Is anyone listening to 610 right now???

[bobbything]

Grunhart is going off the deep end. Ripping KC fans a new one.

"Why as a fan do you know more than me? I've played football for 2698 years, analyzed it for 399948 years, coached it for 3483883838383883 years. So I have the credibility!!"

"I told you fans to sit back and enjoy the game. But nooooooooooooo. You had to analyze it and get all upset over the performance. It's a glorified scrimmage!!!! Just relax!!!"

"Why do you fans think you know more than Gunther Cunningham?? You guys don't really understand football!! You don't know what the hell you're talking about!! Do you know that if the middle linebacker gives up the A gap that the strong safety is supposed to cover that gap??? NO!! NO YOU DON'T!! So quit your bitching!!!"

Oh. My. God. He's losing it. As a fan that pays for games, gear, etc., I'll analyze the 1st preseason game if I want.

Grunhart can kiss my pasty, white ass.

[Bowser]

He was only directing that towards those who aren't "real" fans.

[BigRedChief]

Chewing out and belittling your fans is not a good option for a radio host getting his ass kicked by the blandest show on the face of the earth.

I loved Gunny on the field but he takes the ownership/players side almost every time over the fans side of things.

[BigRedChief]

He was only directing that towards those who aren't "real" fans.
Whew I was worried there for a mintue.

[bobbything]

He's pissed. But, you know what? That crap pisses me off too. I hate it when people try and "big time" other people. It's horseshit.

All this "I know more than you because I played the game" nonsense is patronizing.

[Uatu]

"Why as a fan do you know more than me? I've played football for 2698 years, analyzed it for 399948 years, coached it for 3483883838383883 years..."

" It's a glorified scrimmage!!!! Just relax!!!"

"Why do you fans think you know more than Gunther Cunningham??"


Although he could be more polite, it's pretty much right. I mean, come on. The tards calling his show have trouble pronouncing the players' names sometimes, let alone understanding the nuts and bolts.

It's not like fans are incapable of understanding the game, but it's hard to argue that someone who played professionally for 12 or 13 years doesn't know more about it than you.

I mean, I know a thing or two about cars, but if I thought one thing was wrong with mine and a mechanic of 13+ years told me it was something else... I'd be inclined to lend more weight to his opinion.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Grunny's rating must really suck.

[chief52]

While I can not listen to 610 I must agree with one thing you say Grunhard stated. " It's a glorified scrimmage!" I do believe that. It amazes me how serious some people take "exhibition" games. They are so overated by many fans in my opinion. Bring on the real games...

[KCTitus]

I can analyze all my game film and see things better than Gunther and Grunhard...especially the game film on the TC website. What I see is clearly disturbing.

[Lzen]

Although he could be more polite, it's pretty much right. I mean, come on. The tards calling his show have trouble pronouncing the players' names sometimes, let alone understanding the nuts and bolts.

It's not like fans are incapable of understanding the game, but it's hard to argue that someone who played professionally for 12 or 13 years doesn't know more about it than you.

I mean, I know a thing or two about cars, but if I thought one thing was wrong with mine and a mechanic of 13+ years told me it was something else... I'd be inclined to lend more weight to his opinion.


:clap:

And I've heard some of these morons that call into these radio shows. The uninformed or uneducated fan tends to go off the deep end after one preseason game.

[bkkcoh]

While I can not listen to 610 I must agree with one thing you say Grunhard stated. " It's a glorified scrimmage!" I do believe that. It amazes me how serious some people take "exhibition" games. They are so overated by many fans in my opinion. Bring on the real games...


Reason in the land of Choas.... :hmmm:

[Bowser]

Although he could be more polite, it's pretty much right. I mean, come on. The tards calling his show have trouble pronouncing the players' names sometimes, let alone understanding the nuts and bolts.

It's not like fans are incapable of understanding the game, but it's hard to argue that someone who played professionally for 12 or 13 years doesn't know more about it than you.

I mean, I know a thing or two about cars, but if I thought one thing was wrong with mine and a mechanic of 13+ years told me it was something else... I'd be inclined to lend more weight to his opinion.

You would think that Grunny would realize that to, and take it all with a massive grain of salt.

[Lzen]

I can analyze all my game film and see things better than Gunther and Grunhard...especially the game film on the TC website. What I see is clearly disturbing.

