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oaklandhater
08-14-2005, 12:34 AM
Is it to early to call 2004 a Wasted draft ?

I was looking at the 2004 draft and if you would have exchanged our draft with the panthers.



Chris Gamble instead of Junior Siavii (looking like a bust)
Keary Colbert instead of Kris Wilson (I hate this guy so much id love for him to come on the feild and break his leg and never play again)

Keep Keyaron Fox has our 3RD

All im saying is If we had Colbert and Gamble we would not have had to scramble for a replacement for Mortan and Warfeild right?
Deberg_1990
08-14-2005, 12:36 AM
Yea, Especially if Allen was a fluke last year and Sampson doesnt work out.
go bo
08-14-2005, 12:38 AM
i don't think we're scrambling...

and you haven't seen kris wilson in a full-blown al saunders offense yet...

the kid's gonna give opposing d-coordinators fits...
go bo
08-14-2005, 12:39 AM
Yea, Especially if Allen was a fluke last year and Sampson doesnt work out.allen's got a lot to learn about playing the run, but sampson looked pretty darned good out there...
oaklandhater
08-14-2005, 12:42 AM
i don't think we're scrambling...

and you haven't seen kris wilson in a full-blown al saunders offense yet...

the kid's gonna give opposing d-coordinators fits...



Keep on drinking that Kool-laid Bo even if he has a good year that was the bigest Reach in a NFL DRAFT, Ive ever seen some draft Bords had him going in the 6th round!!!!
Deberg_1990
08-14-2005, 12:44 AM
Siavii was projected to go in the 4th round as well...
BigMeatballDave
08-14-2005, 12:54 AM
Kris Wilson (I hate this guy so much id love for him to come on the feild and break his leg and never play again)

WTF?!
:spock:
BigMeatballDave
08-14-2005, 12:57 AM
Keep on drinking that Kool-laid Bo even if he has a good year that was the bigest Reach in a NFL DRAFT, Ive ever seen some draft Bords had him going in the 6th round!!!!Just keep in mind that Priest Holmes was NEVER EVEN ****ING DRAFTED! You probably said he was just gonna be a 3rd down back...
oaklandhater
08-14-2005, 01:04 AM
Just keep in mind that Priest Holmes was NEVER EVEN ****ING DRAFTED! You probably said he was just gonna be a 3rd down back...


Frist off Wilson is no Holmes 2nd off you know what ill keep in mind that right after we drafted Kris wilson every one knew that was a Stupid Stupid move 1 week later every one starts tlaking about wilson he is going to change the game.Its like you ppl forgot that our D sucked in 03 and was going to suck in 04 its like you would rather have Wilson,Then some one who can help on D!!!!
oaklandhater
08-14-2005, 01:07 AM
You probably said he was just gonna be a 3rd down back...

NO ONE SAW HOLMES COMING and any one who says they knew from the moment we picked him up he was going to be Great is a Liar!
Mecca
08-14-2005, 01:09 AM
Just so you know Chris Gamble was picked before our pick so technically speaking we didn't "pass" on him.
oaklandhater
08-14-2005, 01:16 AM
Just so you know Chris Gamble was picked before our pick so technically speaking we didn't "pass" on him.


only becuase we traded down we had the pick before Car that year
Mecca
08-14-2005, 01:17 AM
only becuase we traded down we had the pick before Car that year

Carolina traded up in front of us for Gamble he was off the board before we ever came up to pick.
Mecca
08-14-2005, 01:23 AM
Anyway even if you dislike a draft you can't really call a draft a horrible draft till a few years down the line. If the draft produces 3 starters and 2 significant role players and 1 bust that's not a bad draft. Teams can do far far worse than that on draft day.

Especially considering where we picked in that draft, I don't consider last years draft a horrid draft at this time. The Siavii pick wasn't good, but the rest of it doesn't look that bad.
oaklandhater
08-14-2005, 01:25 AM
Well its still early to call it a good draft since parker and wilson havent had much playing time :)
Mecca
08-14-2005, 01:34 AM
I think we need to stop drafting Defensive Tackles early in the draft, we are not good at it. I'd rather just sign some proven guys in free agency for that position. I think the team right now should be looking at what DT's and DE's are available because I was not that impressed with the dline again.

Wendell Bryant and Norman Hand are free agents as far as I know. I'd have no problem bringing those guys in here to see what they got, what could it hurt.

Also just so everyone knows, Casey Hamptons a free agent after this year. I'm gonna ride that bandwagon forever to get him to sign here. He's the kinda guy we need.
BigMeatballDave
08-14-2005, 01:35 AM
NO ONE SAW HOLMES COMING and any one who says they knew from the moment we picked him up he was going to be Great is a Liar!I figured him to be a much better than a 3rd downer. I am always willing to give players the benefit of the doubt.
Abba-Dabba
08-14-2005, 01:37 AM
NO ONE SAW HOLMES COMING and any one who says they knew from the moment we picked him up he was going to be Great is a Liar!

Wrong, wrong, wrong. There were many people here and elsewhere that predicted Preist to succeed in KC. Did they expect him to succeed as much as he has? No. You can't expect or predict the kind of production he has put up as a Kansas City Chief. But, that is not the point. The point is you couldn't be more wrong than you ever are right now with that statement.
Ultra Peanut
08-14-2005, 04:49 AM
Is it to early to call 2004 a Wasted draft ?

I was looking at the 2004 draft and if you would have exchanged our draft with the panthers.



Chris Gamble instead of Junior Siavii (looking like a bust)
Keary Colbert instead of Kris Wilson (I hate this guy so much id love for him to come on the feild and break his leg and never play again)

Keep Keyaron Fox has our 3RD

All im saying is If we had Colbert and Gamble we would not have had to scramble for a replacement for Mortan and Warfeild right?AWESOME.
HemiEd
08-14-2005, 04:51 AM
Keary Colbert instead of Kris Wilson (I hate this guy so much id love for him to come on the feild and break his leg and never play again)


NO ONE SAW HOLMES COMING and any one who says they knew from the moment we picked him up he was going to be Great is a Liar!


You are an idiot.
htismaqe
08-14-2005, 05:31 AM
Not being happy with a Chiefs draft -- ordinary.

Wishing a career-ending injury on a player just because we could have drafted someone else -- priceless. Oh, and utterly stupid.
the Talking Can
08-14-2005, 06:13 AM
Chris Gamble instead of Junior Siavii (looking like a bust)
Keary Colbert instead of Kris Wilson (I hate this guy so much id love for him to come on the feild and break his leg and never play again)


what kind of asshole would write this?
chop
08-14-2005, 06:52 AM
Keep on drinking that Kool-laid Bo even if he has a good year that was the bigest Reach in a NFL DRAFT, Ive ever seen some draft Bords had him going in the 6th round!!!!


Is it too early to call your elementary, junior high, and high school years wasted? :D


I'm just messing with you. I know there are several of my old teachers that wouldn't be too happy with some of my posts here either.
Gaz
08-14-2005, 07:00 AM
Zero class.

xoxo~
Gaz
Hates to see this kind of crap from a Chiefs fan.
Ralphy Boy
08-14-2005, 08:01 AM
Frist off Wilson is no Holmes 2nd off you know what ill keep in mind that right after we drafted Kris wilson every one knew that was a Stupid Stupid move 1 week later every one starts tlaking about wilson he is going to change the game.Its like you ppl forgot that our D sucked in 03 and was going to suck in 04 its like you would rather have Wilson,Then some one who can help on D!!!!

Here's some advice: if you want anyone to care about your opinion, try using a spell check, try throwing in a comma. That way when you ramble on aimlessly, at least people won't look at you as the complete idiot you are.
jspchief
08-14-2005, 08:06 AM
Too early to call the '04 draft a bust? Hell No! In fact, it was declared a bust the day it happened....
Bowser
08-14-2005, 08:13 AM
Methinks that oaklandhater was in the sauce when he typed this.

Wilson has already broken his leg. At least be original.
penchief
08-14-2005, 08:21 AM
Keep on drinking that Kool-laid Bo even if he has a good year that was the bigest Reach in a NFL DRAFT, Ive ever seen some draft Bords had him going in the 6th round!!!!

I think you,re definitely wrong on this one. I agree with go bo. Wilson is a natural pass catcher with wide receiver speed and a fullback's body. He will be effective in this offense. It seems like every highlight I've seen of him shows a guy who has great hands and who can catch in traffic at full speed.
Phobia
08-14-2005, 08:51 AM
Methinks that oaklandhater was in the sauce when he typed this.

That wsa my frist imperussion to he deosnt like teh Wlison pick becuas he was projacted to get pick in the 4th ronund thuogh.
NaptownChief
08-14-2005, 08:57 AM
I think you,re definitely wrong on this one. I agree with go bo. Wilson is a natural pass catcher with wide receiver speed and a fullback's body. He will be effective in this offense. It seems like every highlight I've seen of him shows a guy who has great hands and who can catch in traffic at full speed.

I agree with that...I didn't like the Wilson pick but not because of his talent...just because we had big needs on the defensive side of the ball and at WR. Adding a player at a strenght position that high in the draft didn't make a ton of sense at the time but I do think he has a good chance of making some very good contributions this season and well into the future.
BigRedChief
08-14-2005, 08:58 AM
That wsa my frist imperussion to he deosnt like teh Wlison pick becuas he was projacted to get pick in the 4th ronund thuogh.

You making fun of my spelling?:mad:
shaneo69
08-14-2005, 09:02 AM
When Trent compared Kris Wilson to Mikael Ricks this week in an interview, it made me shudder. He said something like Saunders is trying to create mis-matches for Wilson like they tried to do with Ricks. Ugghh. If that's the case, Wilson is going to be a waste.

Saunders loves his toys but instead of wasting time trying to run trick plays like he does with Dante, he should just focus on getting the ball to Priest, LJ, or Gonzo. If the other guys happen to be open, then they should get the ball. But don't waste your time putting these guys in the game only for these "exotic" plays, only to have the defense know that you're trying to get them the ball.

That's probably my biggest complaint of Saunders. Oh look, here comes Dante in the game. It's either gonna be a reverse or a quick pass out to Dante for a 1 yard gain.
Baby Lee
08-14-2005, 12:26 PM
NO ONE SAW HOLMES COMING and any one who says they knew from the moment we picked him up he was going to be Great is a Liar!
I didn't see that he'd be the NFL's very best, but I knew he'd be the best we had since Okoye [and that includes Marcus, who was still the greatest short yardage back, but just OK as a workhorse or to-the-house threat by the time he got here]. You'll never read anything but praise from me from the moment he hit the radar.
Ultra Peanut
08-14-2005, 12:57 PM
That wsa my frist imperussion to he deosnt like teh Wlison pick becuas he was projacted to get pick in the 4th ronund thuogh.ROFL

Saunders loves his toys but instead of wasting time trying to run trick plays like he does with Dante, he should just focus on getting the ball to Priest, LJ, or Gonzo.Yeah, because we've been sooo terrible at doing that.

WILSON WAGON: GET ON OR LET IT RUN YOUR ASS OVER!
oaklandhater
08-14-2005, 01:04 PM
Wrong, wrong, wrong. There were many people here and elsewhere that predicted Preist to succeed in KC. Did they expect him to succeed as much as he has? No. You can't expect or predict the kind of production he has put up as a Kansas City Chief. But, that is not the point. The point is you couldn't be more wrong than you ever are right now with that statement.


Did i say he was not going to be good I said no one Thought he was going to be Great.
oaklandhater
08-14-2005, 01:11 PM
ROFL

Yeah, because we've been sooo terrible at doing that.

WILSON WAGON: GET ON OR LET IT RUN YOUR ASS OVER!


ILL NEVER GET ON THE WAGON NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bowser
08-14-2005, 01:13 PM
When Trent compared Kris Wilson to Mikael Ricks this week in an interview, it made me shudder. He said something like Saunders is trying to create mis-matches for Wilson like they tried to do with Ricks. Ugghh. If that's the case, Wilson is going to be a waste.


You left out the rest. Trent went on to say that the Gonzo-Ricks set never really worked because Ricks wasn't able to do the things that Kris Wilson can do.
Nightfyre
08-14-2005, 01:16 PM
Hey, Oakland hater, Punctuation is great. Maturity is better. Get some and get back to us.
Ultra Peanut
08-14-2005, 01:16 PM
You left out the rest. Trent went on to say that the Gonzo-Ricks set never really worked because Ricks wasn't able to do the things that Kris Wilson can do.Shhhhhh. Let them find out the hard way.

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MGRS13
08-14-2005, 01:52 PM
NO ONE SAW HOLMES COMING and any one who says they knew from the moment we picked him up he was going to be Great is a Liar!No one could have seen Priest doing what he has done, agreed. But I did think it was a good signing. I had seen what he had done in Baltimore and thought wow we are getting a thousand yard rusher for almost nothing.