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Logical
11-15-2005, 09:59 PM
Finally, the emperor Aurelian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurelian) introduced an official cult of Sol Invictus in AD 270 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/270), making the sun-god the premier divinity of the empire, and wearing his rayed crown himself (image, right). While not officially identified with Mithras, Aurelian's Sol borrowed many features from Mithraism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism), including the iconographical representation of the god as a beardless youth. Aurelian dedicated the Sol Invictus Temple on Dec 25, 274 in a festival called dies natalis Solis Invicti or birthday of the invincible Sun.Finally, the emperor Aurelian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurelian) introduced an official cult of Sol Invictus in AD 270 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/270), making the sun-god the premier divinity of the empire, and wearing his rayed crown himself (image, right). While not officially identified with Mithras, Aurelian's Sol borrowed many features from Mithraism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism), including the iconographical representation of the god as a beardless youth. Aurelian dedicated the Sol Invictus Temple on Dec 25, 274 in a festival called dies natalis Solis Invicti or birthday of the invincible Sun.


Have you started buying your presents.

Mr. Kotter
11-15-2005, 10:05 PM
This is what you've been reduced to Jim?

Kissing Duhnise's ass over in DC, and trolling in the Lounge in a pathetic attempt to offend Christians and trying to make them squirm because of ties to pagan holidays.

Life must be really boring for you these days.... :shake:

Jenson71
11-15-2005, 10:08 PM
I was disappointed to find out the local mall was not bringing jolly ol' Sol Invictus back this year.

Logical
11-15-2005, 10:09 PM
This is what you've been reduced to Jim?

Kissing Duhnise's ass in DC, and trolling in the Lounge in a pathetic attempt to offend Christians and trying to make them squirm because of ties to pagan holidays.

Life must be really boring for you these days.... :shake:You take things far too seriously. I was just doing a Wikpedia search on December 25th and came across this interesting information and thought I would share it.

Did you know about this ancient festival, doesn't the history teacher in you find it interesting?

If not, I find it sad that you lack curiousity.

Skip Towne
11-15-2005, 10:10 PM
I'll bet you wouldn't say that to my face you @#$%)(*&^!!!!!!!

Mr. Kotter
11-15-2005, 10:10 PM
You take things far too seriously. I was just doing a Wikpedia search on December 25th and came across this interesting information and thought I would share it.

Did you know about this ancient festival, doesn't the history teacher in you find it interesting?

If not, I find it sad that you lack curiousity.

Midwesterners and most people I knew learned this story in third or fourth grade.... :rolleyes:

Logical
11-15-2005, 10:11 PM
I'll bet you wouldn't say that to my face you @#$%)(*&^!!!!!!!ROFL

listopencil
11-15-2005, 10:11 PM
I got a really cool Solis Invictus sweater last year. I'm hoping for matching gloves. Hint, hint.

Logical
11-15-2005, 10:12 PM
Midwesterners and most people I knew learned this story in third or fourth grade.... :rolleyes:If I learned it I long ago forgot it. Get over your ridiculous self absorbed obsession with religion and just enjoy life a little Rob.

RealSNR
11-15-2005, 10:13 PM
Does this mean extra vacation time?

Jenson71
11-15-2005, 10:14 PM
If I learned it I long ago forgot it. Get over your ridiculous self absorbed obsession with religion and just enjoy life a little Rob.

And always ask yourself: What Would Sol Invictus Do?

Mr. Kotter
11-15-2005, 10:15 PM
If I learned it I long ago forgot it. Get over your ridiculous self absorbed obsession with religion and just enjoy life a little Rob.

I enjoy life plenty. Your attempts to provoke religious folks is just wearing thin....thanks for your concern though.

RealSNR
11-15-2005, 10:16 PM
If the radio starts playing Sol Invictus music before Thanksgiving, I'm going to go apeshit

Logical
11-15-2005, 10:17 PM
And always ask yourself: What Would Sol Invictus Do?http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1f/Follis-Constantine-lyons_RIC_VI_309.jpg/200px-Follis-Constantine-lyons_RIC_VI_309.jpg

Watch you with a benign smirk?

listopencil
11-15-2005, 10:18 PM
If the radio starts playing Sol Invictus music before Thanksgiving, I'm going to go apeshit


Oh c'mon. Get into the holiday spirit. Partake of the grog. Or Sol will deliver horrible burns upon your mortal flesh.

Logical
11-15-2005, 10:18 PM
I enjoy life plenty. Your attempts to provoke religious folks is just wearing thin....thanks for your concern though.Well thank goodness everyone else is just enjoying the thread for its amusement. You should probably take a couple of month break from the BB Rob, I don't think you are having fun any more.

Mr. Kotter
11-15-2005, 10:27 PM
Well thank goodness everyone else is just enjoying the thread for its amusement. You should probably take a couple of month break from the BB Rob, I don't think you are having fun any more.

