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Mr. Laz
06-26-2005, 02:54 PM
TV/RADIO: Taylor opens up on WZNZ show

By JEFF ELLIOTT, The Times-Union


Admitting publicly for the first time what many had already assumed to be the case, Fred Taylor revealed on Thursday that the knee injury he suffered in the Green Bay game last December was more serious than what was stated and that the Jaguars kept it under wraps.

Speaking to co-host Pete Prisco on The Frank Frangie Show (WZNZ, 1460 AM), Taylor offered candid comments about that injury and a groin injury that caused him to miss the final 14 games the 2001 season.

"It was a lot worse than initially thought," Taylor said about last year's knee injury. "How that came about, I don't know. It definitely was. They kept that under wraps.

"I had an MCL [medial collateral ligament] and PCL [posterior cruciate ligament] combo [tear]. The thing that I heard was that it was just under the severity of an ACL [anterior cruciate ligament] -- not as bad, but just below it because of the combination of the two. And that's what people failed to understand. Every time people saw me, they were thinking, 'Why are you still on crutches? Why aren't you walking correctly now?'

"But that was only three weeks out of my surgery and I had a full cut surgery instead of a scope. Everybody thought I had [arthroscopic surgery], but it was worse than that."

Prisco asked Taylor if he felt that because of last year's injury and the 2001 groin injury, that "... you've kind of been hung out to dry on the injuries. Why is that?"

Taylor cast part of the blame on the media.

"First of all, I guess it's the market we're in," he said. "So I guess once the media gets their hands on it, and chop it up on how they want to, and serve it how they want to, I'm kind of left out to dry. Other than that, it just happens.

"I'm not the type of guy that's going to rebel, rebel against the organization or go express all of my feelings to the media and start something that maybe we can handle right here in house. But you know, it only can happen so many times until a person gets enough.

"This is actually the second time that it's happened in my career, where I'm getting called out for being a softy, this and that. 'It's an injury where he should return in this amount of time.' And then, here I am, not looking like I'm working hard."

Taylor said he was encouraged by his rehabilitation and that he expected to be ready to play in time for the season opener Sept. 11 against Seattle. He also said he didn't see the necessity to play in any of the Jaguars' four preseason games.

"Even from the first couple years, I felt we had too many preseason games to play in," he said. "I don't even think I really need to play in one, even though I wouldn't mind. My goal is to be ready for the Seahawks on the 11th."

Herzig
06-26-2005, 03:27 PM
I read somewhere the Jags were talking to the Bills about a trade for Henry...

NJ Chief Fan
06-26-2005, 03:33 PM
I read somewhere the Jags were talking to the Bills about a trade for Henry...
heard it was shaun alexander they were lookin at...now theyve answered my question that i asked on why they were lookin for a replacement

Herzig
06-26-2005, 03:34 PM
heard it was shaun alexander they were lookin at...now theyve answered my question that i asked on why they were lookin for a replacement

I read that they were talking to seattle too, but they seemed to have more interest in Henry.

Herzig
06-26-2005, 03:36 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2093822

Jacksonville Jaguars star running back Fred Taylor remains confident he will be recovered at some point in training camp next month, but revealed that the left knee injury he suffered late last season was more severe than either he or teams officials acknowledged.

Taylor continues his rehabilitation from surgery, which he underwent five months ago.

Fred Taylor
Taylor

"It was a lot worse than initially thought," Taylor, the centerpiece of the Jags' offense, said during a radio interview Thursday with WZNZ. "How that came about, I don't know, but it definitely was [worse]. They kept that under wraps. I had an MCL (medial collateral ligament) and PCL (posterior cruciate ligament) tear. The thing that I heard was that it was the severity of an ACL -- not as bad, but just below it, because of the combination of the two.

"And that's what people fail to understand. Every time they saw me, they were thinking, 'Why are you still on crutches? Why aren't you walking correctly now?' But that was only three weeks out of my surgery, and I had a full-cut surgery, instead of a 'scope.' Everybody thought I had [arthroscopic surgery], but it was worse than that."