The game film on the TC website? Are you serious or just being a smartass as usual?
:hmmm:

[Phobia]

:clap:

And I've heard some of these morons that call into these radio shows. The uninformed or uneducated fan tends to go off the deep end after one preseason game.

How informed or educated does a fan need to be in order to understand the Chiefs haven't won the SB in 36 years or a postseason game since 93?

[KCTitus]

The game film on the TC website? Are you serious or just being a smartass as usual? :hmmm:

http://www.uwrf.edu/chiefs/photogallery.php

While it's not as good as the game film I get from taping the games on TV, it's still valuable for me to watch pursuit angles and whether or not Green is going through his progressions properly.

[Uatu]

:clap:

And I've heard some of these morons that call into these radio shows. The uninformed or uneducated fan tends to go off the deep end after one preseason game.

What killed me last year was that people would always call in blaming the offense when we lost.

They missed some third down conversion in the last two minutes, trying to desperately mount a drive to make up for the last TD the defense gave up, and the brain-donor sportsradio callers will be ready to string up Green.

Nah, it's not the defense giving up 30 points every week and making scrub running backs look like pro bowlers that's the problem, it's that "dat QB, uh, whut's he's name... uh... Green... he ain't tough enough! we need someone bettern' dat if we's ever gon' win!"

[bobbything]

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with Grunhart, but, for as much as he knows about football, he knows equally less about public relations.

He's calling Chiefs fans "stupid." And there's a better way of saying, "Don't worry, they'll be fine," without saying, "I know more than you. You don't have any idea what you're talking about."

Very unprofessional to rip the listeners the way he was doing it. All it takes is the flip of a dial, and judging from the recent ratings, it looks as if most people have.

[Lzen]

How informed or educated does a fan need to be in order to understand the Chiefs haven't won the SB in 36 years or a postseason game since 93?

I'm not saying all of the callers are morons. But c'mon, have you listened to some of these people?

[Lzen]

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with Grunhart, but, for as much as he knows about football, he knows equally less about public relations.

He's calling Chiefs fans "stupid." And there's a better way of saying, "Don't worry, they'll be fine," without saying, "I know more than you. You're don't have any idea what you're talking about."

Very unprofessional to rip the listeners the way he was doing it. All it takes is the flip of a dial, and judging from the recent ratings, it looks as if most people have.


I'll agree that it sounds like Grunny is handling this poorly.

[Phobia]

I'm not saying all of the callers are morons. But c'mon, have you listened to some of these people?

Most of them are idiots. I agree. One time I even got a little lit and called to make a fool of myself. I haven't called back since. I figured I'd spare the KC airwaves of my own brand of idiocy.

[KCTitus]

He's calling Chiefs fans "stupid." And there's a better way of saying, "Don't worry, they'll be fine," without saying, "I know more than you. You're don't have any idea what you're talking about."

Right...it's hard to deal with flat out stupidity. The trick is to tell them their stupid in a way that has them walk away happy about it.

[ChiTown]

Right...it's hard to deal with flat out stupidity. The trick is to tell them their stupid in a way that has them walk away happy about it.

True to it's definition......ignornace is bliss :)

[Messier]

How informed or educated does a fan need to be in order to understand the Chiefs haven't won the SB in 36 years or a postseason game since 93?


But what does that have to do with these players or these coaches? You can't get mad at a team for a past that has nothing to do with them.

I think the Royals are great because that World Series 20 years ago was awsome!

[Lzen]

http://www.uwrf.edu/chiefs/photogallery.php

While it's not as good as the game film I get from taping the games on TV, it's still valuable for me to watch pursuit angles and whether or not Green is going through his progressions properly.


Eh, those pics don't show a whole lot. And the view you get from watching the game on TV doesn't tell you much, either, because they don't usually show you what's going on downfield. Except for the occasional replay breakdown. But knowing you, I'm guessing that this is probably the point you were trying to make. ;)

[KCTitus]

Eh, those pics don't show a whole lot. And the view you get from watching the game on TV doesn't tell you much, either, because they don't usually show you what's going on downfield. Except for the occasional replay breakdown.

How dare you question my fandom! :deevee:

[Messier]

The coaches look at much better pictures than that with those overhead cameras, pictures we don't see.

[Nasty]

(I'm sorry but this has nothing to do with this thread... but please help me)
I am a Fin fan and am pretty new to this site... I came on here once before around the time of the Surtain trade. I wanted to start a thread but it wont allow me. Is it because I havent been on here in a while? Can someone please help me like a moderator or something? thanks...