Actually, I haven't felt as good in a long time. Just callin' it like I see it...but, once again, thanks for your concern. Say what you will; some of us know you better. Whatever floats your boat though. If you really annoyed me that much, I'd use iggy.....but the prurient appeal of watching the car wreck is alluring.

Logical
11-15-2005, 10:30 PM
Oh c'mon. Get into the holiday spirit. Partake of the grog. Or Sol will deliver horrible burns upon your mortal flesh.Is grog beer? I think I will google that, even though it is probably some pagan beverage.

RealSNR
11-15-2005, 10:32 PM
Is grog beer? I think I will google that, even though it is probably some pagan beverage.It's a traditional Dies Natalis Solis Invicti custom, you heathen!

Logical
11-15-2005, 10:33 PM
Grog is an alcoholic beverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_beverage) made with water and rum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rum). It was introduced into the Royal Navy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Navy) by British Vice Admiral (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_Admiral) Edward Vernon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Vernon) on 21 August (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_21) 1740 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1740). Modern versions of the drink sometimes include lemon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon) juice, lime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lime_%28fruit%29) juice, cinnamon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamon) or sugar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar) to improve the taste. Rum with water, sugar and nutmeg was known as Bumboo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumboo) and was more popular with pirates and merchantmen.

Nope no pagan origin, drat someone will be dissappointed.

Man discovered long ago that he could not drink the sea water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_water) and required significant quantities of fresh water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresh_water) on extended voyages. Unable to desalinate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination) the sea water, water was taken on board in casks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casks) but quickly developed algae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae) and became slimy. Stagnant water was sweetened with beer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer) or wine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine) to make it palatable which involved more casks and subject to spoilage. As longer voyages became more common, the task of stowage became more and more difficult and the sailors' then daily ration of a gallon of beer began to add up.
Following Britain's conquest of Jamaica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaica) in 1655, a half pint or "gill" of rum gradually replaced beer and brandy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandy) as the drink of choice. Given to the sailor straight, this caused additional problems, as some sailors would save up the rum rations for several days, then drink them all at once. Due to the subsequent illness and disciplinary problems, the rum was mixed with water. This both diluted its effects (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunkenness), and would make it spoil faster. A half pint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pint) of rum mixed with one quart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quart) of water, and issued in two servings before noon and after the end of the working day became part of the official regulations of the Royal Navy in 1756 and spanned for over two centuries after.
When it was determined that daily doses of vitamin C (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C) prevented the disease scurvy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scurvy), citrus juice (usually lime or lemon juice) was added to the recipe.

Adept Havelock
11-15-2005, 10:35 PM
Sol Invictus Bless Us, Every One! :grouphug:

and pass the (hic) grog.....
:BLVD:

Adept Havelock
11-15-2005, 10:42 PM
Finally, the emperor Aurelian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurelian) introduced an official cult of Sol Invictus in AD 270 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/270), making the sun-god the premier divinity of the empire, and wearing his rayed crown himself (image, right). While not officially identified with Mithras, Aurelian's Sol borrowed many features from Mithraism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism), including the iconographical representation of the god as a beardless youth. Aurelian dedicated the Sol Invictus Temple on Dec 25, 274 in a festival called dies natalis Solis Invicti or birthday of the invincible Sun.Finally, the emperor Aurelian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurelian) introduced an official cult of Sol Invictus in AD 270 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/270), making the sun-god the premier divinity of the empire, and wearing his rayed crown himself (image, right). While not officially identified with Mithras, Aurelian's Sol borrowed many features from Mithraism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism), including the iconographical representation of the god as a beardless youth. Aurelian dedicated the Sol Invictus Temple on Dec 25, 274 in a festival called dies natalis Solis Invicti or birthday of the invincible Sun.


Have you started buying your presents.


Vlad-

It's an interesting co-opting. Have you looked into the Zoroastrian elements that were co-opted? Interesting stuff.

Logical
11-15-2005, 10:44 PM
Vlad-

It's an interesting co-opting. Have you looked into the Zoroastrian elements that were co-opted? Interesting stuff.Looks interesting thanks.

listopencil
11-15-2005, 11:29 PM
Is grog beer? I think I will google that, even though it is probably some pagan beverage.


Grog

1 shot rum
1 teaspoon sugar (preferably superfine)
Squeeze of lime juice
Cinnamon stick
Boiling water Stir all ingredients, adding enough boiling water to fill mug or glass.


This is not a "standard" recipe. In fact, no standard recipe exists save the fact that rum and water are included.

Logical
11-17-2005, 10:10 PM
Grog

1 shot rum
1 teaspoon sugar (preferably superfine)
Squeeze of lime juice
Cinnamon stick
Boiling water Stir all ingredients, adding enough boiling water to fill mug or glass.


This is not a "standard" recipe. In fact, no standard recipe exists save the fact that rum and water are included. That sounds pretty tasty