Western film that emerged in the mid-1960s, so named because most of them were produced by Italian studios. Originally they had in common the Italian language, low budgets, and a recognizable highly fluid, violent, minimalist cinematography that eschewed (some said "demythologized") many of the conventions of earlier Westerns - partly intentionally, partly as a result of the work being done in a different cultural background and with limited funds. The term was originally used disparagingly, but by the 1980s many of these films came to be held in high regard.


Hang 'em High was filmed in New Mexico, Two (NOT 3) Mules for Sister Sarah was filmed in Mexico, and High Plains Drifter was shot in California. Franchise really refers to a single character in common, so the No Name trilogy would be a franchise, but not in this poll because of the trilogy part.

Fire Me Boy!
05-31-2005, 10:02 AM
There were Leone's 3 westerns with Eastwood. Then Eastwood made High Plains Drifter. And he was the man with no name in that. But was that man with no name the same man with no name as the other three men with no name? Hmm...
In High Plains Drifter, Eastwood is credited as "The Stranger." It's the same theme, but different character.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0068699/

Jenson71
05-31-2005, 10:18 AM
In High Plains Drifter, Eastwood is credited as "The Stranger." It's the same theme, but different character.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0068699/

Are you sure? imdb has a different name credited for each of the three Leone movies.

The only way you could tell is the clothing. He wears the poncho thing throughout the first two and then we see in the prequel, TGTBTU, him finding the poncho thing.

He doesn't wear the poncho thing in High Plains Drifter, but maybe it's just cause he lost it to some bandits. :)

So just a variation. DOESN'T COUNT YOU BASTARDS

Fire Me Boy!
05-31-2005, 10:24 AM
Are you sure? imdb has a different name credited for each of the three Leone movies.

The only way you could tell is the clothing. He wears the poncho thing throughout the first two and then we see in the prequel, TGTBTU, him finding the poncho thing.

He doesn't wear the poncho thing in High Plains Drifter, but maybe it's just cause he lost it to some bandits. :)

So just a variation. DOESN'T COUNT YOU BASTARDS
Hmmm... :shrug:

Well... in the very least... I created the poll... and it DOESN'T COUNT! If you don't like it... nlm