14 Year Olds Dream [Archive]

Alton deFlat

11-22-2005, 01:12 PM

That was one lucky 14 year old.

TAMPA, Fla. — A Florida reading teacher charged with having sex with a minor pleaded guilty on Tuesday to two counts of lewd and lascivious behavior as part of a plea deal that does not include any jail time.

"I accept full responsibility for my actions," Greco Middle School teacher Debra Lafave, 25, said during Tuesday's trial in Tampa.

The deal provides that Lafave will not serve one day in jail in connection with multiple sex acts with a 14-year-old student unless she violates the terms of the plea agreement, which includes three years of house arrest and seven years' probation.

"To place an attractive young woman in that kind of hell hole is like putting a piece of raw meat in with the lions," Lafave's attorney, John Fitzgibbons, said in July of the possibility of jail time. "I'm not sure she would survive."

The boy told investigators the two had sex in a classroom at the Greco school in Temple Terrace near Tampa, in her Riverview town house and once in a vehicle while his 15-year-old cousin drove them around Marion County.

He also said to investigators that Lafave had told him her marriage was in trouble and that she was aroused by the fact that having sex with him was not allowed. He said he and Lafave, a newlywed at the time, got to know each other on their way back from a class trip to SeaWorld Orlando in May 2004.

Hillsborough Circuit Judge Wayne Timmerman said Lafave will forever lose her teaching certificate, must register with the state as a sexual predator, may not have any contact with children including the victim and will not be allowed to profit from the sale of her story or personal appearances.

Prosecutor Michael Sinacore said the young victim's family wanted to get the case over with because of the intense public and media scrutiny.

"We're happy that the victim's family can put this case behind them," he said. "The whole process has been very difficult, and we hope they can now resume their lives."

After Tuesday's hearing, Fitzgibbons said the plea was "a fair resolution of this case." Asked how she felt afterward, Lafave said "tired."

On Friday state Circuit Judge Wayne Timmerman ordered attorneys not to talk publicly about the pending prosecution of Lafave amid worries of seating an untainted jury. The gag order was a major setback for the defense, which appears to have led to today's resolution.

"I don't see what the harm is in telling these guys from this point on in order to get a fair and impartial jury, you guys keep your mouths shut," the judge said last week.

Lafave had faced four felony counts of lewd and lascivious battery and one count of lewd and lascivious exhibition, each of which carry a maximum 15-year prison term.

Fitzgibbons last week had said Lafave would plead insanity at trial, claiming she was under such emotional stress that she didn't know right from wrong.

Fitzgibbons said in July that plea negotiations had broken off because prosecutors insisted on prison time, which he said would be too dangerous for someone as attractive as Lafave. He said then that she planned to plead insanity at trial, claiming emotional stress kept her from knowing right from wrong.

NewChief

11-22-2005, 01:15 PM

There's a case like this going on in Arkansas now, too. It seems like this is becoming more and more common. Back in the day, it seemed like it was mainly male teachers guilty. Now I see way more female teachers. What's up with that? Media-colored perception or actual trend, I wonder?

Alton deFlat

11-22-2005, 01:15 PM

Here's her photo.

stevieray

11-22-2005, 01:16 PM

chagrin

11-22-2005, 01:16 PM

What, you were still a virgin when you were 14?

Hammock Parties

11-22-2005, 01:17 PM

Lucky kids. I wanted to pork like 5 of my high school teachers. One of them was a Lynda Carter clone.

Alton deFlat

11-22-2005, 01:19 PM

What, you were still a virgin when you were 14?

Well, let me think...

Yep

jiveturkey

11-22-2005, 01:20 PM

women becoming men.You apparently didn't look at the picture.

bkkcoh

11-22-2005, 01:26 PM

Yeah, but if it was a guy doing the same thing to a 14 y/o girl, he wouldn't be getting the same type of punishment.

Having 2 boys and a girl, I know I would be a little more understanding if this happened to the boy, but if it happened to the girl, I would want him locked up and the key thrown away.

I have always found it amazing the double standard on something like this. It is amazing how they have equal rights now, what about equal wrongs? :banghead:

I would have loved to have the first time be with a woman who looked like that, but it is still very wrong....

shouldn't they be fumblin' around in the back seat with someone their own age? :hmmm:

MichaelH

11-22-2005, 01:30 PM

nice cross :rolleyes:

Braincase

11-22-2005, 01:40 PM

I'd hit it.. and I'd last longer than a 14 year old...

stevieray

11-22-2005, 01:47 PM

You apparently didn't look at the picture.

beuaty is in the eye of the child molester.

Braincase

11-22-2005, 01:50 PM

beuaty is in the eye of the child molester.

StevieRay! Now you know just as well as I do that if you were the 14 year old in question, you wouldn't have turned that down. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if DenverChief and KCN jumped on board just to prove to themselves one thing or the other...

jidar

11-22-2005, 01:51 PM

http://www.fivebuckstofriday.com/museum/hit/lawyer.jpg

stevieray

11-22-2005, 01:51 PM

StevieRay! Now you know just as well as I do that if you were the 14 year old in question, you wouldn't have turned that down. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if DenverChief and KCN jumped on board just to prove to themselves one thing or the other...

The boy isn't the perp.

Saulbadguy

11-22-2005, 01:54 PM

The boy isn't the perp.
Was he a victim, or was he lucky?

stevieray

11-22-2005, 01:55 PM

Was he a victim, or was he lucky?

would you ask the same question if he was a she?

besides, I don't think they charge you for making someone lucky.

Braincase

11-22-2005, 01:57 PM

The boy isn't the perp.

True... but if I were 14, I'd be telling the jury that this is a victimless crime...

Appropriate Lyrics:

Oh, wow, man, I said
Wait a second, man
What do you think the teacher's gonna look like this year?
F*** man!

Uh!
Oh yeah!

T-T-teacher stop that screamin'
Teacher don't you see?
Don't wanna be no uptown fool
Maybe I should go to hell
But I am doing well
Teacher needs to see me after school

I think of all the education that I've missed
But then my homework was never quite like this!

Ow! Got it bad,
Got it bad,
Got it bad,
I'm hot for teacher!
I've got it bad, so bad
I'm hot for teacher!

Hey, I heard you missed us
We're back! (Hey!)
I brought my pencil
Give me something to write on, man!
Whoa

Uh!

Ooo-oo-ooo

I heard about your lessons
but lessons are so cold
I didn't know about this school
Little girl from Cherry Lawn
How can you be so bold?
How did you know that golden rule?

I think of all the education that I've missed
But then my homework was never quite like this!

Whoa! Got it bad,
Got it bad,
Got it bad,
I'm hot for teacher!
I've got it bad, so bad
I'm hot for teacher!

Whoa!
(Guitar Solo)

Oh man, I think the clock is slow
(What are you doin' this weekend?) I don't feel tardy
Class dismissed!
Ooh-yeah!

I've got it bad,
Got it bad,
Got it bad,
I'm hot for teacher!

I've got it bad,
Got it bad,
Got it bad,
I'm hot for teacher!

Whoa!
Oh! Ooh, yes I'm hot
Wow!

Whoa!
Oh! Ooh, yes I'm hot
Wow!

Oh my God!
Woo!

Hammock Parties

11-22-2005, 01:58 PM

I guess maybe this thing is viewed differently because if the roles were reversed, the girl would be viewed as a victim, or having been coerced into doing something she maybe didn't want to do.

While with a boy...you know he's going to be gung ho all the way. Right?

Lzen

11-22-2005, 02:01 PM

I gotta admit that when I was 14, I would've jumped all over that. However, being a parent of a 12 year old boy I gotta say that I would not be happy if this woman tried this with my son. There's gotta be something very, very wrong with a 25 year old woman who wants to have sex with a 14 year old.

stumppy

11-22-2005, 02:07 PM

Saulbadguy

11-22-2005, 02:10 PM

would you ask the same question if he was a she?

Nope. Of course not. Perfect equality does not exist.

ferrarispider95

11-22-2005, 02:12 PM

I hit it, then blackmail her to give me beer, good grades, and more sex.

Mecca

11-22-2005, 02:16 PM

Lzen

11-22-2005, 02:20 PM

So you wouldn't look at her and go "Whoa, good job son" then high five him?

Uh, no. Would I be thinking it subconciously? Maybe a little.

mike_b_284

11-22-2005, 02:28 PM

Here's her photo.

HELL YES, I would have flunked, and flunked and flunked ......
I had a hot teacher when I was a senior, I wish she would have pulled that on me.

AustinChief

11-22-2005, 02:45 PM

Mecca

11-22-2005, 02:52 PM

This wouldn't be illegal in Spain, Austria, CANADA, Chili, China, Columbia, Croatia, Estonia, Guyana, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, S. Korea, Mexico, Peru, and others...

But just ask Gary Glitter... don't try this crap in Vietnam!

--Kyle

I wonder if there are hot female teachers in Canada. I know there are some excellent strip clubs there, off to Canada I go!

bkkcoh

11-22-2005, 02:58 PM

Nope. Of course not. Perfect equality does not exist.

And definitely not in the judicial system, whether it pertains to race or sex.... :banghead:

Inspector

11-22-2005, 03:06 PM

Boys and girls are different.

A girl would probably be scarred - or so I'm told.

The boy would have wonderful fond memories to think back on each morning in the shower.

I don't think it's as negetive to a young man as it is to a young lady.

Seek

11-22-2005, 03:50 PM

something about this story attracts me to her. You guys need to read her actual police report filled against her.

Seek

11-22-2005, 03:56 PM

They didn't even use a condom. He creamed in her three times. She swallowed one and took the other two vaginally.

She did him while his 15 year old cousin was driving her car around town.

He even described her body naked to a T. All shaved except one small strip. Three tattos on her lower back.

Rain Man

11-22-2005, 03:57 PM

Here's her photo.

Maybe this is all just a misunderstanding. When I was 14, I would have had an orgasm just looking at her.

Amnorix

11-22-2005, 03:59 PM

Call me prejudiced or whatever you want, but I still think that this POTENTIALLY leaves a young girl scarred for life (if it's a male teacher and the roles are reversed), but that the 14 year old boy is getting high 5's from his buddies and is going to fondly remember her, at least until he lines up his next POA.

And, let's definitely not forget, kids are growing up MUCH faster these days. It's generally known that from middle school on, BJs are available at a set price from a number of capitalistic girls who want to buyt he next handbag or whatever. :shake: I don't approve of that, btw, but welcome to the world.

Seek

11-22-2005, 04:01 PM

Maybe this is all just a misunderstanding. When I was 14, I would have had an orgasm just looking at her.

You mean you still don't.

Rain Man

11-22-2005, 04:06 PM

You mean you still don't.

Good point. It just took me five minutes longer.

ChiefFripp

11-22-2005, 04:08 PM

[QUOTE=Alton deFlat]That was one lucky 14 year old.

"To place an attractive young woman in that kind of hell hole is like putting a piece of raw meat in with the lions," Lafave's attorney, John Fitzgibbons, said in July of the possibility of jail time. "I'm not sure she would survive."

QUOTE]

So only ugly people go to jaill these days?

Mecca

11-22-2005, 04:16 PM

Rain Man

11-22-2005, 04:24 PM

That was one lucky 14 year old.

"To place an attractive young woman in that kind of hell hole is like putting a piece of raw meat in with the lions," Lafave's attorney, John Fitzgibbons, said in July of the possibility of jail time. "I'm not sure she would survive."

So only ugly people go to jail these days?

Perhaps the prosecution should seek testimony from beautiful aggressive prison inmates testifying that they would take care of her.

Lzen

11-22-2005, 04:28 PM

Maybe this is all just a misunderstanding. When I was 14, I would have had an orgasm just looking at her.

ROFL

RedNFeisty

11-22-2005, 05:31 PM

I would beat the hell out of the bitch and then make her give me the same treatment.

If the roles were reversed, I would just slit the ****ers throat.

Garcia Bronco

11-22-2005, 05:38 PM

"To place an attractive young woman in that kind of hell hole is like putting a piece of raw meat in with the lions," Lafave's attorney, John Fitzgibbons, said in July of the possibility of jail time. "I'm not sure she would survive."

What does this say about our prison system...I'd go down in a blaze before I went to a prison.

Tribal Warfare

11-22-2005, 05:57 PM

That kid is going to be god in such mythical implications, he'll be giving Ice-Tea tips about women instead of "self dating":whackit: to Victoria Secret catalogs. David Lee Roth would be proud

:hail::wayne:

Skyy God

11-22-2005, 06:50 PM

How'd you like to be this guy?

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5cf03b3127cce953f8f87ab4500000016109AZNmblo3bY

Garcia Bronco

11-22-2005, 06:57 PM

How'd you like to be this guy?

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5cf03b3127cce953f8f87ab4500000016109AZNmblo3bY

IS that her husband?

Mecca

11-22-2005, 07:08 PM

It "was" her husband. He filed for divorce after the story came out. Obviously he must not be able to do much if he can be replaced by a 14 year old.......

Hammock Parties

11-22-2005, 07:14 PM

Hope that guy didn't get ED after that.

Skyy God

11-23-2005, 12:34 AM

It "was" her husband. He filed for divorce after the story came out. Obviously he must not be able to do much if he can be replaced by a 14 year old.......

