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KingPriest2
09-19-2005, 02:35 PM
The way it is looking it is going to be a devasting hurricane. This is bad to say but think about it, The best place for this to hit is where Katrina hit.

The reason being is the place is already destroyed. We don't need any more destruction.

Right now the path is from NO to Mexico pretty big range.

God help the people that will be affected by this.

Donger
09-19-2005, 02:37 PM
The way it is looking it is going to be a devasting hurricane. This is bad to say but think about it, The best place for this to hit is where Katrina hit.

The reason being is the place is already destroyed. We don't need any more destruction.

Right now the path is from NO to Mexico pretty big range.

God help the people that will be affected by this.

She's not a hurricane, yet.

KingPriest2
09-19-2005, 02:38 PM
She's not a hurricane, yet.


She will be before the night is out.

Donger
09-19-2005, 02:42 PM
She will be before the night is out.

Like I said, "yet." NHC is forecasting her to turn major when she gets in the Gulf.

Category 3 minimum.

KingPriest2
09-19-2005, 02:45 PM
Like I said, "yet." NHC is forecasting her to turn major when she gets in the Gulf.

Category 3 minimum.


Do you think she will be stronger then Katrina?

Bob Dole
09-19-2005, 02:46 PM
Right now the path is from NO to Mexico pretty big range.



That's Texico, not Mexico.

http://image.weather.com/images/maps/tropical/map_tropprjpath18_fcst_5nhato_enus_600x405.jpg

JohninGpt
09-19-2005, 02:47 PM
I have nothing left for another hurricane to take, but there are a lot of businesses trying to re-open and thousands of houses with tarps where there roofs used to be. Another big one would send us back to the stone age.

Donger
09-19-2005, 02:47 PM
Do you think she will be stronger then Katrina?

Stronger? Maybe, but Category 5 storms are pretty rare. But, upon looking at the water temperatures in the Gulf, it's possible. Right around 85F.

KingPriest2
09-19-2005, 02:48 PM
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20050919-1128-tropicalweather.html

By Michelle Spitzer
ASSOCIATED PRESS

11:28 a.m. September 19, 2005



Associated Press
This satellite image from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration shows Tropical Storm Rita near the Bahamas islands at 7:45 a.m. EDT on Monday.
KEY WEST, Fla. – Residents were ordered evacuated from the lower Florida Keys on Monday as strengthening Tropical Storm Rita headed toward the island chain, threatening to grow into a hurricane with a potential 8-foot storm surge.
Although Rita's immediate threat was to Florida, rough projections of its track raised the possibility that the Louisiana coast could be targeted less than a month after Hurricane Katrina devastated the area. Oil prices surged as traders worried about Rita's possible effect on facilities in the Gulf of Mexico.

The storm had sustained wind of about 70 mph by early afternoon, up from 60 mph earlier in the day, and could be a Category 1 hurricane, with wind of at least 74 mph, by the end of the day, the National Hurricane Center said.

The Keys evacuation covered 40,000 people living from below Marathon to Key West. Visitors were ordered to clear out of the entire length of the low-lying Keys, which are connected by just one highway.

Hurricane warnings were posted for the Keys and Miami-Dade County, and the storm's eye was expected to pass near the islands Tuesday morning, the National Hurricane Center said. Voluntary evacuation orders were posted for some 134,000 Miami-Dade residents who live in coastal areas such as Miami Beach and Key Biscayne.


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Rita is the 17th named storm of the Atlantic hurricane season, making this the fourth busiest season since record-keeping started in 1851. The record is 21 tropical storms in 1933.

Computer models project that it could be in the northwest Gulf of Mexico near Mexico or Texas by the weekend, but people in areas ravaged by Hurricane Katrina in Louisiana were warned it also could veer in their direction. Katrina crossed South Florida into the Gulf last month before it turned northward to Louisiana and Mississippi.

"This is something everyone should be paying attention to," said Daniel Brown, a hurricane center meteorologist.

The man in charge of removing water from New Orleans and surveying and repairing levees warned that Rita could affect efforts to remove water from the city.

"We're watching Tropical Storm Rita's projected path and, depending on its strength and how much rain falls, everything could change. Residents moving into the area may have to evacuate again," Col. Duane Gapinski, commander of the Army Corps of Engineers Task Force Unwatering, said in a statement Monday.

If Rita strikes Texas, it could seriously disrupt the oil industry. About half of oil production and 35 percent of gasoline production in the Gulf already are shut down because of damage from Hurricane Katrina, according to the Minerals Management Service.
"We really can't afford to lose more production," said Phil Flynn, analyst at Alaron Trading Corp. in Chicago.

Key West streets were quiet Monday morning Kelly Friend and two workers boarded up her store and painted a message: "Hey bartender 1 Rita on the rocks to go!"

"Not that we're afraid of the hurricane, but we want to protect our investment," Friend said. "Plus it gives us an excuse to take a day off and drink."

The Defense Department's Northern Command sent defense coordinating officers to Florida and designated Homestead Air Force Base as a mobilization center. Military liaison officers were sent to FEMA headquarters in Atlanta and to a state emergency operations center in Tallahassee.

Six to 15 inches of rain was possible in the Keys, with 3 to 5 inches possible across southern Florida. A storm surge rising 6 to 8 feet above normal tide levels was predicted for the Keys.

Rita passed the Bahamas' southern islands during the night, but residents said the storm's outer bands didn't appear severe.

At 2 p.m. EDT, Rita was centered about 165 miles southeast of Nassau, Bahamas, or about 380 miles east-southeast of Key West. It had picked up speed and was moving to the west-northwest at about 14 mph, according to the hurricane center.

Four hurricanes struck Florida last year, killing dozens of people and causing $19 billion in insured losses. Hurricane Dennis brushed by the Keys in July before slamming the Florida Panhandle.

Farther out in the Atlantic, Hurricane Philippe formed late Sunday well east of the Lesser Antilles. At 11 a.m., Philippe had maximum sustained wind near 75 mph, and was centered about 365 miles east of the Leeward Islands. It was moving to the north near 7 mph.

The hurricane season started June 1 and ends Nov. 30.



Associated Press writer Dominic Duncombe in Nassau, Bahamas, contributed to this report.

StcChief
09-19-2005, 02:48 PM
Texas looks like the target here.

Donger
09-19-2005, 02:50 PM
Maybe a mod could merge this thread with the New Orleans one?

KingPriest2
09-19-2005, 02:51 PM
I have nothing left for another hurricane to take, but there are a lot of businesses trying to re-open and thousands of houses with tarps where there roofs used to be. Another big one would send us back to the stone age.


That is the thing how can businesses reopen when really no one is there to buy and also to work.



Also the area affected by Kat people have already left.

There will be minimal damage and casualties.

I don't want to see it happen but I would think that would be the best case scenario.

KingPriest2
09-19-2005, 02:52 PM
Texas looks like the target here.


True but it could move like it did with Katrina

FloridaMan88
09-19-2005, 02:56 PM
Yeah they've cancelled all the schools and everything for today and tommorow in Miami Dade and Monroe County (where the Keys are)

They are saying it is going to be a Cat 2 when it approaches the Lower Keys tommorow afternoon (according to forecasts).

Good news is they are saying it is a fast moving storm so it won't linger long.

JohninGpt
09-19-2005, 03:15 PM
That is the thing how can businesses reopen when really no one is there to buy and also to work.

There are lots of people here. Quite a few folks, my family included, are moved to safe locations around the country, but the vast majority are still here trying to salvage what they can or making temporary repairs to damaged homes and businesses. Also there are thousands of relief type workers, law enforcement, military, and insurance crooks (maybe I'm a little bitter about insurance right now) here from all over the country.
The majority of the uninhabitable area is within 5 or 6 blocks of the beach, unfortunatly Biloxi is mainly a peninsula about 15 blocks wide.
The areas that are farther north than that few blocks in Gulfport and other towns is damaged, but livable.

jcl-kcfan2
09-19-2005, 03:39 PM
Hey look at that...

If it keeps up, it will hit land just southwest of me, in THE worst possible spot.

I sure hope the projection changes, but we are already boarding up our rental house in galveston and getting ready to bug out for San Antonio (actually, Canyon Lake, might as well have a good time evac'ing).

On it's projected path, cat3 or higher would be very bad for the Houston area.

teedubya
09-19-2005, 03:54 PM
Hell hath no fury like Hurricane season...

KingPriest2
09-19-2005, 11:16 PM
Atlantic storm names may go Greek
List has only four names left for the year
By Peggy Mihelich
CNN


Monday, September 19, 2005; Posted: 5:19 p.m. EDT (21:19 GMT)


Tropical Storm Rita is the 17th storm to form the Atlantic basin this year.

FACT BOX
Atlantic storm names for 2005:

Arlene
Bret
Cindy
Dennis
Emily
Franklin
Gert
Harvey
Irene
Jose
Katrina
Lee
Maria
Nate
Ophelia
Philippe
Rita
Stan
Tammy
Vince
Wilma

Source: NOAA/National Hurricane Center
SPECIAL REPORT


Manage Alerts | What Is This? (CNN) -- Forecasters could run out of names for tropical storms and hurricanes before the season ends November 30.

The Atlantic basin has seen 17 named storms since season began June 1, and only four are left on the list.

What's a meteorologist to do if the names run out? Go Greek.

Should the Atlantic see more than 21 named storms "additional storms will take names from the Greek alphabet: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, and so on," according to the National Hurricane Center Web site.

"We only have four names left on the list this year: Stan, Tammy, Vince and Wilma. If we have a fifth storm it would be named Alpha," said Daniel Brown, a meteorologist at the center, which is based in Miami, Florida.

At the beginning of each Atlantic storm season, the center publishes a list of 21 storm names. They alternate male and female names in alphabetical order.

The letters Q, U, X, Y and Z are skipped because not enough names start with those letters, Brown said.

Hurricane Alpha would be a first for the hurricane center.

"There was one year in 1933 we actually had 21 storms. That's been the most in the Atlantic. However, it was before we started naming storms" Brown said.

The National Weather Service started naming storms in 1953 as way to reduce confusion over the latitude-longitude naming method.

In 1979 Atlantic male names were included, putting to an end the practice of naming hurricane's only after women.

What makes a good storm name? According to the National Weather Service, short, distinctive given names work best.

The World Meteorological Organization, a United Nations agency based in Geneva, Switzerland, now maintains lists of names for storm-prone regions around the globe.

For the North Atlantic Ocean, Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico region, the list covers six years and rotates beginning every seventh year.

Names are changed if the storm causes extreme damage and loss of life. Brown said Hurricane Katrina will "absolutely" be retired by the organization.

Andrew, the name of the 1992 hurricane that according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration killed 23 people in south Florida and three in the Bahamas and caused $26.5 billion in damage, likewise has been retired.

RedDread
09-19-2005, 11:20 PM
Hey look at that...

If it keeps up, it will hit land just southwest of me, in THE worst possible spot.

I sure hope the projection changes, but we are already boarding up our rental house in galveston and getting ready to bug out for San Antonio (actually, Canyon Lake, might as well have a good time evac'ing).

On it's projected path, cat3 or higher would be very bad for the Houston area.

Let it get into the gulf before you go too crazy here. After all-- Katrina's predicted point of landfall was Jacksonville FL after it crossed over south Florida.

Coach
09-19-2005, 11:41 PM
Christ, how many named storms we're going to have this year? :shake:

About the article KingPriest2 posted here, they left out several things.

1. The 1995 hurricane season also went down to the "T" named storm. Since the National Hurricane Center started naming hurricanes, a season has not gotten this far in the list before or since. Looks like the 2005 Hurricane season will top that, along with the potentional of maxing out all of the names.

2. The "R" named storm, first time to reach the "R" name since Hurricane Roxanne in 1995.

el borracho
09-19-2005, 11:47 PM
Texas is the new Sodom and Gamorah.

