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Megbert
08-17-2005, 10:37 AM
People that mispronounce words on purpose. I am not talking adding an 'r' to wash or regional dialects. I am talking in particular about 2 syllable words such as Button, Mountain, Rotten, where they speaker changes them to Butt-in, Mount-in and Rott-in. Couple of the people I work talk like this. One in particular talks like this to our clients. She has gone so far as to mispronounce a clients name - "Newton" for her is "Newt-in". Anyone know why or where this started?

Goapics1
08-17-2005, 10:38 AM
Anyone know why or where this started?
Kentucky.

Hammock Parties
08-17-2005, 10:39 AM
Warshers piss me off.

Lzen
08-17-2005, 11:21 AM
Psshhh. You haven't seen nuthin'. :) My boss mispronounces several words. Here are some examples

rinse - wrench
Xenon - Xeon (okay, that is minor but it is very annoying)
toluene - tolulene (it's not gasoline, buddy)
squash - squarch

Dartgod
08-17-2005, 11:29 AM
Ask - Axe? :hmmm:

Braincase
08-17-2005, 11:32 AM
Nuke ya ler.

Drives me up the freakin' wall every time.

bkkcoh
08-17-2005, 11:32 AM
It seems as if people aren't taught, in school, proper language skills and it is acceptible to butcher the english language.

It really irritates me to see this happen, but I am old school in that regard. :banghead:

phisherman
08-17-2005, 11:36 AM
i knew multiple guys in college that said either supposemly or supposebly...

every time i heard it i wanted to scream, "it's supposedly, you dumba**!"

bp

Cormac
08-17-2005, 11:38 AM
Kentucky.

:cuss:

Although, lots of people warsh in Kentucky (or maybe not enough do :hmmm: )

ROYC75
08-17-2005, 11:41 AM
People that mispronounce words on purpose. I am not talking adding an 'r' to wash or regional dialects. I am talking in particular about 2 syllable words such as Button, Mountain, Rotten, where they speaker changes them to Butt-in, Mount-in and Rott-in. Couple of the people I work talk like this. One in particular talks like this to our clients. She has gone so far as to mispronounce a clients name - "Newton" for her is "Newt-in". Anyone know why or where this started?


Me thinks your avi says it all ........ Boring day got nuthin' to do.

Saulbadguy
08-17-2005, 11:42 AM
Its Kansas talk too. I know people who say Warshburn, Warshington, Warsh the winders.

It was funny when the tsunamis were coming through. This one guy kept saying "TUH-SOO-NAMI"

vailpass
08-17-2005, 11:47 AM
People who use made-up words sound stupid irregardless of their home state.

Edit: Get it? IRREGARDLESS isn't a word.

Megbert
08-17-2005, 11:51 AM
Me thinks your avi says it all ........ Boring day got nuthin' to do.

It's a song qoute. By the band in my avatar.

plbrdude
08-17-2005, 11:52 AM
Kentucky.


didn't start there. my wife is from kentucky and i have found out that most two syllable words are reduced to one. and most one syllable words are increased to two.

Simplex3
08-17-2005, 11:54 AM
Germy instead of Jeremy.
Probly instead of probably.

F**king lazy people.

Area 51
08-17-2005, 12:43 PM
Strength, the NEW PRONOUNCIATION drives me over the edge.

Strenth - jeez

Braincase
08-17-2005, 12:50 PM
People who use made-up words sound stupid irregardless of their home state.

Edit: Get it? IRREGARDLESS isn't a word.

Prolly happens alot where you live. :p

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
08-17-2005, 01:13 PM
I hate it when people say truf instead of truth

Cormac
08-17-2005, 01:15 PM
People who use made-up words sound stupid irregardless of their home state.

Edit: Get it? IRREGARDLESS isn't a word.

Don't get me started:

Neither is persistency, resiliency, cohesiveness (cohesion), aggressiveness etc. etc. etc. etc. :shake:

Megbert
08-17-2005, 01:22 PM
Don't get me started:

Neither is persistency, resiliency, cohesiveness (cohesion), aggressiveness etc. etc. etc. etc. :shake:

Do you mean they aren't 'proper' words like 'ain't'? I looked them up on dictionary.com and all came up.

Not starting anything, just asking.

cadmonkey
08-17-2005, 01:24 PM
Masonary instead of Masonry

Rain Man
08-17-2005, 01:25 PM
I had a client once who used "axe" instead of "ask."