Nasty

[Kylo Ren]

Grunhart is going off the deep end. Ripping KC fans a new one.

"Why as a fan do you know more than me? I've played football for 2698 years, analyzed it for 399948 years, coached it for 3483883838383883 years. So I have the credibility!!"

"I told you fans to sit back and enjoy the game. But nooooooooooooo. You had to analyze it and get all upset over the performance. It's a glorified scrimmage!!!! Just relax!!!"

"Why do you fans think you know more than Gunther Cunningham?? You guys don't really understand football!! You don't know what the hell you're talking about!! Do you know that if the middle linebacker gives up the A gap that the strong safety is supposed to cover that gap??? NO!! NO YOU DON'T!! So quit your bitching!!!"

Oh. My. God. He's losing it. As a fan that pays for games, gear, etc., I'll analyze the 1st preseason game if I want.

Grunhart can kiss my pasty, white ass.

His message is correct, but his delivery is poor. If you can get past his ranting and raving, he's right. We fans go off of the deep end if our team has a poor performance or a good performance. We DON'T understand football the way Vermiel, Gun and Saunders do.

[Phobia]

(I'm sorry but this has nothing to do with this thread... but please help me)
I am a Fin fan and am pretty new to this site... I came on here once before around the time of the Surtain trade. I wanted to start a thread but it wont allow me. Is it because I havent been on here in a while? Can someone please help me like a moderator or something? thanks...

Nasty

It's because we don't like Fin fans. Heh heh.

It's actually because a couple Fin trolls we've had in the past. They liked to sign up for new accounts and post threads with gay porn in them. This forced us to put a waiting period on new accounts ability to create new threads and share pictures with us. The waiting period depends entirely on how productive to the community you prove to be...

[Phobia]

Nasty, it looks like you've been promoted by our system. You should be able to start a thread now.

[way2kalm]

I can analyze all my game film and see things better than Gunther and Grunhard...especially the game film on the TC website. What I see is clearly disturbing.

What makes you think that you can things "better" than the coaching staff. Grunhard, I can believe, but the Chiefs coaching staff... ROFL

I believe you are BSing us. Thats like saying you can stand outside of my house, look in my windows, and claim you can see things better than me, the person standing inside the house.

Trust me, the coaching staff has seen things at angles that you can't even imagine. I'm sure Gun is doing everything possible to get this defense fixed. But remember, he's only the coach, he can't actually go out and play the game.

[shakesthecat]

Oh no.

Someone got a pair of needle nose pliars way2 can borrow to retrieve that hook?

[KCTitus]

What makes you think that you can things "better" than the coaching staff. Grunhard, I can believe, but the Chiefs coaching staff... ROFL

I believe you are BSing us. Thats like saying you can stand outside of my house, look in my windows, and claim you can see things better than me, the person standing inside the house.

Trust me, the coaching staff has seen things at angles that you can't even imagine. I'm sure Gun is doing everything possible to get this defense fixed. But remember, he's only the coach, he can't actually go out and play the game.

You probably need to watch more football. If you watch enough football on TV, you can see things that the average fan cant. You, obviously, cannot see the things I can because I watch a lot of football.

[Stinger]

The uninformed or uneducated fan tends to go off the deep end after one preseason game ...... I'm not saying all of the callers are morons. But c'mon, have you listened to some of these people?

heh ... just read a game thread on this board ROFL .

For the record I am not calling people on this board morons (neither is Lzen I assume), it just when you are passionate, or in some instances of this BB members who are alcohol inhanced, about something i.e. the Chiefs sometimes emotions get in the way of what you are trying to say or think.

[Nasty]

It's because we don't like Fin fans. Heh heh.

It's actually because a couple Fin trolls we've had in the past. They liked to sign up for new accounts and post threads with gay porn in them. This forced us to put a waiting period on new accounts ability to create new threads and share pictures with us. The waiting period depends entirely on how productive to the community you prove to be...

Well how can I make a thread? because I really wanna start a discussion about your team but it wont let me... is there like a setting that a moderater can change to let me start posting a thread??

Nasty

[ROYC75]

You probably need to watch more football. If you watch enough football on TV, you can see things that the average fan cant. You, obviously, cannot see the things I can because I watch a lot of football.