RedDread
09-19-2005, 11:54 PM
Texas is the new Sodom and Gamorah.

ROFL

Hammock Parties
09-19-2005, 11:58 PM
It's so obvious. I'm a dirty sinner.

Is this thing going to nail Houston?

RedDread
09-20-2005, 12:00 AM
There's really no way to tell at this point but TWC is putting it between Brownsville and New Orleans about 5 days from now.

Which means they know as much as you: Jack S***

Ultra Peanut
09-20-2005, 04:30 AM
PhilippeI am so freaking glad Fereep is going to be a fish.

<img src="http://www.achewood.com/rsrc/img/philippe_blog.gif" style="width: 97px; height: 111px; border: 0" alt="" />

Rita could really, really suck.

Donger
09-20-2005, 07:20 AM
Here's the new track. They've moved it SW, since they had her hitting Galveston directly yesterday.

KingPriest2
09-20-2005, 08:43 AM
Rita strengthens to hurricane
Southern Florida, Gulf Coast keeping watch

Tuesday, September 20, 2005; Posted: 9:36 a.m. EDT (13:36 GMT)

MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Forecasters upgraded Tropical Storm Rita to hurricane status Tuesday as the storm approached the Florida Keys.

The National Hurricane Center made the change after a reconnaissance plane flew into the eye of the storm and noted maximum sustained winds of 75 mph (120 kph), with gusts up to 90 mph (144 kph) and low pressure.

A Category 1 hurricane has maximum sustained winds of 74 to 95 mph (119-153 kph).

Hurricane Rita is the the ninth hurricane of the 2005 Atlantic season.

At 8 a.m. ET, the center of Rita was about 100 miles (160 kilometers) east-southeast of Key West, according to the hurricane center. The storm was moving west-northwest at about 15 mph (24 kph). (Watch storm preparations in the Keys -- 2:57)

The storm's center was forecast to pass over or near the Florida Keys later this morning.

By Monday evening, Key West Mayor Jim Weekley told reporters, about half of the city's residents had left. But the other half, about 13,000 people, had decided to try to ride out the storm, despite a mandatory evacuation order.

Even though Rita's center appeared to be headed farther south, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush on Monday cautioned the 5 million residents in metropolitan Miami to take precautions because "storms coming out of the Bahamas often strengthen very quickly."

A hurricane warning stretched from Golden Beach, in Miami-Dade, south to Florida City, around the tip of the peninsula and then north to Chokoloskee. All of the Florida Keys are included in the warning.

Hurricane warnings were also in effect for part of the Bahamas and four Cuban provinces, including Havana, which means hurricane conditions were expected within 24 hours.

Bush announced that hospital and nursing home patients were moved north from the Florida Keys on Monday.

"The intent here is to make sure that all special-needs people and frail Floridians are taken care of, first and foremost," he said. (Watch as the governor urges Floridians to prepare -- 3:54)

Robert Robertson, the general manager of Mango's restaurant in Key West, said he is not moving out as Rita moves in.

"We're staying here at the restaurant as we do every year," he said, noting the eating establishment is equipped with a generator. "There's a need to have the facilities to feed people."

"Because of the generator we're able to prepare meals for the fire department and utility crews," Robertson added.

In addition to the mandatory evacuation issued for the Keys, voluntary evacuations were issued for thousands of residents of barrier islands and low-lying areas in Miami-Dade County. A mandatory evacuation was issued for those living in mobile homes in Miami-Dade, and a voluntary evacuation was in place for mobile home residents in Broward County.

About 2,400 National Guardsmen were called up to support emergency operations, and another 8,000 were available, the governor said.

But with Rita projected to strengthen to a Category 3 storm as it moves into the Gulf, concerns went well beyond the Sunshine State.

In Galveston, Texas, a city flattened by a hurricane in 1900, Mayor Lyda Ann Thomas said she would be planning for the possibility of beginning a voluntary evacuation Tuesday.

And in New Orleans, Mayor Ray Nagin postponed a planned return of residents to the city and ordered those who had already returned to leave, because of the threat posed by Rita.

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco urged residents of southwestern Louisiana to be ready to evacuate on short notice. And because Rita could hit Texas, which already has taken in tens of thousands of Louisiana residents after Katrina, she urged them to go north instead of west. (Full story)

The latest five-day forecast from the National Hurricane Center has the storm making landfall near Galveston on late Friday or early Saturday. However, because of the erratic nature of hurricane movements, forecasters issued a "cone of probability" which showed the potential path of the storm could vary from northern Mexico to southeast Louisiana.

So far this year, two hurricanes have made landfall in the United States -- Dennis in June and Katrina in August -- and another, Ophelia, brushed by the North Carolina coast last week, bringing heavy rain and high winds but causing little damage. Two tropical storms, Arlene and Cindy, also made landfall on the Gulf Coast in June.

CNN's Rob Marciano and Shelby Linn contributed to this report.

Bob Dole
09-20-2005, 09:21 AM
This damned thing really needs to weaken, slow down and take a turn north...

Bob Dole has an 8-hour, outdoor Red Cross benefit planned for Saturday afternoon.

StcChief
09-20-2005, 10:51 AM
Hey look at that...

If it keeps up, it will hit land just southwest of me, in THE worst possible spot.

I sure hope the projection changes, but we are already boarding up our rental house in galveston and getting ready to bug out for San Antonio (actually, Canyon Lake, might as well have a good time evac'ing).

On it's projected path, cat3 or higher would be very bad for the Houston area.

Texans see it coming at prepare to leave. NO don't believe it's big and stay to ride it out. WTF.

Good luck to you and your family.

Donger
09-20-2005, 11:35 AM
She just became a Category 2 storm.

Calcountry
09-20-2005, 11:45 AM
Living on the coast of the Gulf, or the Carolinas' is like an ant trying to live on a MLB catchers' mitt.

KingPriest2
09-20-2005, 11:45 AM
She just became a Category 2 storm.


Another 10 til cat 3. By the way it looks it is getting bigger faster then expected

Could be a Cat 3 by late night

Donger
09-20-2005, 11:48 AM
Another 10 til cat 3. By the way it looks it is getting bigger faster then expected

Could be a Cat 3 by late night

She's going through some very warm water right now. Looks like the temperatures will drop by about five degrees once she gets through the Straits.

Eleazar
09-20-2005, 11:48 AM
Living on the coast of the Gulf, or the Carolinas' is like an ant trying to live on a MLB catchers' mitt.

No chit

If I lived down there, I think I would be considering a new locale after the last two seasons. Or at least building a house that's a hurricane fortress.

Donger
09-20-2005, 12:02 PM
Latest track:

ptlyon
09-20-2005, 12:13 PM
Latest track:

Looks like Larry Johnson between the tackles for a 500 mile gain

RedDread
09-20-2005, 12:18 PM
Looks like it's gonna be a rainy week here in Norman...

BigMeatballDave
09-20-2005, 12:42 PM
Latest track:I don't see how they could possibly know where its going. It just entered the gulf...

Donger
09-20-2005, 12:46 PM
I don't see how they could possibly know where its going. It just entered the gulf...

Their models are pretty good. Not to mention that the possibility cone is still very wide.

Keep in mind that the track of Katrina was almost exact, even when she was still over Florida.

oldandslow
09-20-2005, 01:08 PM
I have kin on the coast of TX who do deep sea fishing. They use a private weather service many times to plan trips. My Uncle sent me this email a few minutes ago that came from that service....


This special forecast has been issued to update the intensity forecast. SFMR data indicates Rita has become a category 2 hurricane. The SHIPS guidance needs to be interpolated to the correct initial intensity, which would yield a peak intensity of a category 4 status, not category 3. Since conditions should be favorable, and Rita not moving slow enough to be too affected by the cold eddy in the western Gulf, category 4 status of 115KT is now forecast and this is now the landfall forecast.

The track forecast is the same as 1500 UTC, since Rita is right on the previous forecast track.

Note: Forecast verification times are 0 and 12Z

Initial (1800 UTC): 23.9N 81.6W 85KT
12 Hour: 24.1N 82.8W 90KT
24 Hour: 24.1N 85.5W 100KT
36 Hour: 24.2N 88.1W 105KT
48 Hour: 24.6N 90.8W 110KT
72 Hour: 26.0N 96.0W 115KT
USE WITH EXTREME CAUTION AS FOLLOWING IS SUBJECT TO LARGE ERROR
96 Hour: 29.5N 98.0W 60KT (inland)
120 Hour: 33.5N 99.0W 25KT (inland)

Next Forecast: 0300 UTC

___________________________________

That is a cat 4 folks with about 145 mph winds. My folks are headed north, btw.

Donger
09-20-2005, 01:12 PM
I have kin on the coast of TX who do deep sea fishing. They use a private weather service many times to plan trips. My Uncle sent me this email a few minutes ago that came from that service....


This special forecast has been issued to update the intensity forecast. SFMR data indicates Rita has become a category 2 hurricane. The SHIPS guidance needs to be interpolated to the correct initial intensity, which would yield a peak intensity of a category 4 status, not category 3. Since conditions should be favorable, and Rita not moving slow enough to be too affected by the cold eddy in the western Gulf, category 4 status of 115KT is now forecast and this is now the landfall forecast.

The track forecast is the same as 1500 UTC, since Rita is right on the previous forecast track.

Note: Forecast verification times are 0 and 12Z

Initial (1800 UTC): 23.9N 81.6W 85KT
12 Hour: 24.1N 82.8W 90KT
24 Hour: 24.1N 85.5W 100KT
36 Hour: 24.2N 88.1W 105KT
48 Hour: 24.6N 90.8W 110KT
72 Hour: 26.0N 96.0W 115KT
USE WITH EXTREME CAUTION AS FOLLOWING IS SUBJECT TO LARGE ERROR
96 Hour: 29.5N 98.0W 60KT (inland)
120 Hour: 33.5N 99.0W 25KT (inland)

Next Forecast: 0300 UTC

___________________________________

That is a cat 4 folks with about 145 mph winds. My folks are headed north, btw.

I'm not sure that I'd believe those lats and lons. 26.0N 96.0W is east of Brownsville, and then the next is near San Antonio. That's a serious 90 degree turn northwards.

Possible, but unlikely, IMO.

oldandslow
09-20-2005, 01:20 PM
Donger:

I agree.

Galveston Bay looks like the most probable hit site according to the tracks I have seen. Although, it could, of course go 150 miles either way, given a 3 day lead time.

Donger
09-20-2005, 01:22 PM
Donger:

I agree.

Galveston Bay looks like the most probable hit site according to the tracks I have seen. Although, it could, of course go 150 miles either way, given a 3 day lead time.

If I had to guess right now, I'd say Corpus is in the bullseye.

RedDread
09-20-2005, 02:56 PM
All the reports I'm hearing put this at a Strong Cat 3-Cat 4 within the next 24 hours.

Calcountry
09-20-2005, 03:21 PM
I'm not sure that I'd believe those lats and lons. 26.0N 96.0W is east of Brownsville, and then the next is near San Antonio. That's a serious 90 degree turn northwards.

Possible, but unlikely, IMO.Could it be anywhere near Denver on Monday night?

Donger
09-20-2005, 03:22 PM
Could it be anywhere near Denver on Monday night?

That would be nice. We could use the rain.

My f*cking water bill was $134 last month.

RedDread
09-20-2005, 03:34 PM
was checking my local forecast from the weather channel and I got this warning:

Severe Weather Alert from the National Weather Service
...409 PM CDT TUE SEP 20 2005

...HOW RITA MAY IMPACT OKLAHOMA AND WESTERN NORTH TEXAS...

WHILE ITS STILL TOO SOON TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT PATH RITA WILL TAKE... THE POSSIBILITY OF THE STORM AFFECTING PARTS OF OKLAHOMA AND NORTH TEXAS THIS WEEKEND IS REAL. LATEST FORECASTS SUGGEST A LANDFALL ON THE MIDDLE TEXAS COAST ON FRIDAY...WITH THE WEAKENING REMNANTS OF THE STORM REACHING NORTH TEXAS AND SOUTHERN OKLAHOMA LATE SATURDAY OR EARLY SUNDAY.