It was very stressful for me when we were going over a survey design, and he kept saying, "We should axe this question."

vailpass
08-17-2005, 01:25 PM
Prolly happens alot where you live. :p

ROFL
Actually I live in Arizona. There is a whole different kind of english language assasination going on here, comprende?

milkman
08-17-2005, 01:28 PM
Do you mean they aren't 'proper' words like 'ain't'? I looked them up on dictionary.com and all came up.

Not starting anything, just asking.

I think that is what he means, although I'm pretty sure that "aggressiveness" is a proper word.

Rain Man
08-17-2005, 01:29 PM
Ask - Axe? :hmmm:

Beat me to it.


My dad has good pronunciation on 99.9 percent of what he says, but I've never heard anyone else with his pronunciation of oxygen. He calls it ok-shi-gun.

Area 51
08-17-2005, 01:31 PM
Beat me to it.


My dad has good pronunciation on 99.9 percent of what he says, but I've never heard anyone else with his pronunciation of oxygen. He calls it ok-shi-gun.

Can he say Nuclear or is it nucier?

Can he say aluminum or is it allumium?

If he gets those two right you are definately not Jimmy Carters kin!!!

Megbert
08-17-2005, 01:32 PM
I was at a 'family reunion' and my uncle kept saying something like "that ol' toada keeps on going" I was like WTF is a "Toada" then I was walking around and saw an older Toyota pickup and thats when I realized that "Toad-a" = Toyota.

Rain Man
08-17-2005, 01:34 PM
Can he say Nuclear or is it nucier?

Can he say aluminum or is it allumium?

If he gets those two right you are definately not Jimmy Carters kin!!!


Nope. Not my dad. My dad doesn't like humanitarians.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
08-17-2005, 01:35 PM
I think that is what he means, although I'm pretty sure that "aggressiveness" is a proper word.
I think aggression would be the proper word here

Lzen
08-17-2005, 01:39 PM
i knew multiple guys in college that said either supposemly or supposebly...

every time i heard it i wanted to scream, "it's supposedly, you dumba**!"

bp

Where did you go to college?
:hmmm:

jcroft
08-17-2005, 01:42 PM
People that mispronounce words on purpose. I am not talking adding an 'r' to wash or regional dialects. I am talking in particular about 2 syllable words such as Button, Mountain, Rotten, where they speaker changes them to Butt-in, Mount-in and Rott-in. Couple of the people I work talk like this. One in particular talks like this to our clients. She has gone so far as to mispronounce a clients name - "Newton" for her is "Newt-in". Anyone know why or where this started?

Sorry for asking the dumb question, but are you basically referring to people not pronouncing both t's? I think I know what you are talking about, but your phonetics don't quite get the message across.

Do you mean:

But-tin vs. But-in?
Rot-tin vs. Rot-in?

If so, you are basically referring to people not pronuncing both of the consecutive t's. While this maybe be annoying to those who do, it's VERY common, to be point in which I'd hardy consider it an error. Certainly more people say "but-in" than "but-ton". Yes, it's wrong, but it's the norm.

And if that is what you're referring to, then "mountain" and "newton" don't apply. The correct pronunciation of "newton" IS "newt-in," isn't it? If not, what is it? "New-TON?" Perhaps, but that's only a difference of syllabic emphasis. "Newt-tin" is certainly not correct, because there's only one "t" in "newton." Same thing applies to "mountain," which I say as "mount-in," and would argue is correct.

Perhaps I'm just misunderstanding your phonetics, but I don't think you can expect everyone to pronounce two consecutive t's in the middle of a word, and I REALLY don't think you can expect people to put two t's in a word that doesn't have two t's.

milkman
08-17-2005, 01:43 PM
I think aggression would be the proper word here

When you look up the word "aggressive", among the words listed as derivitives is "aggressiveness".

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=Aggressive&x=17&y=13http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=Aggressive&x=17&y=13

Cormac
08-17-2005, 02:20 PM
Do you mean they aren't 'proper' words like 'ain't'? I looked them up on dictionary.com and all came up.

Not starting anything, just asking.

persistence/resilience are the correct forms....but the others are taking over :)

I always thought aggressiveness etc. was not a 'real' word....but I just looked it up on OED and it came up. I always thought it was redundant.

I'll be quiet now.....





:p

Prince22
08-17-2005, 02:49 PM
Kentucky.

Hey now! You should do some reserch on dat. I think it came from furder down south. Maybe Alabama or New Orlens. :harumph:

Megbert
08-17-2005, 03:03 PM
Sorry for asking the dumb question, but are you basically referring to people not pronouncing both t's? I think I know what you are talking about, but your phonetics don't quite get the message across.

Do you mean:

But-tin vs. But-in?
Rot-tin vs. Rot-in?

If so, you are basically referring to people not pronuncing both of the consecutive t's. While this maybe be annoying to those who do, it's VERY common, to be point in which I'd hardy consider it an error. Certainly more people say "but-in" than "but-ton". Yes, it's wrong, but it's the norm.

And if that is what you're referring to, then "mountain" and "newton" don't apply. The correct pronunciation of "newton" IS "newt-in," isn't it? If not, what is it? "New-TON?" Perhaps, but that's only a difference of syllabic emphasis. "Newt-tin" is certainly not correct, because there's only one "t" in "newton." Same thing applies to "mountain," which I say as "mount-in," and would argue is correct.

Perhaps I'm just misunderstanding your phonetics, but I don't think you can expect everyone to pronounce two consecutive t's in the middle of a word, and I REALLY don't think you can expect people to put two t's in a word that doesn't have two t's.

According to Dictionary.com moun' tain with emphasis on the first syllable and the "t" going with the second syllable. The girl I am referring to pronounces it like this "Mount(pause)N" Butt(pause)N Newt(pause)N. I hope this clarifies what I mean. I would pronounce Newton as New tin or New Ton, not Newt(pause)N like the girl I am referring too.

chefsos
08-17-2005, 03:34 PM
I knew a guy who would pronounce doughnut as do-nit.
Now, I catch myself saying it that way. I guess the only way to cleanse myself of this abomination is to Just Say No.

I'm going to miss Dunkin' Donit's coffee.

Zebedee DuBois
08-17-2005, 04:14 PM
toluene - tolulene (it's not gasoline, buddy)


Oohhh. I've heard that one often and it grates my nerves.

Ultra Peanut
08-17-2005, 07:58 PM
According to Dictionary.com moun' tain with emphasis on the first syllable and the "t" going with the second syllable. The girl I am referring to pronounces it like this "Mount(pause)N" Butt(pause)N Newt(pause)N. I hope this clarifies what I mean. I would pronounce Newton as New tin or New Ton, not Newt(pause)N like the girl I am referring too.Someone's getting pissy over glottal stops?

Spare me.

Ultra Peanut
08-17-2005, 08:02 PM
persistence/resilience are the correct forms....but the others are taking over :)

I always thought aggressiveness etc. was not a 'real' word....but I just looked it up on OED and it came up. I always thought it was redundant.

I'll be quiet now.....English is an ever-changing language. If it weren't, it would be dead.

Dayze
08-17-2005, 08:27 PM
what does "NFBT" mean?

:hmmm:

milkman
08-17-2005, 08:29 PM
what does "NFBT" mean?

:hmmm:

Non FootBall Topic

Dayze
08-17-2005, 08:35 PM
Non FootBall Topic

Thanks.

Ultra Peanut
08-18-2005, 09:14 AM
By the way, the title makes you sound like Andy Rooney, racialist extraordinaire.

"And why do they call sea-sickness? I'm on a lake!"

jcroft
08-18-2005, 09:21 AM
According to Dictionary.com moun' tain with emphasis on the first syllable and the "t" going with the second syllable. The girl I am referring to pronounces it like this "Mount(pause)N" Butt(pause)N Newt(pause)N. I hope this clarifies what I mean. I would pronounce Newton as New tin or New Ton, not Newt(pause)N like the girl I am referring too.

Ahh, that makes more sense. Yes, the girl you are referring to is weird (although I'm not sure you can go so far as to call her "wrong"). :)

Rain Man
08-18-2005, 09:24 AM
Oohhh. I've heard that one often and it grates my nerves.

I want to go to your parties.

StcChief
08-18-2005, 11:13 AM
MissorA

redfan
08-18-2005, 11:39 AM
You guys forgot some of the all-timers:

Feb-oo-arry
lye-berry
am-buh-lamps <----i jus' luvs datt'n