:rolleyes:

[dirk digler]

You probably need to watch more football. If you watch enough football on TV, you can see things that the average fan cant. You, obviously, cannot see the things I can because I watch a lot of football.

I don't why anyone would question your football knowledge and your player evaulations Carl? They must be stupid. :p

[ChiTown]

You probably need to watch more football. If you watch enough football on TV, you can see things that the average fan cant. You, obviously, cannot see the things I can because I watch a lot of football.


ROFL

You little button pusher....

[Otter]

You probably need to watch more football. If you watch enough football on TV, you can see things that the average fan cant. You, obviously, cannot see the things I can because I watch a lot of football.

Even with the yellow sunglasses Gunther is no match for high-definition or instant replay.

[KCTitus]

:rolleyes:

Sounds stupid doesnt it...must be embarrassing reading it knowing who originally penned it.

[KCTitus]

I don't why anyone would question your football knowledge and your player evaulations Carl? They must be stupid. :p

Obviously...if everyone would just listen to my evaluations and breakdowns, this team would win more playoff games.

[BigRedChief]

Obviously...if everyone would just listen to my evaluations and breakdowns, this team would win more playoff games.
No playoff wins in 12 years. We can't really agrue against that:banghead:?

[Mr. Laz]

Grunhart is going off the deep end. Ripping KC fans a new one.

King Carl,Rufus,KcTitmouse and parker have just fallen in love with grunthard.

[ROYC75]

Sounds stupid doesnt it...must be embarrassing reading it knowing who originally penned it.


Sounds really stupid from your end since you were the one who added to the context of the comments. ROFL

[way2kalm]

You probably need to watch more football. If you watch enough football on TV, you can see things that the average fan cant. You, obviously, cannot see the things I can because I watch a lot of football.

I consider myself more than an average fan. I not only watch football, I've actually PLAYED football. And I'm not talking about just weekend flag football with the fellas, I'm talking actual organized college football. I've had to sit in film sessions with actual coaches who, for the most part, knew what they were talking about. I can break down film just as quick as the next guy.

I never played pro football, but I'll recognize a play developing faster than you could imagine. Do some questioning before you start making assumptions.

And like I said earlier, it's not about me, it's about the coaches. You're acting as if you know more than the Chiefs coaches, not me. I'm not the one you have to know more than.

[KCTitus]

Sounds really stupid from your end since you were the one who added to the context of the comments. ROFL

Silly Roy. Dont get dizzy now.

[KCTitus]

And like I said earlier, it's not about me, it's about the coaches. You're acting as if you know more than the Chiefs coaches, not me. I'm not the one you have to know more than.

The team hasnt won a SB in 36 years and a playoff game since 93...I predicted this would happen. Obviously I know what Im talking about.

[way2kalm]

The team hasnt won a SB in 36 years and a playoff game since 93...I predicted this would happen. Obviously I know what Im talking about.

Well, I suggest you take up coaching in the NFL instead of arm chairing it every weekend. Hey, I can take a playstation team to the superbowl just as well as you can, but that doesn't qualify me as an NFL head coach.

You know the old saying, put up or shut up...

I so combative :p

[dirk digler]

Obviously...if everyone would just listen to my evaluations and breakdowns, this team would win more playoff games.

I agree CP. Keep up the good work. :thumb:

[ROYC75]

Silly Roy. Dont get dizzy now.


Why silly Greg, you continue to twist and turn any comments to your own likens..... Forever have and forever will.

You are consistent. :)

[KCTitus]

Well, I suggest you take up coaching in the NFL instead of arm chairing it every weekend. Hey, I can take a playstation team to the superbowl just as well as you can, but that doesn't qualify me as an NFL head coach.

You know the old saying, put up or shut up...

I so combative :p

I should...I'm just that good. I think I began to realize my talent to identify good NFL talent when Carl drafted Blackledge. I knew that was a disaster from the moment it happend. I was right, as ususal.

[TEX]

Bla...bla..bla... Same old "coaches know more" argument. That certainly is true from an X's and O's point of view, but I know enough to know when someons $UCKS ASS like our whole LB core last year, our DL this year,TrINT year 1, and many RBBC issues of the past. :shake:

[KCTitus]

You are consistent. :)

Yeah, you got that part right. Stand up and be proud, Roy, dont hide from it.

