Stats: Oakland/New England and KC/Oakland

[keg in kc]

Just some raw number to stare at until your head hurts. I'll do the same for the Jets/Kansas City and Miami/Jets games later in the week.


Oakland rushing vs. New England

Jordan: 18 carries for 70 yards (3.9)
Crockett: 3 carries for 20 yards (6.7)
Collins: 1 carry for 2 yards (2.0)

Totals: 22 carries for 92 yards (4.2)


Oakland rushing vs. Kansas City

Jordan: 15 carries for 59 yards (3.9) and 1 TD
Collins: 3 carries for 10 yards (3.3)
Crockett: 1 carry for 2 yards (2)

Totals: 19 carries for 71 yards (3.7) and 1 TD
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Oakland passing vs. New England

Collins: 18-40 (45%) for 265 yards (6.63), 3 TD and 1 INT. 81.8 rating. 1 sack.

Moss: 5 receptions for 130 yards (26.0) and 1 TD
Jordan: 5 receptions for 40 yards (8.0)
Porter: 3 receptions for 48 yards (16.0)
C. Anderson: 3 receptions for 18 yards (6.0) and 2 TD
Whitted: 2 receptions for 29 yards (14.5)


Oakland passing vs. Kansas City

Collins 21-35 (60%) for 263 yards (7.51) and 1 TD. 92.9 rating. 1 sack.

Jordan: 6 receptions for 32 yards (5.3)
Moss: 5 receptions for 127 yards (25.4) and 1 TD
Porter: 5 receptions for 68 yards (13.6)
Crockett: 3 receptions for 24 yards (8.0)
Curry: 2 receptions for 12 yards (6.0)

[keg in kc]

New England rushing vs. Oakland

Dillon: 23 carries for 63 yards (2.7) and 2 TD
Faulk: 5 carries for 11 yards (2.2)
Brady: 3 carries for -1 yard (-0.3)

Totals: 31 carries for 73 yards (2.4) and 2 TD


Kansas City rushing vs. Oakland

Holmes: 19 carries for 75 yards (3.9) and 1 TD
Johnson: 9 carries for 41 yards (4.6) and 1 TD
Kennison: 1 carry for 8 yards (8.0)
Wilson: 1 carry for 6 yards (6.0)
Green: 4 carries for 2 yards (0.5)
Hall: 2 carries for -7 yards (-3.5)

Totals: 36 carries for 125 yards (3.5) and 2 TD
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New England passing vs. Oakland

Brady 24-38 (63.2%) for 306 yards (8.05) and 2 TD. 0 sacks. 105.8 rating.

Branch: 7 receptions for 99 yards (14.1) and 1 TD
Brown: 6 receptions for 51 yards (8.5)
Faulk: 3 receptions for 18 yards (6.0)
Watson: 2 receptions for 55 yards (27.5)
Givens: 2 receptions for 31 yards (15.5)
Graham: 1 reception for 17 yards
Dwight: 1 reception for 5 yards and 1 TD


Kansas City passing vs. Oakland

Green: 18-28 (64.3%) for 237 yards (8.46). 1 sack. 90.9 rating.

Gonzalez: 5 receptions for 44 yards (8.8)
Kennison: 4 receptions for 52 yards (13.0)
Parker: 3 receptions for 86 yards (28.7)
Holmes: 3 receptions for 15 yards (5.0)
Horn: 2 receptions for 25 yards (12.5)
Hall: 1 reception for 15 yards (15.0)

[RedDread]

The only shortcoming on D seems to be that Collins comp % and YPC are higher, we're identical or better in every other D category.


EAT SH** DONX FANS!!! :cuss:

[Rain Man]

QB ratings shouldn't consider TD passes. Collins' performance against New England was putrefying, and it counts as an 80+ game?

[Saulbadguy]

IMO, New England really isn't the measuring stick for how good a team should be.

[keg in kc]

I'm just posting raw numbers, not making any kind of statement. I'm interested in how we and other teams fare statistically against common opponents. I'll get to the Jets/KC and Miami/Jets games later, as I said.

And New England is really the only applicable measuring stick at this point, being the only other team the Raiders have played. Adding Philadelphia to the mix next week should be interesting.

[Hammock Parties]

Haven't you heard, keg? Our defense still sucks because we gave up two touchdowns that were called back on penalties.

[Calcountry]

Haven't you heard, keg? Our defense still sucks because we gave up two touchdowns that were called back on penalties.Last year, our D gave up penalties on third and long, that kept drives going until they scored.

[Ugly Duck]

Collins' performance against New England was putrefying, and it counts as an 80+ game?
NFL.com had Collins rated at 94+ in the New England game. After the 92+ he got against KC, his average is 93.8

Green is at 79.0

http://www.nfl.com/stats/playersort/NFL/QB-PASSING/2005/regular

[philfree]

I'm not worried about the stats from the Raiders game. They had 10 days to prepare to play us on their field at their home opener at night. If they couldn't get it done under those circumstances then I don't think their season will get any better.

PhilFree:arrow:

[keg in kc]

NFL.com had Collins rated at 94+ in the New England game.No they didn't. You can check the official gamebook (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/gamebook/NFL_20050908_OAK@NE) if you don't want to take my word for it. And if you use a calculator (you can google "NFL QB rating calculator" and find several) and imput his stats, you'll find that 81.8 is the correct number.

As I recall, both yards/attempt and completion percentage carry equal weight along with TD% (TD/attempt) and INT% when they calulate a QB rating, which is why his was 81.8 for the NE game, despite his 3 TD/1 INT ratio; throwing 40 attempts and only completing 18 killed his rating.

[Ugly Duck]

You can check the official gamebook (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/gamebook/NFL_20050908_OAK@NE) if you don't want to take my word for it.

Here's the other official stats from the same site NFL.com, where they also have him listed as having zero INT's. I think the NFL changed what was ruled an INT by the refs into a fumble for the official record book. Go figure:

Kerry Collins... OAK Games:... 2 Attempts:... 74 Att/G:... 37.0

Comp:...39 Pct:...52.7 Yards:...528 Yds/G...264 Long:...73

TD's:...4 INTs:...0 Sacks:...3 Sack Yards:...26 Rating...93.8

[Bob Dole]

It didn't make any difference in the outcome, but did anyone else think Sapp intercepted that 4th down pass near the end of the game?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

How do you feel about the game against Denver on MNF Kyle? Or is it too early for you?

[morphius]

It didn't make any difference in the outcome, but did anyone else think Sapp intercepted that 4th down pass near the end of the game?
It was kind of hard to tell since he rolled over his own player before coming down and really only seemed to maybe get a butt cheek in bounds. Though another replay would have been nice.

[Hammock Parties]

NFL.com had Collins rated at 94+ in the New England game. After the 92+ he got against KC, his average is 93.8

Green is at 79.0

http://www.nfl.com/stats/playersort/NFL/QB-PASSING/2005/regular

And Green is 2-0. And will have a higher QB rating at the end of the season, when it counts.

Eat the corn nuggets out of my shit!