HISTORICALLY LAND-FALLING HURRICANES AND TROPICAL STORMS WEAKEN DRASTICALLY AS THEY MOVE NORTH...BUT OFTEN TIMES THEY PRODUCE FLOODING RAINFALL AND ON OCCASION TORNADOES.

SOME NOTABLE EXAMPLES IN THE PAST QUARTER CENTURY INCLUDE...

"ALICIA" IN AUGUST OF 1983...UP TO 7 INCHES OF RAIN IN CENTRAL OKLAHOMA.

"TICO" IN OCTOBER OF 1983...UP TO 12 INCHES OF RAIN AT QUANAH TEXAS...AND 12 TO 16 INCHES OF RAIN FROM SOUTHWEST THROUGH CENTRAL OKLAHOMA. EXTENSIVE SEVERE FLOODING AND ONE TORNADO.

"PAINE" IN OCTOBER 1986...NEARLY 22 INCHES OF RAIN IN KAY COUNTY OF NORTHCENTRAL OKLAHOMA. 5 TORNADOES IN OKLAHOMA.

"GILBERT" IN SEPTEMBER 1988...UP TO 10 INCHES OF RAIN IN CENTRAL OKLAHOMA NEAR KINGFISHER.

"DEAN" IN AUGUST 1995...WIDESPREAD FLOODING RAIN IN WESTERN NORTH TEXAS...WITH FLASH FLOODING OF U.S. 287 WEST OF WICHITA FALLS.

BECAUSE THE TRACK IS STILL VERY UNCERTAIN...AT THIS POINT THE BEST ADVICE IS TO REMAIN ALERT FOR POSSIBLE IMPACTS OVER THE WEEKEND FROM A WEAKENING RITA. IF THE STORM TAKES A MORE EASTERLY TRACK IT IS LIKELY THAT LITTLE OR NO EFFECTS OF THE STORM WILL BE EXPERIENCED LOCALLY. FORECASTS OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS WILL MORE PRECISELY FORECAST THE TRACK OF RITA AND THE POTENTIAL WEATHER IMPACTS ON OKLAHOMA AND NORTH TEXAS.

Calcountry
09-20-2005, 03:47 PM
That would be nice. We could use the rain.

My f*cking water bill was $134 last month.Everyone else is pissed about gas prices, you bitch about the water. Go figure. :D

Donger
09-20-2005, 03:55 PM
Everyone else is pissed about gas prices, you bitch about the water. Go figure. :D

:)

Donger
09-20-2005, 05:06 PM
Wow. 45% chance of Rita going to major Category 4 or Category 5.

Hammock Parties
09-20-2005, 05:09 PM
Everyone here was at Sam's today, stocking up on water and batteries and shite.

I'm going to get PWNED.

Hope everything is back to normal by Monday night. :(

RedDread
09-20-2005, 05:09 PM
Galveston just declared a state of emergency and is starting mandatory evacuations in some areas, per CNN

Warrior5
09-20-2005, 05:14 PM
Galveston just declared a state of emergency and is starting mandatory evacuations in some areas, per CNN

Wow...I imagine that a lot of NO evacuees now residing in the Houston area are saying, "not again!"

Donger
09-20-2005, 05:17 PM
Wow...I imagine that a lot of NO evacuees now residing in the Houston area are saying, "not again!"

They are planning on moving them to Arkansas, apparently.

RedDread
09-20-2005, 05:20 PM
The bad thing about Rita is it's moving about 3x the speed that Katrina was. This means it probably won't be as powerful, but it means that unlike Katrina, the time to evacuate will be much shorter.

I think CAT-5 predictions are a little premature. Although Katrina was a CAT-5, it only made landfall as a 4. CAT 5 landfalls are extremely rare, so I hope the media doesn't get too carried away with their sensationalist BS before they really know any facts. :shake:

Everyone saw what Katrina did as a 4, if that's not warning enough I dunno what is...

tk13
09-20-2005, 05:22 PM
Galveston just declared a state of emergency and is starting mandatory evacuations in some areas, per CNN
Yeah, figures. It's tricky walking that fine line now, because if it hits and you don't act early enough, now the media and everybody else is gonna jump your behind. Of course, if this thing veers off course everybody in that area is gonna be screaming that they cried wolf and not be as urgent in the future. Katrina was supposed to hit the Florida panhandle when it entered the Gulf, and it ended up changing track once it passed Florida. I think it's better to be safe than sorry, but I wouldn't be surpised to see this thing not hit exactly where they think it will this far out.

Coach
09-20-2005, 09:07 PM
11:00PM Advisory, has it 110MPH, just one MPH short of Cat 3 Hurricane.

Coach
09-20-2005, 09:17 PM
Newest track.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT18/refresh/AL1805W5_sm2+gif/024155W_sm.gif

RedDread
09-21-2005, 12:19 AM
bump

Now a Category 3

This storm is actually more powerful than Katrina was at it's current location. The good thing is it's still moving pretty quickly off to the west, so it won't have as much time to intensify before making landfall.

Bowser
09-21-2005, 01:05 AM
Gas prices wil skyrocket if Texas gets hit. Go fill up sometime before Friday.

DenverChief
09-21-2005, 01:29 AM
Gas prices wil skyrocket if Texas gets hit. Go fill up sometime before Friday.


can we just bomb the hurricane? it works for everything else

Miles
09-21-2005, 01:43 AM
Gas prices wil skyrocket if Texas gets hit. Go fill up sometime before Friday.

There is already starting to be some decent waits at the pump around there. One of my friends in Houston had to wait over 20 minutes to get gas today.

Definitly some sound advice to fill up when before this weekend. I would be suprised if Houston is hit but doesnt hurt to do it just in case.

RedDread
09-21-2005, 06:58 AM
Now a Cat 4, Winds 135 MPH. Only 10 less than Katrina at landfall and it still has another couple days before it hits.

Mecca
09-21-2005, 07:16 AM
I'm never going to complain about living in the midwest again........

teedubya
09-21-2005, 07:25 AM
just when gas started to go down... :cuss:

Bob Dole
09-21-2005, 07:42 AM
Galveston just declared a state of emergency and is starting mandatory evacuations in some areas, per CNN

At least one of the nursing homes began evacuations Monday afternoon.

Wild shit all around.

RedDread
09-21-2005, 07:50 AM
projected path

http://image.weather.com/images/maps/tropical/map_tropprjpath18_fcst_5nhato_enus_600x405.jpg

RIP gochiefs

Donger
09-21-2005, 08:59 AM
BREAKING NEWS

Houston mayor calls for voluntary evacuations of low-lying areas as Hurricane Rita strengthens in the Gulf. Details soon.

Donger
09-21-2005, 09:02 AM
Estimating that Rita just went to a Category 5.

Bowser
09-21-2005, 09:03 AM
I know that Texas is in the crosshairs, but if New Orleans even gets a glancing blow, the floods could return easily.

Bowser
09-21-2005, 09:04 AM
Estimating that Rita just went to a Category 5.

That was a quick ascent.

Donger
09-21-2005, 09:06 AM
That was a quick ascent.

Yep. They won't know for sure until they get a Looney Bird in there, however.

It's based on radar and satellite data. The eye has become extremely well defined.

Mecca
09-21-2005, 09:06 AM
Well when it's in the Gulf it will rapidly strengthen. Considering how long it's going to be before it hits land, this thing could be really really scary when it makes landfall.

Hammock Parties
09-21-2005, 09:13 AM
I'm going to get PWNED!

Should be fun.

sd4chiefs
09-21-2005, 09:19 AM
BREAKING NEWS

Houston mayor calls for voluntary evacuations of low-lying areas as Hurricane Rita strengthens in the Gulf. Details soon.

This has to really suck for all the people who lived in New Orleans and are now living in the Houston area.

Donger
09-21-2005, 09:22 AM
WTNT43 KNHC 211447
TCDAT3
HURRICANE RITA DISCUSSION NUMBER 16
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT WED SEP 21 2005

THE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WILL NOT BE IN THE AREA OF RITA UNTIL LATER
THIS MORNING. HOWEVER...SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE THAT THE CLOUD
PATTERN IS TYPICAL OF AN INTENSE HURRICANE WITH A CLEAR EYE
SURROUNDED BY VERY DEEP CONVECTION. INITIAL INTENSITY IS ADJUSTED
UPWARD TO 120 KNOTS AT THIS TIME. HOWEVER...OBJECTIVE T-NUMBERS FROM
BOTH TAFB AND THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN CIMSS ARE PEAKING NEAR
7.0 ON THE DVORAK SCALE...SUGGESTING WINDS OF NEAR 140 KNOTS. I
WILL WAIT FOR THE PLANE TO REACH RITA TO INCREASE THE WINDS
FURTHER...IF NECESSARY. THE ENVIRONMENT IS CONDUCIVE FOR
STRENGTHENING AND RITA...AS KATRINA DID...WILL BE CROSSING THE LOOP
CURRENT OR AN AREA OF HIGH HEAT CONTENT WITHIN THE NEXT 12 HOURS OR
SO. THIS WOULD AID THE INTENSIFICATION PROCESS. THEREAFTER...THE
INTENSITY WILL BE CONTROLLED BY CHANGES IN THE EYEWALL WHICH ARE
DIFFICULT TO PREDICT. THE HEAT CONTENT IN THE WESTERN GULF OF
MEXICO IS NOT AS FAVORABLE AS IN THE AREA OF THE LOOP CURRENT SO
SLIGHT WEAKENING IS ANTICIPATED....BUT RITA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE
LANDFALL AS A MAJOR HURRICANE...AT LEAST CATEGORY THREE.

THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGE IN THE STEERING PATTERN. RITA IS MOVING
WESTWARD AT 11 KNOTS SOUTH OF A STRONG HIGH. AS THE HIGH MOVES
EASTWARD...RITA WILL GRADUALLY BEGIN TO MOVE TOWARD THE WEST-
NORTHWEST AND NORTHWEST BASICALLY TOWARD THE TEXAS COAST. THE
OFFICIAL FORECAST IS VERY CLOSE TO THE MODEL CONSENSUS AND HAS NOT
CHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST.

BOTH THE GFS AND THE GFDL SUGGEST THAT THE WIND FIELD WILL EXPAND.
THEREFORE THE FORECAST WIND RADII HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED ACCORDINLY. ON
THIS TRACK AND DUE TO THE LARGE WIND FIELD ASSOCIATED WITH RITA...A
HURRICANE WATCH WILL LIKELY BE ISSUED LATER THIS AFTERNOON OR
TONIGHT.

FORECASTER AVILA

KingPriest2
09-21-2005, 10:21 AM
She went from a cat 2 to cat 4 overnight.

Accuweather is expecting a cat 5

chiefs4me
09-21-2005, 10:45 AM
Well shit....if I am gonna have to put up with that freaking brother in law...:deevee: I might as well have GC here..:banghead: oh crap..I just thouught of something...anybody know how far inland a hurricane can go...stupid question, but answer it anyways...:hmmm: I need to know how far it can go, so I will know how many freaking family members and friends could be in it's way...so forget the smartass comments and just tell me..

chiefs4me
09-21-2005, 10:48 AM
projected path

http://image.weather.com/images/maps/tropical/map_tropprjpath18_fcst_5nhato_enus_600x405.jpg

RIP gochiefs


Wel damn, from this picture, I am in it's path....:hmmm: I wonder if my brother in Mo wants company.....ROFL

Donger
09-21-2005, 10:50 AM
Well shit....if I am gonna have to put up with that freaking brother in law...:deevee: I might as well have GC here..:banghead: oh crap..I just thouught of something...anybody know how far inland a hurricane can go...stupid question, but answer it anyways...:hmmm: I need to know how far it can go, so I will know how many freaking family members and friends could be in it's way...so forget the smartass comments and just tell me..

Probably no more than 50 or so miles. But, remember that storms are classified as hurricanes with SUSTAINED winds of greater than 74 mph, so gusts are higher.

chiefs4me
09-21-2005, 10:54 AM
Probably no more than 50 or so miles. But, remember that storms are classified as hurricanes with SUSTAINED winds of greater than 74 mph, so gusts are higher.





Who are you....where are the mods....hey mods, someone has taken over Donger's account..ROFL did I read this right, no name calling, no reference to gangbangs, no idiot jokes.....are you feeling okay?

Otter
09-21-2005, 10:56 AM
Somone make sure they get pictures of Bob Dole on his roof trying to shoot down the hurricane with a shotgun while sipping on a bottle of whiskey.

In all seriousness, stay safe if your down there. Winter isn't looking so bad this year.

Hammock Parties
09-21-2005, 11:01 AM
RIP gochiefs

Eh, I'm staying right here. We're not going to get blown away.

I won't go outside though, for fear of accidental bisection.

Bowser
09-21-2005, 11:03 AM
Eh, I'm staying right here. We're not going to get blown away.

I won't go outside though, for fear of accidental bisection.

Does this mean you're going to be wardriving Springfield again in another week?

chiefs4me
09-21-2005, 11:04 AM
Somone make sure they get pictures of Bob Dole on his roof trying to shoot down the hurricane with a shotgun while sipping on a bottle of whiskey.

In all seriousness, stay safe if your down there. Winter isn't looking so bad this year.



:deevee:already thinking about the storm and distant family and now you mention snow....:banghead: Where is Bob Dole, I wonder if he needs someone to reload.....:p

jasonhightower
09-21-2005, 11:07 AM
I heard this morning, the Hurricane could still be a Cat 1 hurricane when it hits the DFW metroplex. Not sure if that's true, but it looks like we will find out.

Donger
09-21-2005, 11:09 AM
I heard this morning, the Hurricane could still be a Cat 1 hurricane when it hits the DFW metroplex. Not sure if that's true, but it looks like we will find out.

That's virtually impossible.

I'd wager that she'll be a Category 3 at landfall.

TEX
09-21-2005, 11:15 AM
Here in Houston, we take these things very seriously. My company is letting us out early today and we're off Thursday, Friday and possibly into next week. Nobody is in a panic as we've bean through this enough so we all know what to do. The bad part will be if power is out for a long time afterwards. Such was the case with Alicia in '83. That one caused all kinds of damage in Houston and it was just barely a category 3. Rita is a much larger and more powerful storm, so we're all expecting major power outages for a long period of time.

Galveston really has thier $hit together as well. There has been a steady stream of people getting off the island.

chiefs4me
09-21-2005, 11:16 AM
I heard this morning, the Hurricane could still be a Cat 1 hurricane when it hits the DFW metroplex. Not sure if that's true, but it looks like we will find out.




no freaking way will it come that far.....now be quiet, you are bringing us bad luck....:harumph: I mean, it won't...right?:hmmm:

chiefs4me
09-21-2005, 11:18 AM
Here in Houston, we take these things very seriously. My company is letting us out early today and we're off Thursday, Friday and possibly into next week. Nobody is in a panic as we've bean through this enough so we all know what to do. The bad part will be if power is out for a long time afterwards. Such was the case with Alicia in '83. That one caused all kinds of damage in Houston and it was just barely a category 3. Rita is a much larger and more powerful storm, so we're all expecting major power outages for a long period of time.

Galveston really has thier $hit together as well. There has been a steady stream of people getting off the island.




are you leaving town....are you coming to dallas charlie...:D

jasonhightower
09-21-2005, 11:20 AM
no freaking way will it come that far.....now be quiet, you are bringing us bad luck....:harumph: I mean, it won't...right?:hmmm:

I don't even want rain until later Sunday! I'm camping in North Texas this weekend.

Donger
09-21-2005, 11:20 AM
no freaking way will it come that far.....now be quiet, you are bringing us bad luck....:harumph: I mean, it won't...right?:hmmm:

No, it won't. At least not a hurricane strength.

It will, however, drop a lot of rain probably all the way up to Oklahoma.

Hammock Parties
09-21-2005, 11:21 AM
Here in Houston, we take these things very seriously. My company is letting us out early today and we're off Thursday, Friday and possibly into next week. Nobody is in a panic as we've bean through this enough so we all know what to do. The bad part will be if power is out for a long time afterwards. Such was the case with Alicia in '83. That one caused all kinds of damage in Houston and it was just barely a category 3. Rita is a much larger and more powerful storm, so we're all expecting major power outages for a long period of time.

Galveston really has thier $hit together as well. There has been a steady stream of people getting off the island.

Crap. What are the chances of power being restored by Monday night?

Bowser
09-21-2005, 11:24 AM
Crap. What are the chances of power being restored by Monday night?

Slim to none, for no other reason than you want the power back on by Monday night. It's just the way shit like this works, unfortunately.

Calcountry
09-21-2005, 11:28 AM
If you haven't filled ALL of your gas tanks yet, read this:

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September 21, 2005 10:22:07 (ET)

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Donger
09-21-2005, 11:30 AM
"You've got refineries that will start shutting down in anticipation of the hurricane, and then if any of them have permanent damage, we're going to be dependent on imports. Following Katrina, this is really serious

It's already started: BP Starts Shutting Texas City Refinery

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050921/ap_on_bi_ge/rita_refineries_hk3;_ylt=AsTuuIY8UzO1ZiQtpu6HGMKs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3bGI2aDNqBHNlYwM3NDk-

Calcountry
09-21-2005, 11:32 AM
Eh, I'm staying right here. We're not going to get blown away.

I won't go outside though, for fear of accidental bisection.Please keep us updated. Good luck, and stay safe. Don't do anything stupid.

Goapics1
09-21-2005, 11:35 AM
If you haven't filled ALL of your gas tanks yet, read this:

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September 21, 2005 10:22:07 (ET)

(Adds CEO comments and other details) SAN ANTONIO, Sept 21 (Reuters) - Valero Energy Corp. (VLO (https://us.etrade.com/e/t/invest/quotesandresearch?qmenu=2&prod=VLO:US:EQ),Trade (https://us.etrade.com/e/t/applogic/OrderForm?Symbol=VLO)) Chairman and Chief Executive Bill Greehey said Hurricane Rita's impact on U.S. crude oil production and refining could be a "national disaster." "If it hits the refineries, and we're short refining capacity, you're going to see gasoline prices well over $3.00 a gallon at the pump," Greehey said in a Tuesday night interview. Valero became the largest U.S. refiner earlier this year when it completed the purchase of Premcor Inc. Valero operates refineries in Port Arthur, Houston, Texas City and Corpus Christi, Texas -- all potentially in the path of Hurricane Rita. "It's going to be coming across the (U.S.) Gulf (of Mexico)," Greehey said. "There's a lot of oil platforms, oil rigs, (natural) gas platforms, gas rigs. It could have a significant impact on supply and prices, and then, depending on what it does to the refineries, there are still four refineries that are shut down. So this really is a national disaster." Refineries in Houston and Texas City process 2.3 million barrels of crude oil or 13.5 percent of daily U.S. refining capacity. The Beaumont-Port Arthur, Texas, refineries account for another 1.1 million barrels in refining capacity. Based on Rita's current forecast path Texas City, Houston, Port Arthur and Beaumont could be lashed by high winds and heavy rains from Rita's northeast quadrant, which often packs the highest winds in a hurricane. Valero announced on Wednesday morning it would reduce production at its Houston and Texas City refineries to prepare for the hurricane. "You've got refineries that will start shutting down in anticipation of the hurricane, and then if any of them have permanent damage, we're going to be dependent on imports. Following Katrina, this is really serious


SHIT!

Donger
09-21-2005, 11:38 AM
SHIT!

Heh. Are you surprised by this?

Mecca
09-21-2005, 11:38 AM
I'm going to go buy a bike.

Goapics1
09-21-2005, 11:40 AM
Heh. Are you surprised by this?
YES

KingPriest2
09-21-2005, 12:05 PM
No, it won't. At least not a hurricane strength.

It will, however, drop a lot of rain probably all the way up to Oklahoma.


I think it will be a cat 1 when it hits dallas.

I do know that KC on Monday might be in a tropical storm warning

I live in Joplin and we are going to get hit by it on Monday.

Donger
09-21-2005, 12:10 PM
I think it will be a cat 1 when it hits dallas.

I do know that KC on Monday might be in a tropical storm warning

I live in Joplin and we are going to get hit by it on Monday.

Again, that's virtually impossible. Camille was downgraded to a tropical storm less than 100 miles inland.

oldandslow
09-21-2005, 12:20 PM
What Donger said...

I don't understand why people "need" or "want" it to be worse than it is. I just wish the whole damn thing would whither and die.

I suspect it will hit land as a strong 3 or minimal four. Depending on where it lands, the damage will be quite sufficient without all of the hype.

Donger
09-21-2005, 12:24 PM
Here's a picture that shows predicted wind speeds of a Category 4 hurricane hitting the Gulf Coast with a forward speed of 14 mph:

Donger
09-21-2005, 12:26 PM
A legend would help:

KingPriest2
09-21-2005, 12:27 PM
Again, that's virtually impossible. Camille was downgraded to a tropical storm less than 100 miles inland.


Katrina was a Cat 1-2 when it hit Jackson Nashville was under a trop storm when it hit Nashville so it is possible My sister lives in Nashville

Also Dennis when it hit Nashville it was under a trop storm warning.

Donger
09-21-2005, 12:28 PM
WTNT63 KNHC 211807
TCUAT3
HURRICANE RITA TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
215 PM EDT WED SEP 21 2005

DATA FROM RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT RITA HAS INTENSIFIED
A LITTLE MORE AND WINDS HAVE REACHED 150 MPH WINDS WITH A MINIMUM
PRESSURE OF 920 MB. THIS MAKES RITA A STRONG CATEGORY FOUR
HURRICANE.

FORECASTER AVILA

KingPriest2
09-21-2005, 12:32 PM
WTNT63 KNHC 211807
TCUAT3
HURRICANE RITA TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
215 PM EDT WED SEP 21 2005

DATA FROM RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT RITA HAS INTENSIFIED
A LITTLE MORE AND WINDS HAVE REACHED 150 MPH WINDS WITH A MINIMUM
PRESSURE OF 920 MB. THIS MAKES RITA A STRONG CATEGORY FOUR
HURRICANE.

FORECASTER AVILA


I am afraid since this is alrdady close to a cat 5 and still being 2 to 3 days out it is only going to get sronger.

Rem at first this was suppose to be no more then a 3

Donger
09-21-2005, 12:33 PM
Katrina was a Cat 1-2 when it hit Jackson

Is that right? IIRC, she was downgraded to a TS well south of Jackson.

Anyway, I was mostly taking issue with Rita being a Category 1 when/if she hits Dallas. Dallas is ~300 miles from the Gulf.

Donger
09-21-2005, 12:35 PM
I am afraid since this is alrdady close to a cat 5 and still being 2 to 3 days out it is only going to get sronger.

Rem at first this was suppose to be no more then a 3

I disagree. She's going over the Loop right now. Looks like she'll go to 5 but I doubt that she'll hit land at that. Strong 3 or maybe a 'weak' 4.

The water temps (and of course, water depth) drop after the Loop. I'd rather have her get to 5 600 miles out.

oldandslow
09-21-2005, 12:36 PM
I am afraid since this is alrdady close to a cat 5 and still being 2 to 3 days out it is only going to get sronger.

Rem at first this was suppose to be no more then a 3

I do not think so. Hurricanes cannot typically hold top intensity for too long. Further the "loop" that Rita is in right now is incredibly warm. The water cools a bit to the west.