[dirk digler]

I should...I'm just that good. I think I began to realize my talent to identify good NFL talent when Carl drafted Blackledge. I knew that was a disaster from the moment it happend. I was right, as ususal.


I think you have snapped, why are referring to yourself in 3rd person?

[KCTitus]

Bla...bla..bla... Same old "coaches know more" argument. That certainly is true from an X's and O's point of view, but I know enough to know when someons $UCKS ASS like our whole LB core last year, our DL this year,TrINT year 1, and many RBBC issues of the past. :shake:

Yeah, Im telling you...there's only a few of us around.

[KCTitus]

I think you have snapped, why are referring to yourself in 3rd person?

What's good for Bob Dole...

[Calcountry]

He's pissed. But, you know what? That crap pisses me off too. I hate it when people try and "big time" other people. It's horseshit.

All this "I know more than you because I played the game" nonsense is patronizing.I never played anything more than flag football in the 4rth grade and I know more than him.

[dirk digler]

What's good for Bob Dole...

Good point, carry on.

[Calcountry]

Although he could be more polite, it's pretty much right. I mean, come on. The tards calling his show have trouble pronouncing the players' names sometimes, let alone understanding the nuts and bolts.

It's not like fans are incapable of understanding the game, but it's hard to argue that someone who played professionally for 12 or 13 years doesn't know more about it than you.

I mean, I know a thing or two about cars, but if I thought one thing was wrong with mine and a mechanic of 13+ years told me it was something else... I'd be inclined to lend more weight to his opinion.I know a few things about animal behavior and animal nutrition, but every time someone asks me a STUPID question, I don't lose it like he did, otherwise I would be out of business.

[ROYC75]

Yeah, you got that part right. Stand up and be proud, Roy, dont hide from it.
Oh, no doubt, all 6'4, 285 # of me standing straight and firm. Still standing against your endless witch hunt of comments that were never made the way you continue to spin it..... 1 year later.

Have a good day ,Greg.:D

[KCTitus]

Oh, no doubt, all 6'4, 285 # of me standing straight and firm. Still standing against your endless witch hunt of comments that were never made the way you continue to spin it..... 1 year later.

Hey, you've even got the Proctor 'tough guy' thing going to...impressive.

Yeah, it that nerve...I air dried that shit.

[way2kalm]

I should...I'm just that good. I think I began to realize my talent to identify good NFL talent when Carl drafted Blackledge. I knew that was a disaster from the moment it happend. I was right, as ususal.

Uh..Carl didn't draft Blackledge. Todd Blackledge was drafted in 1983, he came out of that great quaterback class of Elway, Marino, and Kelly. Carl didn't get here until 1989.

But you're just messing with me right...I hope you are just pulling my chain...as a matter of fact, you are just pulling my chain. GOT ME AGAIN ROFL

Damn, I just keep falling for it! :banghead:

[KCTitus]

But you're just messing with me right...I hope you are just pulling my chain...as a matter of fact, you are just pulling my chain. GOT ME AGAIN ROFL

Damn, I just keep falling for it! :banghead:

:D

[ROYC75]

Hey, you've even got the Proctor 'tough guy' thing going to...impressive.

Yeah, it that nerve...I air dried that shit.

Obiviously I haven't a clue as to your Proctor comments, I never got involved in Johnny's problems with the BB and or members. It was of no concern to me and stayed away from it.

FWIW, it's time to drop this petty BS . Time to let it go, you can't prove what wasn't said, I can't prove what was said.

We should hook up during the Redskins game and have a beer, laugh about it, which I have done alot of during the last year over all of this nonsense.

You game ?

[Brock]

Oh, no doubt, all 6'4, 285 # of me standing straight and firm.

TMI.

[ROYC75]

Uh..Carl didn't draft Blackledge. Todd Blackledge was drafted in 1983, he came out of that great quaterback class of Elway, Marino, and Kelly. Carl didn't get here until 1989.

But you're just messing with me right...I hope you are just pulling my chain...as a matter of fact, you are just pulling my chain. GOT ME AGAIN ROFL

Damn, I just keep falling for it! :banghead:

Yep, for the most part, Greg is just a practical joker. But now and then he does get on a kick to prove things ....

Right Greg.

[ROYC75]

TMI.

Sorry Brock......... haven't clue as to what TMI stands for on this BB.

[Lzen]

I should...I'm just that good. I think I began to realize my talent to identify good NFL talent when Carl drafted Blackledge. I knew that was a disaster from the moment it happend. I was right, as ususal.

