I know it is a sin to hope for...but I wish the Phelps family would just die

[RNR]

These people are a waste of air.

[Braincase]

You'll get no argument from me. If the top .01% most prejudiced people disappeared off the face of the planet, the world would be a much better place.

[DeepSouth]

I must live a sheltered life. I don't know who the Phelps are.

[Baby Lee]

I must live a sheltered life. I don't know who the Phelps are.
Do yourself a favor and put it out of your mind.
Not worth the synapses to store any info on the subject.

[Skip Towne]

I must live a sheltered life. I don't know who the Phelps are.
They are psycho lawyers. Not sure why RNR hates them.

[alnorth]

Someone someday who is contemplating suicide and has no future, needs to take one for the team and take em out.

[Warrior5]

Read this if you have the time.

http://www.adl.org/special_reports/wbc/default.asp (http://)


Cliff notes version:

Phelps is a church leader in Topeka that claims God hates homosexuals. He also states that any organization (including Christian churches and organizations) that does not also hate homosexuals actually supports and condones homosexuality.

Tried to keep it short, and hopefully didn't leave out too much.

[Ultra Peanut]

Veronica: I want to find out who this kid is and what room he voted in.
Wallace: And I want a statue of myself in the main lobby -- holding a musket, staring down danger. Since we're talking about stuff we want.
Veronica: Please?
Wallace: How hard was that?

[Saulbadguy]

Welcome to Topeka.

[Duck Dog]

Welcome to Topeka.


Yeahh....riiight. I'm sure Phelps will be their next Mayor.

[Ralphy Boy]

I think he was on KSGF in Springfield today after an agreement was worked out between him and the station manager as a way to keep them from protesting at the funeral of a local soldier who'd been killed in Iraq and was laid to rest today. Total quack. Needs to be sent to hell himself.

[tomahawk kid]

I think he was on KSGF in Springfield today after an agreement was worked out between him and the station manager as a way to keep them from protesting at the funeral of a local soldier who'd been killed in Iraq and was laid to rest today. Total quack. Needs to be sent to hell himself.


Why was he going to protest at the funeral of a fallen soldier?

I think its ironic that religious quacks twist the bible around for their own purposes (see also Jerry Fallwell et all).

They can quote you Leviticus, which says that homosexuality is wrong. However, they seem to overlook the new testament in which Christ says:

"Judge not, lest thee be judged"

and

"Love one another, as I have loved you."

Just my $0.02....

[Abba-Dabba]

These people are a waste of air.

Have you been following the Margie Phelps thing in the paper?

I can't believe 2 Phelps children work for the Kansas Dept. of Corrections. That is shameful to the state of Kansas.

[Chieficus]

Why was he going to protest at the funeral of a fallen soldier?

IIRC, Phelps calls the war a "Fag War" or something to that effect. He sees it as a war in which we are propogating some sort of american homosexual agenda. He's against the war and against Bush, and against anyone fighting the war. On one of his webpages he has a counter that lists the number of soldiers killed in Iraq, and the counter is basically labled: Number of soldiers in hell because of the war. Hence, the protesting.

I think its ironic that religious quacks twist the bible around for their own purposes (see also Jerry Fallwell et all).

They can quote you Leviticus, which says that homosexuality is wrong. However, they seem to overlook the new testament in which Christ says:

"Judge not, lest thee be judged"

and

"Love one another, as I have loved you."

Just my $0.02....

Now I thinks Phelps is as big of an idiot as the next guy, ranks right up there with the Klan, and certainly does twist the scripture to his desire.

However, what you said there at the end is also a bit of a twist of scripture, except to go to the other extreme on the issue. When Jesus said, "Judge not," He then went on to explain exactly how one Christian is to judge another Christian. When He said, "Love one another, as I have loved you," it was a love that was bound in holiness and still looked upon sin as sin. (Hence: "Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand," "Go and sin no more," and the whole deal with throwing over the tables of the money changers in the temple and driving them out with whips.)

The point being: One can love homosexual people as Jesus loved, but still say, "Look, you're living a life of sin and need to repent."

Phelps' biggest problem is that he wants to point out the sin, without love, care, and concern.

[tomahawk kid]

IIRC, Phelps calls the war a "Fag War" or something to that effect. He sees it as a war in which we are propogating some sort of american homosexual agenda. He's against the war and against Bush, and against anyone fighting the war. On one of his webpages he has a counter that lists the number of soldiers killed in Iraq, and the counter is basically labled: Number of soldiers in hell because of the war. Hence, the protesting.



Now I thinks Phelps is as big of an idiot as the next guy, ranks right up there with the Klan, and certainly does twist the scripture to his desire.

However, what you said there at the end is also a bit of a twist of scripture, except to go to the other extreme on the issue. When Jesus said, "Judge not," He then went on to explain exactly how one Christian is to judge another Christian. When He said, "Love one another, as I have loved you," it was a love that was bound in holiness and still looked upon sin as sin. (Hence: "Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand," "Go and sin no more," and the whole deal with throwing over the tables of the money changers in the temple and driving them out with whips.)

The point being: One can love homosexual people as Jesus loved, but still say, "Look, you're living a life of sin and need to repent."

Phelps' biggest problem is that he wants to point out the sin, without love, care, and concern.


Exactly. I completely understand what you're saying. I guess I'm more comfortable leaving the judgement up to God and letting everyone else live their own lives. Having said that, I understand that God HATES sin, but I have a hard time believing God HATES any person (ex: homosexuals)

I used the examples in the new testament as a way of only choosing "certain" passages in a bible chapter or verse, but leaving out the others. Ex: Leviticus also states that men who sleep in the same bed as a woman whose menstrated should be put to death.

I should have better clarified my point better.

[Iowanian]

Those curdled prickbutter guzzlers protested the funeral of an Iowa soldier killed, whose brother was also a soldier and killed(not in Iraq) 2 days prior to the funeral.

There will be room in my ride if you want to come along, to take a dump on his gravestone.

[Dave Lane]

Those curdled prickbutter guzzlers protested the funeral of an Iowa soldier killed, whose brother was also a soldier and killed(not in Iraq) 2 days prior to the funeral.

There will be room in my ride if you want to come along, to take a dump on his gravestone.

Put me down for a nice festering burrito concoction.

Dave

[Dave Lane]

I like this bit from his web site. Would this be a bannable offense? For me it would and I don't even support the war.

Dave

Thank God for IEDs killing American soldiers in strange lands every day.

WBC rejoices every time the Lord God in His vengeance kills or maims an American soldier with an Improvised Explosive Device (IED). "The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked" (Ps. 58:10).

This nation bombed and raided the Westboro Baptist Church, and now the Holy God that Inhabits Eternity is repaying those heinous acts with His retaliatory wrath; "Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord" (Rom. 12:19).

To most effectively cause America to know her abominations (Ez. 16:2), WBC will picket the funerals of these Godless, Rump Ranger army American soldiers when their pieces return home. WBC will also picket their landing spot, in Dover, Delaware early and often.

Face it, America! You have become a Rump Ranger-filled nation of flag worshipers and necromancers. Your only terrorist is the Lord your God! He fights against you personally. "And I myself will fight against you with an outstretched hand and with a strong arm, even in anger, and in fury, and in great wrath" (Jer. 21:5).

[Iowanian]

I wonder if that jackass would internally combust if he knew that a high percentage of Iraqi men and the insurgents hump other dudes, and boys for fun?

The sad thing is, some soldier will see his bullshit at a funeral of his friend, or his return and end up in Prison for doing the world a favor. If anyone in the world deserves Ass Cancer...its Fred Felch.

[Brock]

Seriously, I don't know why nobody has taken a serious look at Fred through the scope of a deer rifle.

[Dave Lane]

Seriously, I don't know why nobody has taken a serious look at Fred through the scope of a deer rifle.

I'm not much on solving things through violence but in this case I think I could look the other way.

Dave

[chagrin]

Wow, Dave Lane. Thanks for posting that, I didn't fully grasp this guy's dementia until I read that, wow, just wow. What a shame.

[Iowanian]

I think it might be better if he weren't "martyred" for his douchebag, like thinking kind.

It would be more appropriate if he were to fall off of a soapbox and impale one of those big picket signs in his arse.......or a Terminal disease where every med student in KS had to stick their thumb in his butt.

If it were my family member he was protesting........I'd be in prison.

[KCChiefsMan]

a few years back they were on KU campus hootin and hollerin about teh gays. I don't understand such ignorance

[Frazod]

He probably takes it in the ass.

[Brock]

Reading the story his son tells about his upbringing is very enlightening.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/michael_haggerty/expose3.htm

[teedubya]

I wish that same slow death on Ann Coulter... does that make me evil?

[Chris Meck]

well, if it does, me too.

Chris

[gblowfish]

The Fredmeister is a classic Kansas nut job, kind of like John Brown, but instead of being anti-slavery, he's anti-gay. He's a dis-barred lawyer and "minister." I use that term loosely. He routinely pickets churches in Topeka, Gage Park, I even saw him at the Cotton Bowl when KSU played BYU. He's picketed funerals of AIDS victims. He and his family share a church "compound" in Topeka.

Here's the reader's digest version on Fred:
www.plattsburghforpeace.com/ fredphelps.htm

They guy routinely requires police protection, costing Topeka taxpayers.

[Frazod]

I wish these people would drop the bullshit and call themselves what they really are - TALIBAN.

[Lzen]

Yeahh....riiight. I'm sure Phelps will be their next Mayor.

Whoa, whoa, whoa!! Hold the phone!! If you're being sarcastic then forget this next part. But if not, make no mistake, Phelps DOES NOT represent Topeka in any way, shape, or form. The police and city council and mayor have all had their run-ins with the Phelps clan. The fact that they're lawyers and use the law to their advantage makes our elected officials scared of them. But most of Topeka would not mind at all if the Phelps clan disappeared from the face of the Earth.

[Dave Lane]

Maybe they could do a Skidmore MO job on him and everyone just kill him and say nothing about it...

Dave

[Lzen]

Maybe they could do a Skidmore MO job on him and everyone just kill him and say nothing about it...

Dave

In Broad Daylight? Or something like that.

[Rausch]

Reading the story his son tells about his upbringing is very enlightening.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/michael_haggerty/expose3.htm

He sounds like he's more than one type of brain-sick. Paranoid schitzo who thinks there's a secret army of teh ghey hell bent on conquering the earth.

Yeah, that sounds crazy to me...

[Spicy McHaggis]

Let's get him wasted and when he passes out we can take incriminating photos of him with a male stripper. If he's truly devoted to his insane cause then he'll have no choice but to throw himself off a cliff into shark infested waters once he awakens. And here's the kicker, the sharks that eat him? They're homosexual.

[Ultra Peanut]

He sounds like he's more than one type of brain-sick. Paranoid schitzo who thinks there's a secret army of teh ghey hell bent on conquering the earth.

Yeah, that sounds crazy to me...*cough*

<img src="http://www.bestofneworleans.com/dispatch/2002-09-10/h7-hotpik-1.jpg" style="width: 150px; height: 180px; border: 0" alt="" />

*cough*

You know I's playin'...

[Pitt Gorilla]

Have you been following the Margie Phelps thing in the paper?

I can't believe 2 Phelps children work for the Kansas Dept. of Corrections. That is shameful to the state of Kansas.Eh, what's a little more shame for the once, well, at least better, state. That whole place is crazy. I was once proud that I went to school in Kansas.

[RNR]

I guess what I find most repulsive are people who hide behind the cloth or bible to push their own agenda. I do not agree with a homosexual lifestyle, and there are probably things about my life that they would not agree with.

No matter how much I oppose someone's stance or walk in life I would never show the distaste to protest at their funeral victimizing family members. They did not take the stance of deceased and to traumatize family members is disgraceful.

I have never struck a woman in anger, however, with God as my witness, if I bumped into this Margie woman or any of her family members I would knock them the f*** out. God hates America? Really? The same people who are willing to put their lifes on the line to defend their right to be full of shit they protest. If these people make it to heaven I will gladly take hell.

[Hammock Parties]

Yeah but the dude can really hit homeruns:

http://www.790thezone.com/vdVirtual/APPhotos/SPD10304100039@news.ap.org.jpg

[DenverChief]

I love how they are just hanging themselves everyday with their rhetoric espeially regarding the soldiers

[Skip Towne]

I love how they are just hanging themselves everyday with their rhetoric espeially regarding the soldiers
They've been around forever. I'm shocked Fred is still around. He must be 90. Aren't a couple of the kids lawyers as well as the old man?

[unlurking]

Someone should start following him around with posters of scantily clad men saying "I think Fred is sexy". I'd pay admission to see a gay pride parade circle his compound for a few hours.

[Ultra Peanut]

Someone should start following him around with posters of scantily clad men saying "I think Fred is sexy". I'd pay admission to see a gay pride parade circle his compound for a few hours.Brilliant!

[Lzen]

I love how they are just hanging themselves everyday with their rhetoric espeially regarding the soldiers

Yep. Like someone mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm surprised nobody has taken them out yet. As much hate as they propagate, you'd think that it would've pushed someone over the edge by now. It's shameful what that clan is doing. Especially when they're doing in the name of God.
:shake:

[Dave Lane]

Someone should start following him around with posters of scantily clad men saying "I think Fred is sexy". I'd pay admission to see a gay pride parade circle his compound for a few hours.


How about cropping his head on a naked body and have the sign saying "I LOVE Fred I want a piece of his ass!"

Then march around in front of his house. Only trouble is he may take you up on it. I mean really you KNOW this guy is a latent homo if there ever was one.

Dave

[Calcountry]

Exactly. I completely understand what you're saying. I guess I'm more comfortable leaving the judgement up to God and letting everyone else live their own lives. Having said that, I understand that God HATES sin, but I have a hard time believing God HATES any person (ex: homosexuals)

I used the examples in the new testament as a way of only choosing "certain" passages in a bible chapter or verse, but leaving out the others. Ex: Leviticus also states that men who sleep in the same bed as a woman whose menstrated should be put to death.

I should have better clarified my point better.While we were YET sinners, Christ died for us.

[Calcountry]

Yeah but the dude can really hit homeruns:

http://www.790thezone.com/vdVirtual/APPhotos/SPD10304100039@news.ap.org.jpgYes, and so can the Rangers, but so what?