Got the dog "de-snaked" on Saturday... (56k stay away)

[Hammock Parties]

We take the dog out from time to time to hunt, and around here there are rattlesnakes. There is this program not far from us that "de-snakes" your dog, that is, use a little shock therapy to prevent your dog from going near rattlesnakes and other snakes.

All in all it was interesting and there were quite a few dogs there, including a couple other German Wirehair Pointers (my breed). I thought a couple of the smaller ones were going to be launched into orbit when they got zapped. ROFL

Pics to follow...

[Hammock Parties]

Tess meets a rattlesnake for the first time...

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They wet the dogs down to ensure conduction...

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This little dog had decided it wanted to hump all the larger ones. ROFL

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A male wirehair:

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Looks like my dog...but it's not. Could have fooled me.

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[Logical]

I have to say I was disappointed I was looking forward to seeing a dog 4 ft in the air legs all askew, clearly letting out a yip and it's hair standing on end.

[Hammock Parties]

I have to say I was disappointed I was looking forward to seeing a dog 4 ft in the air legs all askew, clearly letting out a yip and it's hair standing on end.

Some of the dogs actually did that, but I am not that good at action photography, especially with a slow shutter digital camera.

Most of the dogs just yelped and ran away from the snake.

[Hammock Parties]

Bump!

[dtebbe]

If you take your dog to be "de-snaked"....


You might be a red _ _ _ _


We're not laughing at you, really! ROFL

DT

[Hammock Parties]

If you take your dog to be "de-snaked"....


You might be a red _ _ _ _


We're not laughing at you, really! ROFL

DT

I think redneck is acceptable here.

[Rain Man]

All in all it was interesting and there were quite a few dogs there, including a couple other German Wirehair Pointers (my breed).


I had no idea that you're a dog.

[Hammock Parties]

I had no idea that you're a dog.

Woof aruff woof roof roooo!

[dtebbe]

I think redneck is acceptable here.

I know it damn sure is here, why do you think I don't mind calling you a redneck. Like two brothas tossing around the "N" word ROFL

REDNECK ... YOU CRAZY!

dt

[Rain Man]

Woof aruff woof roof roooo!

Hey! Stop sniffing me there!

[Terribilis]

I dont understand this- whats the snake have on its tail?

[Hammock Parties]

I dont understand this- whats the snake have on its tail?

It's a proximity-shocker thing. When the dog gets too close to the snake, the shock-receiver around the dog's neck goes off.

It's not on the tail, either.

[Terribilis]

aaahh
i imagined a much less humane gadget

[Hammock Parties]

aaahh
i imagined a much less humane gadget

What exactly did you imagine? I am surprised badgirl or chiefs4me didn't come in this thread and say something.

[Saulbadguy]

Do they use a real snake?

[Hammock Parties]

Yeah, they have trained snake handlers and stuff. I think one of them was de-rattled, but the other one was rattling. Pretty sure the snakes are de-fanged, too.

[jspchief]

Just make sure the dog doesn't learn to associate the collar with the shock. Dogs are smart when it comes to sh*t like that.

What do you hunt down there? Quail? I wouldn't think Pheasant would do well.

[Hammock Parties]

Just make sure the dog doesn't learn to associate the collar with the shock. Dogs are smart when it comes to sh*t like that.

What do you hunt down there? Quail? I wouldn't think Pheasant would do well.

Well the collar was just for the session. I dunno how it works but I guess the dog associates snakes with pain now, and leaves them alone.

[jspchief]

Well the collar was just for the session. That's perfect.

If your dog learns the only time he ever gets shocks is sometime after a different collar gets put on, he'll eventually figure out that the collar is responsible.

My Weimeraner knows exactly what the shock collar means, although it's still effective in the field. It's just not effective as a training tool anymore.

[Hammock Parties]

That's perfect.

If your dog learns the only time he ever gets shocks is sometime after a different collar gets put on, he'll eventually figure out that the collar is responsible.

My Weimeraner knows exactly what the shock collar means, although it's still effective in the field. It's just not effective as a training tool anymore.

Beats the hell out of me. The program works. People come from other states to get their dog desnaked here. :shrug:

They have "refresher" sessions as well.

[jspchief]

They have "refresher" sessions as well.The refresher sessions is where you could get in trouble. Going too often could be a problem. Just like the dog will remember the shock and the snake, he'll remember getting a new collar put on for that moment.

Ideally, you'd put the collar on way in advance with the hopes that he doesn't ever put it in the same memory as the snake and the shock.

Or, if the dog truly has forgotten why he's supposed to stay away from snakes, he's probably forgotten the collar as well.

I'm sure if you're paying someone to do it, they are probably professional enough to know all of this.

[Hammock Parties]

Do you have a better idea? Putting the collar on the dog out in the field is not going to do any good. He will see the snake before you do. The idea is to teach him to stay away from a snake when HE sees it.

[jidar]

I have a dog who I put a shock collar on to stop his barking, he definately understands that he gets shocked while barked because he stops.. he also understands that when you take the collar off he can bark his head off. I'm sure it works for lots of dogs, I'm also sure lots of dogs figure it out.

[jspchief]

Do you have a better idea? Putting the collar on the dog out in the field is not going to do any good. He will see the snake before you do. The idea is to teach him to stay away from a snake when HE sees it.No, I don't have a better idea. I think it's probably an excellent method if done properly.

I wasn't trying to say it was bad. I was simply warning that if done wrong, the dog will "figure out" that the collar is part of the experience.

[Hammock Parties]

No, I don't have a better idea. I think it's probably an excellent method if done properly.

I wasn't trying to say it was bad. I was simply warning that if done wrong, the dog will "figure out" that the collar is part of the experience.

You know, I'm not sure how it works either. I guess the fact that it is only done a couple times and the refresher courses are not supposed to be done that often.

[badgirl]

I have a dog who I put a shock collar on to stop his barking, he definately understands that he gets shocked while barked because he stops.. he also understands that when you take the collar off he can bark his head off. I'm sure it works for lots of dogs, I'm also sure lots of dogs figure it out.
I used a barking collar for my dog but instead of shocking her it made a high pitch noise that bothered her, it worked very good. I have tried to get Stumppy to get a collar for his dogs but he won't.