ROFL I knew it was only a matter of time until you pulled that one out of the bag. This is very entertaining. :thumb:

[KCTitus]

FWIW, it's time to drop this petty BS . Time to let it go, you can't prove what wasn't said, I can't prove what was said.

You're right...it is petty, it's also funny

http://67.18.68.69/BB/showthread.php?p=2161072

You seem to forget easily, why ?

Many times I have said you have every right to believe what you want and to value your opinion. Like mine, it may not make either one of us right. You side with the coaches on many decisions, accept things as face value, many times I do not, wanting more or better.

Laugh, joke around, all you want, doesn't matter, it was not me who brought the name of Rich Scanlon into this discussion .

[chefsos]

Sorry Brock......... haven't clue as to what TMI stands for on this BB.
Too.
Much.
Information.

[ROYC75]

You're right...it is petty, it's also funny

http://67.18.68.69/BB/showthread.php?p=2161072

Ok, please explain where that and the original comments from you as talent scounts intersect ?

There are times you have questioned the coaches about a player. We all have at sometime or another. As for football fanatics, we crave to have the best players on the field and are easily frustrated with players from time to time.

Again........ It's time to end it, I can easily, can you. Are you up to a beer some day ? Will you be at the Skin's game ? I don't think we have ever met. Matter of fact, I wish that Hits. can make it as well.

[go bo]

How informed or educated does a fan need to be in order to understand the Chiefs haven't won the SB in 36 years or a postseason game since 93?well, a little graduate school would help...

or season tickets, yeah that's it, season ticket holders...

but what's their excuse for not noticing that we haven't won the sb in 36 years (hell, i have a son older than that) or a play-off game since '93?

that's what i wanna know... :p :p :p

[go bo]

Most of them are idiots. I agree. One time I even got a little lit and called to make a fool of myself. I haven't called back since. I figured I'd spare the KC airwaves of my own brand of idiocy.but, but...

we like your idiocy... :D :D :D

[go bo]

I consider myself more than an average fan. I not only watch football, I've actually PLAYED football. . .hmmmmmm...

why does this sound familiar?

where is roy?

didn't zach tell roy something like this?

[BigRedChief]

<HR SIZE=1>Originally Posted by way2kalm
I consider myself more than an average fan. I not only watch football, I've actually PLAYED football. . . <HR SIZE=1>

I'm better than the average fan because I played football. I've coached football. According to King Carl I'm a "Real" chiefs fan so what do I get to call myself. Rainman, Do we need a poll?

[Halfcan]

The fans deserve to be ripped, all we do is sell out Arrowhead and line the Hunts pockets with millions year after year for a below average team. Grunthard needs to go to a Royals game and see what happens when the "Idiot fans" finally say enough is enough.

[KCTitus]

The fans deserve to be ripped, all we do is sell out Arrowhead and line the Hunts pockets with millions year after year for a below average team. Grunthard needs to go to a Royals game and see what happens when the "Idiot fans" finally say enough is enough.

Simply genious (chiefsplanet spelling).

[bobbything]

Grunthard needs to go to a Royals game and see what happens when the "Idiot fans" finally say enough is enough.
He already blamed the fans for the Kings demise in KC. He said that the Royals are next. He basically was saying that zero fan support results in the team moving, or shutting down altogether. Problem is that its difficult to support a team that doesn't win. Impossible, rather.

So, he blames the fans. It's our fault that suck-ass teams suck ass.

[KCTitus]

He already blamed the fans for the Kings demise in KC. He said that the Royals are next. He basically was saying that zero fan support results in the team moving, or shutting down altogether. Problem is that its difficult to support a team that doesn't win. Impossible, rather.

And that's where he's wrong. Unlike the NFL, the Royals cannot financially compete in that league.

[bobbything]

And that's where he's wrong. Unlike the NFL, the Royals cannot financially compete in that league.
He's wrong in all aspects. With regards to the Royals, they're not going to put together consistent winning teams until baseball, itself, is fixed. So, zero fan support is a result of a broken product, in this case, Major League Baseball. This isn't the fans' fault.

If the Chiefs continue to put together losing seasons, with a solid profit sharing plan in place, then that will result in less fan support because they should be able compete. Again, no fault of the fans.

