Any possibilities one or more of our linebackers will be traded?

[B_Ambuehl]

What do you guys think they'll end up doing with Barber, Fujita (or Fox), Maz, Mitchell, Stills?

You guys think there's any chance any of those players will be traded? The Chiefs have a lot of talented outside linebackers. I figure Fox will be kept around but Barber and Fujita are too talented too simply let go and some of those guys aren't gonna be happy playing 2nd fiddle.

I see Maz and Stills getting cut in preseason

I through Mitchell onto the list cause I don't think there's a chance in hell of him starting after the 2005 season as long as Boomer and Scanlon are on the roster. He could have a semi-productive year and might be worth something since he's a 2nd round pick.

What do you guys think?

[jspchief]

Maz: cut
Stills: cut
Barber: injury settlement

Fujita might be good trade bait. We only have him for this year, so I guess better to get something for him rather than nothing. The only question is whether he's worth anything to another team.

[chop]

Come on. Do you really think the Chiefs would get anything for any of those guys? Those are the guys that were on the NFL's bottom dwelling D.

[htismaqe]

Maz can't be traded, he hasn't passed a physcial yet.

Barber can't be traded, he's injured.

Fujita can't be traded yet, either. He's still injured.

[Eleazar]

I think Stills has cemented a spot as a special teams player, don't you guys?

I don't see Maz on the roster opening day. I don't see any reason why Barber wouldn't be kept and put on PUP and hopefully ready at midseason unless his money would help bring in someone else.

Fox, Scanlon, Caver, Grigsby, Fujita, et al - fighting for the backup/ST roles. Don't see how Bell or DJ could be supplanted by one of them and it sounds like Mitchell has the holeshot on the MLB job already.

In particular I like Fujita, but we're running out of roster spots.

[jspchief]

I don't see any reason why Barber wouldn't be kept and put on PUP and hopefully ready at midseason unless his money would help bring in someone else.


I think this is the first year where Barber's base salary gets pretty big. If he can't pass a physical at cut time, we could save a lot of money by signing an injury settlement.

I think Maz and Fujita will be able to pass a physical by the final roster cuts, so injury settlement is out of the question.

[Kclee]

Don't see how Bell or DJ could be supplanted by one of them and it sounds like Mitchell has the holeshot on the MLB job already.


Just the other day on Sirius NFL network some guy asked about DJ and if he would start. The 'expert' said that he wouldn't right away because Barber would be in his spot and the Fujita would be the other OLB and Bell would be in the middle. Some of those guys make it hard to listen that station since as of now he was wrong on all positions.

With Fox and Griffen coming along, I don't see Fujita as being around after this year.

[milkman]

I think Stills has cemented a spot as a special teams player, don't you guys?

I don't see Maz on the roster opening day. I don't see any reason why Barber wouldn't be kept and put on PUP and hopefully ready at midseason unless his money would help bring in someone else.

Fox, Scanlon, Caver, Grigsby, Fujita, et al - fighting for the backup/ST roles. Don't see how Bell or DJ could be supplanted by one of them and it sounds like Mitchell has the holeshot on the MLB job already.

In particular I like Fujita, but we're running out of roster spots.

I don't.

With Tynes, Colquitt and Gammon, there are 3 roster spots taken up by STs only players.
And while Dante Hall will get some looks on offense, I expect that they will be limited, because the reality is that Dante isn't a very effective receiver, so that's essentially 4 spots.

Having a STs player like Stills would be a luxury that I just don't think the Chiefs can afford.
He's going to have to make the roster as a LB, and with all the guys in camp, I just can't see it happening.

Guys like Boomer, Gopher and Griffen will have to fill his role on STs.

[Mr. Laz]

why would someone trade for our linebackers when they have totally sucked so bad.

not saying they don't have potiential, but how you gonna trade for someone who hasn't really proved it and are injured to boot.

not seeing this


at least jerome woods HAS performed at some point. he might get some play ... but safeties are pretty cheap usually.

[Kclee]

I don't.

With Tynes, Colquitt and Gammon, there are 3 roster spots taken up by STs only players.

How is that different than any of the previous years? We've always carried a punter, kicker, and Gammon for years and Stills made it. And if Hall is one of the 5 WR's, it will be the same situation. He could get cut if one of those players you mentioned is better at ST's, but the numbers game is the same as before.

[Kclee]

why would someone trade for our linebackers when they have totally sucked so bad.

not saying they don't have potiential, but how you gonna trade for someone who hasn't really proved it and are injured to boot.

not seeing this

I'm not seeing it either, but didn't New England try and get Fujita a few months back? If healthy, he may be worth a second day draft pick to them.

[jspchief]

How is that different than any of the previous years? We've always carried a punter, kicker, and Gammon for years and Stills made it. And if Hall is one of the 5 WR's, it will be the same situation. He could get cut if one of those players is better at ST's, but the numbers game is the same as before.The biggest difference now is that Stills has been moved to LB where we have an overload of players.

[JimNasium]

How is that different than any of the previous years? We've always carried a punter, kicker, and Gammon for years and Stills made it. And if Hall is one of the 5 WR's, it will be the same situation. He could get cut if one of those players is better at ST's, but the numbers game is the same as before.
I think Grigsby and Scanlon make Stills expendable.

[Kclee]

I think Grigsby and Scanlon make Stills expendable.

I could see that too, almost expect it.

[jspchief]

I'm not seeing it either, but didn't New England try and get Fujita a few months back? If healthy, he may be worth a second day draft pick to them.That story was never substantiated in print as far as I know. It was just a "I heard it on the radio" rumor.

But I have to think that a guy that has started on an NFL team for the last 3 years is worth something to a team that may be thin at that position. I know I'd give a second day pick for a Fujita.

[Zebedee DuBois]

I've worked with several ex-mil guys over the years, although none were ever my boss.

The ones that seem to need everyone to know they were in the military always seem to be jerks. The ones that don't make a big deal out of their military careers can be pretty good guys.

[Kclee]

The biggest difference now is that Stills has been moved to LB where we have an overload of players.

Yeah, I think he will have a hard time making the team, I was just saying that it wouldn't happen just because we have a P, K, and Gammon solely as ST'ers. That been the case for a while and he has made the team.

[milkman]

How is that different than any of the previous years? We've always carried a punter, kicker, and Gammon for years and Stills made it. And if Hall is one of the 5 WR's, it will be the same situation. He could get cut if one of those players is better at ST's, but the numbers game is the same as before.

It's not different.
What is different is that there's more talent on the defensive side of the ball than there has been in years.

Stills made the roster as a pass rush specialist because there just wasn't any talent to replace him.

The problem is, as a pass rush specialist, he sucks, and had there been a player to fill that same role in previous years, he would have been cut then.

This year, Stills has to compete with Gopher, Boomer, Fox, Fujita, and Griffen for a spot on the roster at LB.

He won't be kept as a STs player only.

[Kclee]

I've worked with several ex-mil guys over the years, although none were ever my boss.


Heh. Were any of them LB's?

[Wallcrawler]

Come on. Do you really think the Chiefs would get anything for any of those guys? Those are the guys that were on the NFL's bottom dwelling D.



Maybe so, but they sure made a much bigger deal out of Monty Beisel going to NE than I ever figured.

Here they are bragging on how Beisel started at both OLB and ILB for the Chiefs, and could do anything the Pats wanted. They neglected to mention how often he was dragged downfield by the Charger scrubs in the final game of the season however....


Fujita would get us something. Not a lot, but he did lead the team in tackles last year, and was one behind doing that the previous season. I would rather see Fujita retained, because I really dont see the logic in cutting loose your leading tackler when youre trying to improve on defense. He's got a one year tender, so they should just keep him as a reserve if he cant win the starting job.

Maz/Barber will most likely be cuts. Barber is going to account for way too much cash to be playing a backup role. I see an injury settlement for him, and Maz will just get cut in order to keep a guy like Grigsby on the roster.


Mitchell wouldnt get us jack. He hasnt proven that he can be anything but a sub-par middle linebacker. Im not crazy about him getting the start their either. If I had my choice, I would play Fujita and Johnson on the outside, and put Bell in the middle.

[keg in kc]

Doubtful.

[ct]

I've worked with several ex-mil guys over the years, although none were ever my boss.

The ones that seem to need everyone to know they were in the military always seem to be jerks. The ones that don't make a big deal out of their military careers can be pretty good guys.

I think you're on the wrong thread. :hmmm:


Barber and Maz have no trade value now. Fujita, although still rehabbing, does have some value. Not high, but we could get a 5th/6th for him. Problem is, if you do that, it leaves us real thin in experience at the backup OLB spot, where we are already thin at exp at MLB (zero exp. if Maz is released).

One of Barber, Fujita, Stills, will make the team. My guess is it's Barber, rolling the dice he'll be ready not to far into the season.

[sparkky]

Maz: cut
Stills: cut
Barber: injury settlement

I tend to agree. We not only can use any $$$ we could save but just as important are the roster spaces.
Injuries could change the whole picture tho.

[KCChiefsMan]

I see Maz, Jones and Scanlon getting cut. Stills made the pro-bowl last year for special teams I see him staying. Fox/Mitchel/Bell/Johnson/Stills(unless he's considered d-line)/Fujita/Barber
That is 7, who knows...

[Frankie]

Someone will have an injured LB after their preseason and will want Fujita. Hopefully it won't be us.

[whoman69]

Expecting trades at this point is pretty far fetched. Clubs know they can get players after the cut down if needed. Why give up draft picks for someone you can get for free?

[Brando]

On ESPN Insider there is a rumor that God will be trading his only son for Rich Scanlon.