I am still betting (hoping) the most it will muster is cat 3 at landfall.

oldandslow
09-21-2005, 12:38 PM
Again, what Donger said...

Damn, Donger your fingers must go much faster than mine :)

KingPriest2
09-21-2005, 12:42 PM
Is that right? IIRC, she was downgraded to a TS well south of Jackson.

Anyway, I was mostly taking issue with Rita being a Category 1 when/if she hits Dallas. Dallas is ~300 miles from the Gulf.


Well I now she was a cat 1. I do know for sure Nashville I am right about

They even canceled school in Nashville because of it.

Brock
09-21-2005, 12:42 PM
I wonder whose fault this one will be.

KingPriest2
09-21-2005, 12:45 PM
I do not think so. Hurricanes cannot typically hold top intensity for too long. Further the "loop" that Rita is in right now is incredibly warm. The water cools a bit to the west.

I am still betting (hoping) the most it will muster is cat 3 at landfall.


It goes in cycles. The water temp is the same all the way accoss no real drop only 5 degrees right at the coast.

oldandslow
09-21-2005, 12:47 PM
I wonder whose fault this one will be.

All yours Brock!!!!!! :)

You are, after all, one of da debil's assistant demons.

Donger
09-21-2005, 12:47 PM
Well I now she was a cat 1. I do know for sure Nashville I am right about

They even canceled school in Nashville because of it.

I just looked it up. Katrina was downgraded to a tropical storm as she passed Laurel, Mississippi. Laurel is about 60 miles southeast of Jackson.

KingPriest2
09-21-2005, 12:49 PM
Western Gulf of Mexico Coast

About CWTG | Temperature Conversion
Water Temperatures in Degrees Fahrenheit
Present Temperatures Last Updated: Wed Sep 21 18:01:51 2005 UTC
Location Present
Temperatures
JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC
Galveston TX(42035) 85.6
54
55
61
71
78
83
86
86
83
75
67
59

Galveston Channel TX 85.8
56
58
62
71
78
84
86
87
83
76
66
59

Freeport TX 87.6
53
56
62
71
77
82
84
85
82
75
66
59

Port Mansfield TX N/A
58
61
66
75
79
83
85
85
83
76
69
62

South Padre Island TX 85.1
58
60
64
70
77
79
79
80
83
78
71
64

Port Aransas, TX(PTAT2) 86.4

Grand Island, LA (GDIL1) N/A

Buoy 42001 84.7
73
71
70
74
78
82
84
85
84
81
77
75

Buoy 42002 85.6
71
69
70
73
77
82
85
86
84
82
78
74

Buoy 42003 N/A
75
76
77

KingPriest2
09-21-2005, 12:52 PM
Eastern Gulf of Mexico Coast

About CWTG | Temperature Conversion
Water Temperatures in Degrees Fahrenheit
Present Temperatures Last Updated: Wed Sep 21 18:01:50 2005 UTC
Location Present
Temperatures
JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC
Key West FL(MLRF1) 84.6
69
70
75
78
82
85
87
87
86
82
76
72

Naples FL 81.9
66
66
71
77
82
86
87
87
86
81
73
68

St. Petersburg FL N/A
62
64
68
74
80
84
86
86
84
78
70
64

Cedar Key FL(CDRF1) N/A
58
60
66
73
80
84
86
86
83
76
66
60

Pensacola FL 85.6
56
58
63
71
78
84
85
86
82
74
65
58

Dauphin Island AL(DPIA1) 160.5
51
53
60
70
75
82
84
84
80
72
62
56

Grand Isle LA(GDIL1) N/A
61
61
64
70
77
83
85
85
83
77
70
65

Eugene Island LA N/A
51
53
60
68

Donger
09-21-2005, 12:52 PM
It goes in cycles. The water temp is the same all the way accoss no real drop only 5 degrees right at the coast.

It's not just the water temperature issue; it's also if there is enough water temperature at sufficent depth. It's been a while but I think that the temperature needs to go down at least 150 feet.

Again, IIRC, the shelf comes up significantly near the Texas coast, with a lot of shelf being less than 150 feet.

KingPriest2
09-21-2005, 12:54 PM
I just looked it up. Katrina was downgraded to a tropical storm as she passed Laurel, Mississippi. Laurel is about 60 miles southeast of Jackson.


Where did you find that?

beavis
09-21-2005, 12:57 PM
I think it will be a cat 1 when it hits dallas.

I do know that KC on Monday might be in a tropical storm warning

I live in Joplin and we are going to get hit by it on Monday.
I don't know what you are smoking, but can I get some of it?

Donger
09-21-2005, 01:11 PM
Where did you find that?

Katrina made landfall on August 29 as a Category 4 hurricane with winds of 140 mph at 6:10 a.m. CDT near Buras-Triumph, Louisiana. A few hours later, it made landfall for a third time near the Louisiana/Mississippi border with 125 mph (200 km/h) Category 3 winds. However, because the storm was so large, high and damaging winds and storm surges smashed the Mississippi coast, including Biloxi and Gulfport, and even caused damage in Alabama.

Katrina weakened thereafter, losing hurricane-strength more than 100 miles (160 km) inland, near Laurel, Mississippi. It was downgraded to a tropical depression near Clarksville, Tennessee and continued to race northward.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina

KingPriest2
09-21-2005, 01:14 PM
I don't know what you are smoking, but can I get some of it?


WTF? Dude check out Dennis and Katrina. and you would know what I am talking about;

KingPriest2
09-21-2005, 01:15 PM
I don't know what you are smoking, but can I get some of it?


MAn think

When KC and Joplin are going to get hit by the remains of the storm.

Check out the track

carlos3652
09-21-2005, 01:20 PM
I wonder whose fault this one will be.

MODS!!!!!!!!!!one!!!!eleven!!!!!ONE!!!1111

DC FORUM>>>>>>













:rolleyes:

oldandslow
09-21-2005, 01:44 PM
New update from the private mets....

It is worse than I was hoping. :(

_______________________
Residents of the Texas coast need to be prepared for a hurricane of Katrina's intensity. We expect Hurruicane Rita to make landfall in Texas late Friday or early Saturday as a category 4 hurricane and level a large portion of the Texas coastline between Corpus Christi and Galveston. We cannot at this time rule out a category 5.

All residents in mandatory evacuation zones must evacuate. If you are ordered to evacuate, do so. Failure to do so in a mandatory evacuation zone will likely result in the loss of your life.

Currently, the eye of Hurricane Rita is located near 24.3N and 86.1W. This places the center about 760 miles ESE of Corpus Christi, Texas. The motion is to the west near 12 m.p.h. We expect a wnw turn to begin.

Maximum winds have increased to 145 m.p.h. The pressure is 923mb.

Hoover
09-21-2005, 01:54 PM
This really sucks. Talk about bad luck.

Bootlegged
09-21-2005, 01:58 PM
Bush missed some black people on his first try...so he just ordered up another one. He's aiming for Kanye West's house..

Donger
09-21-2005, 02:01 PM
Category 5, 165 mph sustained.

TEX
09-21-2005, 02:05 PM
WOW! It is now a Category 5 with winds of 165 MPH.

Looks like I'm in for a pretty rough weekend... :hmmm:

Raiderhater
09-21-2005, 02:12 PM
Bush missed some black people on his first try...so he just ordered up another one. He's aiming for Kanye West's house..


ROFL

Raiderhater
09-21-2005, 02:13 PM
WOW! It is now a Category 5 with winds of 165 MPH.

Looks like I'm in for a pretty rough weekend... :hmmm:


You gonna stick it out in town?

oldandslow
09-21-2005, 02:16 PM
Category 5, 165 mph sustained.

Damn....

Still headed right for the middle of oil rig and refinery country as well.

$4.00 gas - here we come.

tk13
09-21-2005, 02:16 PM
Two Cat 5's in a month. That's ridiculous. I wonder how often that's happened in the Gulf. I can't imagine very many times...

Eleazar
09-21-2005, 02:18 PM
DAMNIT BUSH! TURN THE HURRICANES OFF!! - TORRENT

:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

BigRedChief
09-21-2005, 02:18 PM
Bush missed some black people on his first try...so he just ordered up another one. He's aiming for Kanye West's house..

You are goona fry for that one. :p

Eleazar
09-21-2005, 02:21 PM
I think it will be a cat 1 when it hits dallas.

I do know that KC on Monday might be in a tropical storm warning

I live in Joplin and we are going to get hit by it on Monday.

Holy crap. And according to Donger's graph we could be looking at 39MPH winds! Well, if the zone moves north about 500 miles. OMGZ!!!!!

Donger
09-21-2005, 02:21 PM
Two Cat 5's in a month. That's ridiculous. I wonder how often that's happened in the Gulf. I can't imagine very many times...

There have been 25 Category 5 hurricanes since 1928.

TEX
09-21-2005, 02:24 PM
You gonna stick it out in town?

Yep. I'm lucky that where I live it doesn't flood. My place was dry a few years back during Allison. The big issue is gonna be the power outage and you know how hot in can get in Houston in the summer - especially without A/C. Like I said, I have a feeling it's gonna be a bad week for me...

oldandslow
09-21-2005, 02:25 PM
and yes...

two cat 5's in a month is very unusual.

two cat 5's in a decade is unusual.

the gulf waters are extremely warm. Whether or not you want to believe we had anything to do with that is your right.

Raiderhater
09-21-2005, 02:28 PM
Yep. I'm lucky that where I live it doesn't flood. My place was dry a few years back during Allison. The big issue is gonna be the power outage and you know how hot in can get in Houston in the summer - especially without A/C. Like I said, I have a feeling it's gonna be a bad week for me...


Shoot, if I was still down there I would be using this an excuse for some time off and head on out of town for a few days.

unlurking
09-21-2005, 02:28 PM
It's obviously global warming.

(Just trying to stir the pot! ;) )

TEX
09-21-2005, 02:28 PM
There have been 25 Category 5 hurricanes since 1928.

Right, but only 1 Category 5 made landfall in the Gulf.

TEX
09-21-2005, 02:29 PM
It's obviously global warming.

(Just trying to stir the pot! ;) )


No need to stir anything as that easily could be part of it.

TEX
09-21-2005, 02:31 PM
Shoot, if I was still down there I would be using this an excuse for some time off and head on out of town for a few days.

ROFL Yep. Actually work sent us home today and we're off until at least Monday.

I-45 is a parking lot. They're going to make both sides of the freeway north-bound soon.

teedubya
09-21-2005, 02:32 PM
And according to the Weather Channel, we are at the end of a 1500 year mild hurricane cycle, and moving into a heavy cycle for the next 750-1500 years. Woo hoo.

ptlyon
09-21-2005, 02:35 PM
at least we have that to look forward to...

teedubya
09-21-2005, 02:36 PM
ROFL
I-45 is a parking lot. They're going to make both sides of the freeway north-bound soon.

It amazed me that the Gulf Coast didnt do that... everyone Northbound lane... NO ONE in the Southbound lanes... made no sense... at least Tejas has a little sense, I suppose.

Raiderhater
09-21-2005, 02:37 PM
ROFL Yep. Actually work sent us home today and we're off until at least Monday.

I-45 is a parking lot. They're going to make both sides of the freeway north-bound soon.


I'm sure it's a mess, Houston traffic usually is anyway, I can only imagine what this is going to do to it.

Hell, I'd probably end up being so frustrated with the traffic that I'd just spend my time off in town after all....

teedubya
09-21-2005, 02:38 PM
My grandma's name is Rita.

KC Dan
09-21-2005, 02:39 PM
And according to the Weather Channel, we are at the end of a 1500 year mild hurricane cycle, and moving into a heavy cycle for the next 750-1500 years. Woo hoo.
Yeah, I'm really concerned about the year 2825. It's gonna be a bitch!

Eleazar
09-21-2005, 02:40 PM
And according to the Weather Channel, we are at the end of a 1500 year mild hurricane cycle, and moving into a heavy cycle for the next 750-1500 years. Woo hoo.

Are they figuring that with all their hurricane data from the 1200s?

teedubya
09-21-2005, 02:44 PM
No they did testing on areas that have been hit by hurricanes and did paleo-hurricaneology or some shit, and took samples from various points in the Earth and determined that hurricanes run in cycles... and we are at the end of a weak hurricane time.

Bootlegged
09-21-2005, 02:44 PM
You are goona fry for that one. :p

:shrug: What?? Didn't you get the memo?

ptlyon
09-21-2005, 02:45 PM
... or the start of a heavy one...

Eleazar
09-21-2005, 02:49 PM
No they did testing on areas that have been hit by hurricanes and did paleo-hurricaneology or some shit, and took samples from various points in the Earth and determined that hurricanes run in cycles... and we are at the end of a weak hurricane time.

So they are cyclical and not caused by SUV driving and presidents eating babies. Cool.

Iowanian
09-21-2005, 02:53 PM
No need to stir anything as that easily could be part of it.

Or one of many Climate and ocean current cycles that have been fluxing since the dawn of time...........but go ahead and blame it on buffalo flatulate and Geo Metros if you must.

tk13
09-21-2005, 02:55 PM
Yeah, I'm really concerned about the year 2825. It's gonna be a bitch!
ROFL "Hurricane Randy Moss is heading directly for the entire southeast United States. It is a rare Category 18 hurricane, sustained winds 1211 mph. It is named after the legendary NFL wide reciever of the early 21st century that the United States of Randy Moss is named after. This hurricane has a chance to be special."

Bowser
09-21-2005, 02:56 PM
ROFL "Hurricane Randy Moss is heading directly for the entire southeast United States. It is a rare Category 18 hurricane, sustained winds 1211 mph. It is named after the legendary NFL wide reciever of the early 21st century that the United States of Randy Moss is named after. This hurricane has a chance to be special."

ROFL

Thanks, Sterling!

Raiderhater
09-21-2005, 02:57 PM
An interesting, albiet useless historical map for you Houstonians and those living south of town towards Galveston -

http://maps.wunderground.com/data/images/at200518_climo.gif

Eleazar
09-21-2005, 02:57 PM
Or one of many Climate and ocean current cycles that have been fluxing since the dawn of time...........but go ahead and blame it on buffalo flatulate and Geo Metros if you must.

Actually I think the Orange Mane should share some of the blame... there is definitely plenty of hot air emanating from those parts.

Bowser
09-21-2005, 02:58 PM
ROFL "Hurricane Randy Moss is heading directly for the entire southeast United States. It is a rare Category 18 hurricane, sustained winds 1211 mph. It is named after the legendary NFL wide reciever of the early 21st century that the United States of Randy Moss is named after. This hurricane has a chance to be special."

And I sincerely hope Sterling Sharpe isn't calling games in 2825, with his head in a jar Futurama-style.........

Iowanian
09-21-2005, 02:59 PM
Actually I think the Orange Mane should share some of the blame... there is definitely plenty of hot air emanating from those parts.


There is something to this hypothesis you have....Did you notice the Cat3 hurricane Iowanian, followed by cyclone Saul that blew in when they busted out the 'mama' jokes?

I'm pretty sure T@co summoned the national guard.

RedDread
09-21-2005, 03:00 PM
One thing they talked about with Katrina is when hurricanes get this large they tend to move where they want to instead of being controlled by upper level winds. Katrina stayed on a northward track for 2 (3?) days and never really started to turn eastward till it made landfall.

Donger
09-21-2005, 03:05 PM
at 4 PM CDT...2100z...a Hurricane Watch has been issued for Gulf of
Mexico coast from Port Mansfield Texas to Cameron Louisiana.

At 4 PM CDT...2100z...a tropical storm watch has been issued for
east of Cameron to Grand Isle Louisiana and from south of Port
Mansfield to Brownsville.

At 4 PM CDT...2100z...the government of Mexico has issued a tropical
storm watch for the northeast coast of Mexico from Rio San Fernando
northward.

A Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are possible
within the watch area...generally within 36 hours. A tropical storm
watch means that tropical storm conditions are possible within the
watch area...generally within 36 hour

Eleazar
09-21-2005, 03:06 PM
There is something to this hypothesis you have....Did you notice the Cat3 hurricane Iowanian, followed by cyclone Saul that blew in when they busted out the 'mama' jokes?

I'm pretty sure T@co summoned the national guard.

Yes, they are known for the yo mama jokes over there, but Taco's slow response was obviously to blame for the damage.

tk13
09-21-2005, 03:10 PM
ROFL

Thanks, Sterling!
Quit whining, Americans

Jason Whitlock
Des KansaMoines City Star


There is nothing worse than hearing Mossian-Americans whine.

I want to take some time out of my mission to get Jeff George back into the NFL for the 434th time with the Idaho Dynamites to talk about all you people complaining about Hurricane Moss.

I have been flooded with complaints of Mossian-Americans complaining about the size of Hurricane Moss. I have not seen the storm or heard the coverage, but stop your whining, it's embarrassing. I don't care if it's the worst hurricane to hit the United States of Moss, it's embarrassing to hear you Americans whine about how some petty little hurricane is going to hit somewhere.

I don't have time for this. I'm over 800 years old, I've heard a lot of whining over the years. When all you people actually survive a hurricane, then maybe you'll get some respect from me.. Until then, stop your whining. The end. Back to the freezer for me.

beavis
09-21-2005, 04:16 PM
MAn think

When KC and Joplin are going to get hit by the remains of the storm.

Check out the track
I guess I'd better quit screwing around on the computer and start gathering canned goods and water.

beavis
09-21-2005, 04:17 PM
Bush missed some black people on his first try...so he just ordered up another one. He's aiming for Kanye West's house..
Funniest thing I've read on here in a while. Classic. ROFL

Donger
09-21-2005, 04:32 PM
F*ck.

...RITA BECOMES THE FIFTH MOST INTENSE HURRICANE ON RECORD...

DROPSONDE DATA FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE
AIRCRAFT AT 416 PM CDT...2116Z...INDICATED THE CENTRAL PRESSURE HAS
FALLEN TO 904 MB...OR 26.69 INCHES. THIS MAKES RITA THE FIFTH MOST
INTENSE HURRICANE IN TERMS OF PRESSURE IN THE ATLANTIC BASIN.

RITA CURRENTLY RANKS BEHIND HURRICANE GILBERT IN 1988 WITH 888
MB...THE 1935 LABOR DAY HURRICANE WITH 892 MB...HURRICANE ALLEN IN
1980 WITH 899 MB...AND HURRICANE KATRINA LAST MONTH WITH 902 MB.

FORECASTER STEWART

Bowser
09-21-2005, 04:35 PM
F*ck.

...RITA BECOMES THE FIFTH MOST INTENSE HURRICANE ON RECORD...

DROPSONDE DATA FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE
AIRCRAFT AT 416 PM CDT...2116Z...INDICATED THE CENTRAL PRESSURE HAS
FALLEN TO 904 MB...OR 26.69 INCHES. THIS MAKES RITA THE FIFTH MOST
INTENSE HURRICANE IN TERMS OF PRESSURE IN THE ATLANTIC BASIN.

RITA CURRENTLY RANKS BEHIND HURRICANE GILBERT IN 1988 WITH 888
MB...THE 1935 LABOR DAY HURRICANE WITH 892 MB...HURRICANE ALLEN IN
1980 WITH 899 MB...AND HURRICANE KATRINA LAST MONTH WITH 902 MB.

FORECASTER STEWART

:shake:

Has Castro developed a weather weapon, or something?

Bwana
09-21-2005, 04:35 PM
Bush missed some black people on his first try...so he just ordered up another one. He's aiming for Kanye West's house..

Classic! ROFL

Coach
09-21-2005, 05:54 PM
6:54 P.M. CDT

Weather Channel reported that Hurricane Rita pressure has been dropped to 899mb.

RedDread
09-21-2005, 06:06 PM
CNN sez:

Hurricane Rita becomes third most intense storm on record, according to National Hurricane Center figures.

edit: from TWC

Hurricane Rita's rapid intensification cycle that began Tuesday afternoon continues. Top winds are up to 165 mph, now a category 5 hurricane. Rita's pressure has dramatically dropped to 899 millibars! Even as a large and extremely intense category 5 hurricane, further strengthening is possible as the atmosphere remains favorable for development over the next 24 hours.

Rita is forecast to continue on a westward track through the Gulf of Mexico over the next 24 hours. A gradual turn toward the northwest is anticipated Thursday night and Friday. If there is any good news at this point, it is the fact that it is very difficult for a hurricane to maintain category 5 status for an lengthy period of time. Near-perfect to perfect atmospheric conditions are necessary for a category 5 hurricane to exist and these "perfect" conditions are first - difficult to come by and second - do not remain in place for a long period of time. So although Rita is currently a category 5 hurricane, fluctuations in intensity is likely. That being said, it is almost a certainty that Rita will make landfall as a large, intense, major hurricane with impacts extending well away from the center. Hurricane force winds extend 70 miles away from the center and tropical storm force winds extend 175 miles from the center. Landfall is possible late Friday or early Saturday along the Texas coast. Residents and tourists in locations such as Corpus Christi, Aransas Pass, San Jose Island, Matagorda Island, Port Lavaca, Port O'Connor, Bay City, Lake Jackson, Freeport, Galveston, Texas City, Houston, and Port Author should ALL prepare for a very dangerous landfalling major hurricane.

Ultra Peanut
09-21-2005, 06:24 PM
6:54 P.M. CDT

Weather Channel reported that Hurricane Rita pressure has been dropped to 899mb.Unbelievable.

Coach
09-21-2005, 06:28 PM
Unbelievable.

Even worse.

At 6:50 pm CDT, a reconassaince aircraft recorded a pressure reading of 899, but it was thought to actually be lower since the reading was not from the center.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Rita



And Katrina's lowest mb was at 902.

Yikes.

Eleazar
09-21-2005, 06:37 PM
:eek:

Bob Dole
09-21-2005, 06:48 PM
weather.com has edited their original article...

Hurricane Rita's rapid intensification cycle that began Tuesday afternoon continues. Top winds are up to 165 mph, now a category 5 hurricane. Rita's pressure has dramatically dropped to 898 millibars!

Ultra Peanut
09-21-2005, 07:34 PM
:eek:That thing is... wow. Two almost unprecedented, damn-near perfect storms, in the span of a month.

Horrible thing is, whether this thing weakens or not, this is going to bring with it some absolutely wicked storm surge.

Eleazar
09-21-2005, 07:46 PM
That thing is... wow. Two almost unprecedented, damn-near perfect storms, in the span of a month.

Horrible thing is, whether this thing weakens or not, this is going to bring with it some absolutely wicked storm surge.

It's really amazing, I mean look at that monster. It covers half of the Gulf of Mexico.

Phobia
09-21-2005, 07:57 PM
Crazy. I'm glad I don't live there at the moment. The depression that hit there 4 years ago dropped nearly 30 inches of water on the city in 24 hours. I can't imagine what a storm of this size would do.

The in-laws are mostly headed north. I heard that the drivetime from Houston to Dallas is 12 hours. I've done it in 3.

tommykat
09-21-2005, 08:01 PM
Crazy. I'm glad I don't live there at the moment. The depression that hit there 4 years ago dropped nearly 30 inches of water on the city in 24 hours. I can't imagine what a storm of this size would do.

The in-laws are mostly headed north. I heard that the drivetime from Houston to Dallas is 12 hours. I've done it in 3.

Are they heading to KC or just Dallas? I hope they are OK~

Phobia
09-21-2005, 08:04 PM
Just to Dallas. Are you kidding? My in-laws wouldn't want to be anywhere near me.

Bob Dole
09-21-2005, 08:21 PM
One of Bob Dole's co-worker's sister's car is sitting in a parking lot in Galveston while her cruise ship stays out for an extra two days.

That's got to make for a relaxing cruise.

Glub glub glub...

tommykat
09-21-2005, 08:44 PM
Just to Dallas. Are you kidding? My in-laws wouldn't want to be anywhere near me.

:Poke::shrug:

tommykat
09-21-2005, 08:45 PM
One of Bob Dole's co-worker's sister's car is sitting in a parking lot in Galveston while her cruise ship stays out for an extra two days.

That's got to make for a relaxing cruise.

Glub glub glub...

Ouch, I think I would stay on the Ship......Hey Bob, have you rode your bike to KC yet?

ROYC75
09-21-2005, 08:55 PM
Galveston's seawall is 17' tall, they are expecting a 50' surge. :eek:

Ride that surf and you are one bad mojo......

tommykat
09-21-2005, 08:57 PM
Galveston's seawall is 17' tall, they are expecting a 50' surge. :eek:

Ride that surf and you are one bad mojo......

Can "we all" SAY IDIOT???

Bowser
09-21-2005, 09:00 PM
Galveston's seawall is 17' tall, they are expecting a 50' surge.

What? A five story tall wall of water? Where did you hear this?

tommykat
09-21-2005, 09:01 PM
What? A five story tall wall of water? Where did you hear this?

Slapping my head.........do you watch CNN or FOX news???

KingPriest2
09-21-2005, 09:39 PM
Holy crap. And according to Donger's graph we could be looking at 39MPH winds! Well, if the zone moves north about 500 miles. OMGZ!!!!!


Don't be a idiot. Oh nevermind.

All I am saying is we are going to be under a trop storm warning

Hey look it up Katrina did do some damage in Tennesse and Kentucky so I wouldn't really be acting that way.

KingPriest2
09-21-2005, 09:55 PM
I guess I'd better quit screwing around on the computer and start gathering canned goods and water.


Don't be f*cking stupid

RedDread
09-21-2005, 11:00 PM
Winds now 175 MPH pressure 897 mb, Movement has slowed from W 14 to W 9 which indicates the northward turn will happen sooner. The storm track has been adjusted slightly

http://image.weather.com/images/maps/tropical/map_tropprjpath18_fcst_5nhato_enus_600x405.jpg

Also I noticed something GC

http://image.weather.com/images/maps/tropical/map_spectrop03_ltst_6nh_enus_600x405.jpg

Unless you're north of Houston you're in a manditory evactuation area.

Hammock Parties
09-21-2005, 11:07 PM
I'm north of Humble. To quote Indiana Jones "we're well out of range."

Bowser
09-21-2005, 11:09 PM
I'm north of Humble. To quote Indiana Jones "we're well out of range."

Heh heh. That's rep worthy, but I've given you too much rep here lately. Kudos, though.



:D

Ultra Peanut
09-22-2005, 03:30 AM
http://ritahax.ytmnd.com/

tk13
09-22-2005, 03:46 AM
They've seemingly shifted things to the east slightly, as the thing is turning north. Some of the hurricane warning area now extends into southwest Louisiana, and Trop. Storm warnings now extend all the way to New Orleans. The Houston area still the main area under the gun though.

RedDread
09-22-2005, 04:02 AM
http://ritahax.ytmnd.com/


hehe, after looking at the dudes profile it looks to be the sequel to http://katrinahax.ytmnd.com/

sorry if that's a repost.

Ultra Peanut
09-22-2005, 04:03 AM
"ne1 rez plz?"

Ouch. So wrong. ROFL

chiefqueen
09-22-2005, 06:26 AM
Hopefully 7 A.M. numbers start a trend

Winds are down to 170 MPH

however, the biggest thing is

Pressure rose 10mb to 907mb

Also if you look at it on satellite it is not as symmetrical as yesterday

teedubya
09-22-2005, 06:28 AM
you have to feel for the peeps in teh Astrodome, right now. man...

memyselfI
09-22-2005, 07:35 AM
Hopefully 7 A.M. numbers start a trend

Winds are down to 170 MPH

however, the biggest thing is

Pressure rose 10mb to 907mb

Also if you look at it on satellite it is not as symmetrical as yesterday

Good news/bad news scenario if there ever was one...

the good news is the winds are down 5 MPH and now only the 6th intense hurricane ever.

The bad news is that this 'weakening' comes with a slight turn northwards and how it's path effects NO more than it was predicted yesterday.

Donger
09-22-2005, 07:35 AM
Tell you what, I do NOT like this new track. I have a horrible feeling that it's going to continue NE.

oldandslow
09-22-2005, 07:41 AM
Yup....

New path just destroys the largest oil producing/refining portion of the GOM.

This will put the big hurt on gas - oil.

Damn.

Another energy shock?
18: NUMBER OF OIL REFINERIES, ABOUT 1/4 OF U.S. CAPACITY, IN RITA'S PROJECTED PATH

469: NUMBER OF OIL PRODUCTION PLATFORMS IN THE GULF 'UNSTAFFED' YESTERDAY

47%: PORTION OF THE GULF'S NORMAL GAS PRODUCTION NOW OFFLINE

73%: PORTION OF THE GULF'S NORMAL OIL PRODUCTION NOW OFFLINE

27 million:NUMBER OF BARRELS OF GULF OIL PRODUCTION LOST SINCE AUG. 26

memyselfI
09-22-2005, 07:47 AM
Yup....

New path just destroys the largest oil producing/refining portion of the GOM.

This will put the big hurt on gas - oil.

Damn.

Another energy shock?
18: NUMBER OF OIL REFINERIES, ABOUT 1/4 OF U.S. CAPACITY, IN RITA'S PROJECTED PATH

469: NUMBER OF OIL PRODUCTION PLATFORMS IN THE GULF 'UNSTAFFED' YESTERDAY

47%: PORTION OF THE GULF'S NORMAL GAS PRODUCTION NOW OFFLINE

73%: PORTION OF THE GULF'S NORMAL OIL PRODUCTION NOW OFFLINE

27 million:NUMBER OF BARRELS OF GULF OIL PRODUCTION LOST SINCE AUG. 26

I don't think we can even begin to estimate the economic impact of this one/two punch on the economy that was showing signs of strain to begin with.

jasonhightower
09-22-2005, 07:52 AM
There is more talk that this thing could be a CAT 1 hurricane in North Texas and Northern Louisiana, with winds over 73 mph! I would think it would have to be a CAT 4 or CAT 5 when it hits land for this to be a real possibility.

Damn, I hope this thing simmers down a little...

TEX
09-22-2005, 08:34 AM
Well now that Rita has taken a more northward turn, it's literally heading STRAIGHT FOR ME as it looks to be heading right up Galveston Bay and up the Houston Ship Channel. So, now I'm LEAVING for San Antonio as all lanes are now opened as OUTBOUND out of Houston.

I've been in a few Hurricanes but NOT like this one.

beavis
09-22-2005, 08:35 AM
Don't be f*cking stupid
I'll take that under advisment.

beavis
09-22-2005, 08:39 AM
Well now that Rita has taken a more northward turn, it's literally heading STRAIGHT FOR ME as it looks to be heading right up Galveston Bay and up the Houston Ship Channel. So, now I'm LEAVING for San Antonio as all lanes are now opened as OUTBOUND out of Houston.

I've been in a few Hurricanes but NOT like this one.
Run Forrest!

Seriously, good luck man.

Eleazar
09-22-2005, 08:43 AM
I'll take that under advisment.

Watch out man. We're going to have a tropical storm in Kansas City. Batten the hatches!

p.s. - dooOOOOoooOOOOmmmmmmeedddddddDDDDDD

kccrazzi
09-22-2005, 09:10 AM
How crazy is this? Mother and Father inlaw have been renting an apartment approx 3blocks away from the astrodome in Houston due to chemo sessions at MD. Anderson. They were told last Sunday to get a plan together and pick up survival items on Monday so that they would be some what prepared to leave in a hurry. Last night Mother inlaw called and was very upset due to the Target store was completely out of everything. Obviously she didn't listen earlier in the week about an evacuation plan or items needed to survive. Now my brother inlaw which lives in K.C. is headed to Houston to ride this monster out with them or hopfully relocate them to San Antonio for a short stay. Of course the brave beer that I was drinking last night helped me to decide that he shouldn't have to bare all this on his own and that I could fly down today to help them get through this.He declined and said no just one of us needs to be stranded and away from our family for who knows how long. Well any ways wife and I went shoppng this morning and have shipped water, can foods, and what ever else we could think of. It should arrive there tomorrow morning as promised. Man what a mess! Any prayers are appreciated.

Bootlegged
09-22-2005, 09:23 AM
I'm no weather geek, but this thing sure looks like it is going to hit NOLA, at least in large part.

Donger
09-22-2005, 09:26 AM
I'm no weather geek, but this thing sure looks like it is going to hit NOLA, at least in large part.

Here's the latest track. Pretty significant movement towards LA.

Bootlegged
09-22-2005, 09:34 AM
Here's the latest track. Pretty significant movement towards LA.



If this thing does hit NOLA, the religious fanatics will come out in droves, claiming this is a message from God.

KingPriest2
09-22-2005, 09:35 AM
Good news/bad news scenario if there ever was one...

the good news is the winds are down 5 MPH and now only the 6th intense hurricane ever.

The bad news is that this 'weakening' comes with a slight turn northwards and how it's path effects NO more than it was predicted yesterday.


This is sad to say but not too many people realize it but the best case would be for Rita to hit the same spot as Katrina The place is already devasted. No more damage can happen really

If it hits the HOuston area you are going to have that much more damage and why would you want that to happen?

KingPriest2
09-22-2005, 09:38 AM
Watch out man. We're going to have a tropical storm in Kansas City. Batten the hatches!

p.s. - dooOOOOoooOOOOmmmmmmeedddddddDDDDDD


D*ck


Grow up

KC is going to get the remains of it

Never once did I say that the weather is going to be terrifying

All I said was iit was going to get the remains of the storm

Donger
09-22-2005, 09:40 AM
D*ck


Grow up

KC is going to get the remains of it

Never once did I say that the weather is going to be terrifying

All I said was iit was going to get the remains of the storm

Well, you did say, "I do know that KC on Monday might be in a tropical storm warning."

KingPriest2
09-22-2005, 09:43 AM
Well, you did say, "I do know that KC on Monday might be in a tropical storm warning."


Well KC might be. That is true

Donger
09-22-2005, 09:44 AM
Well KC might be. That is true

No, it won't. Period.

Tropical Storm Warning:

A warning that sustained winds within the range of 34 to 63 kt (39 to 73 mph or 63 to 118 km/hr) associated with a tropical cyclone are expected in a specified coastal area within 24 hours or less.

KingPriest2
09-22-2005, 09:49 AM
No, it won't. Period.

Tropical Storm Warning:

A warning that sustained winds within the range of 34 to 63 kt (39 to 73 mph or 63 to 118 km/hr) associated with a tropical cyclone are expected in a specified coastal area within 24 hours or less.


Then why was Nashville in a warning.

That is why I said Might.

oldandslow
09-22-2005, 09:50 AM
Well, folks, I think a bad scenerio is beginning to play out.

We are beginning EWRC (eye wall reconstruction) and the weakening of Rita way to early. She is going to hit warmer water with a new eyewall and actually strengthen before making landfall. Eye pressure will probably raise to the 930's before dipping back down while restrengthening. I guessed strong cat 3 yesterday. I no longer think so. Moderate to strong cat 4 is a better guess at this point.

The track is pulling right - but I am still betting on just north of Galveston Bay.

Finally, high pressure may cause Rita to stall over N. Texas. The rain some of you were hoping for may come, but it could be 15-20".

Ultra Peanut
09-22-2005, 09:56 AM
Then why was Nashville in a warning.That was actually an inland tropical storm warning, for semantic purposes.

Saulbadguy
09-22-2005, 09:56 AM
"ne1 rez plz?"

Ouch. So wrong. ROFL
Heh. Reminds me of Ultima Online. Ghosts would follow you around asking for a rez, but all you would see is "OooO ooo OooOoOo"

Then i'd attempt to rez them, even though I didn't have the proper skills. They'd stick around long enough until their body decayed so you could loot them. Loot!

memyselfI
09-22-2005, 09:57 AM
This is sad to say but not too many people realize it but the best case would be for Rita to hit the same spot as Katrina The place is already devasted. No more damage can happen really

If it hits the HOuston area you are going to have that much more damage and why would you want that to happen?

I guess that would be the 'best case.' I tend to think that parts of NO might be salvagable in it's current condition. Another hit could make it less possible.

Perhaps that is preferable to new damage in other areas, I don't know. Lesser of two evils, I guess.

Donger
09-22-2005, 09:58 AM
Then why was Nashville in a warning.

That is why I said Might.

Because even if Rita hits as a Category 5, winds cannot be sustained that far north. KC is about 200 north of Nashville.

Eleazar
09-22-2005, 10:03 AM
No, it won't. Period.

Tropical Storm Warning:

A warning that sustained winds within the range of 34 to 63 kt (39 to 73 mph or 63 to 118 km/hr) associated with a tropical cyclone are expected in a specified coastal area within 24 hours or less.

What is your problem? Didn't you read? There's going to be a tropical storm in Kansas City. I know, there usually aren't many tropical storms in areas where the nearest coastline is 800 miles away but this baby is for real. Home Depots in Kansas are selling out of plywood because of Rita. I-35 north is a parking lot. People are boarding up their houses and fleeing to Iowa and Nebraska - hopefully they will be safe from Rita there, but who knows. We might need to go all the way to Canada to get away from it. I heard that one track has Rita destroying Minneapolis.

BTW - didn't you hear that we're dOOoooOOmmmMMmeddDDD????//

Ultra Peanut
09-22-2005, 11:12 AM
Heh. Reminds me of Ultima Online. Ghosts would follow you around asking for a rez, but all you would see is "OooO ooo OooOoOo"ROFL

Then i'd attempt to rez them, even though I didn't have the proper skills. They'd stick around long enough until their body decayed so you could loot them. Loot!ROFL

ct
09-22-2005, 11:59 AM
Well now that Rita has taken a more northward turn, it's literally heading STRAIGHT FOR ME as it looks to be heading right up Galveston Bay and up the Houston Ship Channel. So, now I'm LEAVING for San Antonio as all lanes are now opened as OUTBOUND out of Houston.

I've been in a few Hurricanes but NOT like this one.

Hopefully you're already gone, but wishing you the best anyway!! Good Luck and God Speed TEX!

I was really glad to hear them open the inbound lanes as outbound traffic. I have a cousin and family, including non-English speaking in-laws, who live near Galveston, who've already packed up and gone to Katy, TX, just north of Houston as of last night to her parents' home. Word from them was is it continued towards Houston today, they were packin up to head to Dallas to my other aunt's house. My parents and I have offerred up our homes in Wichita, if they want/need to go even further.

Pennywise
09-22-2005, 12:01 PM
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/023809.shtml?swath

Looks like a monster.

Donger
09-22-2005, 12:01 PM
Down to a strong Category 4, 150 mph sustained.

BIG_DADDY
09-22-2005, 12:03 PM
Hopefully you're already gone, but wishing you the best anyway!! Good Luck and God Speed TEX!

I was really glad to hear them open the inbound lanes as outbound traffic. I have a cousin and family, including non-English speaking in-laws, who live near Galveston, who've already packed up and gone to Katy, TX, just north of Houston as of last night to her parents' home. Word from them was is it continued towards Houston today, they were packin up to head to Dallas to my other aunt's house. My parents and I have offerred up our homes in Wichita, if they want/need to go even further.

No doubt, take care TEX.

KingPriest2
09-22-2005, 12:04 PM
Because even if Rita hits as a Category 5, winds cannot be sustained that far north. KC is about 200 north of Nashville.


IT affected Lousiville as well. about the same as KC

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As Gulf Coast residents struggled with the onslaught of Hurricane Katrina, Kentucky and Southern Indiana officials spent yesterday preparing for its remnants.

And even before the storm's full brunt hit here, there were problems.

In Hopkinsville, a young girl was missing. Police said a witness reported seeing the child, who had been playing in a pool of storm water, swept into a drain pipe.

A wall and part of the roof on the science wing at Christian County High School collapsed after up to 9 inches of rain fell overnight. No one was injured.

Gov. Ernie Fletcher put the Kentucky National Guard on alert as flood watches were in effect for most of the state, and as many as 15 roads already were under water yesterday in parts of Hopkinsville near the Little River, as well as in Logan and Trigg counties.

The larger storm system was expected to enter Kentucky late last night, perhaps as a tropical storm, weakening to a tropical depression by the time it hits Louisville. It was predicted to pack strong winds, possible tornadoes and lots of rain, the National Weather Service said.

"The storm is going to move quickly and be quite strong," said Mike Callahan, a hydrologist with the weather service.

Statewide, "we could see between 3 and 5 inches over the next 72 hours," as well as downed trees and power lines, as well as flash flooding in low-lying areas.

In Indiana, state police yesterday issued an advisory warning that people who live near streams and low-lying areas should be prepared to evacuate should water begin rising.

In Louisville, Metro public works employees began Sunday night positioning barricades near viaducts and low-lying roads so they can put into place quickly if water begins to rise, said Chad Carlton, a spokesman for Metro Mayor Jerry Abramson.

The Metropolitan Sewer District also moved 200 to 300 employees to 12-hour shifts so they could monitor streams, drainage ditches and pumping stations around the clock.

MSD director Bud Schardein said the district was prepared to set up emergency generators if pumps fail. "We don't want any of this backing up into people's basements," he said.

Schardein recommended that people rake debris away from any culvert and storm sewer or catch basin grates on their property. Anyone with obstructed culverts or grates who can't clear them can call MSD at 587-0603 or MetroCall at 311.

The Ohio River is expected to rise some as the storm system moves up the Ohio Valley, but Schardein said he doesn't expect it to rise enough to require flood gates be installed

Saulbadguy
09-22-2005, 12:04 PM
Down to a strong Category 4, 150 mph sustained.
Is that a good or bad thing?

Saulbadguy
09-22-2005, 12:05 PM
Worthless bullshit people always scroll past because I don't attempt to clean up the article
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Donger
09-22-2005, 12:08 PM
Is that a good or bad thing?

By itself, it's a good thing. It could be due to an eyewall replacement cycle, however. If so, she could regain strength.

KingPriest2
09-22-2005, 12:14 PM
Because even if Rita hits as a Category 5, winds cannot be sustained that far north. KC is about 200 north of Nashville.
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Not saying Rita will do this but based on what we are seeing from Rita it has a chance.

This was in westren Kentucky from Katrina
http://www.murrayledger.com/articles/2005/08/30/top_story/news01.txt

Hurricane's effects hit western Kentucky

By JOHN WRIGHT
Staff Writer



Rick Shanklin has seen a lot in his years as a meteorologist with the National Weather Service's Paducah Office. However, he said what he was seeing from the remnants of Hurricane Katrina was surprising even to him.

"It's rather remarkable to me right now how intense Katrina still is this far inland. The life of a hurricane is water, and it's been over land for several hours now, yet it's still a very intense system," the Paducah office's warning coordinator remarked Monday afternoon as Katrina's outer rain bands pummeled areas of western Kentucky and northwest Tennessee with torrential rain.

The rain continued into this morning as Katrina has still managed to remain a tropical storm, even with its center approaching the Mississippi-Tennessee line.

"As far as rainfall, I'd say we've seen about what we expected from this, at least two inches, perhaps two and a half in some places (including Calloway County)," said meteorologist Jim Packett, whose shift at the Paducah office began at 11 p.m. Monday and has been quite busy since then. That included issuing several flash flood warnings overnight, including one for Calloway County that began around 12:30 a.m. and was kept in effect until 7.

"And we're probably going to let that one go ahead and expire then, because the rain band that caused that has moved on to the northwest," Packett added of the Calloway warning. "However, later this morning, as the (center) continues to approach, that band may rotate back around into the area, meaning we might have to issue another warning for that area. Probably that will mean another one to two inches for Calloway before it stops after mid-day."


Trees have been reported across roads across western Kentucky and into Tennessee. This was the result of winds accompanying Katrina's western quadrant, which is traditionally the weaker portion of a tropical system. Those winds, on average, were blowing at around 15 to 25 mph with higher gusts.

For complete story, see Tuesday's Ledger & Times

KingPriest2
09-22-2005, 12:18 PM
:Has anyone seen my vagina? I know I have one but I can't seem to find it.:

htismaqe
09-22-2005, 12:24 PM
Because even if Rita hits as a Category 5, winds cannot be sustained that far north. KC is about 200 north of Nashville.

You might want to check this out...

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/145647.shtml?tswind120

Donger
09-22-2005, 12:26 PM
You might want to check this out...

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/145647.shtml?tswind120

Yep, no where near KC.

htismaqe
09-22-2005, 12:29 PM
Yep, no where near KC.

What?

That green ring that thoroughly envelops the KC area means there's a 10% chance of tropical storm-force winds at least 39mph.

Donger
09-22-2005, 12:31 PM
What?

That green ring that thoroughly envelops the KC area means there's a 10% chance of tropical storm-force winds at least 39mph.

Heh. I misread the graphic. I thought that was wind speed.

Actually, it's more like a 6% chance. In meterological terms, that equals no chance.

KingPriest2
09-22-2005, 12:35 PM
Now a cat 4. Going thru a eyewall change

ct
09-22-2005, 12:47 PM
How crazy is this? Mother and Father inlaw have been renting an apartment approx 3blocks away from the astrodome in Houston due to chemo sessions at MD. Anderson. They were told last Sunday to get a plan together and pick up survival items on Monday so that they would be some what prepared to leave in a hurry. Last night Mother inlaw called and was very upset due to the Target store was completely out of everything. Obviously she didn't listen earlier in the week about an evacuation plan or items needed to survive. Now my brother inlaw which lives in K.C. is headed to Houston to ride this monster out with them or hopfully relocate them to San Antonio for a short stay. Of course the brave beer that I was drinking last night helped me to decide that he shouldn't have to bare all this on his own and that I could fly down today to help them get through this.He declined and said no just one of us needs to be stranded and away from our family for who knows how long. Well any ways wife and I went shoppng this morning and have shipped water, can foods, and what ever else we could think of. It should arrive there tomorrow morning as promised. Man what a mess! Any prayers are appreciated.

Good luck to ya and the family. And the same to all others affected I may have missed, as I haven't read thru this whole thread.

Donger
09-22-2005, 12:47 PM
This graphic shows all of the refineries. The yellow triangles are refineries with over 75,000 bpd. Blue circles are refineries with less than 75,000 bpd.

Miles
09-22-2005, 12:57 PM
I have been hearing that the traffic heading north out of Houston is insane. 18-20 hours to Dallas, minimum. Some cars are also running out of gas or overheating.

Donger
09-22-2005, 02:59 PM
At 4 PM CDT...2100z...a Tropical Storm Warning has been issued for
north of the mouth of the Mississippi River to the mouth of the
Pearl River including metropolitan New Orleans and Lake
Pontchartrain. A Tropical Storm Warning is now in effect for the
southeastern coast of Louisiana east of Morgan City to the mouth of
the mouth of the Pearl River including metropolitan New Orleans and
Lake Pontchartrain....

Hammock Parties
09-22-2005, 03:21 PM
It's moving away from me.

Donger
09-22-2005, 03:23 PM
It's moving away from me.

You even repulse hurricanes.

Impressive.