Several media outlets, including ESPN.com, reported that Taylor's surgery, performed by orthopedist Dr. John Uribe of Miami in late January, was an arthroscopic procedure. The Jaguars did not rectify those reports.

The injury, sustained in a victory last Dec. 19 at Green Bay, sidelined Taylor for the final two games of the season. The seven-year veteran has been unable to participate in any of the Jaguars' on-field activities in the offseason.

There have been suggestions Taylor might miss the entire season, but coach Jack Del Rio has debunked that notion on several occasions. Taylor reiterated this week that he will be ready for the start of the season but might play only sparingly in preseason games.

Jacksonville has been linked to several trade rumors involving running backs, most notably Seattle's Shaun Alexander and Buffalo's Travis Henry, but team officials have denied there have been substantive talks with those teams. Vice president of personnel James Harris conceded there have been "conversations" about Henry, who has been on the trade block the entire offseason, but downplayed those internal discussions.

Coaches have lauded the offseason work of two young backs, third-year pro LaBrandon Toefield and 2005 fourth-round draft choice Alvin Pearman, and expressed confidence the two could successfully fill in if Taylor's recovery is prolonged.

But the more likely scenario is that the Jaguars will closely monitor Taylor during the next few weeks, when his workouts will be accelerated and he will be asked to make the kind of hard cuts he had avoided to this point, and then make a determination on his progress. If the Jags believe Taylor is behind in his recovery, the team might make a move to acquire a veteran back before or during camp.

Taylor, 29, literally missed 1½ seasons -- 24 games in all -- during the first four years of his career. He was a model of consistency and good health in 2002 and began a stretch of 46 consecutive starts, a streak snapped by the injury at Green Bay in '04.

The former University of Florida player and Jacksonville's first-round choice in 1998, Taylor has chafed at suggestions that he's a slow healer. Part of that perception, though, was a function of the Jaguars at times not divulging the severity of his injuries. In 2001, for instance, the club downplayed the seriousness of a groin injury that eventually kept him out for all but two games that year.

"This is actually the second time that it's happened in my career, where I'm getting called out for being a softy, this and that," Taylor said during his appearance on WZNZ. "It's like, 'It's an injury where he should return in this amount of time.' And then, here I am, looking like I'm not working hard."

In seven seasons, Taylor has carried 1,637 times for 7,580 yards and 48 touchdowns (he's rushed for 1,000 or more yards five times). One of the NFL's best receivers out of the backfield, Taylor has 225 career catches for 1,880 yards and seven scores.

Ultra Peanut
06-26-2005, 03:56 PM
OMG TRADE LJ!

Mr. Laz
06-26-2005, 04:10 PM
OMG TRADE LJ!

would you trade him for John Henderson?

Taco John
06-26-2005, 04:31 PM
Fred Taylor? Injured?

Getouttahere...

Hydrae
06-26-2005, 04:32 PM
would you trade him for John Henderson?


That might be worth discussing at least. Not sure I am ready to expect Smith to be our backup though. And please don't give me Holcomb as Priests backup.

Ultra Peanut
06-26-2005, 04:38 PM
Fred Taylor? Injured?

Getouttahere...ROFL

htismaqe
06-26-2005, 04:43 PM
would you trade him for John Henderson?

No.

But I'd trade him for Marcus Stroud.

Sure-Oz
06-26-2005, 05:44 PM
Fred Taylor? Injured?

Getouttahere...
beat me to it

Red Dawg
06-26-2005, 11:26 PM
That guy is always hurt. He's great but never healthy.

Reaper16
06-26-2005, 11:43 PM
That might be worth discussing at least. Not sure I am ready to expect Smith to be our backup though. And please don't give me Holcomb as Priests backup.

GADO! AM I RITE?!?!?!11

Mile High Mania
06-27-2005, 05:39 AM
I think if they traded a 3rd rounder, they'll go for Henry... he's going to cost them less and he's really the most likely to leave their current team.

It's crazy that either Alexander or Henry can be had for a 3rd rounder... unreal.