Conversely, if either of these teams were to put together consistent winning seasons and there was still zero fan support, then that's where the fans can be blamed. But, that'll never happen. Grunhart is completely ignoring the quality of the on-field product that is given to the city. He seems to think we should simply be happy with what is given to us and provide blind support regardless of its quality. I don't.

[KCTitus]

Grunhart is completely ignoring the quality of the on-field product that is given to the city. He seems to think we should simply be happy with what is given to us and provide blind support regardless of its quality. I don't.


Nonsense. No one, especially Grunhard (with a 'd'), is telling anyone to be happy with failures of this club. He's speaking to a level of fanaticism that goes "over the top" on a preseason football game. When rhetoric and hyperbole reaches this level, it should be called what it is stupidity.

It's the fact that the NFL is the largest sport in the US right now and KC is benefitting from that. If it werent this big, attendance would have dwindled at arrowhead by now.

[stevieray]

Nonsense. No one, especially Grunhard (with a 'd'), is telling anyone to be happy with failures of this club. He's speaking to a level of fanaticism that goes "over the top" on a preseason football game. When rhetoric and hyperbole reaches this level, it should be called what it is stupidity.



That's what I got from it...he's telling people to chill out.

[bobbything]

Nonsense. No one, especially Grunhard (with a 'd'), is telling anyone to be happy with failures of this club. He's speaking to a level of fanaticism that goes "over the top" on a preseason football game. When rhetoric and hyperbole reaches this level, it should be called what it is stupidity.
Maybe you weren't listening to the whole tantrum he was throwing. He went, as far back, as the Kansas City Kings, and implied that the team moved because of the lack of fan support. Completely ignoring the on-court product as the result of no fan support. By doing so, he's suggesting that the fans are to blame. And if the fans are the reason for the move, then the only possible option is to support a crappy team.

He obviously wasn't speaking simply to those who go "over the top" on a preseason game because he referenced the KC Kings and their lack of fan support, which speaks to the entire KC fan base. He was trying to make a direct comparison between the reaction to Friday's game and the departure of the Kings, and their lack of fan support. Which is absurd.

[stevieray]

Maybe you weren't listening to the whole tantrum he was throwing. He went, as far back, as the Kansas City Kings, and implied that the team moved because of the lack of fan support. Completely ignoring the on-court product as the result of no fan support. By doing so, he's suggesting that the fans are to blame. And if the fans are the reason for the move, then the only possible option is to support a crappy team.

He obviously wasn't speaking simply to those who go "over the top" on a preseason game because he referenced the KC Kings and their lack of fan support, which speaks to the entire KC fan base. He was trying to make a direct comparison between the reaction to Friday's game and the departure of the Kings, and their lack of fan support. Which is absurd.


i disagree, IMO, he was saying that he can understand why teams left when fans freak out all the time.

[bobbything]

i disagree, IMO, he was saying that he can understand why teams left when fans freak out all the time.
Hmm. Well, that's not really how I took it. I heard him say "chill out" a million times, which I'm fine with, but his comparisions to the Kings and Royals seemed like pot shots at the fans, to me.

[KCTitus]

Maybe you weren't listening to the whole tantrum he was throwing. He went, as far back, as the Kansas City Kings, and implied that the team moved because of the lack of fan support. Completely ignoring the on-court product as the result of no fan support. By doing so, he's suggesting that the fans are to blame. And if the fans are the reason for the move, then the only possible option is to support a crappy team.

He obviously wasn't speaking simply to those who go "over the top" on a preseason game because he referenced the KC Kings and their lack of fan support, which speaks to the entire KC fan base. He was trying to make a direct comparison between the reaction to Friday's game and the departure of the Kings, and their lack of fan support. Which is absurd.

I didnt hear any of it. Im not a local...

MLB and NBA are quite different--it's not a valid comparison. The NFL is a wholly different situation because of the level of the popularity it has today. It's not a stretch to understand that because of the level of popularity of the sport that some fans get a little to fanatical.

[bobbything]

MLB and NBA are quite different--it's not a valid comparison.
Oh I agree, but he was making the comparison. And, right or wrong when doing so, the way I took it, was that our "over the top" reactions will lead, and have lead, to giving up on a team.

[KCTitus]

Oh I agree, but he was making the comparison. And, right or wrong when doing so, the way I took it, was that our "over the top" reactions will lead, and have lead, to giving up on a team.

And we agree on that point. :thumb: