80's Alt-Pop, New Wavish Revival...

[jAZ]

I've become a pretty big fan of the latest alternative music trend in the last year or so... Maybe it's because of my age (32) but I like the latest sound going around right now.

There seems to be a 80's, garage, Euro, pop sound common among all of these bands.

The Bravery
Hot Hot Heat
The Killers (They seemed to be the first in this trend)
Modest Mouse

Am I missing anyone?

Pretty cool time in modern music.

[tk13]

Franz Ferdinand, I guess they qualify?...

[Donger]

I can't even remember the last music that I bought. I think it was Tool's Aenima, but I may be mistaken. If what you say is correct (which I doubt :-), I may have to take a peek at the ones you list.

Any Bauhaus clones?

[Fat Elvis]

Snow Patrol?

[|Zach|]

I enver thought of these groups the way you just framed them but enjoy their work for the most part.

[Donger]

I enver thought of these groups the way you just framed them but enjoy their work for the most part.

Well, how old were you in the mid-1980s?

[Fat Elvis]

I can't even remember the last music that I bought. I think it was Tool's Aenima, but I may be mistaken. If what you say is correct (which I doubt :-), I may have to take a peek at the ones you list.

Any Bauhaus clones?


Ah, the days of putting the twelve inch single of
Bela Lugosi's Dead on repeat (linear tracking turntable, how 80's is that?) and smoking dope all day long....

[jAZ]

Any Bauhaus clones?
Closer to Joy Division (and should have been on my first list), but not that far from Bauhaus is Interpol.

[|Zach|]

Well, how old were you in the mid-1980s?
Born in 1983. Even though I am pretty young I have taken in my share of music from the time period.

[Donger]

Ah, the days of putting the twelve inch single of
Bela Lugosi's Dead on repeat (linear tracking turntable, how 80's is that?) and smoking dope all day long....

Sans the dope, yep, absolutely.

[jAZ]

Also, I forgot The Strokes.

They were pretty far ahead of this curve... Back in the summer of 2003.

[Donger]

Closer to Joy Division (and should have been on my first list), but not that far from Bauhaus is Interpol.

No sh*t? Well then, I may have to take a look. Joy Division was fantastic, and then turned into, well, not-Joy Division.

[|Zach|]

Also, I forgot The Strokes.

They were pretty far ahead of this curve... Back in the summer of 2003.
The Strokes opened a lot of doors for a lot of groups.

Spent any time with the Yeah Yeah Yeahs?

[Donger]

Born in 1983. Even though I am pretty young I have taken in my share of music from the time period.

Yes, but you didn't grow up with it, hence the need for framing.

[jAZ]

The Strokes opened a lot of doors for a lot of groups.

Spent any time with the Yeah Yeah Yeahs?
Did they have a song on the radio? They sound familiar... can't think of anything off the top of my head though.

[the Talking Can]

The Strokes opened a lot of doors for a lot of groups.

Spent any time with the Yeah Yeah Yeahs?

I like the Yeah Yeah Yeah's better than any group mention in this thread...though I don't think of them as reviving 80's pop...

[MOhillbilly]

I've become a pretty big fan of the latest alternative music trend in the last year or so... Maybe it's because of my age (32) but I like the latest sound going around right now.

There seems to be a 80's, garage, Euro, pop sound common among all of these bands.

The Bravery
Hot Hot Heat
The Killers (They seemed to be the first in this trend)
Modest Mouse

Am I missing anyone?

Pretty cool time in modern music.

ya dude its called 'EMO' and its just as happy as the stuff we called f@g music in 85'.
Tears for Fears anyone?

[jAZ]

ya dude its called 'EMO' and its just as happy as the stuff we called f@g music in 85'.
Tears for Fears anyone?
I'm so glad you stopped by to share you deeply inciteful thoughts on this thread. Make sure that you take care on your way out. See you again another time... I'm sure.

[Megbert]

Moving Units, Interpol, The Faint, possibly The Hives, Ima Robot.

Not 80's New Wave revival but check out "The New Pornographers" - Twin Cinema - really, really good.

[penguinz]

The Cure are still around and much of their music still has the 80's sound to it. Louis XIV also some 80's sound to much of their stuff.

[MOhillbilly]

I'm so glad you stopped by to share you deeply inciteful thoughts on this thread. Make sure that you take care on your way out. See you again another time... I'm sure.


It figures youre EMO.

[Bob Dole]

Depeche Mode is going on tour soon (or already has...)

[|Zach|]

I like the Yeah Yeah Yeah's better than any group mention in this thread...though I don't think of them as reviving 80's pop...I agree, they popped in my head when the conversation moved to the Strokes and Interpols of the world.

[|Zach|]

I didn't take to the Killers at first but I these days I am pretty impressed with their range. Alot of good stuf coming out of them.

[Ebolapox]

I dig the killers--that's about it from that (mostly lame) list

-EB-

[ChiefFripp]

The Cure are still around and much of their music still has the 80's sound to it. Louis XIV also some 80's sound to much of their stuff.


Robert has never had a decent followup to Disintegration in my opinion. Mixed up was ok but it was mostly remixes, Wish was way too poppy(even for The Cure), Wild Mood Swings was just sub-par all around, Bloodflowers was just a failed revival of their Disintegration album, and by the time they released their self-titled album I have givin up on them.

I think he needs to just pack it in, 40 year old men in makeup playing greatest hits tours every three years or so should be left to Kiss and other cheese bands like that. robert just looks like a sad, fat old clown.

[Ultra Peanut]

The term "Emo" has become so watered down by this point that some people are probably calling Nelly and Tim McGraw emo.

"I've been hopin' you're mopin' around the street again; I've been trippin' from sippin' that drippin' dirty water tap; I've been pokin' a voodoo doll that you do not know I made, for you, of you, let's see what needles do."

Hot Hot Heat and the Snow Patrol rank highly on my personal "Hey, that's good" list. I suppose Franz Ferdinand and Modest Mouse could be lumped in, too, and I rather enjoy them, as well. The Bravery and the Killers aren't bad, either, though my favorite song featuring the Killers is Party Ben's Somebody Rock Me, a mashup of Somebody Told Me and Rock the Casbah. And let's face it, they're just not going to be able to show up the Clash.

As for more, I've only heard two songs by She Wants Revenge, but they sound kinda... Depeche Mode-ish, actually. The Editors are sort of in a similar vein to She Wants Revenge, methinks.

Clor also definitely sounds and "feels" like their spirit is in the '80s.

Depeche Mode is going on tour soon (or already has...)I don't want to start any blasphemous rumors, but I think that God has a sick sense of humor...

[|Zach|]

The term "Emo" has become so watered down by this point that some people are probably calling Nelly and Tim McGraw emo.

Yup....genres are dead.

[Ultra Peanut]

Also, just because my mind associates them with some of the aforementioned groups more than they really belong on a list like this, De Novo Dahl is great. "All Over Town" is like cocaine in song form, but more addictive.

They do have some of the same "feel" that a lot of the good groups mentioned above have, but their music comes out a little less '80s-sounding than most of them. I won't hold that against them, though, because they rock.

[Ultra Peanut]

Yup....genres are dead.Damn skippy!

[Bob Dole]

The term "Emo" has become so watered down by this point that some people are probably calling Nelly and Tim McGraw emo.


Simon and Garfunkel are the kings of Emo.

[|Zach|]

Simon and Garfunkel are the kings of Emo.
Bob Dole your breakin my heart, your shakin my confidence daily.

[RedDread]

Surprised no one has mentioned The Darkness yet. They definitely draw a lot from 80's hair bands.

Yes they existed, regardless of how hard you want to forget them :)

[|Zach|]

On a side note I put together a little stremaing radio station some may enjoy...

http://defiant.jchost.net:12000/listen.pls

[Ultra Peanut]

Surprised no one has mentioned The Darkness yet. They definitely draw a lot from 80's hair bands.

Yes they existed, regardless of how hard you want to forget them :)Oh, there's definitely an entirely different subset more along those lines.

And thanks for sticking I Believe in a Thing Called Love in my head. No, really.

Hit the button, take him down!

[|Zach|]

Oh, there's definitely an entirely different subset more along those lines.

And thanks for sticking I Believe in a Thing Called Love in my head. No, really.

Hit the button, take him down!
On it...

http://www.army.mod.uk/img/welshguards/sniper.jpg

[Ultra Peanut]

On a side note I put together a little stremaing radio station some may enjoy...

http://defiant.jchost.net:12000/listen.plsCake's "Open Book" begins to play.

Psi: "Hey, that's not on my current playlist. What the--?"
Psi: "Oh. Zach has good taste."

[|Zach|]

Cake's "Open Book" begins to play.

Psi: "Hey, that's not on my current playlist. What the--?"
Psi: "Oh. Zach has good taste."
There is a rotation of about 92 going right now.

[JimNasium]

Am I the only one who felt that the 1980s lacked any redeeming qualities.

[|Zach|]

Am I the only one who felt that the 1980s lacked any redeeming qualities.
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~rsa/flock.of.seagulls.jpg

[NewChief]

The Decemberists kind of remind me of Morissey.

[JimNasium]

http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~rsa/flock.of.seagulls.jpg
ROFL I rest my f'ing case.

[Jenson71]

Am I the only one who felt that the 1980s lacked any redeeming qualities.

The only thing good that came out of the 80's was me.

[JimNasium]

The only thing good that came out of the 80's was me.
Let's not get carried away here. I guess I lost my virginity in the 80s. That was a good thing for me. I wonder if she remembers it as fondly as do I?

[Jenson71]

Let's not get carried away here. I guess I lost my virginity in the 80s. That was a good thing for me. I wonder if she remembers it as fondly as do I?

That would be another good reason for her to hate the 80s.

[JimNasium]

That would be another good reason for her to hate the 80s.
Yeah, I think you're probably right. It was the best 30 seconds of my life though.

[|Zach|]

Yeah, I think you're probably right. It was the best 30 seconds of my life though.
ROFL ROFL

[Ultra Peanut]

Yeah, I think you're probably right. It was the best 30 seconds of my life though."And the only thing constant was the constant reminder he'd never chaaaaange..."

[jAZ]

On a side note I put together a little stremaing radio station some may enjoy...

http://defiant.jchost.net:12000/listen.pls

What is that file type and what do I need to listen?

[|Zach|]

What is that file type and what do I need to listen?
Some form of file that has to do with streaming music. It should play and be opened with any music player you may use. Itunes, Windows Media Player, Winamp etc...

[jAZ]

Some form of file that has to do with streaming music. It should play and be opened with any music player you may use. Itunes, Windows Media Player, Winamp etc...
I guess (by way of google), that Windows Media Player doesn't support PLS files. That explains my difficulty here.

[jAZ]

I guess (by way of google), that Windows Media Player doesn't support PLS files. That explains my difficulty here.
According to this site:

http://www.wusf.usf.edu/wusf-fm/WUSF_Stream/Help_Stream_TVLk.cfm

pls: ITunes, QuickTime, Real Player, WinAmp
m3u: Real Player, Windows Media Player

Do they give you a m3u file link?

[jAZ]

Do they give you a m3u file link?
Nevermind, I have RealPlayer... It's working for me now.

[Ultra Peanut]

Nevermind, I have RealPlayer...You poor thing.

[jAZ]

Any Bauhaus clones?
These don't appear to be "clones" so much as the real thing...

http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/967677/?search_redirect=Bauhaus&tm_link=tm_header_search

[Mark M]

Yeah, I think you're probably right. It was the best 30 seconds of my life though.

Raiderhader's mom called ...

she said your watch was about 25 seconds fast.

MM
~~:spock:

[Freekofnature]

emo is emotional hardcore.

Those bands are hardly emo.

[|Zach|]

Raiderhader's mom called ...

she said your watch was about 25 seconds fast.

MM
~~:spock:
http://beltlinebigband.com/images/rimshot.jpg

[|Zach|]

emo is emotional hardcore.

Those bands are hardly emo.
eh, emo is not synamous with hardcore...

I like some emo bands there is nothing "emotionally hardcore" about them

[Mark M]

eh, emo is not synamous with hardcore...

I like some emo bands there is nothing "emotionally hardcore" about them
So emo is "emotionally hardcore?"

I know Green Day and ... well, someone else, is called that, but what does it really mean? Bands that wanna be punk but just can't pull it off?

MM
~~:hmmm:

[Freekofnature]

eh, emo is not synamous with hardcore...

I like some emo bands there is nothing "emotionally hardcore" about them
Then's it not really emo then.

http://altmusic.about.com/od/emo/
http://www.silver-dragon-records.com/history_of_emo.htm

"Emo" is not short for "Emotional." "Emo" does not mean Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional, despite what MTV has lead you to believe in the last few years. "Emo" is not sidebangs, tight pants, and male vocalists who sing like little girls about their failed relationships. "Emo" is not the use of diluted, meaningless metaphors and similes such as "My arms are like pinecones," and most definitely is not the rampant use of words such as "autumn," "heart," "knife," "bleeding," "leaves," and "razorblade."


People nowadays will call almost anything emo these days.

I was listening to Everybody hurts by REM and one of my neighbor's kids in car called it emo.

[|Zach|]

So emo is "emotionally hardcore?"

I know Green Day and ... well, someone else, is called that, but what does it really mean? Bands that wanna be punk but just can't pull it off?

MM
~~:hmmm:
I am a rough person to ask. It is my hypothesis that genres are dead. Too many things overlap...music can't be put into boxes as easily anymore.

Emo has transformed a lot. I think of Emo's poster child as Deah Cab For Cutie. Who I love...

Saves The Day comes to minds as does...

Bright Eyes
Sunny Day Real Estate
Get Up Kids (KC's own)

[Freekofnature]

In the early 90s there was a movement in the hardcore genre that came to be known as "Emotive Hardcore," spearheaded by Rites Of Spring. Harder-core-than-thou kids, who swore by Dischord Records a la Minor Threat, actually coined the term "Emo" as something of a put-down for the kids who really liked Rites Of Spring, Indian Summer and this new wave of "Emotive" Hardcore bands. That's right, "Emo" was once not something kids called themselves. The field exploded outwards from there - Level-Plane Records has always been the most famous Emo label. Acts like Yaphet Kotto, I Hate Myself, Saetia, Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, Funeral Diner, I Would Set Myself On Fire For You, You And I, and hosts of others came in the next decade. Most emo bands have since broken up, but there's still the occasional hold-out (again, the majority of Level-Plane Records' roster has been a procession of emo acts). Like most DIY hardcore/punk of the time, a majority found its way onto vinyl and not much else. Some people consider bands like Fugazi, and later Sunny Day Real Estate, a progression of emo, but personally, I don't quite follow that philosophy.

[|Zach|]

Then's it not really emo then.

http://altmusic.about.com/od/emo/
http://www.silver-dragon-records.com/history_of_emo.htm

"Emo" is not short for "Emotional." "Emo" does not mean Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional, despite what MTV has lead you to believe in the last few years. "Emo" is not sidebangs, tight pants, and male vocalists who sing like little girls about their failed relationships. "Emo" is not the use of diluted, meaningless metaphors and similes such as "My arms are like pinecones," and most definitely is not the rampant use of words such as "autumn," "heart," "knife," "bleeding," "leaves," and "razorblade."


People nowadays will call almost anything emo these days.

I was listening to Everybody hurts by REM and one of my neighbor's kids in car called it emo.
So you are on my boat right?

Genres are stupid and pointless. Music is too creative and different to put into little boxes for the consumption of people who don't just want to sit down and listen.

The idea that there is an absolute "Definition" of emo music is as funny as the idea of someone sitting down and defining "Rock and roll" like it is somehow empirical in nature.

[Mark M]

I think of Emo's poster child as Deah Cab For Cutie. Who I love...

Saves The Day comes to minds as does...

Bright Eyes
Sunny Day Real Estate
Get Up Kids (KC's own)

Who?

Holy crap ... I have no idea what's happening in modern music ...

It's official: I'm old.

MM
~~:sulk:

[Freekofnature]

So you are on my boat right?

Genres are stupid and pointless. Music is too creative and different to put into little boxes for the consumption of people who don't just want to sit down and listen.

The idea that there is an absolute "Definition" of emo music is as funny as the idea of someone sitting down and defining "Rock and roll" like it is somehow empirical in nature.
Kinda.

It's true nowadays that trying to classify a band into a certain genre is pretty hard and is pointless I guess.

But I would seriosuly not consider Death Cab emo.

Yes they are emotional, but they are in the soft rock and pop range.

[|Zach|]

Who?

Holy crap ... I have no idea what's happening in modern music ...

It's official: I'm old.

MM
~~:sulk:
Ha, I tell you what. Whenever you are interested ...tell me what you like band wise and I will throw together a whole slate of music that you will dig that you prob haven't heard of.

I can make up a Mark M radio blog.

[Demonpenz]

What about gwen stafani. Pretty much shows you whats going on right now can go from rap duets back to singing lead on rock songs. The people who grew up listening to the chronic along with STP is what we are getting now. It's to boring to play power chords over and over. Sometimes you want to rhyme, sometimes you want to play metal, sometimes you want some slap bass, turn tables. Throw in some horns too.

[Mark M]

In the early 90s there was a movement in the hardcore genre that came to be known as "Emotive Hardcore," spearheaded by Rites Of Spring. Harder-core-than-thou kids, who swore by Dischord Records a la Minor Threat, actually coined the term "Emo" as something of a put-down for the kids who really liked Rites Of Spring, Indian Summer and this new wave of "Emotive" Hardcore bands. That's right, "Emo" was once not something kids called themselves. The field exploded outwards from there - Level-Plane Records has always been the most famous Emo label. Acts like Yaphet Kotto, I Hate Myself, Saetia, Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, Funeral Diner, I Would Set Myself On Fire For You, You And I, and hosts of others came in the next decade. Most emo bands have since broken up, but there's still the occasional hold-out (again, the majority of Level-Plane Records' roster has been a procession of emo acts). Like most DIY hardcore/punk of the time, a majority found its way onto vinyl and not much else.

Um ... wow. Like your music, don't ya? :clap:

It may help if I had heard a single band you listed, except maybe ...

Fugazi

Ding! Ding! Ding! A band I know. Although, but your description, Fugazi really doesn't fit. They were a bit harder, but I wouldn't call them "emotive" ...

**looks up emotive on dictionary.com**

Nope.

Thanks to you and Zach for the help.

MM
~~:thumb:

[Demonpenz]

Questions comments about the ben harper, O.A.R, Dave, jack johnson explosion. I know ben harper and those guys have been around for ever. I don't really know what to think other than i guess i don't mind it as long as they don't make me hang up my stomping ass boots for birkenstock sandles

[Freekofnature]

Um ... wow. Like your music, don't ya? :clap:

It may help if I had heard a single band you listed, except maybe ...



Ding! Ding! Ding! A band I know. Although, but your description, Fugazi really doesn't fit. They were a bit harder, but I wouldn't call them "emotive" ...

**looks up emotive on dictionary.com**

Nope.

Thanks to you and Zach for the help.

MM
~~:thumb:
Emotive Hardcore.

[Mark M]

Ha, I tell you what. Whenever you are interested ...tell me what you like band wise and I will throw together a whole slate of music that you will dig that you prob haven't heard of.

I can make up a Mark M radio blog.

Did I ever tell you I named my son after you?*

That'd be cool ... although I'll be gone for a while (as you know), so it can wait for now.

I will, however, take you up on that some time in the future.

MM
~~:D

*Not really

[Freekofnature]

By the way, I do not like Emo at all.

It's just that I'm a huge music fan who will listen to almost anything.

[Demonpenz]

comments about shinedown anyone? I know some mags consistantly rip on them for being corporate rock, but i like a couple of their cd's. Speaking of not putting music in a box. What about the urge, some metal, punk rap, horns, funky shit that band had going on.

[Rausch]

What about gwen stafani. Pretty much shows you whats going on right now can go from rap duets back to singing lead on rock songs. The people who grew up listening to the chronic along with STP is what we are getting now. It's to boring to play power chords over and over. Sometimes you want to rhyme, sometimes you want to play metal, sometimes you want some slap bass, turn tables. Throw in some horns too.

They kind of make me think of a 90's incarnation of Blondie.

Mostly pop/rock, but willing to try anything once...

[|Zach|]

I respect a fan of music no doubt...

[Freekofnature]

Who gives a shit if it's corporate rock.

Listen to what you like.

[Demonpenz]

They kind of make me think of a 90's incarnation of Blondie.

Mostly pop/rock, but willing to try anything once...
ROFL that rap by blondie was gangsta thats a good comparison but don't let zach put music in a box! He will get all southwest on that ass!

[Rausch]

Emotive Hardcore.

Speaking of emotive, I couldn't be more pissed off after buying A Perfect Circle's uber-suck festival of $#it covers (save imagine) and otherwise uninspired politcal POV...

[|Zach|]

Who gives a shit if it's corporate rock.

Listen to what you like.
Bingo.

[Demonpenz]

I don't care who likes my music or not, but i see alot of these ****s that hand out music on street teams on some bands that are supposed to be awesome. I always like to hear what people think about other music.

[Demonpenz]

Bloodhound gang cd comes out soon that will be good for a laugh.

[Rausch]

Bloodhound gang cd comes out soon that will be good for a laugh.

Nice. I'll be grabbing that... :)

[Freekofnature]

I don't care who likes my music or not, but i see alot of these ****s that hand out music on street teams on some bands that are supposed to be awesome. I always like to hear what people think about other music.
True.

I too find it interesting to read other's opinions on things.

[Demonpenz]

Hurricane RITA still tippin!

[Demonpenz]

Nice. I'll be grabbing that... :)



have you heard the first single? I caught it on the radio by chance before it was on myspace.com and they bleeped half of it out. From what i got from the chorus goes something like

I don't have to **** you on your birthday anymore. On the radio it sounds like. "i don't birthday you more" i was like man if it gets bleeped out this much i will be getting that shit

[Miles]

Speaking of emotive, I couldn't be more pissed off after buying A Perfect Circle's uber-suck festival of $#it covers (save imagine) and otherwise uninspired politcal POV...

Yeah couldnt have been a bigger disappointment. Other than their cover of imagine and passive that album sucks.

[Freekofnature]

Emotive sucked pretty bad, but I liked What's going on, because Im a huge Marvin Gaye fan.

[Ultra Peanut]

The idea that there is an absolute "Definition" of emo music is as funny as the idea of someone sitting down and defining "Rock and roll" like it is somehow empirical in nature.Hee. That "Is Rock Dead?" thread was awesome. ROFL

Hurricane RITA still tippin!
http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/mikejones/1.htm

[Rausch]

Emotive sucked pretty bad, but I liked What's going on, because Im a huge Marvin Gaye fan.

Pshaw.

Bill Withers kicks his ass up and down the street...

[|Zach|]

Hee. That "Is Rock Dead?" thread was awesome. ROFL



Is that the one where stevie was trying to convince us rock was dead because he watched some reality TV show?

[Ultra Peanut]

Pshaw.

Bill Withers kicks his ass up and down the street...It is at this point that Al Green steps up to the podium and represents.

Uh oh, Rausch and Bill Withers have grits! Get down, Al! Get down! They mean business!

Is that the one where stevie was trying to convince us rock was dead because he watched some reality TV show?Something like that. ROFL

[Rausch]

It is at this point that Al Green steps up to the podium and represents.

Uh oh, Rausch and Bill Withers have grits! Get down, Al! Get down! They mean business!


The next time some fuqtard gives Al Green credit for a Bill Withers song I swear I'm going to jam an ink pen in his throat...

[Ultra Peanut]

The next time some fuqtard gives Al Green credit for a Bill Withers song I swear I'm going to jam an ink pen in his throat...ROFL

Wait, you mean Al Green didn't sing Ain't No Sunshine?

/me skeedaddles