At least he had the good sense to divorce her, unlike that castrato fiancee of the runaway bride.

listopencil

11-23-2005, 12:56 AM

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1316378.jpg

htismaqe

11-23-2005, 12:17 PM

So only ugly people go to jaill these days?

It sure looks like it.

There's a case like this (in Georgia?) and the woman is 35 and ugly as sin. She's gonna get 15 years.

This sets a very bad example.

Brock

11-23-2005, 12:26 PM

It "was" her husband. He filed for divorce after the story came out. Obviously he must not be able to do much if he can be replaced by a 14 year old.......

He made the mistake of marrying a whore. He certainly isnt the first or the last guy to do that.

StcChief

11-23-2005, 12:27 PM

She's Bi-Polar it was on today show this AM with her lawyer. Was going to work insanity defense was off her meds....

htismaqe

11-23-2005, 12:29 PM

She's Bi-Polar it was on today show this AM with her lawyer. Was going to work insanity defense was off her meds....

It will work. Mark it down.

She's not only hot, but she's "sick". It wasn't her fault.

listopencil

11-23-2005, 06:59 PM

I just read a blog saying that she's bisexual.

"Timmy, Miss Smith and I would like you to stay after school for a...special project. It's an extra credit assignment."

"Of course, Mrs. LaFave."

Rain Man

11-23-2005, 07:15 PM

So she's both bisexual and bipolar? Does that mean that 25 percent of the time she gets depressed during sex with women?

listopencil

11-23-2005, 07:26 PM

So she's both bisexual and bipolar? Does that mean that 25 percent of the time she gets depressed during sex with women?

I prefer to think of that one quarter of the time that she really, really enjoys hot lesbian sex.

Mecca

11-23-2005, 07:28 PM

Once again, I wish I was this kid.......

Rain Man

11-23-2005, 07:34 PM

I prefer to think of that one quarter of the time that she really, really enjoys hot lesbian sex.

You're a "glass half full" kind of guy. I like that.

teedubya

11-23-2005, 08:39 PM

i bet she goes into porn now.

4th and Long

11-23-2005, 08:41 PM

i bet she goes into porn now.
Not likely to happen any time soon. She's under supervised, strict, house arrest for the next three years.

bringbackmarty

11-23-2005, 08:45 PM

True... but if I were 14, I'd be telling the jury that this is a victimless crime...

Appropriate Lyrics:

Oh, wow, man, I said
Wait a second, man
What do you think the teacher's gonna look like this year?
F*** man!

Uh!
Oh yeah!

T-T-teacher stop that screamin'
Teacher don't you see?
Don't wanna be no uptown fool
Maybe I should go to hell
But I am doing well
Teacher needs to see me after school

I think of all the education that I've missed
But then my homework was never quite like this!

Ow! Got it bad,
Got it bad,
Got it bad,
I'm hot for teacher!
I've got it bad, so bad
I'm hot for teacher!

Hey, I heard you missed us
We're back! (Hey!)
I brought my pencil
Give me something to write on, man!
Whoa

Uh!

Ooo-oo-ooo

I heard about your lessons
but lessons are so cold
I didn't know about this school
Little girl from Cherry Lawn
How can you be so bold?
How did you know that golden rule?

I think of all the education that I've missed
But then my homework was never quite like this!

Whoa! Got it bad,
Got it bad,
Got it bad,
I'm hot for teacher!
I've got it bad, so bad
I'm hot for teacher!

Whoa!
(Guitar Solo)

Oh man, I think the clock is slow
(What are you doin' this weekend?) I don't feel tardy
Class dismissed!
Ooh-yeah!

I've got it bad,
Got it bad,
Got it bad,
I'm hot for teacher!

I've got it bad,
Got it bad,
Got it bad,
I'm hot for teacher!

Whoa!
Oh! Ooh, yes I'm hot
Wow!

Whoa!
Oh! Ooh, yes I'm hot
Wow!

Oh my God!
Woo!

oh hell yeah. I love halen, still very current twenty oh my god is it really twenty years, yes it is. And I am still hot for teacher. This time it's my kids teacher.

Hammock Parties

11-23-2005, 08:48 PM

Not likely to happen any time soon. She's under supervised, strict, house arrest for the next three years.

They can't do it in her house?

LIVE FROM "HOT FOR TEACHER PRISON"

4th and Long

11-23-2005, 08:50 PM

They can't do it in her house?

LIVE FROM "HOT FOR TEACHER PRISON"
They article I read today said that all of her activities must be approved by the individual(s) supervising her activities in and out of her home so, I would venture a guess and say, ... NO!